NY Gun Confiscation – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol ID & Firearms

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Manasquan, NJ –-(Ammoland.com)- Remember all those who denied that firearms confiscation as a result of New York's new gun laws was too “insane” to even consider?

That it was strictly in the realm of paranoid conspiracy theorists and the “it cant happen here crowd”?

Those were and remain some of the standard replies to anyone who even thought about the possibility, let alone gave voice to it, despite the fact that Gov Cuomo and numerous other officials made public comments about such a plan, as I discussed in my article “Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back” .

Elected Officials, the media, various Gun Control Groups and their zealous forced disarmament supporters, even some firearms owners themselves all insisted it was to crazy to even consider.

There's just one huge problem it is happening now in New York State!
It seems those that tried desperately to warn of such an insidious plot had hit the bullseye with their warnings after all. News came from multiple NY State based firearms enthusiast websites late Friday that confiscations of Pistol Owner ID Cards, as well as firearms and accessories has commenced in NY under the provisions of the horribly flawed, draconian and blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act.

Those folks having their weapons and FID cards confiscated  have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to initiate a concentrated denial of service hacker attack against Ammoland Shooting Sports News (see Daily KOS ” Keeping Track Of The RKBA Crowd” http://tiny.cc/ug67uw),  in an effort to keep the information from the public.

From NY http://tiny.cc/nyfirearms

“John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.

Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!

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James Tresmond Esq confirmed in our conversation that the above mentioned case is occurring in Erie County NY, it is his client that has been effected, and as yet unknown sources have seen fit to take it upon themselves to share confidential medical records with NY State Officials without authorization, a massive HIPPA violation.

It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories.

Here is a link to the Attorney of Record on this case, Jim Tresmond, giving a radio interview on the Tom Bauerle Show on WBEN 930AM/107.7 FM:


This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.

Moreover, the confiscation efforts underway in NY State have had another, albeit unintended effect. By undertaking this course of action, those in power have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on something they have suppressed from the Citizens for far to long, leaving them with precious little wiggle room to explain away their actions.

  • Either they are acknowledging that there is in fact some sort of little reported link between the prescribing of psychotropic drugs and violent behavior, thus they are somehow, at least in their own minds “justified” in their actions to preempt someone from violence.
  • Or, this is nothing more then a backdoor confiscation effort and massive abuse of governmental power unleashed on innocent Citizens.

Those are the only two possible explanations.

If anyone still feels some level of doubt regarding the veracity of this story, Attorney Tresmond welcomes anyone to visit his website tresmondlaw.com, Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/james.tresmond.7 ), or send an email to [email protected]

Mr Tresmond asks that those making inquiries be mindful and respectful of the fact that they have been deluged with inquiries in recent days and therefore a personal reply may be delayed or impossible due to the volume.

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  • 237 thoughts on “NY Gun Confiscation – Citizens Told to Turn in Pistol ID & Firearms

    1. If they really want to end violence with guns, just make it illegal for Democrats to own them. Lanza? Democrat. Columbine shooters? Dem parents. Batman shooter? Democrat. Gabby shooter? Democrat. ALL these mass shooters are Democrats or had Dem parents. It really is a mental disease. If Dems want to demand an end to our Constitutional rights – they should start with themselves, leave it at that for a year or two and watch how no more crimes are committed, and leave it there. They hate the Constitution – fine – deprive THEM of it at THEIR demand.

    2. You folks in NY State have two simple, easy to understand options: Learn to Goose Step or REVOLT! FYI – Under FEDERAL LAW it is illegal to go through a person’s medical records due to privacy laws. This is why HIPPA as installed, because it is supposed to prevent just this sort of abuse by employers, which INCLUDES LOCAL, STATE and FEDERAL governments, as they are employers and have a product (the function of government is a product) and so by indiscriminately trawling the medical records of its citizens, it is liable for civil and criminal actions brought about by their actions. That John Doe has grounds to sue for invasion of privacy to name a starting point even for the dumbest lawyer.

    3. This is a good one for the ACLU to take up. This is the Trojan Horse of gun control. They will simply diasgnose everyone as having some sort of phobia, then say NO ONE in the US can own a gun. Especially Reality Check, who is showing irrational thinking. Read his post. Sell out and move to PA, or the Dakotas. Let NY sink in its financial mess and misguided liberal morass.

      1. What makes you think the ACLU will help gun owners. The people need to stand up and tell NY to kiss their ass. They have no right to check medical records. Wake up America and smell the gun powder.

    4. Pass the tin foil and the hand grenades! They should be using people’s online posting history for evidence of mental illness. You really are a bunch of nuts.

      1. “Crouch down and lick the hands that feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.” Scumbag!!!

      2. Hand Grenades are an excellent suggestion, Comrade Check. I’m off to the gun store to get a baker’s dozen, and some 7.62 also. You Prog Socialists will rue the day you made the White Man Riot.

    5. I’m in California. Now Dianne Fenstien is going to try and do the same thing . Get Cities to confiscate guns. Every thing there doing is illegal. you need a court order to go through someones medical records. Even if there in Jail, or have been arrested. Lets see what happens when they start coming after the people who say F U to NYC. This might be the first city in the US to have cival unrest.

      1. No court order is needed. Under Obama care, doctors are required to report these drug prescriptions for gun owners. They are required to ask you if you are a gun owner in your pre exam information documentation. It is not just NY, it is nation wide. Under the 2013 law NYS actively cross references registered gun owners with prescriptions of certain drugs.

        1. I cannot recall ever having been asked by a doctor if I was a gun owner or not. If I was, you can be pretty sure I’m not going to answer truthfully as it is none of his business. Although I have not personally been treated for anything beyond the usual physical maladies and injuries, I can see a wide spectrum between those merely being treated for depression and those who have homicidal or suicidal ideation. That’s a might broad brush they’re swinging.

          1. In CT, when seeking grief councelling for a tragic death in the family, Yale New Haven Hospital requires that you turn in any guns in your household, not just those registered to you. If you refuse, then they won’t admit you or treat you. In CT, you can seek help for a mental or emotional condition, or you can keep your guns, but not both. The result? Armed, untreated mental illness sufferers.

    6. Time to bug out of NY was last week. Get your stuff, pack your tools of freedom up and get out. Let the liberals deal with the rampant criminals who never had any firearms registered and therefor will not be included in the confiscation. When they have had enough then MAYBE the patriots will come in to save the sheeple from the wolves.

    7. HIPAA??? You better re-read who gets your information! THE GOVERNMENT can access it, don’t be fooled, they are the ones that wrote it!

    8. Here we are… PRE CRIME !!!!

      Keep in mind, “mental illness” is being used as a tool to violate the 2nd amendment. And the DHS has classified Christians, Constitutionalists, Veterans, and truthers as “mentally ill”.

      In fact, just distrusting government is classified as “mental illness” dubbed “oppositional defiant disorder” by a bunch of gov paid quack snake oil psychiatrists- who have no basis in medical science whatsoever.

      Criminals don’t obey gun laws, which only disarm citizens from defending themselves from tyranny and criminals. While the DHS stockpiles billions in hallow point, and paper targets of white middle class Americans.

    9. Can’t happen this is all bill they cannot take your guns. To change the constitution and take your guns 38 states have to agree.

    10. Please consider joining us for Patriot’s Day

      Date: Friday April 19
      Time: 7pm
      Location: Fraunces Tavern 54 Pearl Street, New York , NY

      And Toast our Renewed Mission for the Defense of Liberty!

      Join fellow Oath Keepers and Patriots from all across New York City and the Several States as we converge upon Fraunces Tavern for an evening of reflection and rebellion.

    11. Its becoming that time. Do not give in to what they say, you have every right to protect yourself and to arm yourself, If they try and take my firearm they will receive the bullets first, Defend the constitution at all costs! Criminals don’t register guns citizens do! DO NOT LET THEM TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU, YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF THE USA AND YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO FIGHT FOR THE CONSTITUTION! THESE SOB’S NEED TO KNOW WE CAN’T BE DISARMED SO EASILY!!!

    12. so file a class action lawsuit and quit your bitching, seriously if it’s wrong and it’s happening use YOUR power and fucking DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, it’s called a phone and a lawyer

    13. Aint no goosestepping.
      Germany never banned guns, Bolshevik J E W Run Russia did and killed 66 million CHristians.
      The same dual citizen Israelis are running America into the ground.

    14. FBI statistics show Violent Crime decreased 49% since 1992 to levels of 1970. Liberal Democrat Tyrants refuse to tell the truth in their knowingly Ignorant attempt to Lie up Crime statistic with Guns and the So Called Assault weapons useage. Even to go as far as to Hijack the FEMA/State Police School Safety DRILL AT THE INACTIVE Sandy Hook School that was scheduled on 12-14-12 with Crisis Actors, Event Badges and Refreshments and numerous illegally Parked Clustered together Police, Fire & EMS Vehicles not responding to any Emergency. Hijackers of the DRILL EVENT by the Main Stream Media & Murder Movie Hollywood was accomplished by Phony Parent victim ACTORS & UNINVOLVED, UNMURDERED Children related to out of state Real Families. All to create a False Narrative for Gun Confiscation in the Fast & furious Style Gun Distribution to Mexican Drug Lords by the same regulatory Agency to prosecute Gun Crime the DOJ. Gun Crime violence is on the Decline, but not because of the Revolving Door Liberal Fail Justice system which only executed 43/year violent criminals while in China 6000/year will never murder again! Gun Crime Violence was found “not effected whatsoever” by the Liberal FAIL 1990s Feinstin Assault weapons and magazine Ban. Gun Control does nor work; 20,000 laws of Gun Control only effect the Law bidding Citizen who is hindered by ineffective Regulations who infringe upon Personal protection weapons efficency. Gun Control has in the 20th Century Helped Dictators and tyrants Murder 56 million by Democide! So why a 49% Decline in Crime? Because of the Proliferation of Armed Citizens with Concealed Weapons Permits. England now for 15 years has had a gun confiscated society with politicians promises for a safer streets only to result in the contrary with a 5 fold increase in violent crime. The UK has the highest crime of the entire Euro Zone. So as John Kroll book states “MORE GUNS=LESS CRIME

    15. Don’t turn them in. The letter is just so officials don’t have to go door to door on a suicide mission to try to confiscate firearms.

    16. No compliance,no registration. The law of the land is being violated by who swore to uphold it. The founders told us what to do in these circumstances.

    17. I want to know how many will be shot attempting to confiscate the guns of those who refuse to turn in their legally owned guns. There will be a revolt and blood will flow. This is exactally what the democrats want to happen so they can declare martial law and under the guise of a national emergency they will go house to house to collect guns from legal gun owners.

    18. I live in Ct. Where before January 2014 They say I must register my hi cap mags. This is so that the next time a wack job who has been fed mind altering drugs from the time he or she could crawl snaps and kills someone the lawmakers can declare that all hi cap mags and the firearms that go with them can be located and seized. And if you happen to be caught with any unregestered hi cap mags you will be arrested and charged with a class B felony after which you will not be allowed to own ANY firearms, if thats not a prelude to confiscation Ill eat my NRA hat

    19. Why doesn’t anyone charge after the white house and DEMAND their arrest for these rights they are stealing away, as they have been breaking apart our constitution since the obamas took office….????? The entire government is selling us out, if something isn’t being done about this!!! The revolt is about to start…..I feel it….

    20. Reality Check on April 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM said:

      Pass the tin foil and the hand grenades! They should be using people’s online posting history for evidence of mental illness. You really are a bunch of nuts.


      I bet the Jews and the Cambodians and the Russians, among others, were all told the same thing.

      And you are a little behind…they already do that..with posts.

      By the way, which part of the facts make US nuts?

    21. When are people going to realize,you have no rights anymore.When all is said and done,the tyrants too will go the way,like bin laden,Gaddafi,and Hussein.These people are their own worst enemies.Let history repeat it self

    22. I Support Gun Rights Consider the 2nd Amendment Sacred and Not to be Altered in Any way. Believe Guns Should Not Be Controlled. I have Never Owned a Gun and Don’t have any Plans To Get any. However I know What I Think Is Right and What Is Being Done To Control Guns Is Wrong. The Following are Facts and Not Paranoia Which is Why Thy Want People To Believe It is as referred to as Conspiracy Theory. Because of The Truth Of Information Act All The following Investigations have Been Revealed To Be True And Accurate. Starting In or About the !970’s Hearings Where Held. The Director of the C.I.A Was Asked questions pertaining to these Programs He Acted Befuddled and Claimed He was Only Getting Bits and Pieces of this Information On Secret Black Psyops Projects. The C.I.A. projects Paper Clip project Monarch project Mk Ultra Using Microwave Technology and More Etc,,, Hired Dr Mengele a Nazi Mad Scientist Brilliant at Brain Research and a Nazi war Criminal. Eventually 9000 Nazi Scientist Researches Where Brought to America after World War II and Hired To Continue Working On Brain Experiments and Mind Control This Was Approved By President Dwight Eisenhower In a Attempt to Send Foreigners Living Here In The U.S To Other Countries To Destroy Those Countries During The Cold War So as Not Be As Threatening To The U.S.A. and The World Including Targeting Russia , China. To Name a couple. Brain Washing and Dried Cleaning The Brains of unwitting American Citizens Also, Controlling some of them to Be Clean Killers and Creating The Manchurian Candidate. The Governments Black Projects Have Killed People Using Mind Controlling Techniques And Made Killers Of Some Unwitting Victims Doing a Shooting of One Or A Mass Shooting. It Is Hypocrisy and Pure Belligerence Blaming These Shooters in a Effort To Gain More Control and Disarm Law Abiding Citizens. This is all True do the research looked up thousand results and on Youtube also. the Motivation Behind Gun Control is of a More Sinister Reason than is able to be seen on the Surface and Appearances are Deceiving Everything Done In Black Psops Projects is Done For a Purpose It is That Purpose These Programs Where Created For To Achieve the End Results. Wake Up The Coffee is brewing Smells Good Have Some then Check it Out For Yourself. the Bourne Supremacy was based on Real C.I.A Techniques Brain Washing and Dried Clean Reprogrammed.

    23. Yeah, nothing vague or ambiguous about THIS article. It is absolutely amazing what some people are willing to believe…some of you would actually believe the sky was green if Fox News and its affiliate wacko-sites told you so. This is complete hogwash.

      C’mon people. Don’t be sheep. Wake up and smell the gunpowder. You’re being lied to and taken advantage of by people who want you to keep buying guns and ammo…and they are laughing all the way to the bank at YOUR expense.

    24. Alexander Scipio is a crazy man. The Sikh temple shooter was in a far right band. I guess it’s not convenient to the narrative to mention that.

      Crazy people that kill others come from all backgrounds. JLL wasn’t a democrat so much as an insane person with anti-government insanity all over his MySpace page.

      Who was it that CHP officers had a shoot out with the other year? Oh, a right-wing guy who planned to go shoot up a left-wing organization. Right.

      Stop blaming party politics and get over yourself, because you’re not helping anybody. If we spend all of the time in the world saying “WELL HE WAS A ___insert pointless affiliation here___”, then we’ll never get to the bottom of it. The most important thing is that most of these people were mentally ill in some way or another. That is the one label to give these people.

    25. The insanity will be fulfilled if Any Supreme Court finds these a legal and constitutional law. Then it will be up to the people to take back that which only our Creator can give. Our Constitutional rights. NY has long been a cesspool of communist jackasses. Yet they keep voting them back into power. The sickness is not a mental disease but a social one. God save us from our own stupidity. We have done exactly what Ronald Reagan and our founding fathers have warned us not to do. Allow our freedoms to be voted away.

    26. The post above is the only truth I have seen on many of these websites and they are true, research then for your seles and you too will be amazed at how far the powers that be will go to control and enslave you and your for their own bebefits, as has been done in China and Russia, and in many African countries, as wel as Europe, and gun confiscation is the end all result, and there are killers among you now just like the Lanza dipstick who have been programed to seek out those who they most fear, and it might be you who is on the list, and they fo have list people they have them and they also know who owns the guns in every state, because when they do a back ground check the information goes to the AFTE agency and they keep them, surprise, I was a gun dealer and sent the same information to the California Government in Sacramento as per law both Federal and State.

    27. I have one thing to say to you Stupid ass fuking new yorkers. you all act like your so fukin smart, you think you have all the answers. what you have is nothing. your finished, caput, gonzo. you let these stupid assholes push you around like your butta. you have no back bone to stand up for whats right. pussies the whole lot of you.bloomberg is a fag and likes having is dik suked by his new yorkers. you all deserve just what you allow to happen to yourselves. If any of ya had a dick you would not a punk ass couplea mutha fuks to do this to you. Show us in the rest of the country that you have more balls than we think you have. shut these clowns down. but if you can’t do it, please do not move to any other state talking you crap about how you can take care of yourself, or give us a line about how much better it is in n.y.

    28. I am totally with you on all regards about not letting our rights to be violated or to allow the govt to disarm us. Please note that HIPAA has two As not two Ps. It doesn’t seem like a big deal if the abbreviation is typed wrong, but it just gives all of the haters a reason to excuse the truly valid point(s) that you are trying to make. Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act ( HIPAA )

    29. Reality Check on April 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM said:

      Pass the tin foil and the hand grenades! They should be using people’s online posting history for evidence of mental illness. You really are a bunch of nuts

      Hey I don’t need a tin foil hat to figure that may be exactly what they are doing! If they want to target some overworked lady who is stressed out with job family and sick parents who takes Paxil to cope they will stop at nothing! Anything for control and power because that is what this is about, control and power!

    30. If they are getting this information from medical professionals, then the people who are getting their gun rights taken away need to sue the medical professional. HIPPA is to health care what atty-client privilege is to a criminal. I guess that confidentiality only pertains to the gov’t, not the health care field.

    31. We are living in what is known to many as the last days. In order to protect our rights, we will have to become criminals. This country was founded, fought for, bled for and died for by many a militiamen. We still maintain militias even today. The US of A is turning into a country that is no better than North Korea, China, or any of the other dictatorships the world over. We were a democracy. Then we turned into a republic. Now we have nothing more than a group of Tyrants turning our beloved country into a military state. When will America stand up and fight back. When will americans say we have had enough! It is no longer a matter of whether or not we as Americans stand up for our rights, but when. They are being stripped right and left, and the longer we stand by and watch, the harder this struggle will be. I pray everynight for our great country. I fought for it. I bled for it. And I weep for it everynight as I watch what is happening to it. WE HAVE DONE THIS TO OURSELVES. NOW WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL, WE MISS YOU!!!!!

    32. “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.”
      ― Thomas Jefferson
      And “reality check” – you’re an ignorant asshole.

    33. Since half the population has been on anti-anxiety med’s at one point or another, this will be quite a house to house rampage for them. Good luck New Yorkers.

      If there are any Americans left in that State, I suggest you leave now.

    34. What about the HIPPA Act? Those people’s medical records is private. It is illegal to give out any information about a patient to anyone without that person’s permission. That leaves the medical facilities at fault for a lawsuit…

    35. I think this story is a scam of some sort. I believe the author talked to the attorney but I question the legitimacy of the attorney. I can’t find anything credible about him. His email address is a free gmail account. His web page is a generic template with no links, his facebook page is old and outdated. There were several news station that reported he was filing a class action suit against the state earlier this year, but it appears none of them verified the stories they reported. He looks very unprofessional in these stories and hasn’t even put his dentures in for the interview. I think this is someone just trying to stir up trouble or has an ulterior motive for spreading untrue stories.

    36. nobody wants your guns. there is no tyranny. we, the majority elected someone you don’t like, and it is making you crazy. sorry about that. keep your guns, keep your crazy, enjoy.

    37. Some of you need to get your info elsewhere, CHEESY – go to the monticello website and put in that quote you say Jefferson made and you’ll see that he never said anything even remotely close to it, BULL SHIT et al – the NRA was the one who said medical records for the mentally ill should be in the system because they should not be allowed weapons, SCIPIO – best recheck your sources since it’s either impossible to say some of them were Democrats since that info isn’t publicly available or that more likely they weren’t Dems because of past association with Republicans or Libertarians, at least you didn’t mention since Cho wasn’t an American citizen and couldn’t vote even though he could legally buy weapons.

    38. I’m sure that no one ever thought it could happen to them when Hitler, Stalin, etc., etc., came into power & did it to them either…Then , before they knew what happened, millions of DEFENSELESS people were murdered…..whether this story is true or not, don’t believe that it couldn’t happen in the U.S., because it can happen ANYWHERE, if the people let it happen….History tends to repeat itself….ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

    39. Folks…spelling and punctuation. Some of you REALLY should look into it. At the very least, I could get through one of your rants without laughing so hysterically.

      Here’s a couple other things to look into:

      * If you’d read the 2nd amendment instead of having Sean Hannity just regurgitate it to you, you’d know the word “guns” does not appear. It says “arms”. And we all agree that, you can’t have tanks and missiles, even though those things are “arms”. Saying you can’t buy a cop-killer weapon does NOT mean you can’t have a gun. It just means you can’t be better armed than the Marines.

      * The Constitution, and the rights it gives you, was not given to you by your Creator. You’re thinking of that OTHER really old document…the one that’s on the “church” side of “separation of church and state”. The Constitution came from George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and all those guys back in 18th century…about 1800 years after the guy you’re thinking of. Neither God, Jesus, Mohammed, Allah, or any of the other holy people had anything to do with writing it.

      * Again, NOBODY is coming for your guns. Has the guy in the black-ops outfit flown the helicopter into your backyard to come confiscate your AK-47? Didn’t think so. And here’s a news flash…he’s not coming. Put down the Kool-Aid, turn off Rush Limbaugh, and join the rest of us in Common-Sense land, if you can find your way there without leaving a trail of breadcrumbs.

    40. Thank you Wow.It’s amazing how lathered up Some people get into a froth by listening to jugheads,ditto heads,blockheads &shitheads.TRY using a dictionary as you mouth and finger read The Constitution.

    41. How long will it be before the cowards can feel of being free in the USA, You got guys like coward Bloomberg and the other cronies want to be free or will they depend on us military and military retirees to keep them safe! I for one ain’t gonna turn my weapons in to the gun grabbers. And if they come and try to take them, I’ll feed them the business end of them!!!

    42. Something I haven’t seen talked about is getting to know your neighbors. Get to know who is for and who is against gun rights in your neighborhood. See who would be willing to come over and help defend you and your family. There are few places now where most people know their neighbors. If they come to confiscate your guns illegally an entire neighborhood would be pretty intimidating to a group of police trying to conduct a search and seizure. Remember that most police don’t want to confiscate, but they still want to feed their family and if you give them a good reason they will leave. Hopefully they realize that if an entire community is standing up to them that running in guns a blazing is not a good idea. Remember their is confidence in numbers, that is why they don’t show up in small number when conducting a search. All it is going to take is one group to stand up to this lunacy to wake the sleeping giant.

    43. I live in a liberal little town on the East Coast where your neighbors would stab you in the back in a heartbeat…but they’ll still come running to you for whatever “help” you might offer them, as long as it was for FREE. I’ve made it known in this town that I’m pro-America, I’m pro-Constitution, I won’t take shit off of any of them, and my neighbors shun me. I also happen to be the best-armed individual on my street, and I’m interested to see how these cowards react when TSHTF. I bet you ANYTHING they’ll be on my front porch, pleading for me to loan them a firearm and a box of ammo.

    44. Then they should get paid if they have a sickness that enables them to carry or own then they should get paid SSI EBT and HUD housing fare is fare , but remember these people they are taken from and others will get smart and give freely and start to buy other places for protection , I see revolution and it’s going to go down maybe the people are weak in NY but in other parts of the country it will not happen with out a fight , watch when crime is on the rise , see if the police show and they won’t because they will be to busy with the murder or rape that was committed 2 hours early , just say it and stop beating around the government bush you are all now fuck ! you are all one step closer to stepping on the FEMA train to the FEMA camp to be disposed of , the dogs of war are getting ready to wake up and there’s a lot of ass to chew up.

    45. i would really like to see the sources of information for this article. with so many serious issues here its important that all discussions and media opinions are very accurate and responsible.

    46. It’s time to start fighting. New York, you get to go first. Patriots in surrounding states will help. It’s time to start the war.

    47. I would sacrifice my life just to shoot the balls off one of these communist bastards. Someday, someone is going to make a gun stock out of plastic monopoly money and give these guys something to think about.

    48. When Obamacare is fully implemented all of EVERYONE’S medical records will be in the hands of the government, no one in America will have any right to medical privacy anymore. Except of course our ELECTED GOVERNMENT officials. This is no longer a republic, we now live under DICTATORSHIP.

    49. This is what we want, to get the guns out of the hands of the mentally unstable…. this news heading is a bit misleading and 99% of pro2a activists are for taking the guns from those with mental illness…

    50. Anyone who doesn’t believe that James Tresmond is an attorney can look him on the NYS Courts website. He is a licensed attorney in good standing. And he is also the one who has already prepared litigation against NYS in western NY. It’s a class action lawsuit, and people are still signing up. He represents a number of individuals who have been ordered to turn in their firearms.

    51. Define “mentally unstable”- women who have had severe post partum depression usually get that depression resolved with meds and time. Are they mentally unstable? There are lots of people with depression, anxiety and the like, who have their condition controlled by meds and are nto a danger to society…would I want a sociopath or psychopath to have a firearm? No…but do I think everyone who has been diagnosed with depression or anxiety to lose their firearms? NO. because many of them are NOT mentally unstable.

    52. The day Obama passed his EO on gun control I said it was over for everyone who went to DR. Anyone on Med’s NO GUNS, all ex Military with PPSD NO GUNS. Marijuana? NO GUNS that pretty some up 60% USA. Honestly I think NY city deserves to have there guns taken since they voted for BLOOMBERG anyways. This guy walks around with +4 armed guards and he wants everyone disarmed. Enjoy your Big gulp.

    53. Who ever said Germany didn’t ban guns for civilians have no idea what they are talking about. It was a crime to have any kind of gun, in NAZI Germany unless you were military or some kind of the many police they had at the time. They also banned guns in all the countries they took over. Made it very hard for the freedom fighters in France, Poland, and all other countries.
      Mental illness is just a jumping off point to take guns. The gun grabbers are crazy. Anything can be used. They will always come up with something to take your guns, so if you go along with mental illness, they will find a way to put you in that category.If someone has lived 40 years with some kind of “mental illness,” owned guns, and never hurt anyone, this is no reason to take guns from them. Few people who are mentally ill are violent. Yes, some own guns and hunt and do the same things we do. Going on a witch hunt of mentally ill will only backfire in our face. It is a trick of the gun grabbers to say,”if you want to own guns, that classifies you as crazy and mentally ill.” See where these people are going with this. There are no limits. Unless someone has been PROVED to be VIOLENTLY mentally ill and have been put in a hospital and said to be dangerous by those doctors, there, they can’t be found guilty of any crime before they commit one.

    54. Unfortunately, I am afraid there is going to come a time that a NY gun-owner is going to be prepared and waiting for them to come knocking on their door and it will turn into another blood bath because NY legislators and politicians didn’t think about what they were doing or putting in place… the bullies in office now showing up on your doorstep and confiscating your stuff, this is not going to fair well for either side in the end.

    55. To take or not to take that is the question here. No my fellow pats, the answer is they will take them if WE do not stand up to them, amen. If anyone of you out there believe as some herein that they are not going to take them you are deluded. Just look at moden history and know that is their ultimate plan for the “One world Government” to have it all their way with US. There are many out there that wish to disect the USA into parcels. We own the world money and now that we cannot pay them back, they willtake it from US if WE let them. So, what will you do or have you done today to stop this takeover of our “Free” Nation today????

    56. I’m from NY and the confiscation as cited by lawyer Tresmond is true and real. Others in the free states take note, it CAN happen to you. Many here doubted our representatives would sell us out, and then they did just that. Those who back the 2A will not forget come election time… for years to come. The rest, who get their thoughts from mainstream media, will be too lazy to go and vote. Molon Labe.

    57. Awww, crap. I hate it when I’m right (in this vein anyway).

      Been arguing about/against this “mental illness = Violent” meme since the NRA helped create the NICS “improvement” act that made the confiscation lists possible.

      Way to go NRA.

    58. I know lots of crazy people that own guns , so what they have rights to , and as far as people that smoke weed 2/3 of the people i know smoke weed , and are hunters , own guns , and a even race stock cars ! rednecks, and bikers is all i run with and i don’t know of any one that does not have a gun of some kind , even the ones that were guests of the feds and the state , And i have no problem with any one of them having firearms . And some are even on crazy pills from the VA . However we are talking Texas here lol .

    59. Laugh it up, “Reality Check”. When the bottom finally drops out, people like you will face the firing squad. Enjoy the time you’ve got left.

    60. This is such bullshit.. First the article makes it sound like they dropped a law where its 100% illegal to own a gun, next they are saying its because they found a guy was taking anti depressants or whatever so they said he cant have a gun.. And sure people will say “bla bla bla liberal obama lover” or whatever. But i didnt vote for obama, and i love guns! I own 3 12 gauges, a .45 glock, a .357, a .380, an AR-15, and an Ak i got a few weeks ago. Just dont believe everything you read on the internet, if .00000000001% of the shit that is said on the internet was true, THIS WORLD WOULD BE SO FUCKED!!!! Cause iv seen some wacky shit on the web, and a shocking amount of people actually buy into it.. Just use logic and reasoning and do some thiking of your own before you spew garbage out of your suck hole and sound mildly retarded…. Im willin to bet that 80% of you who actually believe this also believed that “PLANTET X” or nibiru was gonna smack into the earth last year too.. choads

    61. after all that being said, if this true, and they really are starting some creepy Nazi bullshit, then il be one of the first to start rebelling.

    62. @Wow on April 9, 2013 at 12:01 AM said:

      Here’s a couple other things to look into:

      * If you’d read the 2nd amendment instead of having Sean Hannity just regurgitate it to you, you’d know the word “guns” does not appear. It says “arms”. And we all agree that, you can’t have tanks and missiles, even though those things are “arms”. Saying you can’t buy a cop-killer weapon does NOT mean you can’t have a gun. It just means you can’t be better armed than the Marines.

      -> What constitutes a firearm being a cop killer, is the intent of the user. What you describe as being a cop killer, I would call a life saver (notice that even cops use those firearms). The word arms, implies the ability to defend a free state, if you were as informed as you purport, you would know that most of the principle writers of the Bill of Rights took issues with a standing army (see Marines). Standing armies were viewed as a means to oppress where history had proven that they would eventually lead to tyranny.

      * The Constitution, and the rights it gives you, was not given to you by your Creator. You’re thinking of that OTHER really old document…the one that’s on the “church” side of “separation of church and state”. The Constitution came from George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and all those guys back in 18th century…about 1800 years after the guy you’re thinking of. Neither God, Jesus, Mohammed, Allah, or any of the other holy people had anything to do with writing it.

      -> Umm, the endowed by our creator is rooted in several documents that don’t directly relate to the Bible and came centuries after Jesus walked the earth. Thomas Jefferson, the writer of the ‘Separation Letters’ and the Declaration of Independence, believed in the idea of natural law. Jefferson drew heavily on the writings of John Locke, using his Second Treatise of Civil Government as the basis for the case against the throne of England. John Locke’s basic premise was that all people had the inherent right to self defense, and that people join into society for the purpose of a greater means of defending themselves, where free men have the right to defend against and prevent tyranny. So, I would suggest that you do a little more research – I would personally start with the Declaration of Independence, paying close attention to the “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” maybe, after reading that, you might take the time to get square up your original idea?

      * Again, NOBODY is coming for your guns. Has the guy in the black-ops outfit flown the helicopter into your backyard to come confiscate your AK-47? Didn’t think so. And here’s a news flash…he’s not coming. Put down the Kool-Aid, turn off Rush Limbaugh, and join the rest of us in Common-Sense land, if you can find your way there without leaving a trail of breadcrumbs.

      -> If the reports in the article you are commenting on are true, then there certainly are those who are having their firearms confiscated. Using the black helicopter rhetoric doesn’t serve you very well.

    63. Now if the U.S. Senate see fit to vote the UN’s ATT in to being we are all going to be really screwed.
      What is it going to take for people to wake up and smell the coffee in this country?

      I figure I am screwed anyway. Since I am a trained combat vet. An ex cop. A card carrying member of the NRA. And if all of that is not enough according to DHS I am a member of the 3rd largest Terror group in the USA. The American Legion

    64. I would like to point out a few little factoids- 1- that never happened… 2- I am a democrat and I love my guns, picked them out my self over years- and I am a hell of a shot. BUT WHAT ORDINARY PERSON NEEDS AN AR 15? Answer- 0… Soldiers need to be trained strictly to carry weapons like the AR 15 into BATTLE! They need intensely personal back round checks too- What makes you think that any of you right wing “militia” men are better than out our ACTUAL – SANCTIONED military???

    65. as we can now see..when a government issues a permit or anything ..they can take it away….when your rights come from GOD..no man can take them away…if you do not resist mans recall of God’s rights then you are not godly you are a subject of the state…and you will be treated as such….God or the state that is for a free man and woman to decide…no one said it would be easy….but it will be your choice….choose wisely…..scumbag politicians will rot in hell…I for one do not want to be along side of them…I choose God’s commands..not man’s demands..how about you

    66. If gun owners just SIT ON THEIR ASSES and LET this happen without standing up and saying “you’re NOT taking my guns”, then they’re no better than the thugs who are running the show. Seriously folks, HOW MUCH of this crap are we going to just sit down and take before we DO SOMETHING!!!

    67. The following was originally posted by John Noveske (of Noveske Rifle Works) a few days before his death.

      Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.

      Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

      Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

      Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

      Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

      Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

      Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

      Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

      A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

      Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

      A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

      Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

      TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

      Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

      James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

      Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

      Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

      Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

      Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

      Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

      Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

      Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

      Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

      Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

      Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

      Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)

      Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
      (Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)

      Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.

      Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

      Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

      Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

      A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

      Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”

      Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

      Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

      Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
      Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

      Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
      New York high school.

      Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….

      What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az

      What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado

      What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or

      What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
      Roberts is the only one that I haven’t heard about being on drugs of some kind.

    68. I find it fascinating that there is not one shred of actual EVIDENCE to support this, just “somebody said it was true,” and not even a mention of it at the web site or FB page of the attorney cited in the article. In fact, the attorney’s web site is nothing but a welcome page with no functionality at all, and his FB page hasn’t been updated in 3 weeks.

      Oh, and just for the record, it’s not HIPPA, it’s HIPAA (Health Information Portability and Accountability Act).

    69. May I simply just say what a comfort to uncover an individual who
      really understands what they’re talking about on the net. You definitely understand how to bring a problem to light and make it important. More and more people must check this out and understand this side of your story. I was surprised you aren’t more popular since you surely possess the gift.

    70. Protesting is no longer going to cut it. Tyranny is here, and posting on facebook and protesting is your solutions. Your rights will be stripped away unfortunately. Kings must sometimes be ripped from power as history has shown. I guess we just give them up? How do we fight this form of tyranny? Hire lawyers and sue! As law enforcement refuse to enforce or go to work. As Military oppose unlawful orders that pit you against citizen.

    71. I hope the citizens of NYC and thei Sitate of NY have learned a lesson on this issue and when both of these Retards come up for Re-election I hope the Pro Gunners band togeteher and try and get rid of them ( even if they gotta vote formickey mouse !!) Then hopefully theg can get the law changed so it isnt so draconian, Im ashamed to hear myself say im ashamed to say im an American but its true, our moral compass is broken and has been sense 2008. I feel like im watching the movie (Dumb and Dumber) when I hear the newest stuff out of NY, ( can you ban stupid??) Lol
      . I can see yanking someones permit if they are sick in the head, violent tendancies & out bursts. If someone is on meds to sleep at night then no( leave their guns alone) thought some anti anxiety drugs are used for both also check your scripts if they are handwritten to make sure your Dr isnt setting you up for a fall and he/she isnt doing it because they are a closet anti gun nuttter!,,.. this shit reminds me of stories I have read of Hitlers rise to power as well as Stalin.
      It seems to me the whole NE USA ( above Virginia and excluding NH and VT) the rest of these sataes are lead by Moronic Democrap, Liberals, Crusading FFF’s ( I hate to tell them this but the 60’s are over !!! Go find some other GD Crusade to do ( like save a tree or some bull) rather than shove your warped views down our ggg m

    72. Confiscators show up at your door. Two choices: 1) Kill the confiscators, or 2) Bend over and take it.

      Now we will find out who really supports the right to bear arms. Probably precious few; but there may be enough, because the supply of confiscators is not unlimited.

    73. Since all these so-called “officials” in charge seem to be the ones making all the evaluations of people, gun owners in particular, I want to know and have always wanted to know WHO IS GOING TO WATCH THE WATCHERS? WHO WILL EVALUATE THE EVALUATORS? WHO WILL CONFISCATE FROM THE CONFISCATORS? Those just “following orders” should be the first ones to be taken out. All the advice in these posts that say “don’t turn them in” may not be able to understand the pressures here. People have jobs, bank accounts, homes, families, and they are between the rock and the hard place. I don’t have all the answers.

    74. If you really want gun control lightened, you need to solve the problem behind the laws. Mass killings are going to happen regardless of choice of weapon. The other much larger statistic maker for gun violence is gang related, and its not even the largest account for gun related deaths (suicide is), but if you wanna stop gang violence, then you gotta cut their funding. I call for an end to the prohibition of sex, drugs, and full-auto Rock’n’Roll firearms. Legalize prostitution and recreational drugs, and you effectively destroy the ability for organized crime to fund their armies. When there are less reasons to protect the people from these thugs, there are less reasons to restrict gun ownership.

    75. NY better make sure that if they are confiscating from every day citizens that they also take a look at their own officers. High stress jobs in law enforcement have long term effects on the officers as well- some of their own may be on these drugs or have PTSD. What’s good for one should be good for all.

    76. Don’t forget, Brando… The government [also organized crime] funds THEIR armies with fines, incarcerations, seized property and direct profits from drug distribution AND the War on Drugs.

      They make TONS more money from prohibition than they ever would in a free country. That’s the ONLY reason prohibition exists because they have proven over and over that they don’t give a rat’s a55 what the People want.

    77. I would like to address an earlier post from Doubting Thomas on April 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM. Here is the quote “I find it fascinating that there is not one shred of actual EVIDENCE to support this, just “somebody said it was true,” … “Thomas” is trying to de-rail this discussion by making you think he has really done his homework and those of us who believe this is true haven’t checked out our facts. This attorney (unlike “Doubting”) is for real and he is opposing New York’s new gun law based on the 5th amendment. Doubting Thomas, you are either for gun grabbing, or are a pseudo-intellectual. I invite you to go to the following web site: http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/196500/1/Local-Attorney-Plans-Lawsuit-Against-NY-Gun-Law
      This will take you to the news broadcast of a local TV station in Buffalo, NY, covering this issue with an interview with the lawyer. “Thomas” – shame on you.

    78. When are they going to take the guns from the cops too …they are citizens too …if you take the guns away from the people, are you saying cops aren’t people? Are you taking them also from the rich and politicians? Now most important how are you going to ensure you are taking them from the criminals?
      Also in a technological society when the gun is considered a primitive weapon, you’ll probably either see a ‘lower’ weapon or much more dangerous weapons come out and crime to rise. Remember if you can’t trust the citizens with a firearm and you are a citizen, then you really can’t trust yourself …are you sure you’re making the right choices? Remember if a law abiding citizen is not authorized to have a gun then ANYONE with a gun should be treated as a criminal regardless, of badge, rank, or position. Anyway, removing guns from law abiding citizens in the US is an act of overthrowing the government or treason whether it’s internal or external to the governing body since in reality most threats are actually internal to an organization.

    79. Nothing but a bunch of Socialist basturds. I would take my handgun(s), permits, etc., to a bank and lock them up in a safe deposit bank and turn the key over to a (trusted) friend. The authorities would be told that they have no legal right to confiscate personal property without due process, and that until that was ultimately determined by the highest court to which you can appeal, they would not get the gun. The permit is a moot point since you aren’t in possession of the gun(s) it was issued for. Again, it’s ALL a matter of due process, not activist politicians in a police state.

    80. Time for everyone in every state to find a hideaway (or oil heavily and wrap in plastic and bury it) for your guns off your property, e.g., buried in airtight containers in the woods, or a storage facility that only you and your closest friends/family know about, move it to another state and go there when needed, etc.

      The time is coming where all states will be subjected to Federal quasi-military assaults on those firearm owners, and we may all have to support the individual states and groups of people.

      Given that the federal government is legislating pains and penalties to an easily ascertainable group through registration, this constitutes a BILL OF ATTAINDER, outlawed by the U.S. Constitution.

    81. You folks need to take action when you receive those letters. Walk to the nearest trash can, tear the letter into as many pieces as possible, throw into the trash can. There, you’ve taken action and all is well!

    82. My brother text me while on a business trip to new york city , a bill board he saw that read, if you know anyone with a illegal gun to call to call and report it for a reward. If this isn’t nazism I don’t know what is.

    83. When they come for the gun and permit just tell them you must of lost it on one of your sleepwalking adventures that some people go on while on these drugs.

    84. These people that we so call our government are really,really stupid as F*** taking away our right to have firearms is gonna stop crime that’s a bunch of B.S. do they really thinks that criminal’s will heed to this,I say hell no they will not.so why take away our rights.NEED TO GET THIS PERSON OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE HELL HE COULDN’T EVEN SHOW WHERE HE WAS BORN AT GET THAT NASTY ASS OUT OF OUR OFFICE AND LETS TAKE BACK AMERICA…………..

    85. Edward – A safe deposit box? Really? If you think safe deposit boxes are safe from the government then you are naive, at least.

    86. When our physician group was ‘introduced’ to HIPPA, we got the impression that the REAL purpose was to give government greater access to records without needing to show a good reason (based on the ‘fine print’ in the law), and that it did essentially nothing to the already-existing prohibitions on sharing information with ‘unauthorized individuals’ in the civilian sector. Based on our experience over the past decade or so, I think those impressions were true.

    87. Not seeing a blood bath anywhere. People always talk bad about what will happen if they try this, then the govt starts it and no one does crap. People sit in the pot not noticing the water is nearly boiling, but since it’s been turned up slowly, we are ok with it, as the govt would never make it boil and kill us…

    88. What happen to innocent until proven guilty.
      Hillary is from New York. She along with Obama have blood of Dead Americans on their hands.
      Where is the truth, justice and Constitution which is the LAWS Of The Republic Of The United States Of America.. We The People Will Have The Last Word…. If LEOs know they are breaking the laws then they to must pay….

    89. So ONE guy getting a letter from the state constitutes a sweeping gun grab? I’d be more concerned if this did not appear to be one single, isolated incident.

    90. Hey it’s ny and you only get the rights bloomy and company says you get. So get in line and do what bloom/hitler says.

    91. There is no confiscation going on and no evidence of it.

      But don’t let facts get in the way of paranoid fantasies. I’m sure plenty of you came in your pants because this confirmed your wet dreams.

    92. My solution to not wanting to see lib trolls on the recent list every time I come here…. Add a report option ammoland…

    93. Wow….IF the government is coming for everyone’s guns (300 million and counting) then they need to start with the posters here. Bunch of flippen nut jobs here! Sounds like most of you don’t deserve a second amendment right.

    94. the drugs they are taking is called power. Given initially to elect someone new who would benefit the politicians region. Then greed takes over because the money is too great to turn away and everyone does it. Then the pols gain so much power they are exempt from their constituants wishes. They spread the money around and the people don’t care because the government takes care of them. Leave New York while you can but if your against the Constitution, stay there. The California rejects have overridden Colorado and the citizens of free states don’t want you to do the same to them. I live in Minnesota, have a Democratic controlled state government, but they know that they wil not be re-elected if they vote for useless gun control. MY GUNS MY CONTROL.

    95. I love upstate NY. I am in the military and wanted to retire here. NOT ANYMORE! I am going to pay my taxes somewhere I can have my AR-15!!! Taking my business elsewhere you commie bastards!

    96. I’m in Texas, but if I was in NY these mother fers just declared war. Send that goddamn ** to come get the mother fers !!! HBH

    97. This most recent “example” is a SINGLE case where the individual was REPORTED to show signs or possibility to do harm to himself or others.

      There were 3-4 similar cases since the NY gun laws took effect, most of those are also being handled by the same lawyer. Once we get into mass confiscation, there will be reason to worry- it does no good to the cause to blow things out of proportion and make the situation appear it’s something it’s not. This isn’t a mass mailing.

      In a time of revolution, no one will care about these laws and whether or not this guy has a gun. As long as he’s a good shot and is on your side.

    98. “Anti-racists” ONLY seem to exist where there are White people, They DO NOT Target anyone except White people FOR “racism,” Nor do they Protect White people FROM racism. “Anti-racists” are only satisfied that there’s no “racism” when there’s no white people. It’s genocide. “Anti-racist” is a code word for Anti-White.

    99. That goddam jew wants you NY’ers to turn in your pistol id cards ? Is that like a foid card ! I’ve never seen one or never will.Thats the exact fucking reason you dont want these cocksuckers to know shit about your weapons.Your long guns will be next ! HBH

    100. When they show up I hope they walk into an a hail of gun fire. After it happens a few times then when these scumbags will realize they might not go home when their shift ends word will spread.

    101. @Cael
      You might look at the letters that have gone out to vets indicating they are incapable of handling their affairs due to some unclear and unsubstantial claim. We allowed the govt to nationalize healthcare. The resulting loss of liberty will happen in small sample sizes in the beginning. But like the circular rings of water around a singular disturbance, they grow exponentially.

    102. NY’s finest wont want shit to do with this. They are hoping people will be sheep and actually turn in their weapons peacefully ? I know who has the mental disorders in NY. If you aint willing to fight to keep it,you damn sure dont need it,or your freedoms.You have right is on your side !!!! HBH

    103. @drummerboy

      This has nothing to do with national health care. Canada has had national healthcare for decades and their gun laws are becoming more lax.

      The 2 cases I know of involving vets, BOTH vets were diagnosed with bad cases of PTSD. Again in BOTH cases they were REPORTED to have a significant threat to themselves or others. The fact that more vets have died due to PTSD suicide than have died on the fields of Afghanistan can attest to how bad PTSD can be. It’s not like someone is trolling the national health records (which were a national database LONG before “national obamacare” came in to play) to disarm Americans- if that were the case, over half of us would lose our guns.

      Again, this single case is being used improperly as a wedge and making us logical “gun nuts” look bad at the hands of a few kooky opportunists who live in fear of hypothetical and blown out of proportion situations.

    104. @WhiteRabbit you sound like someone who only surrounds them self with white people. I’m white and I live in a “black/immigrant” community. There are lots of Blacks, Hispanics and Browns who call out each other for their racism. IE- they’re “anti-racists” who have very little to do with whites. With almost no whites around to be seen.

    105. “MI Patriot on April 8, 2013 at 10:30 PM said:

      If they are getting this information from medical professionals, then the people who are getting their gun rights taken away need to sue the medical professional. HIPPA is to health care what atty-client privilege is to a criminal. I guess that confidentiality only pertains to the gov’t, not the health care field.

      There is little to no similarity between HIPAA and attorney client privilege. There are numerous exceptions to HIPAA and HIPPA specifically permits disclosure of protected health information as required by law. This alone creates a hole big enough to put an aircraft carrier through since any law will do whether it was passed before or after the HIPAA statute. See below.

      HIPAA does little to keep your information from government agencies if they want it, unless the healthcare provider just refuses to comply. They can then force compliance with a court order and with negative licensing actions.


      “Required by Law. Covered entities may use and disclose protected health information without individual authorization as required by law (including by statute, regulation, or court orders)”

      There is probably a NY state law requiring this information to be reported to the state already. They are now probably using the information that has been previously reported as opposed to going out and collecting it fresh from individual providers.

    106. Cael Stigweard on April 9, 2013 at 10:55 PM said:

      The fact that more vets have died due to PTSD suicide than have died on the fields of Afghanistan can attest to how bad PTSD can be.

      That’s not a “fact”. It’s a false claim that you cannot support.

    107. HIPPA permits release of protected health information when:

      “Required by Law. Covered entities may use and disclose protected health information without individual authorization as required by law (including by statute, regulation, or court orders).”

      This is obviously a hole big enough to drive a truck through which renders HIPAA virtually useless for keeping PHI from prying government officials. If they want it all the have to do is pass a law, if they don’t already have one.

      Source: HHS website – Summary of the HIPAA privacy rule.

    108. A major component of these SSRI/SNRI drugs, such as Prozac, Paxil, Lexapro, etc., is fluoride, the same toxic “drug” that is added to the water supply in 60 + percent (and nearly every major city) of the US . . . so, technically, the vast majority of us are on anti-depressant and/or anxiety medication, even though it is not prescribed by a doctor. But, PLEASE, don’t take my word for it. Try Google for yourself.

    109. – “John Doe” (who?)
      – “no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action” (so they say)
      – “seeing a therapist for anxiety” (actual diagnosis please?)
      – “had been prescribed an anxiety drug” (again, actual diagnosis and what IS the drug and what are the potential side effects / drug-interaction effects list? What happens if this guy’s “anxiety” turns into rage when the drug mixes with a few beers?)
      – “The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.” (AGAIN, what drug was it? What was the actual medical diagnosis? And what in the letter says that they are doing a “records search”?)

      So-called “story” is high on innuendo and lacking for truthfulness and facts.

      I call bullshit on this “nut with a blog” post. I find it much more likely that the THERAPIST who prescribed the drug reported the guy out of worry about what he’d do.

    110. John Doe. Did you bother to listen to the Attorney of Record give a radio interview on this ? the link is in the story. And do you really not understand why alot of details would not be released yet in an ongoing Court case ? Something that happens every day in this Country ? Believe what you want, but this IS happening!

    111. Unfortunately, shortly after I received the letter all my guns and ammo fell off the boat in an “unfortunate” accident. Therefore I have nothing to turn in.

    112. So, can I ignore the law with impunity?!? After all if I’m too crazy to own a gun, then by the same standard I’m too crazy to be held accountable for violating the law by owning the gun in the first place.

    113. Gun Control is a violation of the 2nd amendment and the Constitution.

      In other words, if the government breaks the laws that govern THEM, then they have NO AUTHORITY to enact or enforce laws to govern US.

      Besides, anyone who thinks they need PERMISSION to exercise a RIGHT is retarded.

    114. I’ve thought the same thing as Sosalty for a while. If you live in a state that requires a special permit or ID to buy or own a gun, you lost a long time ago and should have been politically active in overturning that for years. Ridiculous to require government permission before owning a gun. Only now that they are being revoked is anyone throwing a fit, well guess what folks, the water has begun to boil, and you are the frog.

    115. This story is 5% fact and 95% bullshit….

      Putting doubt on the supposedly confiscation, it has nothing to do with what meds you are on. The true part of the story; there is a law SAFE ACT and a NY lawyer is trying to file a class action lawsuit against the entire law. The false part of the story is it is confiscation is already happening. That is why no names are mentioned, sources say and John Doe.
      Psychiatrist are required to report to law enforcement and others if you are going to kill yourself, why not report when you are going to kill others?

    116. @BS

      It isn’t a crime UNTIL the act is committed.

      It’s like your homosexual lover suing you for giving him/her/it AIDS before you sodomize him/her/it.

      Thoughts are NOT crimes; no matter what some whiney-assed libtard leads you to believe.

    117. The REAL problem remains that over the past four or five decades, WE, THE PEOPLE have ignored our responsibilities and duties as citizens to actively MAINTAIN our government and the elected or appointed officials. We see a football stadium packed with 60,000 people, but we cant get 60 people to show-up at the city council or county commission meetings. THAT is how WE are responsible for what we are facing right now! We are getting our asses handed to us for our complacency. Hell, after questioning MOST citizens across the United States that are always the first to complain? 95% of them aren’t even registered to vote! As always, when I make statements I always beg that… Somebody, anybody PROVE ME WRONG!

    118. The powers that be are well on their way to creating a ” papers please” police state. Last Sunday my wife and I decided to go for a bike ride. About an hour into our 15 mile trek my wife asked me to stop for a water break. We chose a nice little clearing under a massive oak along the road way to stop. While we were sitting under the tree drinking water and talking, a police cruiser stopped in the right lane of the road and put on his flashers. The officer got out and asked us what was going on. My wife explained that we were taking a water break. The officer asked us to produce Id’s, then my wife was asked to step over to the cruiser. The cop began to question my wife about me, does he have any firearms in his backpack, was he arguing with you, are you afraid to tell me the truth. When I heard my wife getting angry, I started to walk over and was immediately ordered back to the tree. After he ran our Id’s and realized that we had absolutely clean records( I have a CCP) He apologized and returned our ID’s. As he was leaving I asked him why he stopped…his answer – ” Our force is trying to be more proactive, these field interviews give us an idea of who were dealing with in different daily situations.

    119. Appeal the ruling. Don’t let the government deny your rights. IANAL and not in NY, but you probably have limited time to request an appeal or a hearing. Don’t give them without a court order.

      Outrageous that the State is violating medical privacy.

    120. @Steve

      I wrote:
      “The fact that more vets have died due to PTSD suicide than have died on the fields of Afghanistan can attest to how bad PTSD can be.”

      Steve wrote:
      “That’s not a “fact”. It’s a false claim that you cannot support.”


      Unfortunately for you I can support it.

      Total Military Personnel Deaths as of February 5th 2013:
      Operation Iraqi Freedom: 4,409
      Operation New Dawn: 66
      Operation Enduring Freedom: 2,165

      Total: 6640 since 2003 (beginning of OIF, average of 664/year)

      (source: http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RS22452.pdf )

      At the moment, 2011 stats are at about 18 veterans committing suicide DAILY, or 6,570/year. Since then numbers have increased.

      (source: http://www.politifact.com/new-jersey/statements/2012/jan/26/rush-holt/rush-holt-says-18-veterans-commit-suicide-daily/)

      I don’t talk out my rear, like most around here seem to do. I actually perform due diligence on information before whining about it.

    121. With EMR, electronic medical records, mandated by Obama-Care, doctors don’t need to open their records, the government can glean the information they want from the huge data base of computerized records in the “cloud.” Privacy is a joke these days.

    122. I don’t understand how it is legal to infringe/restrict a person’s 2nd Amendment right without adjudication or due process of the law?

      Why aren’t we concentrating on the obsession of the “gun control” community to restrict our rights without adjudication (judge, due process, lawyers, experts, defense, appeal, etc.)? They are trying to set a dangerous precedent!

    123. EVERYONE who takes a brain chemistry altering prescription should be barred from ALL weapon ownership. And driving. and breeding.
      Darwinism cannot work if the defective are allowed to thrive.

    124. Minor corrections to your list–
      These 2 entries are the same event
      -A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
      -Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

      -Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
      took place in Madison, AL, next door to Huntsville.

    125. @jefe

      It’s UNLAWFUL for the government to restrict ANYONE’S 2nd amendment rights; either by “adjudication” or anything else.

      “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” makes no exception for criminals and crazies.

      If you want to feel safe, you have to carry your OWN protection because there are no laws that will protect you.

    126. Gun advocates should be happy about this.

      Since Newtown, gun “enthusiasts” have consistently blamed everything BUT guns and bullets. Guns don’t kill people, crazy people kill people, video gamers kill people, four year olds kill people, but guns… they’re just misunderstood.

      So, why, oh why, would anyone who is for “gun safety” and “responsible gun ownership” be agains this?

      Quick, get the list and go buy the guns from the heavily medicated people for a $1 and then promise to sell them the gun back when all this blows over. Be sure to give the person your real address, in case they want to “get a hold of you” sooner.

    127. Wonder what would happen to Bloomberg if he came to texas and pulled this stunt? Hummmmmm
      and yet his ass is protected by his armed body guards…..go figure hes a leftist in bed with Obama a socialist marxist communist S.O.B

    128. There is no such provision in the law. The law does require mental health professionals to submit a report if they believe a patient is likely to physically harm themselves or others, for example if the patient has made violent threats. There is no evidence that the State of New York is covertly receiving medical information on mental patients. I encourage you to update your article to correct these factual errors.

      The NY SAFE Act has not resulted in the government snooping people’s medical records, and there is no provision in the law prohibiting people prescribed certain drugs from owning a firearm.

    129. Hate to break it to you Owen Johnston, but it IS happening, the Attorney involved has confirmed it multiple times , including on a radio interview ( link is embedded in the article ) and now an Albany NY Area TV station has reported it as well, including on camera comments from the Erie County Clerk and a terse, short statement from someone in the NY State Police which amounts to The County Clerk and the State Police pointing the finger at each other.

    130. I live in NY and a persons Pistol permit and weapons were stripped due to him supposedly taking anti anxiety medicine. The problem is the state police made a mistake and named the wrong man. How’s that law working for Coumo and all the other libtards. I now know Hitler should have put liberals in the oven to stop them from breeding.

    131. TO Cael Stigweird: Your either dumb or a liar you pick. 18 suicides a day in the armed forces and its getting worse. How do you explain 369 in all of 2012. Obamanomics at libtard school. Looser

    132. I was just kidding. The facts are all in order. My boifriend asked me to post an argument to rile up the right-wingers like the ones who arrested him for jizzing on a customers hamburger last week at Burger King where he works.

      His hammer-roids are acting up again and I jerked off with the last of his soothing ointment so he’z pissed off and impatient with the world.

      My bad, yo!

    133. “Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!”

      Sure. Of course you did.

    134. Ok Cal, care to elaborate precisely why you find it so hard to believe that I have spoken to the Attorney ? More then once in fact at this point. Its not difficult to find someones phone number, particularly an Attorney whose name is associated with the case. So I called, explained who I was, what I did, asked if he minded me asking some questions about the case and confirming it, which he obviously did, and I wrote the story. Whats so unbelievable ? Thats how journalists get information to write.

    135. When the people, of western NY, decide to rise up, en mass, and fight this, in the streets if necessary, they will find themselves having ALLOT of “friends” coming to stand with them, AGAINST THE STATE!!

      The US Supreme Court had better get busy, REAL FAST, to enforce their prior rulings on private gun ownership! Else the ensuing blood letting will be on their cowardly hands.

    136. “If they really want to end violence with guns, just make it illegal for Democrats to own them. Lanza? AUSTISTIC Democrat. Columbine shooters? FBI parents.

      Thanks for the opportunity, you POS.

    137. The people need to start a list of all the turn coat traitors so we will know how much rope we are going to need when the time comes, and it is coming.

    138. I read a national gun owner work stoppage it will shut down the country no shooting needed. I agree it is worth 4 or 5 days salery to keep my guns. Best solution I have seen so far.

    139. I was going to write something but (MIKE) just
      pulled the trigger on on my thoughts..GREAT idea
      mike!!!! its worth a try and it’s worth dying for

    140. So now we know why our doctors have been asking us if we own guns! And our kids are being indoctrinated in the schools that they should give up their Constitutional rights for safety and security & that the 2nd Amendment is old and outdated and you really don’t have a right to own firearms. Now we have New York CONFISCATING guns from residents only based on the medications they are taking. Never mind these people have no history of mental illness, violent behavior or a criminal back ground. Who care too, that these same meds are used to treat other health concerns like migraine headaches! I hope there is a LARGE class action lawsuit against the state of New York and those responsible for such tyranny!

    141. They send out these letters to turn in your Pistol Owner ID and to turn in your weapons because of a medicine your taking that helps you.Are they going to do the same for LEO who are getting help and taking meds?This is so wrong on so many levels.Non-compliance makes sense.The Constitution,American Disabilities Act,and so much is being violated.April 19th,1995 a terrible day in OKC.Why not turn in your stuff on April 19th,2013 to the designated place which is probably a police station and deliver it in a U-Haul truck.You know just park it and walk away.After one of these deliveries they might change their minds about wanting their Pistol I.D.”s and confiscating your guns.God Forgive me for writing that as I want things done peacefully,but sometimes you have to make some noise.The state of New York its Governor and the city of New York’s Mayor need a wake up call.

    142. I am a non-violent felon, convicted of a victimless crime….ONCE. I will not now or ever surrender my firearms to anybody. I mind my own business, own my own business and stay out of others’ business. Try to take my guns and someone aint gona make it home when their shift is done. I guaranfuckintee ya

    143. It sounds to me like dems are trying to start another civil war.These people think this country is their own fifedom.They break laws federal and state to suit their own agenda.Do they really want this to happen??I’ve heard that police and military are more pro gun than not,now what??? Someone better get their heads on straight or this country is in trouble.

    144. “There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetuated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.” – Charles de Montesquieu

    145. Oh, so you TALKED to the lawyer! Well that’s different. This isn’t a paranoid, gun nut conspiracy at ALL. You talked to him, and then you told us what he said. That is tantamount to real, actual evidence.

    146. Check Yahoo news from this past week. Headline re: Unknown victory for gun grabbers. Seems that Jeffie IM jas now has GE credit refusing to allow use of their credit company for gundhops. http://news.yahoo.com/financial-gun-control-ge-capital-quietly-cuts-off-203631904–finance.html Also Citibank and some others have done the same. Give your bank hell…better yet cut up GE backed credit cards and send them back with a note telling them why. Chevron gas cards are under GE for one. We will be moving ALL our trust maccounts from Chase and Citibank this coming week and telling the bank officers exactly why.

    147. This NY safe act is so wrong to tell people who take SSRI meds with no criminal history to turn in their Pistol ID”S and firearms.We have to stop this madness now before it goes across the U.S. Next it will be gun schools.If you take these meds you can’t attend.And it will go crazy.Stop it now!!!

    148. Because of job stress,there are many leos who have or are taking these “nerve drugs” prescribed by their doctor. There are records of who is taking what in the doctor’s records,in the pharmacies, and now probably somewhere in a central location in Albany. If They are going to go after the citizen and not Themselves…we have a real problem.

    149. Anti-anxiety med’s are also used for other purposes that have nothing to do with one’s mental state, as they also relieve muscle spasms, and other medical problems. I don’t think a bad back is a good reason to take a persons firearms.
      Is it legal to take action against against someone because you think they might possibly do something? If my neighbor likes to get drunk, can I call the authorities and have his car taken away, because he might drive it and kill someone while he is under the influence? I think they would probably arrest me for abuse of the system, if I tried to have that done. Should anyone who goes to AA meetings have their firearms taken away?
      If the above is true, it seems like it’s just the beginning of a more intense effort at gun confiscation.

    150. Think about how many times guns are used to stop somebody from hurting others in NYS. Now if all gun owners left that schitthole state, the know it all libs would be the only ones being preyed on plus other crooks would move there too. just rewards.

    151. HIPAA does not apply to law enforcement: “To a law enforcement official reasonably able to prevent or lessen a serious and imminent threat to the health or safety of an individual or the public (45 CFR 164.512(j)(1)(i))” Administrative requests to pharmacies (i.e. a letter on official letterhead) is all it takes to get the names and addresses of people on certain medications. Why do you think there is a great push for computerized medical records? Wake up.

    152. This story is two months old. Why are you putting it out now? To the best of my knowledge, the state police admit they made a mistake of identity. I still do not think the law is right and I sincerely hope it gets repealed. I just hate seeing old stories put out as being “news”.

    153. they don’t care about mass shootings and suicides rates if they had common sense they would know that doing this to ppl that seek help will just prevent ppl in the future from stepping foward with issues leaving them un medicated and even more dangerous but still able to legally own guns

    154. They had fair warning that it would happen and they still allowed the state to write and pass this unconstitutional law that relies upon information illegally obtained by the state and local governments in order to take this action. Do NOT say it can not happen here because NY is just a glimpse of what the Federal government has planned. Keep in mind that this administration has shown time and time again that it has no hesitation about breaking laws or trampling on the Constitution.

    155. I hope that more people do what I did and vote with their feet and move out of that place. Best move I ever made in my life.

      Unfortunately most people will put up with a lot before they move and sometimes after it is too late. They may feel that they rather fight their State government but that only works if the majority of people in that State are on your side and I can tell you as a long time resident of both NY and NJ, they are not on your side. Even if you win in court they can make it so hard to use whatever you won that effectively you are still back where you started at.

    156. They can kiss my ass. I will not submit. We all have to die someday. It may as well be for a cause, something you believe in. Bring it if you want some action! ~Craig Beaudry

    157. This an outrage I have a buddy a former soldier of mine he was my 240 gunner in Iraq he lives in the Bronx. He was also not born in America he Fought for his Citizenship two tours. And yes he and I have both been treated for anxiety, where he lives he would be arrested for only exercising his 2nd Amendmant rights. I live in the deep south and firearms are normal here but my buddy in the bronx doesn’t even get the chance to defend the one life GOD has given him????

    158. You missed an amendment there.
      The 8th enumerates the rights of the people against cruel and unusual punishment.

      Now, it may be a stretch, but taking away private property that was legally purchased without any form of fair market value compensation is, in my book at least, cruel and unusual punishment.

    159. I lived in Mexico in 1973, when
      Mexico made illegal to own firearms.

      Look what happened 40 years later
      (all bad people have guns and kill
      good people.

    160. l”ets get it together ppl on April 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM said:
      what about LEO’s that are seeing shrinks and takeing meds for the s*%t they deal with?

      No way those are the Government and they are fine, shooting a civilian not a problem the Government knows best.

    161. Don’t worry folks – this is just a federal test to see how people are going to react when the nation wide confiscation begins. If you beleive otherwise then give up your guns and see how well the government will take care of you.

      Serious lack of any confidence in this government

    162. PEOPLE GET ON YOUR KNEES REPENT OF YOUR EVIL TOO GOD THE FATHER BY HIS SON <HE WILL HEAL THIS LAND SEND ALL THE DEVILS EVILDORES INTO HELL. evil men who do evil in the name of gov are still doing evil they all will pay for there evil, what so ever a mans sows he will rep GODS LAW.

    163. Why is it most bible thumpers are uneducated, probably about their own book. Evildores; I assume Evildoers. ‘he will rep gods laws’ I assume you mean ‘reap’, unless your bible includes some odd version of the house of representatives in it. Please ammoland, go ahead and delete this comment and that of ‘moses’ above me, as if you will not delete idiot trolls, I am forced against my will to troll them back. 😉

    164. A note to all active duty military people.

      No matter how much ‘stress’ you guys feel like you are under, after our lying, greasy, stinking, filthy neo-con war mongering war criminals managed to lie the US military into fighting this phony global war on terror – I recommend that every one of you guys be very, very careful about going to see some military shrink and then spilling your guts about your stress & anxiety issues. These rats are documenting your every word and those notations become a permanent part of your medical record. They’ll also try to put you on one or more of these isotropic, SSRI types of medications – and if you go along with that, you’ve just allowed your lying, criminal, devious government to nullify your Second Amendment rights.

      When you get out, if you manage to not get killed before you can – and if you go to a gun store and try to purchase a firearm for your self-protection, the forms you have to fill out will have questions about whether you’ve ever taken any of those drugs and whether you’ve been visiting a shrink. If you tell the truth, your purchase will be denied. If you lie, and get caught – you’ve broken the law and could wind up in jail.

    165. I do not know anyone that has used a gun against another human being except in war and i am 65 and a vet and I live in gun country. Vets I know throw the ssri meds in the commode. They know what those drugs will do to their minds and they refuse to take them.

    166. Tucker: Agreed, the way they treat us vets anymore, I would never tell a soldier to go see a VA shrink. Unless you just want to lose your rights with nothing good coming from it either.

      RedHawg: I once took an SSRI med that was off label prescribed for insomnia, I got terrifying nightmare that night, and can see why people on them go nuts. I quit instantly. I personally have used a gun for self defense in country, though I did not have to pull the trigger as the gun itself was enough to stop the problem. It happens more often than you know.

    167. Is there a moderator in the house? TWO anti-Semitic comments here will be quoted elsewhere to prove what wackjobs ALL of us are. Leave the Jews out of it.

    168. The reports from mental health providers will be cross refrenced with pistol permit holders and those who have REGISTERED ASSAULT WEAPONS.
      This is the New MHL 9.46 enacted 3/12/2013.
      Be aware

    169. To JP and Reality Check. We the people of NYS have filed a class action suit from day one against this unconstitutional gun grab. We are fighting this every single day. Reality check if you think we are all nuts and need to have our guns taken away. I will watch the DHS goon squad march you into a Cattle car o your way to a lovely FEMA camp. rom a very long distance that is as I will choose liberty and freedom over Tyranny

    170. This is why I would never live there nor ask permission from any authority to own, carry and use if necessary.

    171. The only two people I that I knew personally who were seeing a therapist, were active LEO. There are lots of people who take Xanax, an anti-anxiety medication, to help them sleep, reduce stress, while mourning the death of a loved one, deal with particular fears, etc.. Xanax is one of the most prescribed drugs on the market. Many also take it when they fly on an airplane, give a speech, etc.. If anything, anti anxiety medication calms people down. I think what NY is doing is going to reduce the number of people who seek mental help and that will lead to more crime and tragedies.

    172. New York Times has an article titled “War Gear Flows to Police Departments” June 8th 2014, but its a pay to view.

      If you search for “War Gear Flows to Police Departments” You’ll find related articles.

      They need this military stuff when they come for our guns!

    173. The 2nd amendment says that American citizens have the right to keep and bear arms, and that right SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON! If a mass confiscation is going on in places like NYC and Chicago, then the same is destined to happen all over the USA, and this is a PRECURSOR to some action against the people that the systemic elites know the people will not tolerate…Our history very strongly suggests that the corporations will soon send all US citizens into slave labor camps! Look at the thirteenth amendment very closely…Slavery WAS NOT outlawed!!!The legal right to own slaves simply changed hands from the individuals into those of the corporation!Auschwitz could legally run here with impunity! THEY ARE GOING TO COME FOR YOU! Your most valuable commodity to the elites is your labor. If they cannot have that FOR ANY REASON, then you will be more valuable to them as products than as living breathing consuming bodies…!!!They will soon come for you…

    174. Too late! Obozo-care, defines “Oppositional Defiant Disorder”(ODD)as a mental illness exhibited by people who have show disobedience and defiance to authority! DSM-4r states “This includes adults who exemplify “paranoia ideation” about the govt and frequently express these delusional ideation on the internet”. What we are doing here, is by definition, reason to have confiscation actions taken!
      They want to make this Nation Wide!

    175. When referring to the U.S. why do articles on ammoland prefer the word “governmental” rather than “government”? The former seems to be overly heavy and obtuse, while the latter is commonplace and easier to read.

    176. This is why, EXACTLY WHY, they’ve been pushing their PTSD scheme so heavily. Pumping our returning Veterans with drugs before they even step foot back on our soil. I’ve been screaming about it for years. PTSD is real. I get that. But they are using it to label as many Veterans as possible so they can disarm them. “Want more benefits/money? Here. sign this document saying you have PTSD and we will pay you more.” It’s a nightmare that is rapidly becoming reality. People had better start paying attention and taking this seriously.

      If they want to take our guns away, they are going to have to do it the hard way. By killing each and every last one of us.

    177. SO, Let me repeat what they are saying.

      The Servants (yours slaves) of the People which are all of you; Give us your guns or we will use our guns you said we may carry to take your gun because it will make us feel safe from you. Yet every gun crime is in the commission of someone with a gun in a gun free zone.

      And lest you remember that the King of England sent men with guns to take the guns of the People in the New Colonies; aka the founding fathers of these united States of America.

      So my question is this. How are people taking a vote, passing rules, regulations and codes under color of law (not law) in clear violation of the 2nd AMD and nobody cares?

      If cowards are to afraid and irresponsible to arm themselves for self-defense; how does this make sense in your thick heads that this magically allows your slaves the authority to over step the Constitution that binds them? You volunteered to have them control you by “submitting your application for registration” to silence your voice at the Board of Elections.

      The moment your registration you submitted is accepted in your application (which you voluntarily submitted) is accept for value; you have no voice buddy, and it’s your fault.

      Anyone dumb enough to fall for that nazi scheme of turning your weapon over to the servant for safe keeping is screwed.

      How many times has a government full of public servants murdered the people the serve since 1900? How many people were murdered by their own government instituted to protect them? Take a look at the numbers before you fall for the same tricks and deceit and give up your guns…

    178. Rather poorly slanted article. The described incident is not confiscation, it’s a law enacted by the State of NY to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill. Misapplication of the law doesn’t make it wholesale gun confiscation. This is one case reported by an attorney, who says there is another that he can’t release due to confidentiality. So, two instances out of 16 million people, and no instances reported by any legitimate news service or even listed in any NY court records.

      Hard to believe either side when they use Chicken Little tactics like this article. If you don’t like the law, and are in the jurisdiction, then fight it. That’s your right and duty. The issue here is not the SAFE act, years ago NYS mandated that all prescriptions written be turned over to the state on state reporting forms and state mandated prescription forms. Nobody is protesting that this violates Federal HIPPA laws. Why?

      If you don’t like the law, or the application, vote. So far, it appears that the majority of NYS residents prefer the laws as is.

    179. Firearms that you legally purchased and own, your personal property, and you’re being mandated to surrender them? If that’s not confiscation, what is?

    180. Well I’ll be doggone, those pro-rights law-abiding firearm owners were right! I guess when lists are made they can and will be used to confiscate firearms from the American citizen.

      Thank-you for this confiscation. We now have objective proof to destroy the anti-gun liars.

    181. There are quite of few “americans” who travel from this country to go to Yemen, or Iraq, or Syria, etc to train as Jihadis and then come back to this country using their passports. We know who they are, we know where they were, and we know what they were doing, but we can’t arrest them because you can’t take someones rights away because they MIGHT do something. But it seems NY State can do that.

    182. I’m from NY and the confiscation as cited by lawyer Tresmond is true and real. Others in the free states take note, it CAN happen to you. Many here doubted our representatives would sell us out, and then they did just that. Those who back the 2A will not forget come election time… for years to come.
      William S. Guerrera
      Website: http://hunthacks.com/

    183. It’s really crazy to me that they can do that. They purchased the firearms legally and now they are basically being stolen from by the government. I hope this never happens where I live in Texas. If it does then it is proof that we don’t live in a free country anymore.

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