Group of Texas Firearms Instructors Oppose Constitutional Carry

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UPDATE: Michael Gamber of Revolver Mom, Inc., claims to have never signed onto the letter, but did get an email from Raul Camacho asking him to join. Gamber states he never replied and fully supports Constitutional Carry.  AmmoLand News is investigating further.

AUSTIN, TEXAS-(Ammoland.com)- A group of Texas license to carry (LTC) instructors lead by Raul Camacho have teamed up with anti-gun groups to try to sink Constitutional Carry in the Lone Star State.

The group led by LTC instructor Raul Camacho of Safety Measures, LLC held a press conference in front of the Texas Capitol where they called on the Legislature to vote down House Bill 1911, which would allow for permitless carry in the state. Camacho is also a board member of Gun Sense Texas.

Gun Sense Texas is an anti-gun group that is similar to Moms Demand Action. The group supports gun control efforts and proposes measures such as universal background checks, extreme protection orders (red flag laws), and “safe storage” laws. The organization strongly opposes removing any hurdle to gun ownership.

The House Homeland Security and Public Safety Committee approved HB 1927, marking the furthest any Constitutional Carry bill has made it in the Texas Legislature. The bill is up for a vote in the House today, where it is expected to pass because Republicans hold an 83-67 majority.

In the letter, the instructors claim to be strong supporters of the Second Amendment but are opposed to any bill that would allow Texans to exercise their natural and Constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms without the state government’s permission. The group wants to be able to “vet” the people who want to carry firearms. They compared having a license to carry permit with a privately owned shooting range having rules for using their range.

Gun rights activists argue that there is a difference between a privately owned business having safe handling rules and requiring someone to get permission from the state government to handle a firearm. They also argue range rules are more akin to laws like brandishing than to a permit scheme. A lot of gun rights supporters view this attempt to “vet” gun owners as gatekeeping.

The group argues that their LTC programs create responsible gun owners who are trained in firearms use and have an understanding of Texas laws. The letter states that they “take pride” in their programs. Some instructors who support Constitutional Carry think these instructors are worried that since they only offer the most basic training, they would not be able to survive because they are unwilling or unable to provide higher levels of classes.

The instructors also plead with the Legislature not to pass Constitutional Carry because it would hurt their bottom line. The group plays on the heartstrings by talking about how much the pandemic and lack of ammunition have hurt their businesses. They go on to state that HB 1911 might put some of them out of business.

The state reads: “Many small businesses have suffered because of the pandemic and the lack of ammo; we will suffer even more if you remove the LTC requirement in Texas it will put many of us out of business.”

Other LTC instructors vehemently disagree with the anti-Constitutional Carry instructors. One of these instructors is the Director of Training at Tier One Security Company, Jerah Hutchins.

Hutchins states: “Supporting Constitutional Carry as an LTC instructor is the difference between capitalism and greed. As instructors, our job is to teach and influence Texans to be responsible gun owners. This can be accomplished without an infringing licensure.”

Gun Owners of America (GOA) also have come out strongly against the instructor’s name in the letter.

GOA’s statement reads: “While Gun Owners of America encourages gun owners to obtain quality training, we would hate for any Texas gun owners to give their hard-earned money to the tiny fraction of instructors who actively fight against their core values. We urge our members to seek training from those who advocate in favor of our liberties and support Constitutional Carry.”

Wallace Dunn, President of the Texas Concealed Handgun Association, also weighed into the debate stating: “Training should not be a condition to exercising a constitutional right.”

AmmoLand News reached out to Camacho for comment, but our calls and Facebook messages were not returned.

Letter From LTC Instructors… by John Crump


About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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option31
option31
28 days ago

Absolutely shameful, this group is protecting their turf. They are not 2A supporters and people must speak with their money. Around here its a C note for CCW classes – is it worth it – it depends on who you take it from some are better than others. They ALL teach how to shoot, when to pull etc…. some teach the legal ramifications some expand on each. These teachers need to start working for their money, have a better class, more info, more training – having the state do your lifting and promoting your business is weak

Michael J Arnold
Michael J Arnold
28 days ago

Is that the sound of Instructors crying over the possibility of the Texas Legislators showing favoritism to the people’s rights over the Instructors’ revenues?

These are obviously folks with neither talent nor imagination, if they have to rely on the State to force people to take their classes.

Get off your lazy butts and start teaching a more useful class to the people who will still pay to learn.

Michael J Arnold
Staying Alive, Inc.

p,s. Good article, Mr. Crump

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago

Due to the obvious stupidity and tyranny from within the Texas gun community I am proposing the following amendment to the Texas Constitutional Carry Legislation; “ALL LTC Instructors in the State of Texas WILL support and defend ALL clients’ RIGHT to keep and bear arms at all times and at costs or forever lose their Licensing to Instruct Conceal Carry in the State of Texas and be banned from ALL State owned gun ranges and serve 30-90 days in their respective county jail and pay a fine of no less that $5,000 for each violation.” Or, we can do things… Read more »

Last edited 29 days ago by USMC0351Grunt
Grigori
Grigori
29 days ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

I like it!

Doobie
Doobie
29 days ago

It would be a shame if people pointed out their Anti-2A stance on Yelp: https://www.yelp.com/biz/safety-measures-liberty-hill-2

OR Google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Safety+Measures+LLC&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS805US806&oq=Safety+Measures+LLC&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#lrd=0x865b33836f75236d:0xd5efd9822029fc2d,1,,,

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
29 days ago

Strong supporter of the second amendment but say they are against no permits? The Raul Camacho guy is suffering from cognitive dissonance in a major way.

Arizona Don
Arizona Don
1 month ago

Constitutional carry is the only thing that works. Many wise citizens see securing a concealed carry permit as a form of registration which it certainly is. Anytime a government entity, any part of any government, has a record of who owns a gun it is registration make no mistake about that.  Common sense however tells us anyone without some kind of training needs training. The question is only should it be left up to the individual or should government have a say there and how to go about that say.  Approaching any dangerous situation without knowledge of how to proceed is a danger to everyone… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago
Reply to  Arizona Don

Personal handgun trailing has been in existence ever since handguns were developed.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
28 days ago
Reply to  USMC0351Grunt

Trailing – TRAINING Damn! Don’t get old!

Peel the onion
Peel the onion
1 month ago

So let me see, Instructors who make their living off of giving firearms classes are against Constitutional Carry? Hmmm. BS. Follow the money. They lose revenue if someone can simply buy a firearm and there is no standard that those individuals have to meet regarding taking a class provided by an authorized instructor. Seems pretty self-serving that these jokers have signed onto this letter.
I make no judgement that taking a class probably helps those first time gun owners.

Lumbo74
Lumbo74
1 month ago

Have to agree with the instructors. Some of what they see wanting to carry concealed may be the story. Now take that to the street and look around. You actually want some of those People actually carrying a gun? What are you thinking? Son of a bee hive. By the way I am a member of 2 gun clubs, do not carry a gun in my vehicle unless going to a match. My home is a different story. Just maybe go to a gun shop or gun show and see whats buying those pistol AR’s. It’s Democrats behind Constitutional Carry.… Read more »

notmyrealname
notmyrealname
1 month ago
Reply to  Lumbo74

In the many states that have no requirement for instructions in order to get a license to carry and in the states that already have Constitutional carry, there is not a higher crime or accident rate with legal firearms than in the states that mandate training. So what is the benefit for mandating a training course?

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago
Reply to  notmyrealname

$$$$$$

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
29 days ago
Reply to  Lumbo74

You are friggin’ brain damaged. Your credentials as a “gun owner” put you right up there with Elmer Fudd. Your daddy’s bird gun does not make you a “gun owner”.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
29 days ago

^^^^^

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USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago
Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
29 days ago
Reply to  Lumbo74

A “pistol AR”, with a brace standing in for a proper SBR, is the single best personal and home defense firearm generally available to the common citizen. You are uneducated and underprepaired.

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago

No, Lumbo74 is just plain stupid and a tyrant.

Stag
Stag
29 days ago
Reply to  Lumbo74

You’re just another Butter/Fudd

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago
Reply to  Lumbo74

I now know that I don’t want YOU to carry any gun in public!

JPM
JPM
1 month ago

Bunch of greedy hypocrites.

Ram
Ram
1 month ago

We are concerned about LEOs, who might follow illegal orders, placing
their employment above the constitution. Then there are these tacti-cool
posers who pretend to be American citizens, but were only actors on a stage, and the roles they played are no reflection of their gutless selves.
It has been reported that in states that adopted constitutional carry, the
rate of people seeking training actually increased. These particular instructors are either trying to get the state to guarantee their bottom lines,
or the narcissists are afraid of losing their spotlight.

Last edited 1 month ago by Ram
Keyboard-Junkie
Keyboard-Junkie
1 month ago

They’re just worried about their bottom line – they stand to lose their monopoly and income.

Grigori
Grigori
1 month ago

Yep! We have these kind of turds in SC, also. They want everyone to have to come through them and leave a pile of cash, to get their permits. Then, you have the ones who have their permit already and it makes them feel “sooo special” to be in an elite little group. They don’t want ordinary citizens exercising their rights and thereby diminishing their feeling of being special. What many do not realize, is that you likely would have a similar number of people applying for permits just to have the reciprocity in other states, or the ease of… Read more »

Mike P
Mike P
1 month ago
Reply to  Grigori

Easy with the broad brush there fella. I live in SC, have my permit and support constitutional carry. Of the other permit holders I know, they all support Federal constitutional carry.

Grigori
Grigori
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike P

I never said it was ALL CWP holders or ALL CWP instructors, just that we have that kind here and unfortunately, we do.

Grigori
Grigori
29 days ago
Reply to  Grigori

To underscore my point, there is (or was, not sure) a pro-CWP restaurant in the Irmo or Chapin area, Chickadees. They had signs welcoming CWP holders and “may” (again, I am unsure) at one time have offered discounts on meals to CWP holders. Sounded good! An old friend and myself talked about eating there one day to support them and perhaps enjoy the atmosphere of fellowship surrounded by like-minded people. Before we made that happen, there was a local news outlet doing a story on a Constitutional Carry bill that was in play in the SC Legislature. As always, they… Read more »

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago

After collectively signing that letter. we should GUARANTEE they ALL lose their business!

DDS
DDS
1 month ago

“In the letter, the instructors claim to be strong supporters of the Second Amendment but are opposed to any bill that would allow Texans to exercise their natural and Constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms without the state government’s permission.” Taken from a linguistic point of view, the above sentence, two clauses separated by the conjunction “but“, is of a type often referred to as “The Big But.” Functionally, because of that separating conjunction, the second clause, negates part if not all of the first clause. In practice, no one can give you a list of infringements that they favor… Read more »

Grigori
Grigori
1 month ago
Reply to  DDS

That’s what I call, “a big ole hairy, smelly, BUT”.

JIAZ
JIAZ
1 month ago

“Every man must be for the United States or against it. There can be no neutrals in this war; only patriots and traitors.”
Stephen A. Douglas

Finnky
Finnky
1 month ago
Reply to  JIAZ

Problem is that both sides see themselves as patriots. Of course reality disagrees.

CourageousLion
CourageousLion
29 days ago
Reply to  JIAZ

What an out of context quote. He was quite the UNIONIST.

The other Jim
The other Jim
1 month ago

Raul Camacho forgot the street address of his Anti-Second Amendment Traitor/Trainer organization: 707 EAGLECREEK DR LEANDER, TX 78641-7916.
GOA is right and I hope you boys down there boycott Safety Measures LLC, anti-second amendment Raul Camacho and his anti-second amendment pals at Texas Guns Sense.
Don’t forget to Copy and Past it to your Left Wing Anti file for businesses you Do Not Patronize “Safety Measures LLC”.

Grigori
Grigori
1 month ago
Reply to  The other Jim

Hell yeah!!!!!!

Roland T. Gunner
Roland T. Gunner
29 days ago
Reply to  The other Jim

You think we will get a lot of pushback from FFL holders if we ever get the chance to repeal GCA 1968?

Grigori
Grigori
29 days ago

No doubt, there will be some, sad to say.
🙁

USMC0351Grunt
USMC0351Grunt
29 days ago

What? You think just because they hold an FFL that they can’t also be stupid?

The other Jim
The other Jim
29 days ago

No doubt at all Roland. Instead of true gunsmiths and selling product at fair prices, etc. many will not give up that gravy money (transfer in/out $40 this one, $50 that one, etc). In that day there will be all kinds of FFL traitors to the People’s 2nd. Amendment with weak and unconstitutional argument.