Third Circuit Tells Gun Owners They Must Turn In Gun Magazines, Will You Comply

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Third Circuit Tells Gun Owners They Must Turn In Their Gun Magazines, Will You Comply?

New Jersey – -(AmmoLand.com)- December 5, 2018. In a 2-1 decision, a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit refused to stop the enforcement of New Jersey’s 10-round magazine ban.

The majority, in an opinion by Judge Shwartz and joined by Judge Greenaway, both appointed by President Obama, held that the ban did not violate the Second Amendment because it reasonably advanced the State’s interest in reducing mass shootings without severely burdening the rights of law-abiding citizens.

Read the Third Circuit decision here.

Third Circuit Opinion on New Jersey Democrats Gun Mag Ban

Judge Bibas, appointed by President Trump, authored a forceful dissent, pointing out that the majority refused to apply standard constitutional principles to the case and instead treated the Second Amendment differently than any other constitutional right.

Judge Bibas observed: “The Second Amendment is an equal part of the Bill of Rights. We must treat the right to keep and bear arms like other enumerated rights, as the Supreme Court insisted in [District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008)].”

He rejected what he termed the majority’s “watered down“ approach to the Second Amendment.

Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs intends to appeal the decision.

In the meanwhile, the last day for gun owners to comply with the mag ban law is December 10, 2018. Failure to comply by the deadline is a 4th degree crime that could result in fines and imprisonment for each non-compliant magazine, in addition to loss of gun rights nationwide.

Last week, Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs issued detailed guidance to gun owners about compliance with the mag ban law, including non-obvious, lawful ways for law-abiding gun owners to keep owning magazines between 11-15 rounds without modifying or destroying them. Click here for ANJRPC’s guide to compliance with the ban.

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Frank Liso

I sent mine to South Carolina to my son. SCREW NJ.

Jonathan G

You, sir, are also welcome here in South Carolina any time!

AZ DONALD

unfortunately, that doesn’t do anything to fight the illegal law.
NJ still won…. smh

Ron

Author: Hank
Comment:
My wife asked me to kiss her where it stinks, so I drove her to New Jersey. Couldn’t leave fast enough.

Great!!!! Good one!!!!!!

Hank

My wife asked me to kiss her where it stinks, so I drove her to New Jersey. Couldn’t leave fast enough.

TheHolyCrow

@Cliffalling….And make sure you and yours bend over on the kitchen table for your cavity exams. You all might have a bazooka or two hidden up there, and they just want to make sure, for the safety of the children, of course. Nothing personal, you understand. (maybe you should read up on Solzenitzen and the last time the Bolsheviks went marauding). BTW, he has another not so well known book named “Two Hundred Years Together”. It’s banned in the USA, by the Bolsheviks who came mostly from New York Sh*tty.

Tom B Stone

If people have the ability to fight back and are either overwhelmed or too cowardly to do so effectively, does removing their ability to do so seem like a better way to face a terrorist? Your logic is non-existent, and compliance with such restrictions gives a power-grabbing government more incentive to disarm the citizenry. There are millions of us who can and will reduce the body counts hoped for by terrorists, but only if we hold on to our Second Amendment RIGHT to do so.

willy d

; You are right to sit back and review the statements on these blobs, they are fun to read and sometimes you can hear the frustration in why nothing is being done about it ! On this sight we do get to see from calm to off the deep end, but it is entertaining to read, that the base still loves and is still willing to defend this country, remember that oath we took never expires !!!!!!!!!!!!

Deplorable Bill

Sooner or later it is going to come down to civil disobedience–or worse. Things like these are exactly how and why the FIRST war of independence got started. When the colonials would not hand over their arms the Britts marched out to take them at Concord. Look it up for yourselves. Good, righteous, armed people are the only hope against armed evil people. The gun is not evil, neither is the magazine and neither is the ammo. Evil people are evil. To disarm the people is to make another gun free zone. Gun free zones, though well intended, are only… Read more »

W Mungro

Check your facts, there was a Sheriff Officer at Colobine and Vegas hey what about the flory nightclub several officers were there. Dallas , open carry numerous people had weapons and so did all of the Officers. Stop with all of the if this and if they had. The First Officer on the scene a few weeks ago in California was shot by the California Highwa y Patrol. All of that is just talking points. Just don’t go where you don’t like their laws

Deplorable Bill

The ONLY chance is that there IS an armed good guy who is WILLING to put a stop to evil. Cops are there to protect and serve? Or just write tickets and line their and their counties pockets? I don’t and nobody should leave where they are to go looking for greener pastures where the 2nd amendment is still law. People that do might want to look for another country that is freer. Good luck.

RD Lankes

Dear Bill,
Thank you for your very thoughtful posting.
My response to these Criminal Bastards, is F**k You! Strong letter to follow.
RD Lankes
Captain, USMC (retired)
Totally and permanently disabled.
CRSC recipient

Hubcap

Thank you sir for your service.

Oldmariine

Oldmarine >>> The Green Watch Dog Let them say what they want. It may rub you the wrong way but it is quit normal. Correcting someones language in any way means you haven’t thought about the reaction , sort of like lighting a fuse. I try to look at most things from at least 4 points of view. One of those views can be very dangerous. When you least expect it go off in your fact like a booby trap. The language that offends you comes from frustration, anger and emotional feelings that are suppressed. Bad language can be dangerous,… Read more »

Craig

New Jersey State Police STILL follows the orders of the communist democrat ex-Governor James Florio, to wit, “If you see an out of state vehicle pulling a trailer, pull it over and search it for guns. If the guns are not allowed in New Jersey, seize their property and jail them”. The New Jersey State Police have waited at Airports to arrest returning veterans, who STILL languish in their jails, because the vets wife travelled through communist New Jersey with New Jersey banned guns, while moving to new duty site. There is a federal gun law ALLOWING people to travel… Read more »

W Mungro

I carry my gun every day and I travel thru Jersey at least 3 times a week. I support the 2ndAmendment and I support States Rights. Jersey never said I can’t carry my gun they are just stating how in their State. If you have a problem with them just don’t go thru NJ simple as that. They aren’t violating anyone’s rights

Robert Messmer

If New Jersey imposes any restrictions other than those stated in the 2nd Amendment (none), then yes they are violating everyone’s rights.

Ron

Yep. But you have to know ‘how to transport ‘a firearm in and thru NJ. You have to have the firearm locked in a case and the ammo locked in a separate case. No stops but for gas. If you have been carrying a weapon while in Jersey as you state…you may want to reevaluate your procedures. Remember the poor lady (with a cwp from PA) who went to Jersey
Thinking she was a law abiding citizen? Her life was turned Topsy- turvy. Gov. Christy finally gave her a pardon. A bit too late for her job etc. Be careful!!!

The Revelator

Backstory Ladies and Gentlemen, prior to December 7th 2018, a commentor known as “Ron” got in an argument on this article(Linked Below) because he felt his opinion should replace facts. He lost the argument in glorious fashion. On December the 7th, he launched into a tirade about how no one was talking about Pearl Harbor even as we remembered with our families. He then attempted to use the deaths of the men and women at pearl harbor to attack those that had previously embarrassed him during his argument. Let this be a record of that until he issues a public… Read more »

robert jenkkins

Mungro, you got some real mental problems right there.
And seems like your answer for every single violation of gun rights is just to tell people not to go to that state. One, it’s not nearly as simple as you make it out to be, and two, this is the USA. So, we have the Second Amendment in ALL states.
People shouldn’t have to move all over this country, just to have free exercise of their rights.

Mungro

No you don’t have to but States make their own laws and carrying a handgun in any state is not a right ,only owning one is. Mental problems (naw) that’s why I can carry. If you have to go outside the conversation basics and make such statements about me without knowing me then good luck in your anger.

JoeUSooner

only “owning” (not carrying) a gun is a right???? Where the hell did you get THAT ridiculously stupid idea? And why restrict the conversation to handguns? The Founders were ALL adamant in their insistence that citizens do legally have (and must continue to have) access to arms specifically “suitable for war.” The Constitution (including the Bill of Rights) which defines (enumerates) both federal and state powers, certainly overrides state law. The natural, God-given right to self-defense does NOT stop at your own front door… it applies to any location where you may legally go (the Supreme Court has twice affirmed… Read more »

Mungro

By the Why What Right of yours is N. J. violating. Be Specific

Heed the Call-up

Mungro, so if a state writes a law stating I can enslave you, that’s okay because it’s their law? It would be a violation of your rights, same as any law that infringes on the RKBA. Many states even have similar wording as the federal 2A in their constitutions, which means they are also violating their own constitution when they create these laws – New jersey isn’t one of those. However, this is part of their constitution: “All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain natural and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending… Read more »

Jack Mac

If a state government violates anybody’s rights it violates everybody’s.
We should enjoy the freedom of travel through our country. Some states make this unenjoyable. You be careful entering NJ, and others near by plus CA, avoid IL on your way. Canada and Mexico will arrest you at the border best leave your car on the US side. Those are not our country are they.

Just be careful

Ron

Author: Mark
Comment:
I made a mistake in assuming Joseph Greenway Jr was Jewish. I apologize

No need to. What is….is. his sentiments still reflect what he thinks.
People have to STOP apologizing for offending jews or anybody for that matter. Take pride in your own heritage or race.
Do not humble yourselves for the fear of offending. Don’t ya’s care for your children,grand etc?

willy d

@grizzman; Right on, Perfect statement, should be carried out ! There are 2 in Pa that murdered a friend of mine in 1996, they are still on Death Row 22 years later and the state has a Demo-Rat governor that won’t sign the paperwork to get rid of this scum or any of the other scum also sitting there, So my thoughts are Don’t Any Bleeding Hearts Tell Me That They Have Any Rights !!!!!!!!!!! NON NODDA JUST GET RID OF THEM !!!!!!!!!!! My friend has been gone for 22 years and that scum is still here !!!! My idea… Read more »

grizzman1

I am truly sorry for the loss of your friend! They should have been put to death within a max of 10 years to clear the 2 courts you mentioned! I actually believe 5 years is more than enough time for the cockroaches to be executed! If they have video as proof, max 1 year till they are put to death! If DNA is proof, 1 year and 1 day max! I live in Virginia now, but Detroit was my home town for 35 years. Born in 1951 I watched the city decay very fast after the 1967 Riots! My… Read more »

Capndad

What does “in addition loss of gun rights nationwide.” mean?

Koolhed

WORDS written by a WEASEL:

QUOTE: “…because it reasonably advanced the State’s interest in reducing mass shootings without severely burdening the rights of law-abiding citizens.”

TheHolyCrow

There are 22 judges who sit on the Court of Appeals for the Third District, from whence these 2 bird brains come from. How come they get to make law for the rest of us, especially since one of them, Greenaway, wasn’t even born in the USA. That TRAITOROUS POS was born in London, UK ! He’s a GD LOYALIST who infiltrated himself here on the affirmative action commie program.

grizzman1

Gun control doesn’t work, just look at how well the criminals in Chicago obey the gun laws. Gun control that would really work would be, if you use a gun for any crime, you go to prison for life! You’d get no visitors, TV, Magazines or books, radio, coffee, work out rooms, etc…! That’s just to name a few things you’d never get again, because you’d get nothing but the gruel for food! The only time you’d get a visitor would be when you’re on the way for your death penalty to be enforced! You’d be put in a stainless… Read more »

JoeUSooner

I’d rather take General George Patton’s advice… make the other son-of-a-bitch die for HIS cause! Sounds like a world-class idea to me…

keith

grizzman1,
I read your thoughts on dealing with criminals and found a warm glow spreading through my old heart. Thank you. I have passed your comments onto several of my mates and we all came to roughly the same conclusions.
1. Make you the attorney general for the US so you can make this law and
2. If you ever make it to Australia you have a place at our dinner tables.

DaveW

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is required, according to our Founding Fathers, whenever the government violates the constitutional rights of the people.

Following WW1, tons of arms were stashed away in France and other nations. When WW2 erupted, resistance groups brought those weapons out of storage and used them against Germany.

Oldmariine

Oldmarine
The Association of New Jersey Rifle & Pistol Clubs needs to go after the Judge for a Perjury violation of his Oath of Office. He swore to protect the Constitution but instead committed a Treasonous act. The people can hold the Judge responsible for Illegal actions. If citizens don’t do anything about Public Servant’s violations then the union will fall. The futures belongs to us only if we are willing to honor the Constitution.

keith

Well put.
More elected officials who swear to uphold the constitution should be charged with treason when they break that oath.
Execute a few and watch the behavior of the rest change when they realize that they are there to carry out the will of the people. NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND!

The Green Watch Dog

I think you and others really need to reflect on the vulgarity of your statements. As you apparently do not agree with recent enacted laws in some of our states, this does not give you permission to advertise insanity.

Bryan

Well said..

Heed the Call-up

TGWD, where is the vulgarity in his post? Kieth is addressing the issue of treason and punishment under Constitutional law.

JoeUSooner

All citizens damnably-well DO have the permission (and the duty!) to identify – and to actively oppose (with violence, if necessary) – any outright attempts by political Leftists to destroy the Constitution and/or to change this nation from its current Constitutional Republic status (as specifically designed by the Founders) into a socialist regime. Every citizen who has served in the military has the additional specific duty, imposed by his/her solemn oath, to support and defend that Constitution… an oath that has no expiration date, no “sunset clause,” and lasts for the rest of their lives. If you consider that patriotism… Read more »

Oldmariine

Oldmarine >>> The Green Watch Dog Your Opinion of vulgarity Just doesn’t just fit the description as stated in the dictionary, but your answer fits it pretty well. It appears that you approve of the actions against the Constitution. As I have said many times before there are at least four ways to look at any situation and all are right to some degree. The reality is that some of those views are completely dangerous to The Life and Liberty of people struggling to have a life of worthwhile. The most dangerous threat existing in our citizenry is the silent… Read more »

The green Watch Dog

I’m not concerned that a big, mean and ugly government lady (or man) is going to get me and my six shooter. Same goes for ones that own high capacity magazines. No worries American friends! We are all neighbors and regardless of what political affiliation we belong to, we can enjoy our freedom to own arms. On the future horizon it is not going to be like the smoke from that torpedo.

Jamed

You’ll spew your garbage pretty much anywhere.

Will Flatt

When you say ‘regardless of party affiliation’, I presume you refer to your membership in the Snivel & Cower Party. An infringement in one respect is an infringement on us all!

Jacob Tothe

I don’t live in NJ, so my commentary is necessarily somewhat divorced from the local issues, but consider this. Slavery was “legal” for decades, and it was “illegal” to be, or to aid, a runaway slave. Remember that any time you would ever use legality or court decisions to justify any argument, even one with which you might otherwise agree. Mag bans are no less or more justifiable than the 1934, 1968, and 1986 gun control acts, Clinton’s gun ban, or Trump’s proposed bans on bump stocks. Even if you think bump stocks are overpriced useless rangenl toys (and they… Read more »

Roy D.

I remember being told in Basic Training that we had a duty to not obey an illegal or immoral order. I also have no obligation to obey an illegal or immoral law.

Buddy Rich

According to Marbury vs Madison, ANY Ruling or “Law” that goes against the constitution IS NOT A (VALID) LAW & is not to be obeyed, at all! Period! THIS is the Law on unconstitutional new “Laws”. THAT so-called Law is no Law at all.

Rattlerjake

Article VI of the Constitution states that the ‘Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof… shall be the Supreme Law of the Land.’ This is known as the Supremacy Clause. The Supremacy Clause prohibits state governments from passing laws that conflict with federal laws and also prohibits any entity from enforcing laws that conflict with the Constitution.

Don

USMC Retired Dec/17/1968—June/17/1974– I resist force with force I swore an oath and I will stand until I fall.

TAZ

SEMPER FI, MARINE!!! I HAVE NEVER BEEN RELIEVED OF MY OATH TO THE CONSTITUTION, AND I WILL DEFEND IT TO THE DEATH, BUT, BY THE GOOD LORD, I WILL TAKE AS MANY OF THESE COMMUNIST A55HOLES OUT OF EXISTENCE WHEN THEY TRY TO TAKE MY FIREARMS…. THEY BETTER BRING A TON OF BODY BAGS, IF THEY TRY IT HERE IN TEXAS!!! THEY’RE GONNA NEED THEM FOR THEMSELVES. THIS JUST MAY BE THE SECOND SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD, ONE THAT STARTS THE SECOND REVOLUTION, AGAINST THE COMMUNIST FORCES, INFILTRATING THE REPUBLIC OF AMERICA!!!! COME AND TAKE TAKE THEM, COMMIES… I… Read more »

Oldmariine

Oldmarine >>>> TAZ
If more people were like you I don’t think there would would be all of these UN-American people around. I mainly blame this generations inadequacies on the parents for not do their job and not teaching their kids about the America they live in. So sad because the kids will suffer the most. We still have a lot of good kids but mostly from rual areas that learn the value and respect that this country deserves. OORAH

Bryan

I am old Army and you all sound like raving lunatics..

Bryan

Taz,had a dog named taz,,adored him. Quit shouting,

JoeUSooner

This ex-Army “ground-pounder” (Aug1968 – September1972) will stand with you! It is heartening to see that most of us veterans do, indeed, understand our oath – and the moral imperative of upholding it (as well as knowing that the oath has no expiration date).

willy d

Send those 2 judges to pick mine up and I will gladly give them to them once they are M/T !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boz

Come and MAKE me!!! Your piece of paper doesn’t mean shlt!

willy d

The big problem in NJ is that the flock of sheep keep putting these Demo-Rats back in office and to stupid to see it!!!!!!! The Demo-Rats keep saying that they are smarter than us and know what is right for us, NJ only goes to prove it!!!!!!!!!!This only proves that the Plague is spreading rapidly and has to be destroyed at all cost or we all will be mindless Zombies that they are promoting on TV!!!!!!!!!!! Also I think a large amount of body bags should be ordered and stock piled, because it should be noted as to HELL NO… Read more »

D. Alighien

“Poison the cities’ water source and the revolution is over.” Machiavelli

Robert Messmer

I am not a resident of New Jersey so I have a question. Does New Jersey require all magazines to be registered? If there is no magazine registry how would anyone know who has the newly offending magazines? Are the New Jersey local police departments in the habit of conducting unannounced warrantless raids to determine if a particular person has high capacity magazines?

Anthony Mueller

Hell Fucking “NO”,….. I am an “American Army Veteran of the 82nd Airborne Division”,…. I took an Oath to my Country to Defend our Constitution being overseas or on OUR own soil,…. if we read the role 2nd Admendment, we have the right to own and organize militia groups to keep our country from being run by “Tryants”,….. I am a Southern Gentleman living in Southern State,….. we all own Weapons and majority of us have our “Conceal & Carry Permits” which were Legally adtained…… God Bless America and President Trump

SpiritOfSeventySix

I’m from NJ and I have a gun permit, a carry permit, and a concealed carry permit. It’s all rolled up in one document called the Second Ammendment. I laugh at these petty tyrants who think I have to get their permission. Those pieces of dog poop forget about the Supremacy Clause, on purpose, and they can go to hell. I have many ancestors who shed blood and treasure during the Revolution War, and one of them was with the group that brought in The TRAITOR, Benedict Arnold. So they can all just go to hell. I would love to… Read more »

AZOCAllDay

God damn that sucks, Im in AZ. No permits needed for anything. Concealed, Open carry, 100rnd drum mags. We also have lower crime than New Jersey go figure.

Ringo

U still have the stste constitution n this what they are doing is not by rule of law n ex post fact which doesnt amount to a hill of beans it is not worth the paper it is wrote on they like to pull the wool over the sheeps eyes n the sheep do not know any better.

Rattlerjake

So these judges think that “shall NOT be infringed” means you can infringe all you want as long as it doesn’t infringe too much? This just shows that leftists are dumber than dirt and don’t care about our Constitution or rights!

PostmanBLM

So, it has been illegal to possess a magazine that holds more than 15 rounds for the last 28 years and not one single court challenge has over-turned that law?

And now, the Ammoland Brain Trust thinks they are going to successfully over-turn this new ‘over 10 round’ ban?

Good Lord you nitwits… get a timer to remind you to take your meds on a regular basis! Your schizophrenia and psychosis can actually held at bay if you just take your meds EVERY DAY!

Wild Bill

@Postman, Longevity has nothing to do with Constitutionality.

Andy

@PostmanBLM Who’s a nitwit?
Are you a licensed doctor with pharmaceutical prescribing rights?
Prescribing drugs is illegal without a license.
Who’s a nitwit?

Bryan

Well said..again. Ammoland brain trust,thank you! I needed that after reading this seething with hate garbage.

Nathan Hale

Why would you “turn in” any high capacity magazine when they are the easiest part of a firearm to , hide, cache, conceal or keep out of sight…… until needed.

Robert

HELL NO !

SuperG

Sad to see this come about. It’s a law based on ignorance. But unless you have a war chest of cash, you can’t fight this and win, so it is best to knuckle under for the now. A civil war is brewing, and it won’t be fought along racial lines, but by people supporting the Constitution. New Jersey government entities would be some of the likely targets as a guess. The federal government has abandoned its citizens in that state, and therefore the people will have to rally. I hope I am wrong, but I know the people can only… Read more »

Tim Lee

No and this is why I would not live in the New England States.

Mott

Not just NO, But HELL NO!

Mr. Walkker

Too Funny…Last Night, whilst the Sun was setting, on a walk with the German Shepherd, we came a cross some “Good Old Boys” down yonder on “Clear Creek”, they looked like they were watering the horses, all the while practicing “Long Lost Rope Handling Skills”. They were unarmed, looked to be fighting age, yet had two very tall ladder (S). We saw a spool of rope on the ground next to the tree trunk? Looked like a 5/8 spool. It was made of Manila. Hmmmmm…..makes a Patriot wonder what “Time it is”, and the notion of which side of the… Read more »

Kevin Stich

I have 100 feet of good 5/8 Romanian pre-stretched hemp rope. I use it for lifting things.

Ron

Had…. a 300 ft’r. Unfortunately it was getting pretty old and was dry rotting. It got to where you couldn’t trust it not to snap. Still, great stuff.

Samuel

No way in hell will I or would I comply with such a Demtarded assault on my rights. To those that say they will, stop being sheep and stand up to the Demtards in charge. Gun or Mag confiscation has nothing to do with mass shootings. It’s the Demtards way of gaining more and more control over the populous. Stop being blind and open your tightly squinched eyes and you’ll see how they are trying to adopt Britain’s policies as well as NATO’s small arms treaty. Read, learn, and think for your damn selves before your assimilated.

Hubcap

NO.

Z

1848 – Ein Gespenst geht um in Europa – das Gespenst des Kommunismus.

2018 – Ein Gespenst geht um in Welt – das Gespenst des Kommunismus.

wayne n howell

Sie sprechen wahrheiten.

1776 Patriot

I would love to comply with my government overlords but unfortunately I lost all my high cap mags and fully semi-auto guns in a horrible boating accident last tear!

Lord-Pi-314

@1776….LOL, the same thing happened to me. And all my gold and silver went down with them. Such a loss it was !!!

Clifffalling

My take as well. I fight when I can, but you better believe I will have no issue “Mr Federal officer agent person” with a search of my home. Check under the rugs, use your FLIR on the walls. Nothing to see here. Just me and my ” life partner” and gender neutral progeny. To win a “war”, sure it takes guts and decisive action. It also takes intelligence. I won’t be one of these goons that falls on the the government sword just to make a point. That benefits no one… except the oppressor. Anywoo… my cases are dry,… Read more »

Atlanta Scott

Never. Ever. Ever.

Felixd

No compliance. If force is used against you, resistance is required.

Don

If I lived there, I would not need to worry. All of my clips are 30 to 40 rounds.So they could stick it in there ear for all I care.

Raymond Hudson

Any Judge or elected official that refuses to recognize and or protect our citizens Constitutional Rights has forfeited his right to hold that position! We should no longer be subject to, or feel compelled to comply with any ruling issued by that official. We declare them Null and Void! RH

Missouri Born

There should be a grandfather clause to any new law passed even if the law goes against the constitution we have.

Nobody of Import

There is one. They’re not allowed to do anything ex-post-facto. They’re not allowed the authority to even discuss this subject as it runs afoul of the Second Amendment even though the black robed *sshole clowns say otherwise. As such, this is void out of box… “Where a court has jurisdiction, it has a right to decide any question which occurs in the cause, and whether its decision be correct or otherwise, its judgments, until reversed, are regarded as binding in every other court. But if it act without authority, its judgments and orders are regarded as nullities. They are not… Read more »

Heed the Call-up

Nobody, you are correct, but you would still need another judge to agree or face the penalty. If any of those judges that agreed with the law, believed in our Constitution, they would have found it unconstitutional, as the one dissenting judge did.

TheHolyCrow

@MB….Bone up on the Supremacy Clause of the US Constitution, found in Article 6. No one has a duty to ENFORCE or OBEY any law, rule, statute, etc., that does not conform to the Constitution. If it “infringes”, it is null and void from inception. What we have in NJ is a couple of Judges attempting to legislate law from the bench. And there are 22 judges on the Appeals Court of the Third District, from whence they enemaded from. “Enemade” is a new word I just made up. It is the verb form of enema.

John Tauscher

I’m surprised that no where in the court papers does anyone dispute the efficacy of the law for the very reason it was enacted.

If one is predisposed to murder people, they obviously do not care if they are violating an equipment law.

So, like all other gun control laws, this one only affects the law-abiding.

Harmon Ford

MOLON LABE, NEW JERSEY AND THE USA. AND DEPOSE THE JUDGE AND HIS CRONIES.

Dolanfossil

Molon Labe is right; one round at a time

bobocat

And the Chief Justice of the Supriem Court said last week that there are no Obama judges, say that again Chief Justice.

Larry Brickey

I understand the rate of compliance in CT and NY over such a law has been 10 to 20%.

Jackwagon Jimmy

The 3rd Circuit is wrong – they are violating the Constitution just like NJ by upholding this law. Question is: when NJ residents turn on the liberal leadership, wiping them out to the last person, are the feds going to identify the bodies? It is heading that way – maybe MA or CA does it to theirs first, but one state government is going to be made an example of soon.

Oldmariine

Oldmarine >>> Jackwagon Jimmy It seems that ALL OUR PROBLEMS start with politicians and amplified by judges making decisions against the Constitution. I WONDER WHY THAT IS? Someday all violations of the Constitution will come to a head and many puppets will fall and sometimes fatality. What they think is impossible will happen, you never know! Politicians and Judges are Public servants and subject to the peoples will. The people can only take so much then will go after the Politicians and Judges, mostly for Perjury violation of their Oath. Both Politicians and Judges forget that their Oath was sworn… Read more »

TheHolyCrow

Judge Greenaway, who was one of the 2 judges who voted to infringe your rights, is a Black man who was born in London, UK about 61 years ago. He was appointed by Obama. He went to Harvard and Columbia. No doubt at Columbia he was brainwashed by the Frankfurt School of Marxism. Those Zmarxists have infested Columbia for decades now, and have branched out to many, many other institutes of higher learning. Including Harvard, where all the good little commies go.

Ron

I was surprised that someone actually knew about the Frankfurt school. (brought it up) Then I saw……… Theholycrow.
On the mark Holy. And we can only hope some common sense strikes in the minds of Jersey’s anointed
ones. We have to to keep watch in all our states. The infestation spreads.

Lily Powell

Never ever give up any of my second amendment rights , and no MARXIST , FACIST , COMMUNISTIC , GLOBALIST, SATANIC ,
ORGANIZATION , IS GOING TO TELL ME OR ANY AMERICAN WHAT TO DO !! NOT NOW …OR EVER !!

Bill

Amen!

JoeUSooner

Amen! Although… I am perfectly willing to tell liberals/Leftists/socialists where to go! And what to do when they arrive!

I have had enough of the liberals’ destruction of this country. Any human being who does not approve of my approach to life and/or patriotism is faced with exactly two options… 1) immediately hit the nearest phucking exit and leave me and my family completely (including legislatively) alone, or 2) bleed.