Virginia – -(AmmoLand.com)- Last week I was on vacation in Florida and went out for an afternoon walk. Florida, for all its heat and humidity, does not allow open carry. So that afternoon I was carrying a Sig P320 subcompact in .40 S&W in a small fanny pack over my appendix.
At one point during the walk through a neighborhood in Cape Canaveral, a mother pushing a baby in a stroller was walking in the opposite direction. As we approached each other, the mother suddenly got a frightened look on her face, stopped, and backed up with the stroller, partly into a yard.
My radar went up, and I looked to my left, only to see a pit bull running out of an open fence gate across the street and headed straight towards me, with no owner in sight! All I could see were those large jaws and extremely muscular physique.
I had just enough time to unzip the fanny pack and to grab the grip of the P320 before the dog was next to me. I avoided eye contact, looking straight ahead and continuing to walk, but watching the dog in my peripheral vision.
Was this dog about to attack or was this just a playful, BUT FULL-SIZED, “puppy“? As a dog owner myself, the last thing I wanted to do is to shoot someone else’s dog if there was any way to avoid it.
In that two-second interval as I was reaching for my gun, I had already decided that if that dog attacked me, that baby, or her mother, I was going to shoot the dog, in the spine if possible, else wherever I could get a safe shot. Pitt bulls have a thick skull so that a headshot can be tricky. Also, you don’t want to destroy the dog’s brain, if possible so that it can be later checked for rabies.
[The sheepdog in me: I also remember thinking that if someone was to be attacked, far better it was me than the baby or the mother.]
Bam! The dog ran behind me and then quickly hit me hard in the back of my right knee, making my leg buckle. But I did not detect a bite or an actual attack.
The dog then ran in front of me, bounding in short leaps. “Only a puppy!,” I prayed hopefully.
The dog then started running towards the baby in the stroller, as the mother stood frozen. I continued to watch the dog intently while walking quickly to close the distance between the dog and myself just in case…
But the dog stopped short of the stroller and then turned and ran back towards one of the houses.
I let out a final sigh of relief, released my grip on the gun (the gun remained concealed through the entire event), re-zipped the fanny pack, and continued on my way, as did the mother and her baby.
Some important notes:
- Many dogs, including pit bulls, don’t always growl before an attack. So you can’t count on a growl as a warning or precursor to an attack. Truth is many dog owners inadvertently train their dogs to attack without warning when they bop their growling dog on the nose. The dog doesn’t learn that he’s not allowed to strike, only that he’s not allowed to growl!
- A wagging tail on a pit bull doesn’t necessarily mean they are friendly. Pitbulls wag their tails when excited. There are plenty of videos with pit bulls tearing into another dog or person with the pit bull’s tail wagging to beat the band. Thus, while the above dog was indeed wagging its tail, I gave that no credence one way or the other.
This event served as yet another reminder that danger can appear anywhere and at any time. You’re either ready or your not. I was ready, but very thankfully, it was but a false alarm.
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These so called “dogs” are a menace pure and simple. They are born viscious and mean and they die viscious and mean. Only kind of folks that buy em are tweakers, which ought to be enough to keep any decent person away from these demons.
Pit bulls are “nanny dogs”, “most people can’t even identify a pit bull”. “pit bulls are sweet”, “pit bulls are misunderstood”, “pit bulls are the most loving dogs”,” all dogs bite”, “chihuahuas are more aggressive”, “it’s not bad dogs; it’s bad owners” On the last statement you are absolutely correct: Keep your mauler away from me and my family. Because if it approaches me on the street and I have to take steps to defend myself, whatever happens next is YOUR fault…..bad owner.
The pitbull (apbt) was bred for animal aggression not human never was a nanny dog. People don’t know a pit if they was shown a apbt its sad for the breed so much Miss labeling the way I look at it is all dogs have mouths any can bite it’s only if they choose to. I love apbts but I’m petrified of chows lol
Appellate courts have ruled that a dog owner of ordinary intelligence can identify a pit bull (See: Ohio v. Anderson, 1991). In addition to this, the high courts have ruled that scientific precision is not required when determining the breed. Since most pitbull owners are seriously lacking in intelligence they may have a problem. The next rant of pitbull isn’t a breed. The UKC states otherwise: http://www.ukcdogs.com/american-pit-bull-terrier
One thing is for sure, the term responsible Pit Bull owner is an oxymoron. You either do not own one or you are a kook.
Not all Pitt Null owners are as you say kooks, I have three Pitt Bulls and everyone of them have been great dogs, two of them even gave their lives to protect me from getting injured, the or bitten by a rattle snake, on different occasions. PittBulls can be great dogs it all depends on the way the owner raises them.
I feel your loss of your two Pits.
Your lack of knowledge is only exceeded by your abundance if arrogance.
Let me guess. You’ve never owned an ABPT have you? Your statement proves to me you’re the “kook”, and quite the uninformed, prejudiced, stereotype believing kook at that.
Just how long have you been gobbling up the fake news you see on CNN?.
12 children injured in dog attack at Oklahoma City elementary school
https://okcfox.com/news/local/police-dog-bites-2-children-at-oklahoma-city-elementary-school
I keep using the Detroit metropolitan area because back during the Obama era recession and lack of jobs, so many families were up and leaving the area to find life elsewhere, leaving their pets behind to run loose and breed and run in packs in that area.
The threat of pit bulls us such a weak claim that even Michigan’s governor yawns at the breed specific legislation being battered around.
https://amp.freep.com/amp/513853002
People such as the author of the story and Catherine Hobbs responding just makes things, well, really entertaining.
I still do not hear all the blood-curdling screams of terror from the Detroit metropolitan area from the some 50,000 stray pit bulls running loose up that way? No reports of pitbulls walking down the street with somebody’s arm in their mouth? No babies being ripped from their beds or from their front play stations in the front yards and dragged off or mauled to death? No State of Emergency from Michigan’s governor? Detroit mayor? County commissioners? The problems with the tens of thousands of dogs left,behind by their owners that are running loose doesn’t seem to be newsworthy any… Read more »
No body cares about anything that goes on in Michigan.
tell somebody who cares. whether you own a car, dog, firearm – you are responsible for safe “operation” so deal with it and stfu.
All you guys have failed to mention the Old Fighting Dog of Cordoba which is now extinct. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordoba_Fighting_Dog
If anyone is interested in a Dogo Argentino I know a lady here in East Texas that rescues them. Post a response with an email and I will send you her info.
What pissed Catherine Hobbs off?
Keep your dog of any breed properly controlled. I had a pit bull that was extremely affectionate and intelligent. I always kept her apart from other animals. I never got bit by her. I have been nailed three time by poodle mixes.
Petie loved to sit on my lap and be spoiled. One night she jumped off my lap, went and killed a snake, then jumped back into my lap. Sweet pet and killer both. Almost as unpredictable and deadly as a human.
FWIW keeping one’s dog in his own yard at all times is the sensible and safe thing to do for any type of dog if you want him to live very long. Cars vs dog isn’t much of a contest ya know.. I like my Hidden Fence set up myself. A 2 acre yard and he never leaves the yard.
@Must Have Hammer, I concur. All of the dogs, that my fellow Texans have generously shared with me, are on my side of the perimeter wire. There are a lot of people out there that want to shoot something to say that they shot something or to see how well that their weapons work.
Sure are a lot of people with the Mad Maxine Waters and Nancy Poo-loser attitude towards ABPTs here in his thread. today. Did Mad Maxine tell em to go out and confront sane people everywhere they seem ’em or something ?? I can hear Pelosi now….”We got to call for background checks and limit who buys what breed of dog and we need “more sensible dog laws”.IMPEACH APBTs !”
Are all you dog nazis against POTUS Trump too ? ROFLMAO
@Andy Buckmichael: Yep, yep! But part of that might not be legal.
(?’s) How many APB owners here have been bitten seriously by a dog?
Do pit owners get angry with other pit owners when bitten by the other guy’s dog?
we’re smart enough to know about what to do and what not to do around dogs that are unfamiliar with us. We understand the basics of animal behavior too ( all dogs are territorial animals and we know what dogs take as actions of aggression). maybe you should learn it too? FWIW I’ve never been bit by a Pit Bull. it’s the chiuauas, cocker spaniels and collies that I watch out for.
They are the number one dog to attack and the number one dog to be running the streets. Did the 82 year old woman that was just attacked in her own front yard by four Pits do something to cause them to attack her , No!!! Your comment about the other dogs is what all pit nutters say . You guys have all the same made up lies that no one believes. One out of 40 Pits will attack. That doesn’t mean they all will but that number is way too high. Higher than all other breeds put together. Something… Read more »
@Tionico: A FIVE STAR COMMENT! Right, right yes that has happen to me and so on.
@Schofield Kid: That just means shoot the dog, call the police put ankle, foot, wrist or hand in dog’s mouth. Lay there wounded until the police arrive. Problem solved! This is not a negative reply to you. “SK” Just a thought. Now on to these other asinine comments. If you own a pit. You know why you own a pit. Back when I was kid people were satisfied with the German Shepard and Doberman as guard dogs that obeyed to the point of fault. Everyone here KNOWS that pits came out of the thug attitude/behavior of the 80’s I was… Read more »
I understand that this would have been a scary situation. The author is right for not making eye contact as that can escalate a dog’s aggression level. It’s sad that pit bulls have become generalized and stereotyped all as dangerous dogs. To maintain the generalization that they are all bad is akin to saying a particular race should be considered ‘bad’ because they predominantly commit violent crimes etc. This belief is of course preposterous and illogical. We don’t hear any positive stories about pit bulls, only the negative ones, and therefore the media has contributed to the stereotype. It’s unfair… Read more »
I am a dog lover. However, I have a deep concern about the pit breeds because “I” have been one of their statistics. Even pit owners must recognize that their faith in the breed is not 100% justified. My neighborhood has pit bulls or AMST, I cannot fully distinguish. I was watching my daughter’s dog for two years and would walk the dog on a leash most days. House across the road had a female ‘pit’ bull that watched us through window and barked as we walked past. My dog was a female Black Mouth Cur from Tenn. brought up… Read more »
every example yours included has a bad or irresponsible owner at the root of it. there are no bad dogs just bad owners that cause a dog to not know how to behave.
No bad dogs? Unfortunately “good” pit bulls/bullies are intentionally bred to mature to attack family/their own kind, unprovoked and prolonged, even far from home, without first trying to avoid conflict. Sure, not all pits mature to become good dog killers but it’s cruel to continue to make more dog killing dogs. What trait could be worse if you care about dog welfare? Other dogs simply aren’t “good” at attacking and fighting to the death over NOTHING. Proof? The fact that all NA and UK dog fighters, the true experts of deadly psychopathic, suicidal gladiator dog aggression, all choose pits/bullies. While… Read more »
I disagree with your opinion/view of the breed. I have a fair amount of experience with the breed and I have never seen or heard from anyone I know with experience with the breed of a dog raised in a good loving environment becoming aggressive on its own. Every one I’m aware of can be traced back to bad upbringing, abuse,neglect, or purposely trained to be aggressive. I’m sure there are some instances of it but I’m sure that it happens in other breeds as well. Yes a pit can do more damage than most breeds if it goes after… Read more »
Let see…you talked with people who have spent years breeding and training and conditioning THEIR Pit Bulls to kill other dogs. Well hell, after all that training what did you expect the dog to do? Evidently you’re not the brightest crayon in the box .And that’s putting it nicely.
She also spent last night in a holiday inn.. so per the commercial that qualifies her as an expert…
@Debbie Bell, you forgot to mention in your diatribe that you personally have absolutely no experience in owning raising training or working with a pitbull? Why is that?
QOUTE:It did not attack, but did want to jump up and nip at my gloved hands as if to remove the gloves for some reason :QOUTE
he wanted you to play with him. They love to run too. Especially the ones contained on small yard in cities. All three of mine did/does both everyday. MY APBT is doing it right now, only he’s just standing there because I’m seated. It’s playtime.
They’re VERY energetic dogs. Not good to confined one in too small a place for very long. Or they’ll attemt to/get out.
Most states have stock laws that allow any owner or keeper of livestock to shoot/kill any dog who attacks, stalks, or harrasses livestock. If livestock are involved and any dog is on the private property where that livestock is kept, and the dog even causes the chickens to quickly walk the other way, that dog can be shot or otherwise killed, and no questions will be asked. If that is true for livestock, how much more so when humans are being attacked, stalked, harrassed, by any dog? Further, if the dog harms any livestock and gets shot and the owner… Read more »
Laws controlling drug use and firearm possession do not seem to solve the. Problems. Forgive me for doubting the effectiveness of more laws. I wonder how many crimes are prevented by dogs and how many lives are improved by them -:-Guide dogs for the blind, explosive detection dogs…..
It appears, much like in the gun culture, everybody is focused on the, “thing” rather than the human that is “supposed to be “responsible and accountable”? This works both ways, for the pet owner as well as the, “responsible adult” that is supposed to keep their eyes on their young so they do not wander off into danger with ANY dog, cat, squirrel, skunk or other critter… I would be unable to live beyond ALLOWING my babies to get mauled by ANY animal! https://www.opposingviews.com/category/dog-fighting-detroit-50000-stray-dogs-mostly-pit-bulls-roam-city-there If you will note in the above article, PITS were the, “animal of choice” amongst the… Read more »
A blanket blaming of parents is despicably low. You don’t know what happens in individual cases, but a lot of the ones I see the victim was minding their own business and got blindsided by some lowlife’s loose vicious dog. Your patheticly bald attempt to blame them is apparent to everyone, and clearly because you are interested in keeping blame off of the bred traits of the pit dog rather than keeping to the TRUTH.
And you know this to be true because you were actually there and witnessed each and every occurrace?
Where is a link to your FACTS and EVIDENCE?
As well, you must have been a hands on and experienced owner of a pit bull at one time?
Take a xanax and climb back under your bed. The sky is falling and you are out of your comfort zone!
I see MANY parents today that won’t even keep their kids away from the tv set of the home they’re visiting. Among other things. Hey, it’s YOUR kid, and YOUR responsibility to keep it out of a neighbor’s yard that owns dogs. The fences work to keep dogs in and PEOPLE OUT.
@Catherine Hobbs, I/we are still waiting for your reply… After all, YOU stated, “but a lot of the ones I see the victim was minding their own business and got blindsided by some lowlife’s loose vicious dog.” You make it appear as if all you do all day and all night is walk around all the neighborhoods everywhere where there’s a pit bull and follow it around until it attacks somebody and then you stand back in shock and awe, suffering the grief that should be on the shoulders of thI we attacked. I am giving you every opportunity in… Read more »
I say put a bullet in the dogs and the owners.
And people who aren’t bright enough to a lucid thought.
Just Saying
How dare you.
Rock, you might want to proofread and then proofread again when you’re using the words “aren’t bright enough” to describe others in a comment.
Just saying
Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I normally hate people being grammar nazi types on a comment thread. But if you’re going call others “not bright,” I think you ought to take the time to be careful. And for the record, I proofread this twice and I’m still wincing as I hit send. Fingers crossed.
go ahead and see that where takes you. I say you’ll win the Darwin Award, meaning you might not live to tell about it too.
What needs to happen is stricter laws for vicious dogs, and severe charges for dog owners who’s dogs attack and maul other pets and humans. Pit bulls are a plague on the nation, they kill more humans, pets and livestock than any other breed. Negligent, in denial owners that have no understanding of their breed cause so many problems, so much death and pain it’s insane.
Fine animal. I prefer Irish Wolfhounds but we all have our favorites. We lived with six in the house for many years. My favorite bitch was the trusted guardian of my young son. No one could harm him without dealing with 150 pounds of muscle and teeth but very gentle and the alpha of group. Only problem with the breed is instinct to chase. Unfortunate for cats who jumped my fence and local ground hogs.
Thanks for this article. I had a similar experience and almost died, and I was severely injured. I started carrying because if this threat. Your odds of getting attacked by a dog aren’t less than by a person (unless your a gang banger). FACT IS- Pits killed 8 Americans in 6 weeks this summer. Several adults lost their limb, and a bunch of kids lost scalps and faces in that same 6 weeks. Pits average a US fatailty every 12 days, and several people go to the ICU with disabling injuries every single day. This isn’t hidden, you can easily… Read more »
@EugeneMom, Care to re-check your “FACTS”? As well as your MATH? “FACT IS- Pits killed 8 Americans in 6 weeks this summer. Several adults lost their limb, and a bunch of kids lost scalps and faces in that same 6 weeks. (Please send us the FACT-ual REFRENCES to where you obtained this information?) Pits average a US fatailty every 12 days, and several people go to the ICU with disabling injuries every single day. This isn’t hidden, you can easily follow these stories (with pics) if you bother to look. (Please send us the links) I have noticed in each… Read more »
The people responsible for deaths of these dogs should be held answerable, and prosecuted to the full
extent of the law. Namely, THE OWNERS. They raise an animal with aggressive tendencies, then allow
these “pets” to wander the earth unattended. These dogs die because of THEIR inexcusable conduct.
Ridiculous. Pit bull owners should be charged for letting their dogs roam, and severe charges should be brought against pit owners whose dogs attack and maul humans and animals. You don;t train an instinct into or out of a dog, that;s the kind of ignorance that causes pit maulings every day, nationwide.
@SPARTACUS… Hmmm… Self indulgent to say the least? However, Genesis 6:6
And the LORD regretted that He had made man on the earth, and it grieved Him in His heart.
“Pit bull” is a bucket term for all breeds looking at least somewhat like the American or Staffordshire terrier. The fact is this bucket of dog breeds is responsible for the vast majority of serious/fatal attacks on humans. If you don’t believe me, look at the data. Certainly a much more dangerous breed in that regard. Denying this is an act of futility. I have met many, and most i have met are not what i consider dangerous. However, I have met some that I would consider loose cannons. These dogs were originally bred to leap up and grab livestock… Read more »
I got to admire the determination of the breed of people who can ignore evidence concerning pit bulls. Reminds me of my former neighbors.
“it’s not the dogs fault (or theirs apparently) that our 3yo puppy sent a 1st grader to the ER.”
“It’s your fault and your an evil person for shooting the same pitbull a week later when it charged you in your front yard with your kids.”
What responsible “parent” would allow their child(ren) to even get into a dangerous situation like that? Parents are supposed to be one or more steps ahead of ANY possibilities of ANY forms of danger when it comes to their child(ren). PERIOD!
https://www.coursehero.com/file/p4cd0rn/Is-it-because-they-werent-killed-by-pit-bulls-Aiden-McGrew-8-weeks-old/
Oh gee Greg, I know, how dare this “parent” be out on their front lawn with their children with the dangerous of a pit next door? How dare Ruby and Charlie Warfel’s “mother” help them out of their carseats? What are all these parents thinking, going about their lives like normal and not packing lead and looking over their shoulder every second for that neighborhood pit to come mauling? How dare they try to place blame for maulings on the criminally negligent owner and people who continue to breed pit dogs that cause the majority of severe level injuries as… Read more »
A good Pit Bull is a dead Pit Bull. If I had my way, I would rid the earth of these killers
Don’t forget the Rottweilers. They deserve our gifts of lead, too.
Stupidity is not a crime so you are free to go.
@Philip Van Cleave, perhaps one could shoot into the soft earth before shooting into a dog, that is putting the rush on for an unknown purpose. Sometimes missing is the cheap thing to do. If the dog (in my little hypothetical) becomes violent, then you could shoot him.
Perhaps maybe we humans are better killing machines because we are far higher in the hierarchy of life and better adapted. Should I be forced to kill your pet pit bull, pet polar bear, pet wolf, or pet shark, that simply means I won. Yes, killing machines like pit bulls should be shot when they decide to take on humans walking down the street.
@bear_d, Perhaps it also means that you have destroyed the property of another, and you will be put on your proof to avoid criminality and liability.
Unfortunately, no. Firing warning shots is CATEGORICALLY ILLEGAL in Va. Dogs, people, makes no difference. Fire a shot, you’re not aiming AT something, you’re facing charges.
Trust me, I WISH warming shots were an option!
@ Bob Sadtler: Who said anything about a warning shot. Don’t try to change what I wrote. I wrote “… missing…”. If one chooses a target, he should be aware of what is beyond, and the soft earth beyond ones target is a good place to miss into.
Actually, if you do that in most towns you will be charged for unsafe discharge of a firearm. You legally cannot do a warning shot. You have to either hold off or aim for your mark.
@Catherine H, I read your other comments. You, who would put your children out on the lawn of your property next to a presumptive dangerous situation, are a very poor lawyer. The law of trespass is not an effective defense against animal bite.
Catherine thinks that missing is unsafe, but accurately shooting a living thing is not unsafe. And apparently, she has made the definitive study of most towns. Is that globally or just in the US, Catherine?
Nor did I say anything about a warning shot.
Pit Bulls. Shoot first, ask questions later.
Hardwired to kill. Serve no useful purpose. The only thing more stupid is the owner.
What an outrageous comment.
You are clearly ignorant.
You’re an idiot. I live in Florida and it is illegal to let a dog run unleashed and unattended! I almost had to shoot 2 dogs, they wisely backed off. But, they weren’t Pit Bulls. The lady(from New York)called the Sheriff, the deputies set her right.
Chihuahuas no doubt?
I’ve been bit by chiushuas several times. They sneak up from behind & go for your hamstring FWIW.
@Rob, Perhaps you should read Ranson v. Kitner.
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As I have witnessed, a leash isn’t even enough at times with a very strong, muscular dog. All it takes is the owner holding it lightly as in an easy walk.. then this dog sees a cat or fast moving prey and takes off in a moment. The best remedy is a VERY strong, LEATHER or heavy corded leash, wrapped strong around the wrist and hand with added protection, a muzzle. Obviousy this takes a VERY responsible dog owner/handler to follow through with these safety steps. I wouldn’t dream of suggesting a dog running off leash should immediately obey a… Read more »
On a pit bull I highly recommend a double leather sewn HARNESS and a heavy duty leather or thick and wide nylon lease. It’s what I use. Collars only are useless to hold onto a pit bulls due to pit bull’s strength. I also recommend it on ANY large dog.
As I previously stated I had Dogo Argentino’s much stronger than a pit. All I used was a choke collar and leash he would stay by my side. It’s all about teaching a dog how to walk on a lead. If you need all that stuff and the dog is pulling you, you are not training the dog right. My last Dogo was 110 lbs and my girlfriends 8 yo daughter could walk him with no issue. And yes I was present when she walked him.
Hit any animal in the head and they are finished?. Try that with a grizzly bear, mbogo, rino, I could go on and on..
I have never met a pitbull that could not be calmed or tamed with the exception of one that was just flat-out stupid because the owner just put it in their yard as a puppy and never gave it any love, attention, training or even fed it properly for many years. I took a pit bull as a rescue that was bred for fighting. The previous owner having molested his step daughters went off to prison in the family could no longer afford to keep the dog. It was steak down on a log chain and a large collar that… Read more »
You are welcome to ignore the massive body of evidence that dogs (and many of them are pits) do attack people with sometimes fatal results.
Reaching out to pet a dog who’s demeanor is unknown is foolhardy. Your fatuous critique of the author does nothing to further your argument (back atcha). Keep reaching out to touch stray dogs and we’ll probably be reading about your injuries in the news.
Totally agree . My Olde English Bulldogge will hump you to death , and then lick you afterwards .
Without a doubt a dangerous breed. Pits have no other function than to attack and fight. I will kill your dangerous dog to protect myself and others. Dont like my statement? Keep your dangerous dog locked down.
sorry but you’re wrong about APBTs “having no other function than to attack and fight” APBTs are like any other dog…they protect/gaurd their yard (teriitory) against other dogs…sometimes. It depends on whether or not they consider it a threat. And actaully APBTs usually are not considered the best gaurd dog while other breeds are. Look it up . I’m currently on my 3rd APBT., and so far 25 yrs of APBT ownwership and going on my next 10 yrs or more. None of my APBTs ever attacked anyone, nor tried/attempted to. AAMOF one let a small child ride it’s back.… Read more »
my father had a female pit when i was 5 or 6 and it was my body gaurd. it went every where with me and watched over me almost like a… Nanny… i played gentle with it i played rough with it and i could ride it too when i was still small enough. i wrestled with it and it never did anything but lick me and want to play more. every bad pitbull or bad dog for that matter is the fault of the owner period! i know my experiance doesnt mean every dog is the same but they… Read more »
Pitbulls, raised properly, are no more aggressive than any other breed. Shooting a dog because of its reputation is both illegal and immoral. I agree that owners must control their pets, but your opinion is not backed by fact, and your knowledge of dogs is obviously very minimal.
No other function than to attack and fight? Really lol. It’s never the dog, it’s the owners lack of love and discipline. I adopted mine at nine weeks old. Gave him unconditional love and discipline, and training. When faced with needing a service dog I had a trainer come out to evaluate my pit and said I was eighty percent there. We trained twice a week for six months with the trainer. He is now my full time service dog. Not one time has he ever showed aggression. Hell he even plays with a frog on the lanai. So no… Read more »
I couldn’t help thinking, while reading this, about how it also applies to certain segments of the human population. Just another animal after all.
One thing on the rabies though, you can shoot an animal in the head and still have enough tissue in the brain to test or tissue further down the base of the skull. Besides, rabies shots are just a series of shots in the arm anymore. No more big needles in the stomach. As far as shooting it because you feared the dog? Well, although you may not be charged; you will most likely be sued by the dog owner. It’s sad to say, but whoever said you should wait for the bite was right; unless you’re not worried about… Read more »
Regarding your closing statement, I was told the same by a cop very recently; best to allow a bite before shooting, for your own legal protection.
I do not agree with all the actions in this situation. Any large animal off leash especially a pit bull that has been allowed to roam free would have been put down without a handler nearby taking immediate action. I would consider it more negligent to let it to continue roaming only to cause harm later. Did inform Animal Control? Would you feel the same for pet tigers or lions roaming freely? Pet owners should keep this mind. Not everyone will ignore the ROE to take the chance that no harm will be done. Put them on a leash, confine… Read more »
Do you advocate killing any mule or bull who gets out or any wild animal who wonders out of the woods? Ever bitten or kicked by a mule or get near a bull. Probable not. Animals in strange environments may lash out just as armed humans who break down in a ghetto may feel threatened because of their lack of experience. I have been in contact with large breeds for many years and only bitten once –Saint Bernard–and it was my fault. No excuse for killing based on assumptions rather than knowledge.
The new saying used by pit bull advocates is “every dog is an individual.” Sadly, the far older saying of “what’s bred in the bone, comes out in the flesh” has proven to be truer when it comes to their animals. Breed is absolutely an important indicator of whether a dog might be involved in an aggressive incident, and of whether the animal will pose a danger to the community. Like many varieties of plants and breeds of animals, all dog breeds are essentially human-made creations, the result of patient repeated selection to achieve desired traits/ characteristics for certain tasks.… Read more »
Awesome write up, wow!!
What?
Great summary of the chats teristics of the bully breeds. Too few people respect genetics. So many pit types have killed their caretakers, people who have only cared for and given them love. These dogs were selectively bred for a purpose that is illegal in most areas. There is no longer any purpose to breed them.
Tia Torres can suck an egg! I took my Pit to a dog park and the ONLY threat was a drunk dumbass that was staggering around in the leash/unleash gates entering the park. This idiot left the park side of the gate open while a couple was bringing their two dogs in, allowing my Pit access to that area, while the drunkard stumbled over my Pit causing a scramble with the two incoming dogs. In retrospect, should I have shot the,drunk for causing the hazzardous situation? And to the author, WTF does it matter what make and model firearm you… Read more »
Excellent post William!
You are a complete lefty idiot! Every article and court reference you have made is completely bias, they are specifically out to ban bully breeds. Pits are in 33’d place on the bite list. You should try looking up .gov sites, thats where your truth will be, not in biased leftist based articles.
Lol I’m sure you are well aware the cdc no longer tracks breed in their bite data, so please, enlighten us with what google “source” you got that from? There are, however, plenty of published peer reviewed studies showing pits cause the majority of severe level injuries, from the likes of CHOP, Mayo/Phoenix Children’s, Harborview Medical, Atlanta Children’s, etc. Like your sources, these studies can easily be Googled. But they are actually fact:-p
William, don’t forget another wonderful PRIMARY source of information, the books on the APBT written by the Colby family, their true fighting history is laid out for all to see, none of that nanny nonsense. Also, Diane Jessups, a REAL breed expert who cowrote a book with one of the Colbys, has a library detailing the dogs history and how the AmStaff and other “separate breeds” are actually derived from the same stock of fighting dogs as the pit and are just as dangerous.
The creator of the modern pitbull was John P. Colby, and one of his dogs killed his 2-year-old nephew, Bert Colby Leadbetter, in 1909. Another of his dogs was killed by police after it mauled a little boy in 1906.
Willian, the quote you gave is slightly off…it’s: What is bred in the bone will not come out of the flesh. ~ Daniel DeFoe It’s generally take two ways, both correct: – what is born in the bone (genetically) will not come out of the flesh (genetically won’t go away—you get your traits from your parents, you give ‘em to your kids). Of course, given that your genetics are only half of your kids, traits can be enhanced or diluted, and again with each subsequent generation. – what you have genetically (your innate characteristics) can’t be just removed out of… Read more »
do not worry – your chance will come again. some no-responsibility clown will let one out or off the leash – then whine about the predictable result after it attacks
So pitbulls are vicious and attack everyone.Thats like saying every nigger just makes kids and collects welfare.
Most of you are idiots. Ive seen more attacks by other dogs and most people call them pits (mainstream media) when they usually are a mix or Rot or lab. The owners that make any dog mean are the ones that need to be shot (and yes thats my opinion). I thought Ammoland was conservative but seems like this article is left leaning. Stick to firearms, and politically related issues, not your personal opinion on something mainstream has brain washed you into thinking. Next I’ll probably be reading an article on how apple is superior to Samsung or something along… Read more »
Dalmatians used to bite people more than any other breed
Dalmatians were used as pit dogs but to kill rats, not maul and dismember dogs. They were used to guard coaches and wagons, again a bite and release. Normal dogs bite to make you leave. They let go so you can leave. Good pits attack and don’t let go. Pits were bred to attack unprovoked and prolonged, to “kill or die trying”. They were bred to kill their own family, for no reason at all. Many game pits have died in kennel accidents when one escaped and killed its neighbor, without any reason other than centuries of selective breeding to… Read more »
Debbie Bell you are one misinformed female, especially when it comes to Pit bulls. Your post is complete lies and propaganda/your uninformed views The dogs in an illegal dog fight don’t fight because they want to in a dog fight. They fight because they’re forced to by cruel DISPICABLE.”humans” who merely wish to make money off the dog. You know, like a professional boxing match between humans, only for dogs with no rules. You really should watch Pit Bulls and Parolees on cable TV, if you want to learn how Pit Bulls are inhumanly treated by people. Also “The Dog… Read more »
FWIW Pit Bull terriers were originally bred to chase the rodents in the castles in England back in that time.. A pit bull is, pound for pound a very strong breed of dog with exceedling great jaw pressure for it’s size It is best not to tease, aggravate or piss one off. FWIW ANY dog will bite you given the right circumstances., and bad behavior on YOUR part. And those circumstances are much more common than you will believe (because you’re uninformed) You need to read up on the basics of animal behavior and how to behave around a dog… Read more »
No one here condones nor supports illegal dog fighting (it’s illegal in the USA as is cock fighting) I despise those who participate in dog fights. It’s cruel to the dogs. You’re the one that brought it up I notice. We own APBTs for protecting our property and loved ones against criminal intruders and wild animals such as coyotes. Yep I have coyotes come into our yard in a suburban area. They attack the fawns and weak deer (yep I have 9 to 15 deer at the edge and in my backyard in the evening as I feed them daily.… Read more »
@db, What you portray as facts have the ring of disinformation that people just make up to win informal arguments (e.g. “Many game pits have died in kennel accidents when one escaped and killed its neighbor, without any reason other than … ” ) How could you know that there were no other reason in these many incidents? If there were so many then it should not be difficult to list a few with particularity.
The term pit bull is applied to several breeds of dogs. There may be some lineages of some breeds that are just pure out of control killers. Others are wonderful companion dogs. All have been bred for gameness, i/e., unwillingness to admit they’re whupped. Only a minority of pit bulls and pit terriers are bred by fighters. If you own one play fetch and frisbee a lot, if it likes water let it “help” you water the yard, encourage it to act like a lap dog, and be aware that they live to demonstrate affection with the enthusiasm they have… Read more »
Pitbulls was bred to bull bait after it was outlawed they were turned to fighting by dog men its history but they was bred for absolute no human aggression look up and see how many dog mens familys was killed or dog men themself. Most people who claimed to have a pitbull got it from the shelter or for free off of Craigslist no paper no line noting to show and they say how amazing they are with cats an all its a lie it don’t happen with kids yes I believe it other animals is another story I have… Read more »
Oh my, we have a would-be moderator here! Trying to stifle our free speech. Go away ANTIFA bag of shit.
i would figure people on a website where the unfair rep guns get in the media and the uninformed would maybe apply the same logic when other things are demonized in the press. based on the comments here i guess not. do pitbulls bite…yes but no more than other dogs. i havnt looked at stats in awhile but labs and a few other common breeds always led pits in amount of bites. almost every case of a pitbull seriously hurting someone can be put back on the owner. there are good and bad dog owners just like gun owners. more… Read more »
Perhaps we should kill all polar bears, wolves on sight because they are killing machines. Mother nature gets rid of the unsuccessful at killing.
I would if some fool brought it to my neighborhood to keep as a “pet”!
Please do not leave your neighborhood or take the family to national park where there are wild animals like bears or wolves. Ranchers kill both but not out of irrational fear.
Ray
either a troll or a crazyman who values animals above humans.
Those critters you named ONLY kill to feed themselves and families. If pit bulls ONLY did that, we could relax, as most folks who own those dogs feed them on a fairly regular basis.
You have used the false equivalency of the whole from a part, thus you have committed a serious logic fail.
You seem to have little knowledge of animal behavior. Bears kill people in our parks and not for food. Females protect their cubs. e Males protect their breeding territory even to the point of killing cubs not genetically related to them. Cats play with their kills.
The problem is that few people, even among animal control or shelter personnel can reliably identify a pit bull. AKC doesnt recognize such a breed and there are not configurstion standards. So the primary ID characyeristic is that they are presumed to be biters, therefore any dog that bites is a pit bull. Up until about 1970 or so the dog most likely to bite was th Cocker Spaniel. around 1970 the first pit bul bite was recorded in the US. Then dog fights were a big thing in the press along with dogs used by gang bangers and druggies… Read more »
Google “nanny dog”. You will see pics of pit bulls and their kids. What has changed in 100 yrs? First, as horrible as dog fighting was, any human aggression by a “game bred” pitbull was immediately and lethally dealt with. It wasn’t tolerated Now, jump to the early 80’s. Gangs and thugs wanted a dog to “front”. A bad looking dog they could use to protect , attack and project their image. They got this by breeding pit bulls to Neapolitan mastiffs. That is where the pitbull changed from a 35-45 lb terrier appearing dog, to the 65 to over… Read more »
They were NEVER nanny dogs, so that myth needs to die off . The hard wiring in these dogs is sick and unpredictable. What breed of animal is bred to over ride it’s own sense of self preservation?
Good post Mike!
Females that can talk or text.
Lol skip and Mike, where did you get your “facts”? First off, yes there are conformation standards, the AKC is not the only breed registry in the world, the UKC has an APBT registry with standards, and started their book way before the AKC years later finally accepted pits under the nicer name of Staffordshire Terrier. Second, show proof that you didn’t just pull the Cocker bite “fact” out of your a$$, because I have heard from pit nuts every scenario under the sun. “Labs bite the most.” “Shepherds bite the most.” “Poodles bite the most”. Back it up or… Read more »
Bunch of pansies and cat people on here apparently. I think fear of dogs should be added to the nics background check disqualifying issues! Some of these responses definitely rise to that “irrational” level.
Lol you hate people who don’t like your neanderthal breed of choice, yet denigrate people who like cats? Nice consistency thereXD. Maybe we can get a coalition of cat and Chihuahua “nutters” to start harassing pit nutters.
Good God this is total garbage. It was written by a moron. First, to make a judgment with just appearance is stupid. Take this and turn it into a Modern Sporting Rifle and see how intelligent it is. It “looks” scary, so it must be dangerous. Wow. I have never seen a mean Pit. Every one has been very nice, personable, and not at all violent. Some of you above are just morons. If this idiot was concerned about the baby and mom, he would have grabbed the attention of the dog and kept them safe. Instead he decided to… Read more »
Agreed. And this erroneous slander and denigration of the APBT breed is always perpetrated by people who have never even owned one, and are totally uneducated about APBTs or even dogs in general it appears.. I raised one from age 5 wks old, he lived 15 yrs (my vet told me he was oldest living APBT he’d ever encounted), my 2nd one I got at age just over one yr old, I rescued him as his owner moved and couldn’t take him with him,(my liberal socialist democrat neighbor poisoned him GRRR) and currently rasing my 3rd from age 5 wks… Read more »
Spanky and Alfalfa hated all the “Petey” dogs used in Little Rascals because those pits we’re constantly biting them. Read their biographies. And Patton’s dog was not an APBT.
https://www.google.com/search?q=general+patton+with+his+pit+bull&rlz=1C1OKWM_enUS780US780&oq=general+patton+with+his+pit+bull&aqs=chrome..69i57.9871j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Are bull terriers related to pit bulls? “Any dog in the bully breed can be classified as a pit bull, and all are derived from dogs that were originally a cross between some type of bulldog and a terrier. The American Kennel Club does not recognize the American Pit Bull Terrier, but does acknowledge a very similar breed, the Staffordshire terrier.” There you go. General Patton owned a Bull Terrier he named Willie. FWIW this is what the purest of the breed looks like. And if Petey bit all the actors of “The Little Rascals” how come they’re not… Read more »
Bull terrier is a breed similar to pit bull, in fact, ancestral to pit bulls. See movie It’s a Dogs life.
Good for you, every one I have ever encountered was mean, and I have almost been attacked several times. I don’t hate the breed, they are merely what we bred them to be, but I hate the people who breed them and the lowlife’s who defend them as safe housepets.
You should thank God it was not an angry Dogo Argentino, bigger than a pit more muscular and faster. You never would have stood a chance. Overall they are excellent family dogs with excellent temperament until you screw with the owner or family. Break in the house and you won’t get out, at least whole.
imagine the soiled underwear if they ever saw a Canne Corso or a Pressa Canario…. basically an 150 to 180lb pitbull but even more loyal and loving when raised in a loving home..
Repo yes they are amazing dogs but a Dogo is second only to a greyhound in speed.
ive only seen the Dogo in pics and on tv when animal planet did a 10 minute segment on them. seem like a great dog and would love to meet one in person one day.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/woman-killed-by-her-own-dog-was-engaged-to-a-k-9-officer/65-566754313
Woman killed by her own dog was engaged to a K-9 officer
The couple lived together with a breeding pair of large Dogo Argentino dogs, one of which attacked Jenna Sutphin. The dogs were pets and did not work with the officer.
I’m sorry as much as I love animals… your dog bites me more than once/or and doesn’t let go. It’s dead! I have a limitation on bites, maul/mauling and/or preparing to bite (dog or pet) mite be bit??? If if you believe a pet dog or whatever restrain it or suffer the consequences, to both owners and/or victims.