New Mexico Turns to People to Overturn Anti-Second Amendment Law

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U.S.A. -(Ammoland.com)- New Mexico Second Amendment supporters are doing more than passing Second Amendment sanctuary resolutions. The New Mexico Republicans are leading a movement to repeal the offending law using the power of the people.

New Mexico has a provision in its Constitution, rather similar to that in Switzerland. If the legislature passes a law offensive to the people, they can demand a referendum be held. If the law is not approved of in the referendum, the law is annulled. The Republican party in the New Mexico House released this notice: From nmhousegop.com:

Santa Fe – House Republicans joined New Mexico’s Sheriffs to begin the process of overturning radical anti-2nd Amendment laws on Thursday. Joining thousands of New Mexicans who rallied against anti-2nd Amendment bills across the state, House Republicans announced they will begin the formal process to annul Senate Bill 8.

Under the New Mexico Constitution, the people have the power to “disapprove, suspend and annul” laws enacted by the Legislature. The process begins with a petition of New Mexico voters and requires several different actions depending on the number of signatures. The number of required signatures is based on the voters who cast a ballot in the 2018 General Election and actions to be taken include:

1. If 10% of voters sign a petition, the law is placed on the ballot for approval or rejection of all voters. 

2. If 25% of the voters sign the petition within 90 days after adjournment of the session, the law is immediately suspended and it is placed on the ballot for approval or rejection of all voters.

“The response to this bill and others like it all around New Mexico is unprecedented, and we need to listen to the people,” said House Republican Leader Rep. Jim Townsend (R-Artesia). “What is happening in Santa Fe does not reflect what an overwhelming number of New Mexicans want, so we’re going to make sure they are heard.”

“New Mexicans in 25 counties have made it clear that they do not support restrictions on their 2nd Amendment rights,” said House Republican Whip Rod Montoya (R-Farmington). “Clearly Santa Fe is out of touch …This is not my New Mexico.”

Rep. Townsend sent a letter to the Secretary of State requesting the petitions for Senate Bill 8. The petitions will then be circulated across New Mexico for signatures.

A similar situation occurred in Colorado, where elected officials were recalled after voting for an anti-Second Amendment  bill. Referendum such as in New Mexico are considerably more effective as they target the offending legislation directly.

This sort of referendum is specific. It has an excellent chance of passage. It has been used in Switzerland for over a hundred years to limit and prevent the overreach of governmental power.

25% of voters from the last election would have to be collected within 90 days after the adjournment of the legislature, to suspend the bill until the next election. The legislature is expected to adjourn on March 16, 2019.  The deadline would be about June 14th.

10% of the voters from the last election would have to be collected by four months before the next general election, which would be in November of 2020. That would give the collectors about a year and three months to collect the signatures.

According to Ballotopedia, 175,412 signatures would be necessary for 25% of the previous election; 70,165 for 10% of the voters.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Close Encounters of Turd Kind

I almost stepped in some doggy pooh
Would’ve covered the sole of my shoe
Why can’t folk use a scoop
to pick up their dog’s poop
To share from The Green Watch Dog-Happy Saint Patricks Day!

The Revelator

Close encounters.

If I didn’t know any better,
I’d think that you’re a Yooper.
Cause the way you talk about that Irish setter,
You’re darn right he’s a big ol’ pooper!

I think you have summed up accurately the excrement that Watch Dog has been leaving here on ammoland.

The Revelator

For those curious, Green Watch Dog is also posting this on the Oregon Teaching Article,

Yeah, Funny, poor guy just cant seem to realize when some people put things up to intentionally force him to respond. 🙂

Walter Goddard

I’m going over to have a look lol

You guys be sure and remove his ‘little’ land mines.. I hate step-in in it! ewe…

Just Dean

Where can we sign this petition, Mr.Weingarten???

Floyd Collins

You can not ever take away my right to bare arms!

Bob Schoeler

Long sleeve shirts are not yet mandatory.

Bob

Long sleeve shirts are not yet mandatory..

Ken J. Bower

If you lived in Maryland, you’d be very lucky to even have a Gun! I’m thinking of moving to New Mexico if the laws are changed!

Gregory Romeu

Another one… What makes you think you are any better than the illegals that are running away from their countries to the United States to escape tyranny than you running from your state where you too should STAND AND FIGHT?

The Revelator

Ok, everyone, looks like ochwill is back out of hiding again, pushing the same lies he has been trying to since the first week of January. See, this is the forth time information has been presented against his argument, and the second or third time out of those four that Green Watch Dog has been unable to contain himself by jumping up to support ochwill and show how much of a Liar GWD is as well. More on that at the end. See, ochwill got hold of a new York times article in January, it was written in December of… Read more »

D.white

You have to be Kidding me , that doesn’t hold water!
Where did you get that data.
There is Less Gun crime in states that have constitutional
Carry than states that has supposed restrictions on Guns!.
Like California.
These mass Killers Always pick Gun Free zones to
Target!
Think About it!

Art Weaver

The left has spent years purposely moving it’s voters into the capitals of states that are red. It’s no accident that NM once a bastion of freedom and the Second Amendment has been usurped by COMMIEFORNIA Interlopers.
The people of every patriotic state and every blue state must stand up and defend their freedoms before we all lose them!!!

ochwill

Yawn.Gun safety laws work. Gun safety does not mean banning all guns. States with tough gun safety laws have lower gun violence rates. 40,000 Americans died of gunshot wounds in 2017. Almost none of those deaths were on US military bases. Why? Weapons are stored under lock and key and armed guard on military bases. Ammo is stored separately from firearms on US military bases. Oliver North, the president of the NRA is a convicted gun trafficker. DO THE MATH. The NRA is a guns sales organization which sells weapons through fear, misinformation, and appeals to violence. Currently US firearms… Read more »

Jake

Actually, gun control has NEVER stopped a mass shooting, nor gun murder.! All they do, is disarm the law abiding “who are neither likely, nor inclined to break the law” Thomas Jefferson (describing gun control in federalist papers)

VW

Ochwill: Yawn…Gun laws are a joke!
California has some tight gun laws, yet these have done nothing, but eliminate the innocent from feeling safe & being prepared and ready.
The 2nd Amendment is very clear in it’s founding & foundation. “Right to keep & bare arms,” period!

MW

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Thomas Honey

Tell that to the people who have lost loved ones in Detroit, Chicago, New Orleans, and the entire state of California and New York. All of these listed above have the strictest gun laws in the country. And in Chicago alone there was 4273 killed in homicide shootings in 2018. So, please tell me again how gun control is working. Oh the NRA does NOT sell guns. You mentioned General Oliver North, what about that thing that Obama did and Eric Holder, what was that, oh yeah “fast and furious ” that went well didn’t it. I’m just saying.

The Revelator

Honey

The Oliver North thing is a lie ochwill is famous for.

In spite of those convictions being thrown out by the courts because they were political attack jobs, he still screams “There was a Conviction” even though everytime he has the lie has been exposed.

ochwill is a lying whore bag who’s job here is to convince anyone he can that they don’t plan on confiscation, so when they confiscate you are nice and sleepy.

Openyourmind

Your telling me Baltimore the highest gun fatalities in the nation pre person has no gun laws. It has some of the strongest gun laws in the nation. Do your homework sir your opinion isn’t fact. Look more people die of drunk driving each year so we should out law cars there not even in the constitution . Cuase out lawing alcohol didnt work.

Lord-Pi-314

Medical mistakes by doctors and nurses cause 250,000 deaths per year. Perhaps the Commie gungrabbers would like to outlaw the medical profession, also ? What do they propose, a perfect world where streets and sidewalks are made out of marshmallows ?

Thomas Honey

Ochwill Tell that to the people who have lost loved ones who died of gunshot wounds in Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, and the entire state of California that gun control works. In Chicago alone, in 2018, 4273 people were killed by guns, but gun control works, ookay. Here in Arizona in 2016 only 227 people were killed in the entire state that year and yet we carry out in the open our guns. So please help me with this one you said that the states that have strict gun control laws have lesser gun violence than the ones that have… Read more »

JoeUSooner

What the hell?? Where did you get those “facts and figures”?? Not a single one of them is within the same postal zipcode as “correct.” What color is the sky in your world?

D.white

You have to be Kidding me , that doesn’t hold water!
Where did you get that data.
There is Less Gun crime in states that have constitutional
Carry than states that has supposed restrictions on Guns!.
Like California.
These mass Killers Always pick Gun Free zones to
Target!
Think About it!

Patrick Thompson

You want to know the real reason why gun deaths are rare in military bases is because everyone is educated about gun safety if you knew how many civilian owned firearms there are on those bases you would be surprised plus everyone is held to a higher standard it’s not the laws that keep that from happening it is the people that are on those bases that do

Angelo Montour

Ask the people where tyrants were allowed to strip there rights , then enslave them if it’s a Yawn! Our for fathers knew that history will repeat,and people will forget.

Carl Ferrigno

The NRA doesn’t sell guns.IF YOU WANT COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM GET THE THE HELL OUT OF THE USA NO DECENT HUMAN BEING NEEDS YOU AND YOUR SEWER RATS…this country was built and will continue on GOD — GUNS — AND GUTS WITHOUT YOUR COMMIE MORONS.

m.

don’t care what an anti-2A d-sucker has to say about anything

Gene Ralno

You’ve been hoodwinked by Bloomberg’s rhetoric and haven’t read his 2018 data. It reveals gun homicides declined seven percent, firearm injuries declined 10 percent, fatal child shootings (under 18) declined 12 percent and unintentional shootings plummeted 21 percent. Firearms ownership reached an historic high in 2018 and new licensees are skyrocketing. More to the point, Vermont (#1) and New Hampshire (#2) boast the lowest crime rates in the nation and their laws are “unrestricted” and constitutional carry, respectively. Considering just murder rates, Maryland has one of the toughest laws and is 4th highest in the nation. I could go on… Read more »

Jake Bamert

Big THANK YOU to all who support us here in New Mexico. We will keep fighting against our criminal government, I promise! Don’t give up in your States. Together we can do amazing things! Again, thank you all. To all who stand with our governor, well y’all can kiss our red, white and blue rear ends!!!

William Kays

What part of will not be infringed upon do they not understand!!!!!!

och will

What part of 40,000 dead americans in 2017 alone are you not following jethro?

The Green Watch Dog

och will,
If the number of deaths caused by gun shots in the United States in one year was 23,394,999; many ultra right gun activist would argue with you. Its just the way they are.

The Revelator

@Green Watch Dog Oh look, the lying whores are back. ochwill citing 40k deaths and GWD making up false statements about Second Amendment Supporters what ochwill wont tell you is 26k out of 40k are suicides. He also wont tell you that the remaining number lumps in accidents, police involved shootings, and self defense cases. He just says 40 thousand because he wants you to believe it is 40 thousand murders, four times higher than it actually is. GWD’s lie builds off of that. With anywhere from 500 Thousand to 2.5 million or more self defense uses each year its… Read more »

Sheldon

A vast majority were suicide remove them and the U.S. is pretty safe

Yvonne Murray

Our Second Amendment is ours- you have no right to take it away! #PATRIOTSUNITED

Marcus Rogers

We need these petition signatures from every county, as they are not just an aggregate from large population areas. When you get a call(over the next few months, you will be contacted)be aware we are not just a partisan group. This is a non-partisan issue. We are bringing together people from across New Mexico to protect those who wish to legally bear arms. If we knock at the front door, same facts apply.

Ms. C. A. Carroll

Marcus,
Where do we sign to protect our rights?

Jaime Smith

Gun control=common sense.
You second amendment idiots support legislation that regulates a woman’s uterus, but not an implement of death.
You are all bass ackwards.

William Shumate

Common sense is not shooting up a school or theater. And abortion is murder. The bitch made her choice when she spread her legs. Unless they are too stupid to know how babies are made.

Walter Goddard

So, @ JS.. ..by your statement, I assume that you’re ok with someone telling you that you can, or cannot, have sex with your wife? Would it be ok for Gov. to control you having sex, if you only shot blanks? or had same sex? .. or that it’s ok to murder the new-born/unborn child you created; because it’s an inconvenience to your life? Is it NOT ok with you, if someone has a gun, that can be used to shoot a target, a legal animal, a person/animal in self defense, or use against tyranny? I think the 2A refers… Read more »

William

Well said Walter!

Walter Goddard

Thanks W 🙂

The Revelator

@Walter Goddard

Your arguments have definitely become stronger my friend.

Excellent use of facts while asking questions to pull in the emotionals with ideas and stories that they understand, and exposing the op’s hypocrisy at the same time. Bravo

Walter Goddard

Thanks Rev… 🙂

I am learning.. I appreciate your helps too!

Jake

Keep crying snowflake ❄️. We The People are going to win!!!!
Trump 2020

Berzrkr50

‘Implement of death’? Drama queen much? Lol!

Jaime Smith

So what is the legislation that is so offensive?
I see that the author did not name it or give specifics.
That makes this piece propaganda, not news, and it makes the author a gaslighter, not a journalist.

Kimmy B

It’s not really about guns, it’s about our freedoms being taken away. The red flag law is offensive. All it takes is a statement from ANYONE, the cops can bust into YOUR home, whether you have guns or not, and start searching your property without a warrant. They can confiscate your private property without due process. In Kentucky, a daughter got mad at her father and called the cops. Told them that he was armed & a threat to himself & others. The cops busted into his home at 3 am. He did not know who was breaking into his… Read more »

Fran Yesh

Every state needs a law for fighting back ignorance. Go get um NM. BUILD THE WALL.

tomcat

It would be great if NM could override this and win their rights back. While you at it send the new governor packing back to commiefornia. No one needs her type in a free state.

Walter Goddard

.. ditto TC

Tommy

Scot, Bryan, Teeroy, Marshall, I have a question. On what floor of the Bloomberg Tower Building are your cubicles located. Does Mike the Kike give you special perks for nafta members?

By the way Joseph Montoya, “This ain’t mexico”. You don’t like it, Go back across the border.
Oh yeah, My people were here long before any of you immigrants. Look at what has happened to us when the “government” took our arms! And Marshall, no one in my family use drugs or alcohol! But you better bet your A$$ we are armed and will remain so.

joefoam

Good luck to all NM residents. Get rid of the idiots in the capitol, annul all the BS laws and return to living your lives in the freedom dreamed of by our founding fathers. Hopefully it will send a message to those who seek to restrict our freedoms that so many have fought and died for.

m.

2 everyone here: there are all shades of patriots, there are still patriots in every state. but gun “control” = a**hole no matter who you are, and…a lot of things can happen to dog-s**t…

The Revelator

Nice of you to mention Green Watch Dog by name there

Bino

Way to go new mexico!!! Now on to the wall.

CoosaTotahK9

Dean, a well written article and notice to the people of New Mexico on a way to peacefully throw off the tyranny of our present government. The law, any law that affects law abiding citizens under Article II Section 6, violates STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION – Article II, Section 6, “NO LAW shall abridge the right of the citizen…”. NO LAW! PERIOD! Many laws on our individual fundamental Rights say “shall not be violated”. The Second Amendment states “shall not be infringed” So what is the difference? To violate a Right you must actually deny or oppress the basic action of… Read more »

Chuan T Wong

Voters need to educate themselves before going to the poll, do not watch any campaign commercial, just researcher, candidates voting history, be a informed voter.

dave s

leave the second amendment alone as written . all the laws in the world will not stop bad people from doing bad things . responsible gun owners are just that -responsible .

Arthur Harp Jr.

Where do i sign?

Bob Snipes

Sign me up! Where do I sign?

David

Scott you are a pussy

Bob Koceja

Shame on every gun owner who votes Democrat!

The Revelator

Koceja

Not Democrat, on any gun control supporter. Including Graham, or Rubio.

Shame on anyone who votes for someone only because of a Letter, and thus puts a gun control advocate into office.

Bob Koceja

Shame on every Gun owner who votes Democrat

SouthernMaine

Congratulations NM. Good for you. Show the rest of us what we can do.

JOHN

So our leaders can lead. Get rid of Guns for bodyguards. Let them carry bow and arrows and swords

ANTHONY G MILLER

Bryan, go fuck yourself. You will be one of the first mororns eliminated in the coming Purge. Your ignorance is astounding.

JPM

Sadly, the ballot box in New Mexico is as crooked as a dogs hind leg. How do you think all those liberal idiots (crooks) got elected in the first place? I lived in New Mexico for over 20 years and it’s not unlike living in the 3rd World when it comes to elections; bribes, lost ballots, dead people voting, etc. is common place. Chicago has nothing over New Mexico when it comes to political corruption. If anyone thinks that overturning a law can be accomplished by voting in New Mexico, they are sadly just fooling themselves. I hope and pray… Read more »

Ikari

If a repeal vote doesn’t work, bullets always will.

Jaime Smith

Save taxpayers the cost of a trial and use the first one on yourself.
I don’t worry about people like you because if it’s too hard to move out of your mom’s basement and wear pants every day, I don’t think you can be bothered to do anything else.
Especially not open a book.

Wayne Brazelton

First if u have to wait on the placenta come to your house or or whatever when you need them we’re Talkin At least 6 minutes I guess you’re dead by then. The Second Amendment to the Constitution is to protect you from not only people that wish to do you harm but also from a tyrannical government in case one day our government decides they want to do us harm. Also once you open the door for them to take away the Second Amendment who’s to say they will try to take it all away how about your freedom… Read more »

willy d

Bryan/ Scott: Both move back to California where you came from with your mental delusions, this law to be is to do a total back ground check on ALL SALES any gun transfer between relatives ANY and ALL, also it limits a sale of ammunition to 2 boxes along with a back ground check each time!!! I have a friend that lives in NM and has been keeping up on what is happening there,and he has said that the idiots that are moving there from California are the major problem as they are not leaving their Calif mind set behind… Read more »

Elias

The nickname for the bill “Dildos for Guns” is well deserved.

Big Jim

Obviously from the filthy fingers of Bloomberg & Soros.

Robert J. Lucas

Time to outlaw the socialist/communists in all 50 States…

Ronald Reagan

It will be difficult to find something to overturn, since NM has not passed any “anti-2nd amendment laws”.

Shotgun Willie

When do we stand up for our rights that are being trampled? What will the catalyst be that starts this war? I am ready and willing to defend my beliefs- American beliefs. If they make laws in which are unconstitutional when do we start rioting. The political correctness in this country is going to destroy it!!! It is time to start trotting the offenders out of the capital on the back of a patty wagon- Traitors all!!!! PATRIOTS will you answer the call? This is still our country let’s take it fucking back!!!

Bryan

Requiring a simple background check on gun purchases is not taking away anyones rights, you pepole are ignorant, sad and insecure men, just like idiot Potus. Y’all are the Un Americans, cause you dont seem to care about any safety measures for innocent kids in schools or anyone in public.

Don

Stupid ass comment! There are enough laws to keep guns out of the wrong hands now. The sorry ass government won’t inforce them them or care to.

Jaime Smith

Then why are there more people killed by guns every two years in this country than died from combat in the entire twenty year Vietnam war?
Keep blaming everyone else, but the bottom line is that gun control saves lives.

The Revelator

With a possible 2.5 million lives every year saved by guns through self defense, would you like to cite your numbers? Of course, I know you wont. You’re a whore whos here to push one thing and one thing only. Gun Control. And what is hilarious, you’re not good at it at all. Your lies are easily recognized, and calling you out… Well like I said, you cant engage in a factual debate because first of all you’re an idiot, and second the numbers aren’t on your side. Instead you hope that alluding to a vague claim with a catchy… Read more »

Walter Goddard

How many lives were saved in Venezuela, (LE, Mil.), or New Zealand, by either restrictive, (only VIP, LE, and Mil.), or controlling gun laws?

Dennis Coates

Keep running your mouth pig. The laws are already on the books. Enforce the dam laws we have new laws are only trying to take away our rights. Those that try to do this should be EXECUTED PERIOD

Jaime Smith

Why did you call that guy a pig?
Is it possibly because you are an ignorant prick who hides behind your computer?
It’s easy to say shit online. Why don’t you stop trying to act tough and do something tough, like some research.
You would find out that we don’t execute people for having opinions in this country, that the body count goes down in every other country where assault weapons are banned, and that ‘damn’ is the swear word. ‘Dam’ is something a beaver builds.
Have a nice day, Jerkface.

Jake

Oh kinda like the gun violence went down in Chicago? A gun free zone, you mean like that?

The Revelator

Jaime, Sweetheart… Pumpkin….. please, let me quote you yourself. “Is it possibly because you are an ignorant prick who hides behind your computer? It’s easy to say shit online. Why don’t you stop trying to act tough and do something tough, like some research.” You’re a hypocrite. You are doing the very thing you accuse others of, and as I have already called you out on, you need to do some more research because you are pushing junk ideas at the least, and outright lies most of the time. If you truly believe in gun control, move to France, or… Read more »

Mike11C

Hey Idiot Bryan, I will not be lectured on “the safety of innocent children” by ANY demonrat. You want to do away with the Second Amendment “for the children” but you call us Nazis for wanting to stop late term and partial birth abortions. The biggest problem is, you’re too stupid to see how messed up that is.

Eric

1) Simple background checks are already required by federal law for every firearm purchased from a dealer.

2) Even extensive backround checks, like they have in New Zealand, and France, do not stop evil criminals from being evil criminals.

Not obeying laws is kind of the definition of a criminal. Placing more and more restrictions on the exclercise of a fundamental human right, is what’s “un American”. Especially when said restrictions do not have any of the benefits they are purported to have.

Barton Davis

You have no idea what you are talking about. This law makes it a crime for me to sell a gun to my next door neighbor without a background check. It is totally unenforceable and no criminal will follow the law. It has zero chance of making anyone safer. That is why it is being promulgated. The tyrants in New Mexico will then try to enact more gun laws since that one didn’t work. Take your blinders off and resist tyranny. You are the one who is unpatriotic not Trump supporters.

Wes

Yes it does. For two hundred years anyone walking free in the US had the freedom to protect themselves even after a conviction where their debt was paid. Today those people are a lower class as well as those in the growing list of ‘can nots’ like domestic violence, misdomeanors, accused of domestic violence, assumed to be a little mentally off etc. Many with no due process whatsoever. Background checks have also created a registry of every gun sold and who to.

LibertyToad

Nonsense. You don’t know much about history or the stats for defensive gun uses in the United State. Educate yourself and do some critical thinking

Tina menard

Funny,, history shows freedom came by guns and the will to die for that freedom.! Hence,,that’s why you are able to be so insulting to our military., who died for your rights.Funny how you have no problem with guards standing at banks armed protecting your money,,they should also be armed at schools protecting our children.. you are nieve to even think your America will be safe without weapons. This has been proven In UK, VENEZUELA, AUSTRALIA and any other country where weapons were taken from the people by the government. It is the blind without foresight who will scream for… Read more »

The Revelator

@Tina Menard

GOD BLESS WOMEN LIKE YOU NO MATTER THE AGE!

🙂 My Grandmother was a farmgirl who grew up in the great depression, married a Korean War vet after caring for him when recovering for his wounds, and joined the police department right along side of him. She would be one of the ones clinging to a shotgun without backing up if she were still with us today..

God Bless 🙂

Dave in Fairfax

Don’t y’all us you NM Yankee. If you hadn’t failed civics or actually studied any history you’d know that the BoR has nothing to do with safety measures for innocent kids in schools or anyone in public. It has to do with government overreach. All you can do is parrot the left-wing screeching point, for the children. Simple Background checks ARE unconstitutional despite what the old women in black robes say. They have NO positive impact on safety and only serve to steal rights from the lawful. Get your troll $$ back under your bridge.

Paula

So whats the deal then? What ARE you hiding?

Dave in Fairfax

You don’t have the need to know.

Paula

Talk about getting your arse back under the rock….stay in fairfax, Dave…the diverse ethnic climate here could be bad for your white arse…

Vanns40

Paula: Hmm, “diverse ethnic climate”? Are you saying more criminal than other States? Suppose they wanted to do a background check on you before you could buy/sell your car? Or before you could buy a knife? Exactly where do YOU, as a law-abiding citizen, say “hey, I haven’t done anything wrong and you’ve got no damn business rooting around in my life? When do you tell government ENOUGH? Or is it that you simply don’t care? That you’re one of the ones who will gladly give up the Rights that hundreds of thousands have died to protect because you’re such… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax

I’ll say it again since you keep repeating yourself. Paula you have little to say other than attack people. You certainly haven’t shown any understanding of the Constitution or history. I get along fine with all my neighbors, and it is HIGHLY diverse where I live now. They rely on me to deal with the police for them, and I stop and hold criminal routinely while I wait for the police arrive. I’ve lived all over the world and forgotten more languages than you ever learned. Down in your area isn’t bad for my health, and you’ve never seen my… Read more »

SouthernMaine

Congratulations NM. Good for you. Show the rest of us what we can do.

Ernst

How did you identify he was a Yankee? You say gun background is unconstitutional? How so?

Dave in Fairfax

I’ll assume that you can read. The rest is easy. Any infringement is unconstitutional.

The Revelator

@Ernst I’ll condense this and make it as easy as possible for you. The Constitution has a Supremacy clause which states that all levels of government are bound to follow and abide by the restrictions set in the constitution. Of these restrictions, two are important here. 1. Just because something was not stated as off limits from Government interference, it is still off limits because it belongs to individual people. 9th Amendment 2. When it comes to the right to procure, to possess, and to make use of Arms(weapons) for the purpose of sustaining life and sustaining liberty, the level… Read more »

Anti-Dave in Fairfax

Sounds like this guy, Dave, has something to hide. I’m guessing he can’t pass a background check. Let’s hear everybody’s guesses as to why!

Dave in Fairfax

I’ve passed more background checks and NICS checks than you can imagine. I have lots to hide, but none of it is illegal. Try using your own name.

Heed the Call-up

Anti-Dave, passing a background check only means that you have not been convicted of a felony. It does not mean that you aren’t a criminal and will not do harm in the future, ala the killer in New Zealand recently, the night club killer in Florida, etc. However, doing yet another background check on me is just a waste of time and taxpayer money, and will do nothing to make me, you or the rest of society safer. I have probably had more background checks than most criminals do to my various employment, state and federal, purchase of firearms, CC… Read more »

MagicDave (in the Catskills)

Hear! Hear! Dave!

MagicDave

I’m not too keen on the “NM Yankee” descriptive. But certsinly have to give you a Hear! Hear! Dave! from up here in the northernmost Catskill Mountains in the Land of Comrade Cuomo and the New York State (UN)SAFE Act.

Dave in Fairfax

I have lots of in-laws in NY, Dems unfortunately. The Catskills are great, MOST of NY is pretty good, it’s NYC, Albany, Rochester and the large cities that are the major issues. He’s from NM, and his use of y’all as a pejorative is why I threw the “Yankee” in. It’s not quite the same as Northerner. He’s a troll, and he got my “Irish” up. I’ll borrow some from my wife for that, BTW.

Bob Koceja

Your insignificant little opinion is noted. Go away and come back when you grow up and learn the facts.

Shame on every gun owner who votes Democrat

ANTHONY G MILLER

Bryan, go fuck yourself. You will be one of the first mororns eliminated in the coming Purge. Your ignorance is astounding.

Bob Koceja

Your insignificant little opinion is noted. Go away and come back when you grow up and learn the facts.

Shame on every gun owner who votes Democrat

American Patriot

Bryan, if you actually cared about saving kids, your focus wouldn’t be on firearms when it comes to danger to children. Your focus should be instead on forced swim lessons for children and criminal penalties for parents who negligently allow their children to drown.

Over 3000 kids die each year due to drowning.
https://www.cdc.gov/homeandrecreationalsafety/water-safety/waterinjuries-factsheet.html

While roughly a 10% of that figure die due to caused related to firearms.
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/children-and-guns/

Is there a “Right to swim” in the Constitution? No. Stop focusing on the smaller problem under the guise of the “children.”

bob Koceja

Your insignificant little opinion is noted. Go away and come back when you grow up and have learned the facts.

Shame on every Gun Owner who votes Democrat.

Pat

You’re right, Bryan. This regulation is perfectly CONSTITUTIONAL and these dim and bloodthirsty fools are in for a real surprise when their efforts end in defeat.

Greg K

“Background Checks” are “Unconstitutional” and Infringe on “People’s Rights” because they are created to sort out the Statutorily designated “Prohibited Person.”

The Second Amendment does not have a qualifier associated with “the People.” It does not say, “Who how, why or when the “Right may be Infringed.” Thus, someone is being “Infringed” upon, and that means “People’s Rights Are being Violated.”

Jdub71

I want a background check and a 1 week waiting period before you are allowed to post comments on anything.

Geary Mcdevitt

Maybe you should have a background check to post replies, you know to exercise your First Amendment rights.

Gdubb

Probably the stupidest argument I’ve ever heard, right on par with the bronx nitwit’s line of delusions. Y’all are trying to remove our rights and freedoms as American citizens, and we are working to preserve them. Who is unAmerican? And, we already have background checks to purchase firearms you idiot. If you weren’t such a libtarded brainless sheep you would know that. Fu#& you up your ignorant a$$ you pathetic communist POS.

GNewman

UMMMM that is what the BAtFE check is for , you know the one you dumbass liberals pushed through during Clownton administration.

Gregory Shouck

There has NEVER BEEN a gun kill anyone or anything. As far as back ground checks look up the word INFRINGE than you will understand WHO it is that is breaking the CONSTITUTION.

Ken Murphy

You are a late term loon who needs to take another time and head to McDonald’s for your munchie attack.

Tionico

The backgorund check begins with the premise that the potential gun owner is a prohibited person, and thus must prove he is not. Whatever happend to “innocent until proven guilty”? There are laws prohiting the transfer of arms to “prohibited persons”. If I know I am nont prohibited WHY do I need to pay the fee (as a precondition to exercising my right to vote, er, I mean, own a gun) and endure the wasted time to prove what I already know, and in most cases the one with the gun I want to own knows as well? If I… Read more »

m.

no one gives a s**t about anything an anti-2A d-sucker has to say

Vanns40

Well now, little Bryan’s decided to try and play with the adults. Okay Bryan, here’s your shot at it. Why is owning a firearm the only inanimate object where folks like you want all law abiding citizens to prove they haven’t committed a crime before they can purchase that object? Why not knives, baseball bats, hammers etc.? Further, why is that you and your ilk are perfectly willing to suspend “innocent until proven guilty”, for the purchase and ownership of firearms, when bladed weapons are used to kill four times as many people as rifles? Sorry Bryan, but I believe… Read more »

Roger Baker

Background cks already exist. I think you are the ignorant one. You want the govt to have more control when they are the ones screwing the pooch on many of these mass shootings

Scott

As countless children and innocent citizens are sensely murdered by your hobby guns yet none of you seem to give a rats ass about anyone but your tiny dicked selves. You all act so tough, then why arm yourself? Id love to see some of you wimps ( just like Trump) step into a ring or fight circle w a real man who doesnt need to arm his pussy self.

Don

Do you have a ring? Ill step in with you and still going to carry my gun around afterwards. It’s always there just incase some over idiot who doesn’t care about laws pulls one. Dumb dumb !

Greg Kukanich

Nice reply-having to call people names fully gets your idea across-seems that you have gotten lost-you are on a site that usually is pro second amendment not anti

Mike11C

Hey Pussy Scott, I will not be lectured on “the safety of innocent children” by ANY demonrat. You want to do away with the Second Amendment “for the children” but you call us Nazis for wanting to stop late term and partial birth abortions. The biggest problem is, you’re too stupid to see how messed up that is. And by the way, my “hobby guns” haven’t killed anyone.

Chris

Keyboard tough guy like the rest of the libtards

Eric

Care to elaborate on how well you expect to fare against one or more armed violent criminals, Mr. Tough Guy? What about a woman who is in danger of being assaulted by one ore more physically stronger men? Try not to be an idiot.

Ikari

When are Dems goin to do something about the nigger problem? You know… The apelike race doing the majority of the killings you treasonous antigoy Jews spill your crocodile tears for? If that’s right… They vote for gibs every election, making them too valuable for Democrats to risk offending.

Dave in Fairfax

Wow, the trolls are out in force today.
Legal gun owners don’t commit crimes and illegal ones don’t care about your unconstitutional laws. As for the rest, Project much, sock puppet?

Paula

Yes, we see that you’re out….crawl back under

79 year old pat

1U Scott are the stupid one !!!!!!!! I am. 79yo and if love get you out b I’m 79 and love to get U behind the barn to teach U not to open your. Mouth before u put your. BRaIn in. Gear if u have a. Brain

SouthernMaine

I was nearly murdered by gang violence in my own home. I’ll keep my guns.

Pat

Exactly Scott. Any “man” who needs to arm himself to feel masculine is not any kind of real man….

tomcat

Pat
Yes, we know your type. You are the man ____ that believes in abortions, killing born babies and selling their body parts. Ya Pat and Scott you both are probably lucky you survived an abortion.

Andy

How about the millions of people that die from drug overdose hourly in the America. I’ll need my guns to protect my kids from the people flooding the open border’s looking to take advantage of our honor system policies that no honors.

Jim L

I’d gladly kick your teeth down your aids infested throat for fun, but that won’t change how I feel about my Constitutional rights, loser.

Stephen

If you can’t see it’s not guns that kill people it’s people that kill people you think taking guns from law biting citezens is going to stop killing people who are making these laws are doing the killing and you will see when there sending your ass to a concentration camp I’d like to see how tuff you talk then

Gdubb

You are a brainless and pathetic sheep. Don’t worry, we’ll still watch your 6, if we have time, while defending our Constitutional Republic against communists like you.

Jack Greenlee

Oh for the children you say? What about the protection, of the million plus children, you leftist parakeets put to death every year, in murder factories like Planned Parenthood? I guess it’s ok, to just ignore little things like that, while your ranting on about taking away my rights, to protect and defend my family, and property huh? And that’s a huge part, of why we ignore your pleas of “it’s to protect the children”, because we know your not sincere, and don’t really give a damn about the children, except as a promotional prop for your agenda. We hear… Read more »

GNewman

You name the time & place & I will step into the ring with your keyboard commando ass.

Gene

Typical Democrat that not only expects us to feed, clothe and coddle him like a child, he wants us men who carry to take our firearms off and fight anybody and everybody EXCEPT for his candy ass! I don’t fight with my gun and law abiding gun owners don’t either. So if you are calling us out I’m your huckleberry! I’ll leave my gun at home.Any time you wanna throw down since you think your a man.

Dave in Fairfax

Gene, He won’t show.
Just for the ones who’ve only heard the Huckleberry thing in the movies, that’s another Yankee mistake. Used to be, I’ll be your hackle bearer, but they didn’t understand how things are said south of the Mason-Dixon, so they retold it wrong when they got home. hackles are the handholds on your coffin.

Tionico

my “hobby guns’ have never, nor will they ever, kill anyone unless they first present an immediate and clear threat to the life of myself or those around me. One thing to note: some 98% of all “mass public shootings” occur in places where I, the law abiding harmless gun owner, is prohibited to have my gun for my, or anyone else’s. protection. And the cops have this funny habit of showing up just in time to take pictures, write down some names of some who survived, draw chalk outlines of the bodies,, put little yellow signs where all the… Read more »

Jaron

How ignorant can you get? Are you spoon fed by CNN? A REAL man knows when to use his weapon. You do realize that before the police existed, every citizen was expected to bare arms and protect their fellow citizens. Judging by your speech, I dare say the facts about guns and Democrats would fall on deaf ears. When the end comes, your “strong back and fighting skills” wont save your life.

Heed the Call-up

Scott, would you want your wife to “step into the ring and fight a real man”? I would suspect you would want to have your wife to be able to adequately defend herself against predators. But I guess you don’t care about women. How able-bodied are you to fight three young ‘hoods looking to do you harm? How about your father or grandfather, are they also he-men, like you? The point of firearms, which police also have for the main reason of defending themselves, is that they are force equalizers. I know CQB and carry knives, too. Do I ever… Read more »

Dave in Fairfax

HTCU, Thanks for trying to make him see sense. Since he’s a troll it won’t help, I’m afraid. I agree entirely. I look in the mirror and don’t see the kid in S.E. Asia I was in the early 70’s, but I don’t feel like rolling over just yet, and I sure don’t want my family hurt. I’ve tossed people out of my house 4 times, so far, and I’ve been cut, shot and burned. I’d prefer to avoid that in the future. I don’t know anyone who has “hobby guns”, don’t know anybody who has any guns who’d call… Read more »

Captain Quirk

Worst written article ever. Nowhere does it even say what the law that is supposed to be subject to the referendum IS!

The FIRST PARAGRAPH says “The New Mexico Republicans are leading a movement to repeal the offending law…”

WHAT law??? Hello?

Later, the article makes an oblque reference to a “Section 8”, but.nowhere is there any explanation of WHAT “Section 8” IS!

I’m about as pro- Second Amendment as you can get, but this article needs a thorough rewrite so readers can know WHAT IT’S ABOUT.

Rebecca

Thank you!

James in Alamogordo, NM

It’s hard to say, with so much getting rammed through this year. There are several anti-2A bills making their way to the Governor’s desk. One is criminalization of private firearm sales (so-called “universal background checks,”) another is a red flag law allowing police to get ex-parte orders to seize guns from a private citizen, a third is expanding the definition of child endangerment to include possessing firearms in a household with children without “adequate” storage. Basically if you have children and you don’t render your firearm useless for personal defense, you’re now a child abuser. They were also attempting to… Read more »

SGM (R) D. C. Vujevic

It’s not “Section 8,” it is Senate Bill 8. Just Google it. It is a “universal background check” for all but immediate family members.

Heed the Call-up

SGM, Section 8, Senate Bill 8 – same thing in my book, both crazy.

The Revelator

Its Actually HR8 It started in the House and has moved to the senate. The Senate bill was S7, Rubio’s red flag fiasco.

Both are about as useless and vile as it gets. I wont be complying.

Tionico

if you live in New Mexico you KNOW what the new atrocious law is. If you don’t you can’t sign the petition, nor does it really matter. If it does, then you can go do a simple search for Section 8.

Quit yer whining and let NM take care of itself.

Steven W Lowe

I will sign petition to annul the law

SteveK

Problem is that the Leftist Press and the colleges constantly brainwash our youth AGAINST the 2A. Even with a referendum it’s an uphill battle to protect the 2A.

Paula

Like they have no brain to think on their own…oh, wait, that’s a description of you!

Stanley Zinn

Im all in too, our weak governor keeps this up…… civil war. Where do I sign!

Paula

Stanley, you see it’s attitudes like yours that we need this kind of law — a civil war — listen to yourself! right away you want to fight, start a war! They SHOULD take your gun, you’re the kind of people that we want to know has a gun. by the way ignoramus, they don’t want to take your gun ypu jerk they just want to know that you got one — we want to know who’s got guns and who doesn’t. Like your crazy arse…war monger

Heed the Call-up

Paula, as a law-abiding citizen who has had more background checks than most criminals, what would yet another background check do, other than waste more time and money? Another background check would not make me, you, or society safer. His comment about civil war is valid and historically correct. We, the colonies, went to war against the greatest military power at the time, not over taxes, but when they tried to seize our arms and powder – note I stated arms, not firearms. The Brits had already seized the powder and arms in Boston and tried to further disarm the… Read more »

Sandy Heires

So watz the truth

R G Patton Sr

I was born in New Mexico next to the Texas border and now live in Arizona, I am a son of the Southwest. I hate to see these Lawmakers taking our rights away, but they only take what you let them take. America stand up!!! Be heard, vote and be aware of what they are doing. A lot of men and wanna have gave their lives for the rights we have today. Don’t give it away!!!

Paula

You’re ignorant. Guess until some crazy mother shoots you or your children you’ll continue to be ignorant.

Paula

A LOT OF MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN HAVE HAD THEIR LIVES TAKEN TO PRESERVE YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE A GUN — YOU ARE WHATS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY….

Dave in Fairfax

NO, lots of men with guns have died to reserve you right to run off at the mouth.

Paula

I’M SO GLAD YOU DONT LIVE HERE ANYMORE… I’m only for a wall if it will keep people like you out of New Mexico

James in Alamogordo, NM

Arizona has constitutional carry and it’s got the lowest homicide rate among the border States. This, while having major metropolitan areas. New Mexico was very pro-2A but this year they’ve lost their minds in Santa Fe. You’ve got to deal with criminals, nor just make more things crimes.

Chuck

Exactly RG! These so called political leaders do nothing to stop criminals and terrorists with their ignorant Gun Control laws because criminals and terrorists will NEVER obey laws! They only attack US the law abiding gun owners! As long as criminals are armed with illegal guns We The People must be armed to protect our families and selves……….Venezuela is a prime example since 2012 their political leaders turned against the People taking away their gun Rights NOW the criminals and terrorists RULE!!!

Gary Daniel

Isn’t this a Plebisite? Like the Citizen’s vote to put Napoleon I in place as their Emperor. Or like the thing Austria did to become one with Germany before WWII.
I don’t know if those two were so wise but this Law Repeal thing is awesome and it’s good to see that people are getting fed up with Government Decrees.

Joe

She will never have our guns nor the government we need to stand and stay true for our selves if the fight comes I’m there

Ernst

Noone is advocating taking your right to legally purchase a rifle or gun, the law will require all gun purchases to be done Via FFL a process already litigated not in violation of our constitution. The comparison is not realistic. Now when they come up with national registration we will fight them tooth and nail as that would violate the constitution!

J.M.N.

it is sad to see such a nice state being over run with thugs. They use the arts to promote themselves, as artists have the public trust. but these are not artists they are anarchists bent on a new world order. The people following the left are only doing it out of the need of belonging. real artists bring people together through the art they create. as an artist and a veteran i feel that guns are an important part of protecting my right to create.

Paula

You’re a fool plain and simple

J.M.N.

Thank you Paula. I’ll take that as a complement.

Mykroft

Unfortunately if the repeal is put to the people the big city folk have the population needed to vote to keep laws that are insane to the small town and country folk. If there was any sense in government firearm regulations would be made at the county level.