107,000 Repatriated Garands and Milsurp 1911s on CMP Racks

Inside the CMP on Shooting USA: Rebuilding M1 Garands
107,000 Repatriated Garands and Milsurp 1911s on CMP Racks

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) said it has received shipment of nearly 100,000 repatriated M1 Garand rifles to replenish nearly depleted stocks of U.S. military surplus rifles sold the past two decades to eligible American citizens. In addition, the Secretary of the Army recently released approximately 8,000 much-anticipated milsurp M1911/M1911A1 pistols to CMP.

“We’re excited to have the guns,” CMP Chief Operating Officer Mark Johnson said. “We’ve been working on getting them for several years, and it’s the first shipment of guns we’ve received in quite some time.”

Loaners come home

The repatriated M1 Garands―about 86,000 from the Philippines and 13,000 from Turkey―went on loan to those countries following WWII under the Military Assistance Program (MAP). Because the rifles technically belong to the U.S. Army, it was up to that organization, not CMP, to seek repatriation. Under the anti-civil rights Obama administration, repatriation was never on the table; during those years CMP worked quietly with the U.S. Army, preparing to eventually receive the repatriated rifles and milsurp pistols. Last week’s receipt of the firearms is the culmination of long effort while adopting a wait-and-see attitude by CMP.

Today, the semi-automatic Garands with a fixed capacity of eight rounds are obsolete for military purposes, and they now enjoy collector and “collector-shooter” status among American riflemen, especially for those who participate in CMP As-issued John C. Garand competitions. The U.S. Army, having no use for the repatriated rifles, has turned them over to CMP for subsequent sale to eligible individuals. The practice at CMP is to clean, carefully inspect, and test fire every salable firearm to ensure safe and proper operation. Then, a price is set based upon its overall condition, with a few select rifles garnering higher, collector-status prices.

“We’ve already begun on the Turkish rifles,” Johnson said. “They’re already filtering into the system and there are some on the racks for sale now.” Of note to collectors, he said the Turk and Filipino Garands are indistinguishable from any other M1 Garand. “We haven’t seen any kind of markings thus far, nothing to identify what country has had them,” he said.

Pistols, too

The milsurp M1911/M1911A1 pistols will also go to eligible citizens through CMP sales on a lottery basis. CMP posts eligibility requirements for pistol and rifle purchases on its website; those requirements include proof of U.S. citizenship, participation in marksmanship activities and membership in a CMP affiliated club, as well as passing an FBI NICS criminal background check. In the case of the M1911/M1911A1 pistols, buyers must pass two NICS checks, one at CMP and a second at the Federal Firearms License dealer where they pick up the shipped handgun.

Sales of milsurp arms was historically through the U.S. Army Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM) via the NRA. In 1996, Congress closed DCM and chartered the non-profit Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety (now called the CMP). At that time the Army transferred remaining stocks of surplus firearms and ammunition to CMP to sell for income in supporting itself. Late last year, Johnson said CMP expected to sell the last of those remaining milsurp M1 Garands by 2019; this eleventh-hour receipt of the Garands and M1911/M1911A1 pistols is a big financial shot in the arm for CMP.

More to come?

And while the present 107,000 milsurp rifles and pistols are good news for CMP, collectors and competitors, there is more on the horizon. South Korea has approximately 80,000 M1 Garands and about 600,000 M1 Carbines loaned to that country under MAP. South Korea aborted an attempt to sell those loaned firearms to U.S. importers a few years ago. CMP is hopeful that these will also eventually be repatriated and passed on to the American citizen.


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    ken josephs
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    ken josephs

    when will the 1911s be available In the Illinois area? also interested in AR15??
    also where will I go to get these weapons?

    Rick Middlebrooks
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    Rick Middlebrooks

    All* true* information regarding the CMP 1911 pistols is available here: http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/1911-information/

    The CMP doesn’t sell AR-15s. What they do sell, where to go to get them, and how to get them will be found here: http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/

    Hope this helps.
    Rick

    Rick M.
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    Rick M.

    CMP rifle sales to customers are limited to eight (8) per calendar year (see http://thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/ ). This limitation went into effect on 20 SEP 2016 and was retroactive to the beginning of 2016. (I still have the CMP Sales Update email announcing it.) In addition, for the most desirable variations, sales are limited to one (1) per customer per calendar year. One can verify this statement by scrolling down the webpage found at the link I listed at the beginning of this comment. Explore CMP’s website. READ, not scan, the Eligibility Requirements and the 1911 Information webpages so you’ll know… Read more »

    Stan
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    Stan

    The M1’s, .45’s and Carbines the CMP sells are U.S. Government property and must be brought back into this country if loaned to a foreign country thru U.S. procedures. Where the CMP screwed up in my opinion is/was not continuing with the limit of sales. When I placed my order way back when, I was permitted to buy ONE! Only one per person. Now individuals can purchase an unlimited (?) number each year and parts swap to basement build “original” parts rifles. These “complete” rifles bring a higher selling value than those mixed parts armory rebuilt guns. However, the armory… Read more »

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    Stan: Untrue. You may only purchase 7 per year and THAT only went into effect last year. There is no evidence, that I or anyone else that I know of has, that people are buying M1’s, disassembling them and making more out of the parts. That would be incredibly expensive and not worth the time and effort, despite what you allege. I challenge you to provide any proof to support your allegations.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Stan, The limit on sales is so that more people get a chance at having these historical pieces. Why do you want so many of Garands? Are you one of those guys that make a business of selling Garands at gun shows? Like to corner the market on them, and sell them at a premium price?

    Mikial
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    Mikial

    Hopefully CMP won’t be gouging people for the Garands like they are for the 1911s. Under the enlightened leadership of the CMP, the 1911s will only be available to elitist gun collectors with lots of money to spend. . . like the people who run the CMP. Glad I already have my Garand.

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    That’s an unfair and untrue comment all the way around.

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    As a further, your comment shows you to be totally ignorant as to who and what CMP really is. They are a non-profit organization:

    “CMP uses its sales revenue to fund safety and marksmanship programs across the nation each year. Thanks to our rifle purchasers, thousands of juniors and adults can take advantage of CMP training, clinics and matches. All revenue not needed to fund current operations is deposited into a permanent endowment to fund future programs and operations once all rifles have been sold.”

    I believe you owe them an apology.

    Karl
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    Karl

    They are using the money from sales to promote the CMP’s mission, which is to educate the American public on shooting. If you want a cheap blaster, go buy a Rock Island. It doesn’t function any differently than a government 1911, and is new to boot.

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    @Jim: Correct. I purchased my Garand a while back and refinished the stock myself (took a month and a half). These are pieces of history, if you’re looking for bargain guns go elsewhere. The 1911’s are out of my price range and of no interest to me but it appears that the Garands will be around the same price they were before the Obama “lockdown”.

    As a PS for those who don’t know, “Garand” is pronounced “Garund”. He was French and that’s how he pronounced his name.

    Chuck Johnson SGM USA Retired
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    Chuck Johnson SGM USA Retired

    I purchased a 1944 Garand from CMP about 8 years ago. It is just beautiful, and works like a dream. Was completely gone over by the CMP gunsmiths for safety and reliability prior to being offered for sale as all weapons are. Consistently gives shot groups in the 3.5 in range all bay from sandbags at the range and attracts a lot of attention. By the way I paid $650 for mine.

    Jim
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    Jim

    Hey folks. The CMP is a GREAT organization and one that we all should support, with both our comments and, where appropriate, our money. I’ve been to Anniston and they have some really outstanding people working for them, and they don’t get the recognition that they deserve. They don’t make the laws and they do have to follow whatever our elected representatives tell them to do. The cost of the 1911’s? Yes, sure you could go out and spend less than that on a new one. And I have. But I will also be throwing my name in the hat… Read more »

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    At some point CMP may or may not allocate part of the shipments to other outlets so others may have a chance at getting one, but maybe not. I’m sure there will be quite a long process of test firing, and grading these pistols, and m1s and more than likely will be cherry picked and the more of the wore out ones going to other outlets, and the better ones going to the elites, but there is so much demand for these things that some folks will be buying boat anchors just to have one that has a date on… Read more »

    Henry Wade
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    Henry Wade

    What is the price for a M1 carbine an M1 Grant and 1911 pistol

    Peter A. Maul
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    Peter A. Maul

    Please include me on the updates

    Mike P
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    Mike P

    The price for the 1911’s are outrageous between 800 and 1100 for the pistol. You can buy knock off 45’s for under a 1000. You don’t know if it will blow up in your face when you fire it. I fired one in the service that went full auto when I pulled the trigger, worn out sear. Now the M1’s they will demand a high price, I remember in the 60’s you could purchase a M1 for 20 dollars. That was in Woolworth’s and army navy stores. These weapons will be buyer beware.

    Pete
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    Pete

    A few weeks ago when I checked Garands were $630 or $730, depending on condition. M-1 Carbines were “auction only.”

    DD
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    DD

    They go through them very well prior to selling so safety should be good to go. I agree that the prices they will be asking for the 1911’s are ridiculous considering what you will be getting. I would tell anyone considering to buy 2 Glock’s for that price!

    Bruce
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    Bruce

    Much more interested in the M1 Carbines. Looking forward to them.

    Jim Wilson
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    Jim Wilson

    Any chance of ever seeing the M1 Carbines
    from Korea ?? I would love to own one of them.

    Truckbuddy
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    Truckbuddy

    It’s great that these guns are being brought back, but this whole thing has a tinge. Why is it that the CMP is the only group doing this? I’d like to see these available at gun shows. This looks like a monopoly for the privileged.

    Webfoot Logger
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    Webfoot Logger

    The CPM is the only group that CAN bring them back – they are US property on loan to the foreign nation.

    Any other firm bringing these back needs permission from the US Army, which would rather bring them back and get the money, or risk being charged with possession of stolen firearms.

    The Big Club
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    The Big Club

    no and no

    richard peters
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    richard peters

    Would like to buy one where can I go.

    Thomas H. Glenn
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    Thomas H. Glenn

    Is there a CMP training location in or near Las Vegasb NV to sign up so I mant purchase couple of the M-1 Grandes .

    About how much are they asking? For shooting purposes not a collector.

    Carmine Damato
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    Carmine Damato

    Will the M1’s be cheaper than a new entry level AR15?
    Will the 1911’s be cheaper than a new Glock 19 or another quality handgun

    Don McNamee
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    Don McNamee

    Not likely, but an entry level AR ISN’T a Garand. A U.S. Property marked 1911 ISN’T a Glock. Zero comparison.

    Anthony
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    Anthony

    No from what I was reading, it’ll all be priced “reasonable” but around 1000 and up for the 1911s , they want us (the civilians) that receive the weapons to obtain them for history and preservation purposes, but I mean who’s not taking the bad boy to the range at least 1 time

    HMLA-167 Warrior
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    HMLA-167 Warrior

    No and no. But then again, you aren’t buying a piece of WWII history with an entry level AR, a Glock 19, or any other quality handgun.

    Donald demarcus
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    Donald demarcus

    Info on m1 rifles please

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    Go to the CMP site