AmmoLand News Cited in DC Mass Transportation Second Amendment Gun Case

AmmoLand News Cited in DC Mass Transportation Second Amendment Case
AmmoLand News Cited in DC Mass Transportation Second Amendment Case

U.S.A.-(— AmmoLand News has been cited in the Angelo v. District of Columbia case. The case challenges the constitutionality of a ban on carrying arms on public transportation in the District of Columbia.

The AmmoLand article is cited, and the illustration is shown, on page 27 of the Memorandum of Points and Authorities submitted to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, on October 30, 2022.

The article in AmmoLand News about the illustration of the street car scene in New York came about in this manner:

The illustration was published on as part of a discussion about a proposed NY law to restrict ammunition by a Freeper with the screen name of Ruy Dias de Bivar, on post #24.

This correspondent inquired about the image’s provenance and learned it came from The Remington Historical Treasury of American Guns, published in 1966.

This correspondent obtained a copy of the Remington Historical Treasury of American Guns, which credited the New York Public Library Picture Collection. The New York Library Picture Collection was contacted. They found a somewhat later version of the image was published in the Police Gazzette on April 19, 1884.

A brother of this correspondent urged him to contact the attorneys in the case of Angelo v. D.C. The attorneys were contacted and were glad to receive the information.

On October 30, 2022, the Memorandum of Points and Authorities was electronically submitted to the DC court.

From the Memorandum:

In any event, Bruen is concerned not with what was common  or uncommon social practice, but with the history and tradition of firearms regulation. And the quote DC posits, wherever it might have come from, assuming it actually came from somewhere, has no relation to carrying on transportation vehicles. Anecdotal evidence indicates gun carrying on public transportation was not unusual. The following illustration in the April 19, 1884, Police Gazette shows several passengers in a New York City horsecar with handguns. See Dean Weingarten, 1884 New York Street Car Scene Shows Carry of Pistols Common Before 1911, Ammoland (September 18, 2022) (Exhibit 6, hereto.)

For those interested in the details of the case, the memorandum is well worth reading. Those who have a pacer account can read it now. It should become available shortly at and

At 45 pages long, it is too much to post on AmmoLand News. Here is part of the Summary of the Argument:

Under these facts, Supreme  Court precedent says that is sufficient to confer standing on them to contest the Metro ban.  Plaintiffs meet all preliminary injunction requirements. They are likely to prevail on the  merits because DC failed to point to established, representative “distinctly similar” restrictions from the founding era banning firearm carry on public transportation vehicles. Public transportation arose shortly after ratification of the Second Amendment and grew throughout the 19th  Century to include ferry service, riverboats, omnibuses, commuter rail, interstate passenger rail  and street cars. In the early 20th Century subway service developed. Defendants point to no laws  prohibiting gun carry on these conveyances during the relevant period, much less an established  tradition of banning gun carry on public transportation. That dooms DC Code § 7-2509.07(a)(6). 

The Metro system is not analogous to schools or the Capitol grounds. The mere fact minors  and government workers are present does not convert a public place into a sensitive place. If guns  could be banned everywhere children or government workers might be, in no place in the city  could Plaintiffs exercise their Second Amendment right to carry a firearm for personal protection.  The Court should eschew opposing parties’ invitation to engage in interest balancing and focus instead on the Supreme Court’s requirement that DC demonstrate its regulation is consistent with  he Nation’s historical tradition of firearms regulation. See New York State Rifle & Pistol Ass’n v. Bruen,142 S.Ct 2111 (2022) (hereinafter “Bruen”). The District has not met that requirement. The few place restrictions DC and amici point to, other than the voting precincts, legislative assemblies, and courts Bruen discussed, were enacted in the late 19th Century and thus are far removed from the Second Amendment’s adoption, were enacted in only a few states and territories, were not long standing, and most importantly did not ban gun carry on public transportation.

The Bruen decision, written by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, is clear.

If restrictions on the exercise of rights protected by the Second Amendment were not common and accepted near the time of ratification of the Amendment or with less importance, near the time of ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment, they are unconstitutional.

This correspondent expects the ban on carry on public transportation will be found to be unconstitutional.

Angelo v. District of Columbia Reply to Opposition to Motion for Preliminary Injunction 2022-10-30

About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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Dubi Loo

Congratulations Dean




I don’t know what the women on the horse drawn car subway train said to them ole boys in that picture, but they sure look pissed off. The man across from her is pointing his revolver straight at her, and the man to her left is about to shoot her. The women appears to be holding her revolver by the barrel. I sure would like to know what was said on the subway that day.

Last edited 19 days ago by Ope

Could the man in the bowler hat be holding a warrant for her arrest in his left hand?


Just one word, SWEET!


Dean, I hope your article is a contribution to Angelo et al. winning the case. If enough untoward restrictions are eliminated I’ll apply for a non-resident permit and once again visit this nation’s capital.