Amid Seattle Crisis, SPD Admits RKBA, Open Carry Legal as City ‘Under Siege’

This banner has been hoisted onto a building in Seattle's Capitol Hill area taken over by protesters. (Screen snip, YouTube, Fox News)

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- With a seven-block area in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood controlled by self-styled revolutionaries, Seattle is “under siege,” according to a Fox News headline, but amid the appearance of disorganization that has put the city in headlines across the nation, a Seattle police official acknowledged the state constitutional right to bear arms and the fact that Washington is an “open carry state.”

During an afternoon press conference, Assistant Police Chief Deanna Nollette confirmed there are “barricades set up by the protesters with some armed individuals running them as checkpoints into the neighborhood.” Protesters are calling this area the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” (CHAZ) and have posted a sign advising those who enter, “You are now leaving the USA.”

Images of armed “guards” have been posted on social media, and Nollette told reporters in this video broadcast by KOMO, “While they have a constitutionally-protected right to bear arms, and while Washington is an open carry state, there is no legal right for those arms to be used to intimidate community members.”

It was a surprising observation in a city known for its anti-gun-rights official philosophy. It might be one of the few things that has made sense lately in a city that rivals Portland, Ore., and San Francisco for its far-left political tilt. It could also be remembered by Second Amendment advocates at future legislative hearings on gun control proposals, a fact not lost on Evergreen State gun activists.

While this began as part of a nationwide protest effort following the death in Minneapolis of George Floyd while in police custody, a knee pressed on his neck for more than eight minutes, the situation in Seattle has grown into something of an insurrection. Seattle Police evacuated the East Precinct building several days ago, and while police officials are talking about re-occupying the precinct offices, the protesters seem to have other ideas.

Fox News reported something else Nollette mentioned.

“We have heard, anecdotally, reports of citizens and businesses being asked to pay a fee to operate within this area,” she stated. “This is the crime of extortion. If anyone has been subjected to this, we need them to call 911 and report the incident.”

President Donald Trump threatened in a tweet to Gov. Jay Inslee and Mayor Jenny Durkan that if they fail to “take back the city,” he would do it, himself. Trump called both Democrats “Radical Left” and asserted they have been “played at a level that our great Country has never seen before.”

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1270914092295950337?s=20

Durkan fired back, tweeting, “Make us all safe. Go back to your bunker.” Inslee also responded, referring to the president as “a man who is totally incapable of governing” and saying he “should stay out of Washington state’s business.”

The mainstream media has apparently been downplaying the Seattle situation, according to Media Research Center news analyst Nicholas Fondacaro, quoted by Fox News. He asserted “evening newscasts on ABC, NBC and CBS didn’t mention “autonomous zone” through Wednesday,” according to Fox News. The report also said rival CNN and MSNBC have left the story largely unreported.

Conservative talk radio hosts are uniformly criticizing city officials and Gov. Inslee for ineptitude. Writing for American Thinker, Earick Ward observed, “Seattle suburbanites need to be made to suffer for the consequences of their choices at the ballot box. You want to subvert our Constitution, attempt to run roughshod over civil society? Pay the price.”

KTTH radio host Jason Rantz, writing at MyNorthwest.com, reminded readers about Inslee’s incredulous reaction to a question about the “CHAZ” area, which includes several small businesses, residential areas and one of the city’s most popular public parks. Inslee claimed no knowledge of the situation.

“Well that’s news to me so I’ll have to reserve any comment about that,” Inslee told astonished reporters. “I have not heard anything about that, from any credible source. Not that you’re not credible, just before I espouse an opinion I should know of which I speak.”

Topping things off, a group calling itself “the Collective Black Voices at Free Capitol Hill” have issued a list of 20 “demands” to the municipal government. Among these demands is that the Seattle Police and “attached court system” be abolished because they are “beyond reform.”

The group also wants Seattle police officers disarmed during “the transitionary period between now and dismantlement.”

They also demand “that the City of Seattle and the State Government release any prisoner currently serving time for a marijuana-related offense and expunge the related conviction.” They further insist that “the City of Seattle and State Government release any prisoner currently serving time just for resisting arrest if there are no other related charges, and that those convictions should also be expunged.”

On top of that, they want prisoners currently serving time to be “given the full and unrestricted right to vote.”

They also want an end to “prosecutorial immunity for police officers.”

Meanwhile, Fox News is reporting that some Seattle-area law enforcement experts are “urging” the city’s police to retake control of the East Precinct swiftly.

The irony is that Seattle residents—and quite likely the majority of people participating in the CHAZ seizure, are strong supporters of gun control. Anti-gun-rights initiatives have passed overwhelmingly in the city while being far less popular the further away one gets from Seattle.

Yet now ostensibly protecting the boundaries of this “autonomous zone” are individuals strolling around with semi-auto rifles and sidearms.

One protester was shot several days ago in an altercation involving a car that entered the area, moving through people walking along the street. The motorist in this case, identified as Nikolas Alexander Fernandez, has been charged with first-degree assault. Fernandez is claiming self-defense, but the King County Prosecutor’s Office suggested in a statement that he provoked the attack that led to the shooting.



About Dave WorkmanDave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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1911_38Super
1911_38Super
1 month ago

This Mayor and Governor sure have thin skins and minimal brainpower. First they haven’t the brains or the backbone to prevent this absurdity from happening, they then seem powerless to stop it, the governor going so far as to say he was unaware it was going on? What the heII type of leadership is this? Liberal I suppose. When the President finally has to tell them, for the sake of the normal people who live there and are trapped inside this armed camp of lunatics, that these two morons better fix this situation or he will have to, they come… Read more »

Pitchfork peasant
Pitchfork peasant
1 month ago

At some point these protesters might become us protesting more gun control or mandatory actions or confiscation. Remember that before passing judgement on others. Actions used by one side can be used by the opposing side in the future. Especially where the possibility of hegelian dialectic coming into play

Pitchfork peasant
Pitchfork peasant
1 month ago

Without firearms we are nothing more than peasants with pitchforks

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Workman

@DW, You are up early. Probably working on another terrific article for “Guns” magazine.

1911_38Super
1911_38Super
1 month ago
Reply to  Dave Workman

And after having burned out a sizable portion of the city in the run-up to this inevitable result of the remarkable appeasement of these Marxist trained racists.
Your are absolutely correct in your assessment. This would never be allowed from a group that did not share a common philosophy with the powers that be in that formerly once great city.

Ramv36
Ramv36
1 month ago

Gov Inslee, ‘out of your business’, Does that mean the Postal Service should stop serving Washington State, should the FAA cease operations at their airports, shall the EPA stop administering their natural resources, the Dept of Education stop funding their schools, the DOT stop licensing their truck drivers, should they NOT get the next round of stimulus checks form the US Treasury, and lastly should federal unemployment and food stamp benefits be cut off? Just how out of your business do you want it? Like Russia invading by sea and us doing nothing out of your business? Edit or delete… Read more »

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Ramv36

Absolutely! If they are no longer part of the United States of America, then they should receive no benefits that are accrued to citizens of the United States of America.

Finnky
Finnky
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

@Cat – Doesn’t declaring themselves an autonomous zone equate to renouncing their citizenship? Does that not mean that the “armed guards” patrolling their “border” are in fact aliens involved in an armed invasion of the US – thus enemy combatants? Doesn’t renouncing citizenship cost one the right to vote and the right to keep or bear arms within the US for the remainder of one’s life?

John Dow
John Dow
1 month ago

So if CHAZ is an autonomous place, not part of the USA, then it’s not entitled to services from the City of Seattle. Turn off the water, the power, the gas and sewage systems. See how long they last.

And block their cell service and WiFi.

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  John Dow

The cell and WiFi services are probably private enterprises, in which case, they can continue as long as the “citizens” of “CHAZ” continue to pay them. All other services, however, should be discontinued, including the unemployment insurance, Medicaid, disability payments from any government entity, financial support for any hospitals or medical clinics within the zone; there are many things that we take for granted every day that are available to us as United States citizens. I doubt these “protesters” really understand or appreciate how much they owe to the country that they have just left.

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

,we should go out there and shut off the power! No charge! Divert all the rodents rats up the sewer system right to them! Buzz them 24/7 with drones! Set up concert grade speakers and blare “God Bless AMERICA” all nite long!

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

,those scumbags sure get brave when it’s 40:1 don’t they?

JIAZ
JIAZ
1 month ago
Reply to  Will


40 to 1? Okay, I’ll reload.;)

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  JIAZ

,this would be perfect time to use that Magpul 60rd drum mag I have!

JIAZ
JIAZ
1 month ago
Reply to  Will


Stop the first two thugs in their tracks and those other 38 will seriously rethink their next move, lol.

JIAZ
JIAZ
1 month ago
Reply to  JIAZ

@OV
Yes, by “reload” I meant load another 30 rounder. I’ve got more than “a few”;)

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago

Proof how screwed up this is. Let’s see, the Hells Angels and another biker group which I don’t think like each other are vowing to get together July 4, 2020 and clean house in Seattle! I am sure the left will claim that President Trump ordered it but the Bikers for Trump are just your normal good guy bikers and military people that drive Harley’s and some ricer burners and are a peaceful group. The point, if you have biker groups that in the 60s-70s in the day when I was in high school that didn’t like the cops and… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
1 month ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

@musicman – Hope those bikers study police reactions when two biker gangs had a meet at Twin Peaks in Waco TX back in 2015. Double standards are in play and I would not be at all surprised if SPD opens fire to prevent “biker-violence” in their “fair” city. Police prejudice applies to people wearing black skin (leather) as well as those with “black” skin. For those who do not remember police started shooting, killing 9 and injuring 20 before arresting some 300+ (?) people. In the end I don’t believe anyone was ever convicted of any crimes. All deaths were… Read more »

GUNFUN
GUNFUN
1 month ago
Reply to  Finnky

Outlaws at a stroke of a pen…

Not terribly sure that some of us weren’t outlawed already. We never crossed a line, but the line moved.

DonP
DonP
1 month ago
Reply to  GUNFUN

It matters not if any already were already outlaws. At the stroke of that pen, all of us will be outlaws.

Greg K
Greg K
1 month ago

When these two groups get together to clean this up, you know Antifastans’ founders are way out of line.
https://www.teaparty.org/bikers-for-trump-and-other-groups-planning-to-retake-seattle-occupation-zone-on-july-4th-443035/

a.x. perez
a.x. perez
1 month ago

Releasing people whose only charge is resisting arrest and taking police immunity away is reasonable. Of course, even the most evil have reasonable claims mixed in with their trash from time to time,

RoyD
RoyD
1 month ago

My thoughts are that if they wish anarchy then give it to them in full measure.

StLPro2A
StLPro2A
1 month ago

It would be a shame…not….if the National Guard used CHAZ as an A-10 ground support training area. Fire hose out, rebuild. Problem solved.

toomanyhobbies
toomanyhobbies
1 month ago

now are they saying this because the TERRORIST are armed, or because SPD is CS and the citizens are basically on their own!!!

Some guy
Some guy
1 month ago
Reply to  toomanyhobbies

Seattle police are little 11year old girls….. I’m not going to even call them punk bitches, because I have seen full on sissies that would stand up for themselves….

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
1 month ago

We should have known that any state or city that will allow illegal’s sanctuary is not going to enforce other laws that is in the best interest of the citizens, and this just proves it.

PMinFl
PMinFl
1 month ago

I find it funny (curious) that when liberals want to carry, whether open or concealed, it now becomes a constitutional right, whereas previous policy has been to deny citizens such rights.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  PMinFl

@PMin, it is more than curious. The founders anticipated people like this more than 200 years ago.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  PMinFl

Only for thee, not for me.

badlands
badlands
1 month ago

They’re just “undocumented shoppers”.

Bluemax
Bluemax
1 month ago

This is a little off topic. Earlier in the year Washington voters voted to have their car tabs lowered. It passed, But a liberal judge struck down the vote of the people and kept our license tabs high. “TYRANNY” These Politicians need to GO! Arm Up!

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

@Blue, What good does it do to arm up, the police are in the way?

Greg K
Greg K
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

It’s being challenged by King and one other county, however it’s not the first time this has happened.

The last time we voted for lowered car tabs, Gregoire was governor. They challenged it and won the car tab reduction, but left the rest of the new law in place. What they left in place was the creation of a gun purchase database run by the Dept. of Licensing.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  Greg K

Scchhhhh. Don’t say it too loud. Oregone will hear it and the commies will try it here.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

we voted for $30 per year registrationon ANY vehicle quite a few years back. The politicians first challenged it in court, and failed. Then they began to realise that if they call “registration” thirty dollars even, then ADD about ten other charges and call them something else, they’d get clean aay withit. We protested, to no avail. This most recent vote was to clarify that vote from years ago specifically saying ALL CHARGES are now to total thirty dollars. But WHO is this “judge” whose one vote trumped all of ours? Meanwhile, as this drags throgh the court system (corrupt… Read more »

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

Commiefornia. The people voted on issues and the Govenor struck down the peoples vote on two occasions that I can recall. Oregone has brown and though the poeple voted that illegals cant have a drivers licnese she over rode it on two occasions. Now she has a program in place that when you get a license you are registered to vote. Don’t mark any of the boxes and all of a suddent you are a demoncrap. Hummmm, how did that happen. Now they want to make changes and redistrict the voting area’s. I guess the las vote for Gov. was… Read more »

JIAZ
JIAZ
1 month ago

First and foremost, prepare to defend your home turf. Don’t depend on any government entity to come to your rescue. They’ve already proven they won’t.

Join a Mutual Aid & Assistance group, or start your own with neighbors, relatives, friends. The more diverse the backgrounds and areas of expertise are, the better. Today more than ever, we are our own first responders.

Bill
Bill
1 month ago

I agree with a few other posts, seigel warfare would be the most pleasing, isolate them, no ingress or egress, no food, no water, no electricity, no nothing. Then, when there is not a peep coming out of that area, no sign of movement and they all have perished gather up anyone outside of it who fostered this tragedy and put them in the CHAZ and do the same to them.

It would be nice and quiet, no violence and it would be real slow.

Oldman
Oldman
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill

@Bill, Not only have they not turned off any services or ingress and egress, the city is supplying with Sanikans and pumping them out for the commies. I said at the outset, that the only way to get them out of there, once they ‘walled’ it up, was to fly up an Apache attack helicopter from FT. Lewis, announce they had an hour to come out with their hands up, give up their weapons or face a surgical strike, unlike anything that’s ever happened in the USA. It would make a good training exercise for the army and put the… Read more »

Greg K
Greg K
1 month ago
Reply to  Oldman

Maybe not for long…This is why defunding the Government and allowing society to set up the Walls of Taboo is the longest term solution.
https://www.teaparty.org/truck-drivers-say-they-will-not-deliver-to-dangerous-far-left-cities-with-defunded-police-departments-443039/

Ramv36
Ramv36
1 month ago
Reply to  Bill

But you think too small, Inslee even said “Stay out of our state’s business”, so lets.
Cut off all federal funding, services, and administration to the entire state of Washington, as they ask.
No DHS, no EPA, no Postal Service, No DOT trucking, No FAA, NO FOOD STAMPS, NO FEDERAL UNEMPLOYMENT, No next round of stimulus. No international ports.
Grant their wish of staying our of their business. Then, when Mt Rainier volcano erupts and Seattle is under 20ft of lahar and felsic lava, Fema can point and laugh from Oregon.

Dubi Loo
Dubi Loo
1 month ago

But, but, but the loony left told us borders are racist?

Bluemax
Bluemax
1 month ago

Eastern Washington needs to break away from these Morons. Western Washington out votes the east side. That is why Washington is Democratic. Giving up ground to the enemy’s of our constitution makes you the enemy as well. This is War on our moral and Constitutional freedoms. Treat it as such! An armed takeover is WAR. The Governor of Washington and Mayor of Seattle have committed Treason against the People of the State.

gregs
gregs
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

durkin and Inslee both kissed the socialist boot and now that boot is stomping them into the ground. this is what happens when you capitulate to the leftist mob mentality. it does not go the way you think it will or is told it will be. the state police should storm the area, shoot anyone resisting and jail all the rest to bring this under control. swift, decisive and brutal action needs to be taken or this will continue to spiral more out of control.
what happened to all the weapons, ammunition and evidence at that police precinct?

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  gregs

@gregs and Blue, I wish that the socialist boot were stomping on durkin and inslee, but that is not happening because there are police between the boot and the bootay!

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  gregs

WSP are NOT the appropriate agency to deal with this. They are Inslee’s boys and know where tjeir paychecks come from. Natioan Guard or full on military up from Fort Lewis is the answer. And soon.

As to the contents of that cop shop tey have overtaken… Washington’s Guard assisted SPD in removing arms, important papers, other stuff, so they did not leave anything of value or concern behind. That bothers ME a lot is that they carefuly cleared the building then effectively surrendered it to the mob. The Guard should have stood firm and prevented that happening.

Greg K
Greg K
1 month ago
Reply to  Tionico

It’s time for We the People to fix it…There needs to be some Social Investment into the solution. Government will just kick it down the road, much like their deeds in the Middle East.

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  Greg K

@GregK,the socialists will continue to be emboldened by Helter Skelter and carnage. Our real brave Republican politicians will continue to pander and hide! You’re so right,it will come down to us,..”We the People!

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

No it is not the “western side” that votes this way. Draw a ring twenty five miles in diamater from this ‘occupied territory”, and THAT is where the votes come from that run the whole state. There are tens of tousands of us outside that circle yet on the West side that abhor the Seattle INfection. I believe Mr. Trump needs to make good on his very constitutional threat to take care of it himself. Art 1 Sec 8 clearly places theuse of military to quell riot and civil disturbance and insurrection. This is all three rolled into one. These… Read more »

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  Bluemax

Oregone and other states has the same problem. I think all states need to change voiting requirements and not go by the majority of voters who always seem to live in the cities, but go by the majority of counties. Then the vermin won’t rule. Here they would have three of 48? counties.

Don
Don
1 month ago

Seattle police should not have abandoned the station house. That act set the stage for the insurrection that is taking place. A swift and heavy hand needs to be used to restore order on Capitol Hill. Seattle’s mayor needs to go. Instead, the democrat government will fire a few hundred police officers and watch as crime rises and the police become neutered.

Superman
Superman
1 month ago
Reply to  Don

No need to fire SPD officers. They are resigning at a record pace.

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  Superman

It’s not just in Seacrapple. Other states are facing the same issue.

Hankus
Hankus
1 month ago

Now Mayor Jurkan is “negotiating” with them. Negotiating with a terrorist group? Meanwhile Guv Dimslee chooses to remain ignorant of the whole affair, as it has nothing to do with climate change. Oh, the guns? That’s not a problem because they are in trusted hands.

Back in the good ol’ days the Dims used to be just soft on crime. Now they are actively promoting it.

The clock’s ticking. This thing is going hot pretty soon. Stocking up on popcorn.

GUNFUN
GUNFUN
1 month ago
Reply to  Hankus

Stocking up on popcorn!

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  GUNFUN

The buttered garlic flavored is really good!

Superman
Superman
1 month ago
Reply to  GUNFUN

Better to stock up on arms and ammo.

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  Superman

@Clark,we all have plenty of weapons and ammo to feed them. What’s your favorite flavored popcorn?

RoyD
RoyD
1 month ago
Reply to  Will

Will: For seasoning I use Kernel Season’s Movie Theater Butter Salt. I have been looking for this stuff for a long time.

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  RoyD

,I had never heard of that until now. I googled it and I’m going to try some of that stuff. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen it before in the popcorn section of the store. It might be a regional type of ingredient. Thanks for the heads up about it. All this popcorn talk has got my mouth watering. Take care Roy.

Knute
Knute
1 month ago
Reply to  RoyD

This is the exact ingredient that almost all movie theater’s use in their popcorn. I’ve never seen it in stores, but now one can get it online:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081JD3GBD?tag=duckduckgo-ffsb-20&linkCode=osi&th=1&psc=1

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
1 month ago
Reply to  Hankus

Ultimate Butter flavor!

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

I use an old black friends recipie. He sang at our wedding and unfortunately he is gone now. Take brown sugar and butter and melt them together until there are no lumps while being careful not to let it burn. Then after the pop corn is popped, poor some on the corn, toss, pour, toss untill the popcorn is coverd all over. Yum, yum yummy. Almost like carmel popcorn.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
1 month ago
Reply to  musicman44mag

Sounds delicious! I’ll try it.

Buster
Buster
2 months ago

It’s never too late for good spanking. So far, the rod has been spared, the children are spoiled, and we’re seeing the results.

The children of CHAZ need their bottoms blistered NOW.

That old Tammy Wynette song “Kids Say The Darnedest Things” keeps going over and over in my head – LOL

Greg K
Greg K
1 month ago
Reply to  Buster

That’s funny, cuz I’ve been thinking Pat Benatar’s “Hell is for Children.”

BigMikeU
BigMikeU
2 months ago

Well the way i see it is that the Moslem Brotherhood as well as CAIR and that other group the black Israelite’s have joined in as well.All three are radical groups and have partnered with the BLM and Antifa!!! These groups are NOT the Peaceful protesters you see early in the day.As it gets later in the day Antifa,BLMer’s as well as the terrorist groups i mentioned all start too filter in and as night falls they start their rioting!!!Its time we told those law abiding citizens to stay in doors at home! Then shoot the rioters/terrorists on sight! “IF”… Read more »

JDL
JDL
2 months ago

Just isolate the area. They have all renounced their citizenship, so make it official. They are now foreigners who have invaded our country and have seized US territory. They have very few weapons, and cannot sustain themselves. Blockade all access to and from this area – no one in or out. No food, supplies, electricity, water, sewer, or electronic communication. Give them a couple of days of that. Then start showering the entire area with fire hoses – not blasting them, but a constant downpour like a steady rain. Keep them hungry, wet, and miserable. When they finally give up,… Read more »

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  JDL

There was a TV series a couple of years ago where the government wanted to section off a part of a city, I think it was due to zombies or aliens or illness or something – don’t recall much as I didn’t watch more than a couple of episodes. Anyway, what struck me was their bringing in Conex boxes, stacking them two high, and using them to ring the area they were cordoning off. That’s what I keep picturing them doing with this area.

BrainMatters
BrainMatters
2 months ago

Insurrections rare get resolved peacefully. This will no doubt be no exception here. If National Guard personnel are sent in. They need to be allowed to use lethal force to protect themselves. Even if it means a hundred CHAZ members are removed in body bags. They have already shown a propensity for violence, and symptoms of brainwashing, and rehabilitation would most likely prove all but impossible.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  BrainMatters

I doubt there are even a hundred of the ringleaders in there. Part of what is great aobut your plan is that once they are taken out in bdy bags they can never be part of a refrun anywher eelse. I’ll lay high stakes at long odds most of these organisers have travelled from other states. Seems to be theirMO.

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  BrainMatters

The problem with that is, as soon as it starts happening, everyone will start crying about these poor, misunderstood children, who were so mistreated and killed when they were just playing and joking and having fun and not meaning any real harm. Then they’ll call for the lynching of everyone in the government who had anything to do with it – from the people who authorized the action down to the front-line military or national guard guys who had to implement the orders, with those in the front lines taking the brunt of it, of course. While I don’t approve… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

@OV, She must be engaging in sarcasm or … maybe … she really is catatonic! Quick … someone call antifa … for help!

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Thank you, Wild Bill, for recognizing sarcasm. I’m appalled at how many on this forum don’t.

Last edited 1 month ago by Catatonic
Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

As I said in my post, Oldvet, trying to get an exchange of ideas. It worked, didn’t it? 😉

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

Grew up in the fifties, Oldvet – long before the “everybody gets a ribbon” generation.

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

Sorry I didn’t reply sooner. I actually had no idea that my sarcastic comments would draw this much activity, so I hadn’t bothered to check for replies.

Catatonic
Catatonic
1 month ago
Reply to  Catatonic

Late to the discussion here. My apologies for that. As I said before, I really had no idea that my comments would spark off such a flurry of replies or be so misinterpreted. No, I’m not antifa or BLM or a communist or a socialist. I don’t actually believe that the people taking over the streets of our country are anything other than criminals, and I do believe they should be swiftly and appropriately dealt with. I’m amazed that the illegal occupation of a section of Seattle was allowed to occur in the first place and appalled that it has… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 months ago

Here is a plan for Seattle: Nationalize the Washington National Guard. At the same time have the Marshal Service arrest the Governor of Washington, Mayor of Seattle, Seattle City Council members, and the Chief of police of Seattle and any other elected official that is aiding the insurrectionists by inaction, on charges of 18 USC 241 and 242.
Then let the Washington National Guard commanders and the Seattle police surround and starve out the insurrectionists.
Trump makes Seattle an example to other democrat socialists mayors and governors without committing active duty troops. People get their real-estate back. Antifa gets prosecuted.

Vanns40
Vanns40
2 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Only problem I see is that there are residents that live there that are not part of this (innocents, if you will). In my opinion this should be considered a hostile zone. Send in the police to clear it out. If the locals won’t do it then send in the Guard WITH loaded arms.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 months ago
Reply to  Vanns40

@Vann, residents and property owners would have some documentation that would explain their being there. So, I don’t think that the Seattle police would process them for prosecution.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

the hue danger I see is that if locals who oppose the move are trapped inside the zone they may well become colaateral damage, unwillingly. Leflet the place adivisng any residents who do not support the coup to leave the area. for their protection. Not sure I think the Wa Guard is the best team tos end in.. some may well have split loyalties. Bring in Army Special Forces Better yet, have some handpicked subversives to infiltrate, perhas make fake local ID to get past the gatekeepers. Have them identify the ringleaders, and when its time neutralise them. Then incur… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  Tionico

@Tio, If any National Guardsmen had split loyalties, that would get found out real fast when they all got nationalized.

Superman
Superman
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Prosecution is up to the prosecutor, not the police. The Seattle city attorney is as liberal as they come. Nice try; no cigar.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  Superman

@Clark, A careful read shows that no one has said that prosecution is up to anyone other than the prosecutor.

Knute
Knute
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Supes has a straw man problem. He habitually brings up irrelevant things that no one said. Straight out of the “how to deceive”, official US government playbook:
“4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists…”
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/the-25-rules-of-disinformation/

Swany
Swany
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Right on WB.
This gets out of hand and you will see it spread to every dumbocratic city in the US.
Nip it now….

PMinFl
PMinFl
1 month ago
Reply to  Swany

Swanny, I believe that if Seattle cleans house then other cities will erupt in an effort ” to show us” that the situation is not unique, but widespread across the country.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
1 month ago
Reply to  PMinFl

Okay… so what? If other cities’ leaders are truly that “dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks” stupid… LET them egotistically try to “show us.” Treat them exactly the same as Seattle. It would only take a couple of cities being deprived of stupid leadership to convince all the rest of the dumbocrat-owned cities to hide and cower. The socialist leaders are, after all, cowards – just roaches… and they will act like roaches when the spotlight in shined on them.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  JoeUSooner

@JoeUS, Yep, there is plenty of room for socialist governors, mayors, and city council persons in the many U.S. Marshal’s lock ups all across the country.

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago
Reply to  PMinFl

Lather rinse repeat until there are no more.
This, if left to fester, is the seedling that will grow to a nationwide revolution NOT what we want to happen.

uncle dudley
uncle dudley
2 months ago

This is what happens when you raise kids who never got spanked for acting up and you put them in sports programs where no winner or loser is ever declared then they all got trophies for playing.
They don’t understand the concept of right and wrong or the rules for life, time to clear the area that they have blocked off.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 months ago
Reply to  uncle dudley

@ud, Yeah, their brains are incorrectly programed and there is no changing that. As long as they live, they will be a problem to the rest of us.
I wonder which city will be next. I am betting Minneapolis.

JoeUSooner
JoeUSooner
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB, I’m betting on either Austin or St Louis jumping ahead and being next… with Minneapolis following shortly thereafter.

nrringlee
nrringlee
2 months ago

Welcome to Animal Farm. We are all equal. Some are just more equal than others. And by the way, it is not rape or robbery if it is in the name of social justice.

nrringlee
nrringlee
2 months ago

Open carry for Bosheviks. Not for Citizens who are loyal to the Constitution. Welcome to Animal Farm.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
2 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

@ring, We mustangs might be a little older and a little fatter here on animal farm, but we still got teeth.

PMinFl
PMinFl
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

The mayor says it’s a festival.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  PMinFl

@PMin, I am pretty sure that “it’s a festival.” is not the first thing that she has lied about.

PMinFl
PMinFl
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB The mayor didn’t lie,in her own feeble mind this is a festival (what a twisted bitch).

Will
Will
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

@WB,remember in ‘16 when HILLARY from Hell Clinton was asked ,…“Do you lie and have you ever lied”? ,. Her response was,..”well,I try not too”! Classic Clinton!

Knute
Knute
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

WB) I think ring’s point was based on Orwell’s novel. So the analogy would be the pigs in charge arm up their minion’s (which I think were dogs…it’s been a few decades since I read the book), so that they can repress the rest of the farm with greater efficiency.
And in the end, the rest of the animals (sheeple) do, indeed, revolt against the pigs. But if I remember correctly, I think the horse KICKS the pigs off the farm, instead of biting them! 🙂

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
1 month ago
Reply to  Knute

, I am aware, but you and I are not pigs. We are mustangs.

Knute
Knute
1 month ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Yeah, the analogy works in either case. But we’d never be the pigs. The pigs are the socialist rulers. I think the dogs are the pig’s enforcers, and the horses and all the rest are the proletariat. Those to be oppressed and exploited. IMO, “Animal Farm” is twice the book that “1984” is, but the world chose to make1984 famous instead. Probably because the place the fight occurs is England instead of a farm. But IMO Animal Farm is a clearer vision of socialism than 1984. Your analogy of us as Mustangs is esp. appropriate, since we think outside of… Read more »

musicman44mag
musicman44mag
1 month ago
Reply to  nrringlee

Not for me, just for thee.

Deplorable Bill
Deplorable Bill
2 months ago

You do not negotiate with terrorists. Negotiating with them never works, they want more, more, more. Next thing you know, they have their own country within your own country’s borders and it won’t end there. Anarchists are like babies; They don’t really know what they want, they only know they want. They are unhappy with something that happened a hundred years ago or life just isn’t fair or they think I owe them a living and they are going to cry and put up a hissy fit until you spank their ass for being selfish and worse. Protestors don’t tear… Read more »

SEMPAI
SEMPAI
2 months ago

@DB
Great post
How bout this. R.N.C. coming to my hometown 13 miles from my house… Jussss great
” Pin your ears back boyz “

Tionico
Tionico
1 month ago

Jefferson, back in tearly 1800’s, had a problem on his hands… moslep pirates harrassing shipping along the north coast of Africa. He got tired of paying their “jizra” to let some of our ships go free. Got a copy of their book (same one Kieth Ellison used to “swear” hos oath of office) After reading their how its done book, he realised something.. NO amount of settling appeasement, making nice, pleading, would affect them in ths least. They only understood ONE thing: absolute domination. All or nothing. SUbmit or be overwhelmed. He then sent in our brand new Navy and… Read more »