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U.S.A.-(– At a press conference in Indiana on 18 March, Greenwood Police Chief Ison revealed details about the Armed Samaritan who stopped the mass murder at the Greenwood Park Mall on the south edge of the Indianapolis metroplex.

The suspect entered the mall at 4:54 p.m., according to security cameras, and went directly to the restroom near the food court. He stayed in the restroom for  an hour and two minutes., emerging and firing at 5:56. He killed three people and wounded two more in a few seconds.

At 5:57, Elisjsha Dicken, 22, who was shopping at the mall with his girlfriend, drew his pistol and started to engage the suspect at long range. He fired about ten rounds with his 9mm pistol. Dicken was carrying the handgun legally, under the Constitutional Carry law which went into effect on July 1, 2022, in Indiana.

Surveillance video captured almost the entire incident, according to Chief Ison.

Chief Ison stated Elisjsha Dicken was very proficient in his shooting and was tactically sound, advancing on the suspect who attempted to retreat to the restroom, but collapsed before he was able to enter. As Dicken fired and advanced on the suspect, he motioned people to move behind him to escape.

According to the Chief, Dicken had no police or military training.

Chief Ison said:

“Many more people would have died last night if not for a responsible armed citizen that took action very quickly.” 


At 5:57 p.m., Elisjsha Dicken, an armed bystander, fired on Sapirman. Dicken fired 10 rounds, hitting Sapirman as Sapirman tried to retreat into the bathroom but collapsed and died.

Dicken had no police training or military background, according to police. He was carrying under the new “Constitutional Carry” law and did not have a permit.

The police found 24 fired rounds of .223 caliber in the mall. The suspect fired only one rifle, a 5.56 (.223) AR-15 rifle. A Smith & Wesson MP15 rifle was found disassembled in a backpack in the restroom. The suspect had a pistol on his person, which was never fired. The suspect had over 100 rounds of ammunition on him.

Chief Ison explained the training which was done before the shooting. During the press conference, he spent some time on how the training concentrated on cleaning up the aftermath, controlling traffic, establishing a single command center, dealing with people looking for possible victims.

All these things are essential, but they are secondary to stopping the killing. In this case, the police have done well at investigating and cleaning up the mess after the killing.


This case is an example of the value of Constitutional (permitless) carry. If Elisjsha Dicken had not been carrying in the Greenwood Park Mall, Chief Ison believes the death toll would have been much higher.  Police Chief Ison and the local authorities have done well by thanking Dickens for responding so quickly and effectively.

Even though the police arrived very quickly by ordinary standards, the killing was over by the time police arrived. Dicken turned himself into the mallls security, explaining that he was one of the shooters.

Shooting is a sport.  Murder is a crime. It is Orwellian programming to infer shooters are murderers.  The Orwellian propaganda falls apart when it is clear an Armed Samaritan shooter stopped the killing.

About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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In a mass shooting event like this, I wonder what the results would be if there were 2 or 3 good samaritans. How many of the good samaritans would be shot by another good samaritan, not knowing who is the ‘bad guy with a gun’..


You will know because of where they are pointing. Carriers know how to manage.


Good thing this wasn’t Kenosha, Wisconsin. Dicken would be in jail awaiting trial.


I was shocked when the today show reported that it was just a person. Not LEO.


I would like to know what weapon the heroic young man used.




“At a press conference in Indiana on 18 March,”

That should be July, correct?


As Paul Harvey used to say: “And now for the rest of the story.”
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Amazing. Medal of Freedom for Eli!