Australian Gun Culture: End of the 2017 Amnesty 50,000 Guns

By Dean Weingarten

Australian Gun Culture: End of the 2017 Amnesty 50,000 Guns
Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten

Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- The Australian nationwide gun amnesty is over. It lasted three months, was nationwide, and received a lot of attention, domestic and international. I was there for almost the entire amnesty, from 1 July to September 26. The Amnesty ended on 30 September.

While I was there I talked to dozens of gun owners, employees and owners of gun shops, and police officers. There are some interesting things that are not being written about or are overlooked.

Most articles are claiming that over 50,000 guns were turned in and will be destroyed. I believe the 50,000 number for guns turned in. I doubt that 50,000 firearms will be destroyed.

This amnesty was significantly different from the mandatory turn-in and compensated confiscation in 1996. During this amnesty, legal guns could be turned-in and registered. Guns could be turned in to gun shops.

If the gun shop wanted to sell the gun, they could put it on their books and sell it as a registered gun. I talked to people at two guns shops several times during the amnesty. I was able to obtain a list of guns turned in.

About 25% of the guns turned in were air guns, from observed numbers at the shops I visited. Airguns have the same legal requirements to be registered in Australia as a double barreled shotgun.

Before 1996, air guns were essentially unregulated. One rural Australian told me “every boy had an air gun”. It explains the plentiful supply of old, rusted air guns. I only saw the guns turned in in New South Wales; but that is where half of the guns turned in came from. It made sense to turn in broken or unusable air guns when the amnesty allowed it to be done legally.

Many air guns only cost $50 new. To pay the $30 registration fee and go through the trouble and legal risk attendant with firearms ownership is not worthwhile for old, rusty air guns. Turning them in outside of the amnesty was legally risky.

Second, many of the guns turned in were then registered and placed in the legal channels of commerce. I saw this happen a number of times. It is difficult to know what percentage of guns that were turned in were registered. It makes little sense for a gun shop to give a gun to the police to be destroyed if they can sell it for a couple of hundred dollars. Gun shops had the legal discretion to either keep a gun for sale or turn it in to police, if it was turned in to them during the amnesty.

I did not see many used guns for sale in Australia. A gun shop owner told me that used guns are immediately sold. It was indicated that there was a waiting list for them. The ones I saw were in back rooms, not on the display floor. I am not implying anything illegal there; only that they never made it to the display floor before someone legally purchased them, because of high demand.

Due to a peculiarity in Australian gun law, gun parts may be considered as guns. If I were a police administrator attempting to please the Prime Minister, I would want to put forward as high a count as possible. The guns are going to be destroyed, so there seems little official incentive to make a distinction. From what I saw, gun parts might count for as much as 5% of the guns turned in.

Here is the official statement from Prime Minister Turnbull.

From pm.gov.au:

Australia's 3 month National Firearms Amnesty has led to more than 50,000 firearms being handed in across Australia.

This is an overwhelming response and represents a significant reduction in the number of unregistered firearms in the Australian community.

Australia has some of the strongest gun laws in the world but illicit firearms remain a threat to community safety.

As a result of this successful amnesty, there are now 50,000 fewer firearms on the streets.

While the amnesty has now finished, the Justice Minister Michael Keenan is encouraging people who still have an unregistered firearm, or who come into possession of an unregistered firearm, to contact their local police station or firearm registry.

The official, final numbers are given.

Jurisdiction Firearms received Jurisdiction Firearms received
New South Wales 24,965 South Australia 2,648
Queensland 16,000 Australian Capital Territory 709
Victoria 3,654 Western Australia 1,242
Tasmania 1,924 Northern Territory 322

Notice that those numbers are listed as received, not destroyed.

The Australian businessinsider.com published these numbers a few days before the final tally was released:

  • Tasmania: 1,924
  • Western Australia: 1,242
  • Northern Territory: approx. 320
  • New South Wales: 14,466 (as of 7 Sept)
  • Queensland: 7,000 (as of 25 Aug)
  • Victoria – 2,150 (as of 25 Aug)
  • South Australia – 1,338 (as of 25 Aug)
  • ACT – 264 (as of 25 Aug)

How many of the guns received are actual firearms that will be destroyed? It is very difficult to say.  I may be able to dig up numbers in a few months. I have sources in Australia that I did not have before. I suspect the number will be closer to 30,000 than to 50,000.

The low end of unregistered firearms in Australia is estimated at 260,000. A common high end is estimated at 600,000.

Total Licit Firearms Imports into Australia by Firearms Type, 1996-2015

The guns turned in are dwarfed by the number of legal guns imported. The import numbers have risen to nearly 100,000 a year. Most of those are rifles and shotguns, but there are a significant number of handguns. The chart is from official Australian sources.

Most crime with guns is committed with illegal handguns or homemade submachine guns, virtually all of them illegally possessed. About one out of eight handguns confiscated in Australia has been illegally made at home or in a small shop in Australia.

The extremely restrictive Australian gun laws cost Australians more than 29 million dollars a year. The entire cost has been upwards of a billion dollars.  Little to nothing can be shown for this expense and loss of liberty.

Proponents of the extreme laws resort to statistical tricks, such as only looking at homicides or suicides with guns, instead of total suicide or homicide rates. The very crux of the debate is about the likelihood of substitute methods being used.

In the study of mass killings before and after, no one is considering the role of the Australian media, which is acknowledged as one of the prime motivators for the Port Arthur Massacre in 1996.

It is not surprising there has not been another Port Arthur in Australia. The Australian media has switched from virtual promotion of a mass killing with a semi-automatic gun, to explaining that it cannot happen in Australia any more.

There has been one mass killing with a firearm since Port Arthur, as acknowledged in this study by the Australian government.  Former P.M. Howard simply ignores it, and claims there have been none.

The Australian gun law fiasco seems to be one where activists found a virtually non-existent problem, created a crisis with media hype, passed burdensome laws, then attempt to justify them with statistical trickery.

We saw the same thing in the United States in the 1950's with switchblade knives.

Astute observers will remember numerous examples of other excesses of the regulatory state.

©2017 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.

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About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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    Silence Dogood
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    Silence Dogood

    Well…what would you expect of a country who’s constitution includes a monarchy?

    Currently, the sovereign’s Australian title is Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God Queen of Australia and Her other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth.

    Too bad the Aussie’s didn’t rebel like the American Colonies did. Oh well…long live the Queen!

    DBM
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    DBM

    Remember Hillary called for a Australian style buy-back. It was a popular theme among the left.

    JS
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    JS

    Its hard to have a discussion when one side ignores common sense. Shooting and killing people and committing other crimes with a firearm are already illegal. So registering and restricting private ownership is somehow supposed to stop illegal firearms? These people were legal to begin with. Let’s get rid of money so people will be prevented from stealing it. Silly, of course. But why does that same logic apply to firearms? Illegal high powered rifles are being smuggled into Australia because the bad guy is ok with not following the law and will pay for them. So how does confiscation… Read more »

    John G
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    John G

    Stupid, naive Auzzies deserve what they get.

    Ben
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    Ben

    I hope we (USA) are not next. Time for people to wake up. It’s not about hunting.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    there are some US COngresscritters making noise about how “wonderful” Austrailia is now there are no more guns. They are making rumblings about doing the same thing here.

    One look at the stats in Connecticut where they mandated
    black and ugly” gun registration, and maybe got a five percent compliance rate. Same thing would happen here I”m certain. Let’s see now, ninety five percent of 400 million is…. still a WHOLE lot of guns in private hands.

    Benjamin Magee
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    Benjamin Magee

    I figured as much. In America we don’t have the same lay down and take it attitude like a lot of other people do. Even 5% compliance is too much. A free and good human being doesn’t need laws. These morons need to focus on putting criminals away and not turning the rest of us into them.

    Ol vet
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    @Tionico…Let our congresscritters move there. With what they have been paid here they should be in the upper 1% there , no guns , sounds like just what they want.

    We have been painting our AR’s camo that should take them out of the black and ugly class, right?

    JohnBored
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    JohnBored

    Aulstralia is a country known for sheep