U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- On 28 January, a young man in a red hoodie snatched a pistol from a man openly carrying it, in Detroit, Michigan.
The video of the event is found here. ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=dq2zQp0_1l8 )
The robbery occurred in the BP gas station at Seven Mile and Wyoming Ave. A confederate held the store door open. It was unclear if there was another confederate in the getaway vehicle. The getaway vehicle did not have a rear license plate.
The man openly carrying the pistol was identified as being 53 years old. The surveillance video, released on 20 February, reportedly by the Detroit Police Department, shows the snatch. The open carry victim is busy at the counter with his wallet in his hand.
It appears the crime was not a crime of opportunity but was planned. The perpetrator in the red hoodie does not have to discern the pistol and make a decision. The snatch is done as soon as the pistol is seen. The perpetrator appears to know what is available and what he is going to do.
The pistol appears to be in a simple clip-on holster, which is merely clipped to a pocket. There does not appear to be any retention strap. The image of the black pistol, in a black holster against black pants, makes the resolution of the details difficult.
Some early accounts indicated the thief pointed the stolen gun at the owner. That is incorrect. The gun pointed at the owner is a different gun with an extended magazine. The thief was prepared for the robbery in advance.
The resolution of the video makes it difficult to determine if the thief snatched the pistol in the holster or snatched the pistol from the holster.
It is difficult to stop a crime that is well planned, with confederates, to take advantage of a vulnerability. In this case, the man at the counter had his attention occupied, his hands occupied with his wallet, and the pistol had very little retention.
The robber was armed with their own deadly weapon, or reasonable facsimile thereof.
Kofi Kenyatta tells fox2detroit there is a current backlog of applications for concealed pistol licenses in Wayne County, Michigan, where Detroit is located.
Kofi Kenyatta is the co-founder and vice president of the Black Bottom Gun Club which advocates for the Second Amendment and promotes safe and responsible gun ownership in Detroit and the surrounding areas.
“As I watched the video I definitely don’t want to blame the victim here, but it’s important that we have a perception of the elements in our immediate environment and make sure that we are aware of surroundings, alert to potential threats as well as being ready and able to react to actualized threats,” Kenyatta said. “Based on the feedback from the numerous instructors that are part of the Black Bottom Gun Club, there are many new Wayne County and Detroit firearm owners – and unfortunately they don’t have the ability to properly, legally obtain their CPLs.”
Kenyatta is referring to the nearly year-long wait to get an appointment with the Wayne County Clerk to apply for a Concealed Pistol License. He and others believe that could lead to more people open carrying.
Renewing permits takes much less time than obtaining a new permit, because of reforms passed in 2015. Many experiences are posted at migunowners.org:
About two weeks ago, a resident of Wayne County recounted obtaining a renewal in five days.
RENEWAL Online 5 days
Received my online renewal confirmation on Feb 1. Post marked on Feb 4th. In my hands on February 6th.
People who carry concealed also have their firearms stolen, sometimes because the robbers do not know they have a firearm.
A retired officer thought the whole situation might be fake, a set-up to obtain clicks. It appears it was pre-planned.
One obvious lesson is to use better firearm and holster retention. There are many better choices for open carry than a simple clip-on holster.
About Dean Weingarten:
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
It will just be called a peaceful protest by the left and reparations. He was entitled to that handgun due to the treatment of slaves . If he kills people with it they will call him a radical right winger .
Moral to the story; If you are going to carry, carry secure. Now there’s another snot nosed, gangster, punk kid that is armed out there. You can bet he’s not going to take it our shooting with his daddy next Sunday after Church.
Arm up and carry on.
Another white supremacist gains access to a firearm due to the lack of enhanced background checks.
Rob Pincus, we see your point now.
Dee, we feel your pain.
It is just plain stupid not to carry a pistol in a proper holster-especially openly.
But the thug carrying around a pistol with a 30 round magazine is also kinda special.
And having Politicians telling us we don’t need those high capacity clip magazine bullet thingy’s is also really stupid.
Dean nailed it in his last paragraph. Carrying, whether concealed or open, should be done with proper equipment. A properly worn holster with some level of retention as well as situational awareness is all it takes to prevent this from happening.
The use of the term “confederates” will just confuse the average dimocrat reader of this piece.
I don’t remember the last time I carried anything but my LCP during my everyday activities. That gun is carried Cond-3 in my right back pocket with a spare mag in my left front pocket. If I am going to the range the G-19 with two additional mags are on my belt. Being an older slightly over weight male I don’t strike most as someone who might kill them should the need arise. And that suits me just fine.
If you are going to carry do so responsibly. Get training and get to the range. In this case we must assume that the ‘hood is populated by large numbers of feral hoods. Be aware. Always.
Michigan has a disproportionate number of open carry grabs going back more than a decade. Almost all of them were pre planned. Virtually all of them also involve holsters with no retention. Carrying in a retention holster would help immensely. Constitutional carry would also go a long way to stopping this as then the people could conceal. The OCer being shot first is a myth. We have no documented instances of an open carrier being shot at the outset of a crime where the crime wasn’t taking the firearm. In other words we have no instances where someone walked into… Read more »
well if that man didn’t have that gun, the criminal wouldn’t have been able to steal it and we wouldn’t have another gun on the street, said the gun control activist.
actually the man shouldn’t have carried in such a reckless manner, it looks like it could just fall out of his pocket. might as well have just put it on the counter, would have been safer, but then could have been construed as armed robbery.
someone else mentioned situational awareness, 100% agree, don’t leave money sticking out of your pocket while you are picking your nose.