Stolen Guns from L.A. Trains Make Mockery of ‘Commonsense’ Laws

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Guns are among the items that have been stolen from cargo containers on railroad tracks in Lincoln Heights,” The Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday.

“People were … breaking into these containers and stealing firearms, tens of firearms,” Los Angeles Police Chief Michel Moore said. “That gave us the great concern as a source again of further violence in the city as people were capitalizing on the transport of these containers with having little or no policing or security services there.”

“LAPD Deputy Chief Al Labrada, who commands the Central Bureau, which includes the Lincoln Heights railroad tracks, said the department has recovered ‘numerous guns’ from people who said the weapons were taken from boxcars in the area,” the report adds. That means they’ve only recovered the tip of the iceberg and unknown quantities of guns have been added to the criminal underworld’s black-market inventory and on their way to “the streets.”

So much for background checks, waiting periods, “may issue” permits, “red flag laws,” and the host of other infringements that have “earned” California a Giffords “A”-grade for “strongest gun laws in the United States.” I’ll even bet none of the stolen firearms were “ghost guns.”

The story actually raises more questions than it answers. First and foremost: Who shipped the guns and where were they being sent?

Were they commercial shipments going from dealers to FFLs/gun stores for the “civilian” market? Or were they being sent to police and government agencies? If the latter, are we talking about firearms reserved for law enforcement and denied to average citizens in the name of “commonsense gun safety” now being in predators’ hands?

The manifests should answer those questions, but either way, what is the likelihood that the thieves just stumbled upon the shipments by happenstance? Conversely, what is the likelihood that organized criminal enterprises have inside sources that told them just where to look?

And is this a first or has it happened before? How many times?

Meanwhile, Gavin Newsom is out there doing photo ops pretending he’s doing clean-up work, and apologizing for offending “progressive” sympathies by referring to L.A. as a  “third-world country” and referring to the scumbag thieves as “gangs.”

Priorities, you know.

And, of course, here was the kicker:

“I don’t think anyone particularly cares about who to blame…”

We know who is to blame for setting up the conditions that have devolved the Golden State from what was once a mecca for freedom and prosperity into a third-world, crime-infested hellhole, with poop on the street in major cities and enough voters getting their cut out of “our Democracy” to keep the political grift mills rolling. And in this case, noting who’s “in charge,” expect blame, and plenty of it, to be placed on guns, with any violence committed with the newly-stolen firearms used to “justify” further infringements on the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

If it turns out the shipments were for the commercial market, look for money-grabbing lawsuits “to hold the industry accountable,” and legislation to require cost-prohibitive new “security” measures, which will ultimately be passed on to consumers through even higher prices.

Meanwhile, Chief Moore “said the LAPD is working with the Department of Transportation on physical improvements to the Lincoln Heights site that would deter would-be rail burglars.”

With a governor afraid to call a gang a gang and a Soros prosecutor whose agenda is to spread and embed the cultural Marxism, don’t look for such “deterrence” to be the kind that would set a quick example discouraging would-be looters from even trying.

Instead, look for:

“In response to these thefts, Union Pacific increased the number of special agents, drones, specialized fencing and trespass detection systems. Thursday’s cleanup effort signaled the support Union Pacific is receiving from its community partners to continue to invest the necessary resources to move forward.”

Because that’s worked so well at the border. Just ask Gavin Newsom, offering California “sanctuary” to any immigration lawbreaker who asks.


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Tank

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.

Plato

swmft

sounds like importer lost a shipment

Grim

So that is how Californians get around filling out the ATF forms for firearms purchases.

chiefton

This shows what a farce Dems gun control is. Think about it, they will go after legal gun owners and make life as difficult as they can for them while totally ignoring and not prosecuting those that STEAL guns. Unbelievable.

KK

That sums it up pretty damn good!

musicman44mag

Where are the Pinkerton’s when you need them.

OreGONE

3l120

Southern Pacific has its own police. Has a PD classmate who retired to head its L,A. office. Bout 30 years ago.

Ray

I worked for Southern Pacific PD, Western Division, headquartered out of Oakland, after I got out of USAF Security Police – 1971. We had the same problem, but they didn’t leave all that trash. Needed those shipping boxes so they could tie down the stolen goods to their car, truck, etc..

Rock

Newsome “stood with them” after the fact. HE and his Dem president and cohorts are the reason it continues to happen.

Cruiser

Yet they want to take away firearms which were legally purchased.
Yeah, we’re the problem, not the thugs. Freakin’ government morons.

Elisa Delaurenti

The world’s trolls are the ones trafficking in “illegal guns”. Always has been, always will be. Gavin and his aunty are responsible for this scenario setup. Yet they, and the rest of the world’s trolls, DEMAND that you and I disarm. Do you suppose Gavin and his aunty pelosi will now scream that the Union Pacific Railroad is trafficking in “illegal guns” now? What about all those “illegal pharmaceuticals” that were stolen? Were the stolen toys “illegal toys”? See how this works? THEY create the crisis, so that they can impose their favorite stalin/lenin and yes, hitler tactic against the… Read more »

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musicman44mag

Haven’t heard from you in quite a while. Glad to see you back out here.

OreGONE

CaptainKerosene

Train robbers used to be shot. Train robbery learned a lesson.
The lesson today is robbery is without risk and just plain fun.

hippybiker

These SNBs don’t understand that Railroads are private property and the Railroads have always hade Eminent Domain. They still have the right to use arms against trespassers and thieves! It’s only a matter of time before idiotic SNBs get gunned down!

Elisa Delaurenti

but but but…… guns are “illegal” in California! Besides….. They’d kill too many of their poor oppressed victim VOTERS if they did that.

musicman44mag

You are absolutely right about eminent domain and the proof is that the homeless live next to the tracks because the local law enforcement can’t touch them on railroad property. It’s all over OreGONE and kommieforia.

Tionico

It has likley changed since then but it as not that long ago I checked… and under Califnroia law, it is legal to use lethal force to protect PROPERTY in that state. Thus the railroads would be totally justified and wihtin the law to deploy ARMED guards authorised to USE LETHAL FORCE. Three clowns shot at, not hit, and the game would be off in fifteen minutes. How STUID do these wonks need to get?

Either the railroad is committed to safe custody of the goods entrusted to them or they are not. A or B. One or the tuther.

Tionico

and for profit. NEVER forget the profit factor.

loveaduck

Same with looters.

Wass

I do not know how gun manufacturers and importers ship products to FFL dealers, but I do know, precious metals dealers and diamond dealers use USPS registered mail (NOT certified mail). This, I’ve been told is the most secure method of shipment. That firearms could be sent carelessly on freight trains seems ridiculous.

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hippybiker

Firearms used to be sent via the USPS but LBJ and Commie Demon Rat Senator Thomas Dodd changed all that with NAZI Weapons Control Act of 1968!

3l120

You can still ship USPS for long arms. Handguns if you have a dealer FFL.

Elisa Delaurenti

Perhaps when they’re imported in shipping containers?

Tionico

whenever they travel interstate. Rail is far cheaper. And far more efficient. All carriers use rail for the longer legs. Nothing ew, nor particulary risky. We have NEVER had anything like this happen in the shipping industry. Worst case I am ware of is the theft of four pallets of new RUger guns from an UPS faciliy I think in or near Ohio. It turned out to be an inside job, most guns (some four hundred) were recovered, and a few hands got slapped. I Seem to recall the actual thieaves got something like fifteen years for theheist. Not the… Read more »

3l120

Theft is the reason that UPS and FedEx require overnight shipping on handguns.

Wild Bill

I did not know that. Good info!

musicman44mag

When I have sent in guns for repair, UPS and USPS won’t touch them only FedX. When I have bought them from another state they always come to the FFL in a FedX box.

Tionico

They are not “sent carelessly” on the railroads. All major carriers use sealed containers which travel by truck chassis and/or rail for long legs of their journey. USPS UPS FedEx, DHL, all consign containers they fill to travel on rail. It has not been a problem until the recent extreme lawlessness, mainly since the “Summer of love” wiht BLM.antifa, and the rise of permanent “homelessness”. The governments of a few places oave not just tolerated this, they have aided and abetted and institutionalised these things. this is just one more eflavour of the fruit of lawlessness. READ ALINSKY. He wrote… Read more »

BMG_Gunner

Ive seen some from all the carriers with shipments from UPS, USPS, and FedEx while holding an FFL, but insured registered mail USPS was one of the few options that would even accept shipping a transferable MG from coast to coast to my SOT. Looks like shipping policies vary based on location and FFL or individual as shipper/receiver.

HLB

The self-driving trains, copters, and delivery trucks are coming soon. At what point do we consider the industry feeding the anti-gun culture a prime target?

HLB

Elisa Delaurenti

I saw a video of a Burger King self driving kiosk car. The guy keyed his order into his cell phone at his house. In a few minutes, the Burger King delivery robot (a new Dodge Charger) came to the house, the guy went out and keyed his code into a door pad, and the rear window opened and his food was there, hot and ready. These kids won’t know how to feed themselves. These kids won’t know how to grow and harvest their own food. Their rulers are depending on that. I’m so relieved that I’m old and sick.… Read more »

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hippybiker

This has been going on rail yards in Chicago for years! SNBs infiltrate he Railroads to gain information about shipments so other SNBs can rob the trains! These shipments include Military equipment! Years ago, I worked for 2 major Railroads in the Chicago, Indiana and Michigan area. So I know for sure that this is the case!

Elisa Delaurenti

I’ve no doubt at all. But in this particular case, it’s not that.

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Monkey Mouse

That was a thing here in NJ when the Mafia controlled all transportation back when I was a kid. Difference is that they didn’t make that much of a mess – they knew what was important and left the rest on the train…

Lava

What is SNB?

nrringlee

This is what life in a New Left Progressive Blue Utopia looks like. Up is down. Good is evil. Evil is good. Man is woman. Woman is lizard. Words have no meaning. Law is what ever bureaucrats and mobs say it is to fit their current needs. When you abandon that which has worked over the centuries, the idea of constitutional republican government subject to universal principles you end up with pandemonium. Every time. In every place. That is California today. The once amazing and beautiful and bountiful Golden State has been rendered a smoldering heap of ashes by those… Read more »

Elisa Delaurenti

Very nicely put.

Montana is deluged with those new voters today. It’s a nightmare what’s happening here, and most all Montana folks have never had to deal with antifa face to face. They don’t know what a “what do we want and when do we want it” commie looks like. They think they look like university professors.

musicman44mag

You just got Montana back on track with your new governor and the passing of new laws that prevent cities from creating new gun free zones or gun free cities and obtained constitutional carry. Hopefully, a lot of the kommiefornians moving in will have republican ideals and those won’t be the ones moving to Missoula, Helena and Kalispell.

Keep Montana on track. The real USA needs you.

OreGONE

swmft

that is why machine guns are needed, self defense

Capn Dad

It’s here!

Hazcat

Yet another reason for firearm manufacturers, distributers, FFLS and anyone involved in the 2A community to stop doing business with and in CA.

Arny

It can & has happened in other cities. As commented by Hippybiker. Sounds like you are pushing to restrict citizens rights that you freely exercise. You’re sounding like a leftist. Could this be possible ?

JSNMGC

Newsome thanks you for trying to accomplish what California Democrat politicians have not been able to accomplish – depriving people of their firearm rights.

Which state is next on your list? NY? NJ?

Hazcat

Not too smart are you? The ONLY way the gun industry can survive repeated and costly attacks from states like this is to refuse to do business there. Or are you OK with the rising cost of guns pricing out people with lower incomes so that lawyers can get richer and CA taxpayers can be fleeced?

swmft

no sales to state or cities in the comi areas , nothing for police, you watch the big funeral the nypd wont help anyone in these shi hole neighborhoods bury family they arrest someone who has a gun to stop break ins working for nypd is belonging to a criminal gang! would any of you cry if government oppressor was killed? I doubt either of these were good cops, weren’t shot in back by other cops

Elisa Delaurenti

I’d say move their businesses and employees out, but stop doing business there? That would be bad for the small percentage of Americans left in that sh!thole.

JSNMGC

Small percentage, but large absolute number.

There are millions of pro 2nd Amendment people living in California.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_election_results,_2020

3l120

This is probably a case of breaking Kali into 2 states; SoCal and Frisco Bay in one and the rest of the state as another. The gun owners in Kali are what is happening in other western states.

As an aside, I live in S. Utah and several years ago the local newspaper was bought out by Gannett and USA Today. Went from a conservative paper to about as liberal as you can get. Just the Left trying to convince Utahns that they are mistaken in their political beliefs. Happening elsewhere from what I have seen going cross country.

Wild Bill

Good intel. If Gannett did that in your area, then they might be buying local newspapers in other small towns.

Monkey Mouse

CA has already decided that it wants to put gun manufacturers out of business – NY too. So a gun manufacturer selling to the entity that is trying to put them out of business makes no sense at all – cut them off and let them suffer. CA residents elected these shitbags, let them feel the pain to make them realize they are alive.

JSNMGC

That’s like saying Americans decided to implement the NFA of 1934, the GCA of 1968, etc., so piss on Americans – no company should sell firearms to Americans.

Which state is next on your list – NY? NJ?

Some folks won’t be happy until they have made the firearm rights community as small as possible.

JSNMGC

1932 Presidential Election
Texas: 88.06% for Franklin Roosevelt
 
1964 Presidential Election
Texas: 63.3% for Lyndon Johnson

Should firearm rights proponents really throw pro 2nd Amendment Californians under the bus?

Tionico

this stuff is only passing through on the trains. Those goods are bound for different parts of the country. Many of those cans cmoe from the ports, overseas goods first entering the country. Others are used for long-leg interstate mvoement of all manner of goods. USPS< FedEx, USPS all stuff cans and put them on trains. Trucking has become so expensive, and in Califrnia a rare thing (because of some stupid new laws the dumb voters brought in last year, taking about 60% of the truck tractors off the road in that state) SOme of those cans likey came out… Read more »

Hazcat

Gun Manufacturers that continue to do business in CA put the gun rights of all Americans at risk. The constant law suits they have to fight adds to costs and prices many Americans out of the market and when they lose these fights as they often do, other states look at that and start their own anti 2A lawfare against us. So who is doing more damage? Those that continue to support businesses in CA or those that want to stop CA by denying them of the ammo to fight us?

JSNMGC

Gun manufacturers in the United States have to fight lawsuits.

At which state will you stop applying your logic? NY? NJ? CT? MA? IL?

swmft

the manufactures need to stop selling to states that restrict peoples rights at federal level no machine gun sales to government , no parts I cant buy a new one neither can you.

JSNMGC

Hazcat suggests firearm companies not sell firearms to private individuals (not just government organizations) who live in California.

Tionico

the Commerce Clause of the US Constitutioin would prohibit this. And rightly so. Just because someone remains in one state that is strongy antigun does not mean a boycott of that state for all gun sales is proper or even effective.

Orion

incorrect. the commerce clause says nothing about a public or private company refusing sales to government identities. i suggest you look up case law and rulings.

3l120

I am retiredLAPD. When Kali voted to make Barrett 50s illegal, Barrett refused to sell or repair their products to law enforcement there. Really irritated a bunch of SWAT teams.

Wild Bill

Interesting what years?

swmft

if they stood up for the rights of others might have made a difference but they would not so

Orion

exactly!

Tionico

these goods are not all bound for California gun shops. Most are simply being moved THROUGH California toother destinations. likely OregonWashignton Idaho Montana, Wyoming Utah, and even Nevada. California happens to be “in the way”. This is not a matter of “doing business with California” it is a matter of simply moving the goods through part of that state.

musicman44mag

With all of kommiefornias new laws like 10 round, nothing that is a real AR, and I think now the only pistols that are allowed to the plebes is micro stamp pistols or that is a law that they are proposing and when that goes through, there won’t be any legit gun manufactures left that are worth a dam to sell to them. I think they are down to 5 pistols that are allowed by DOJ in kommiefornia and if they make one little change to that gun, they have to re-apply for clearance to sell them in that kommie… Read more »