DGU By Minor Raises Questions for Phony ‘Gun Safety’ Prohibitionists

The NSSF promotes programs like First Shots which helps introduce new young shooters to the basic safety protocols of firearms. IMG NSSF.org

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “A North Carolina man died on Saturday after he broke into the home of a 73-year-old woman and was fatally shot by her 12-year-old grandson who was trying to defend her,” the Daily Mail reports.

“Two masked robbers entered the home of Linda Ellis in Goldsboro at around 1am on Saturday, where they demanded money and shot the grandmother in the leg. Ellis’ grandson fired back at the two intruders in self-defense and they fled.”

Good for the boy. He was able to keep his head and act, and fortunately, he had something to act with. And by the home invaders initiating fire, they put to the lie the naïve advice of all who counsel “Just give them what they want.” By shooting the grandmother, they made that more than clear. Only one thing stood in the way of that happening.

This is hardly the first time a young hero has saved the day by using a firearm to ward off a lethal threat.

20 years ago I wrote about another 12-year-old who saved his grandmother from armed predators who were trying to rob her store and, according to news reports, holding a gun to her head. As I asked at the time:

Do you think the scenario may have played out differently had the wonks at Handgun Control, Inc., been heeded? What do you think the outcome would have been had the grandmother kept her gun unloaded, locked up, and separated from its ammunition, or if she had installed a trigger lock? What about if her firearm was a personalized “smart gun” that no one but herself could fire? And had these “safety methods” resulted in the death of this valiant boy and his grandmother, would HCI have exploited this to call for yet more gun control?

More examples can be found – if one is inclined to look for them. These took me all of a minute to find:

I could keep doing this but the point is made. Perhaps, in addition to “The Armed Citizen,” someone ought to put together a compilation for young armed citizens.

We’ve also seen what can happen when parents heed gun-grabber advice and deny the means of defense to children who would otherwise be capable. Remember the Merced Pitchfork Murders?

“Fear stalks Merced, California — fear of the government. Because of that fear, two innocent children died needlessly, victims of California’s ‘safe storage’ gun laws. The mass media never told Americans what really happened in Merced.”

That’s because DGUs (Defensive Gun Uses) don’t advance the blood-dancing narrative the way stories of homicidal criminals using guns do. When the object is to disarm the citizenry, you don’t want people thinking there might actually be good reasons to own a gun.

There are also good reasons to teach children about guns, exactly the opposite of what those who call themselves “commonsense gun safety advocates” do, pushing for ignorance and fear instead. They then use that deliberately-engineered ignorance for setting the scene to scare equally ignorant “adults,” if it’s appropriate to use that term for the willfully and childishly hysterical. They make all gun owners out to pose the same risks as passed-out crackheads leaving guns within reach of three-year-olds.

In fact, we who advocate for responsible firearms ownership have always emphasized the need for development-appropriate training (notice I did not say “age-appropriate” on purpose). And we practice what we preach.

My own sons, now grown, accompanied me to the range from an early age, so they understood what guns do and the importance of safety. They watched me clean my guns, and were able to sit down, talk about what I was doing and why, and even help. They learned Cooper’s rules and learned to use safety equipment to protect their eyes and ears. They got BB guns and training when they were interested and ready. They soon got to shoot actual firearms under careful supervision. Each step along the way, they proved to me they were ready for the next one through careful observations of safety adherence, maturity levels, motor skills, and attitudes. They knew if they were ever curious, all they needed to do was ask. And all of that was done with an additional goal of anticipating what they’d do if a friend had access to a gun and they saw any rules being broken.

My wife and I managed to get them both to adulthood with zero “accidents” and incidents of misplaced trust regarding firearms. It’s something those of us who practice real “common-sense gun safety” do all the time. And we didn’t learn how by sticking our heads in the sand and trying to suppress information like the phony “gun safety” prohibitionist frauds do.

Back to the North Carolina story, we see another happy potential outcome:

“Charges against the 12-year-old are not expected.”

That leads to some basic questions every “true believer” gun-grabber ought to be asked:

  • Since you demand what you call “safe storage laws” and since a child, in this case, was able to access and use a firearm, regardless of the outcome, why wouldn’t you say the grandmother should be prosecuted?
  • Would you rather see educated children watch their younger siblings get murdered with pitchforks than able to stop maniacs by using a gun?
  • If you were being robbed, assaulted, and shot at by murderous home invaders, who would you rather have come to your defense, the armed 12-year-old in this story, or “grown-up man” David Hogg?

About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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David Hog and his FBI retired father can LEAVE MY FREEDOM AND RIGHTS ALONE!!!

Matt in Oklahoma

There’s more juvenile DGUs than will ever be reported because of already existing laws and attitudes.
Training a child is a responsibility not to be shirked. It’s just like any other skill such as getting dressed.


I’ve been an instructor with the Appleseed Project (appleseed info dot org) for over ten years now, and we see a lot of “kids’ come to the ranges with us. I’ve worked with children as young as six. Let me be VERY PLAIN, we DO NOT tolerate any shenannigans whatever, no matter the age of the one clowning. The worst discipline incident I’ve ever seen was with an eighteen year old snotty nosed punk that thought he was God’s gift to the range. It took two of us instructors to pinppiont WHICH ONE kept firing after Cease FIre…. but when… Read more »


Girls can excel. They don’t come with the same mindset baggage as boys.



Excellent article, David! I especially like how you managed to get a dig in about “Pillow Head Hogg!” Bwahahahahaha!


didn’t think I’d be the only guy toc catch that HoggBoyy dig.Well done, David. That clown needs to be buried under a ten yard dump truck load of fresh duck feathers… wet ones.


I have 3 granddaughters, ages 9, 11, and 15. I had each girl, at age 8, take a year of twice-monthly lessons (24 lessons in all) from two local police officers – family friends – who taught them everything from law to safety to holster draw to marksmanship to maintenance/cleaning. All 3 girls loved it, and they are now members of a pistol competition team that I coach. And they now reload their own 9mm ammunition, too! All along this process, the girls have developed strong senses of self-worth, responsibility, and mental/emotional maturity. They take justifiable pride in their accomplishments,… Read more »

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Along with the lifelong defensive utility of firearms and other weapons acquired from early use, the ability to be more self-sufficient through hunting skills, and the mechanical and chemical knowledge acquired through reloading ammunition which can open up the world of physics; there is a great social benefit by meeting and being friends with other like-minded people.


My all time favourite DGU by a “too young to have/use a gun” is this one: from memory, and back a few years….. Mom and three kids, oldest son at 11, two smaller ones at about 8 and 6, home. No word of a father involved, but he was not there. Creep busts in through the front door, scares everyone silly, charges the Mom, pushes her into the kitchen where he grabs a large kitchen knife. Using this he pushes Mom up against a kitchen counter, physically abusing and threatening her.She struggles, trying to fight him off, but the knife… Read more »


I have two sons the older of which went shooting with me quite often when he was age three to 12. At 12 he developed interests which didn’t involve firearms. Then about four years later he started shooting IDPA with me. We went to three matches a month. Two in the OKC area and one in Tulsa. For four years we went to the IDPA Nationals in Miss. During this time he attained a SSP Master rating. This was before there was a Grand Master rating. We took home our share of trophies, his were bigger and more numerous than… Read more »


I’m a Private Pilot also. I’ve flown into Yellowstone field there numerous times. Including skiing at Big Sky. Bridger Bowl and Red Lodge are both good too. Big Sky is where I got stuck overnight once when I lost my keys on the back side of Andesite. That was a HUGE wipeout! I lost both skis, both poles, and didn’t stop sliding for a thousand yards! I was hiking up after my gear when another skier stopped and threw them down to me (thx whoever you were!). I didn’t think to check for my keys until it was too late.… Read more »


They are staying with a friend in Bozeman and skiing at Big Sky.


Hope he keeps a good hold on his keys! Or stays off the back side of Andesite Mountain. That sucker is STEEP.


He lost his rental vehicle keys once at a resort in Colorado in the snow covered parking lot and never found them. Fortunately they had another set of keys for it.

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I had driven down that trip and had not had the foresight to bring an extra set of keys along. What can I say except I was young and foolish. I had to call home (in the NE corner of the State. 500 miles away. MT is a rather large State. 🙂 ) and have the keys sent down on the bus the next day. No overnight delivery services here in those days. It should go without saying that ever since then I’ve stashed a spare set of keys somewhere on my vehicle. Not going to go through that again.… Read more »


Since you demand what you call “safe storage laws” and since a child, in this case, was able to access and use a firearm, regardless of the outcome, why wouldn’t you say the grandmother should be prosecuted?”

In our New Age of McCloskey, Strickland, Baca, and Rittenhouse, I wouldn’t even dare pose this question.


The truth about any of their ‘common sense gun control’ agenda is that none of it will stop not one single bad man from getting a gun, or prevent not one single act of violence, but it WILL disarm all law abiding citizens. W/O even going into the discussions about ‘background checks’ or ‘gun-free zones’ and such, the plans are very clear; ‘If it auto-loads’ (semi-automatic), AND/OR has a MAGAZINE (any type, box, tube etc) IT WILL BE BANNED! This include bolts AND pumps AND levers. 95% of ALL Rifles, Pistols, Shotguns and Handguns will be Banned. And you Liberals… Read more »


A politician with a law never stops a bad guy with a gun. He only controls the good guys, which is his true agenda.   A bad guy with a gun can be stopped decisively by a good guy with a gun. Sadly, politicians not as much…..yet. In 1958. the late Col Jeff Cooper, handgun expert and founder of Gunsite Academy, stated, “Killing is a matter of will, not weapons. You cannot control the act itself by passing laws about the means employed.” The bad guy with a gun…..or the mentally deficient guy with a gun……or the terribly distraught family… Read more »

Get Out

IMOA, these anti-gun whacks are overreaching into our homes by passing this legislation for BS commonsense gun safety requirements to store firearms away when not under our direct control in the home. My guess is the firearm the 12 year old used was ready to go.
Teach children what firearms are, how to safely handle and shoot them and how if improperly used can be dangerous. Take the mystery surrounding firearms and children would probably be less inclined to go looking for them.


I think this is also important enough to highlight:

‘They came in the house, I open the door, I open it, and they came in there,’ Randolph Bunn, who is Ellis’ son and the boy’s grand-uncle, told ABC 11.

‘One guy had a gun. They just put me down on the ground… [Ellis] was in the kitchen, I don’t know why they shot her.

‘[The intruder] just shot his grandma… He would have shot him too, he would’ve shot me too, he would’ve killed us all,’ Bunn added of the 12-year-old boy’s actions.


“Remember the Merced Pitchfork Murders?”

Of course I do.

It was wonderful for you to bring that up.

As for your 3 questions at the end, every politician should have to answer them.


I live as a hermit. No visitors in my home, so I will store as I see fit. This bill does not apply to me & my individual liberty.


Most people who have firearms in their living spaces are not “people of the gun.” I don’t know if this woman was one of the “new gun purchasers” but it was there and unsecured. This apparently happened Monday this week:

Mother of five shot and killed after children find gun in her purse, police say (msn.com)


I’ll offer as proof the number of gun owners who refer to cartridges as “bullets” and magazines as “clips”. I’m not talking about anti-gunners here, who we already know are more ignorant than a 2 year old child, but long time gun owners. This is a kindergarten level error. It says either cartridges or bullets right on the box, for Pete’s sake! I used to have a friend, a reloader, who reffered to bullets as “tips” because he simply refused to correct his long time error of thinking of cartridges as bullets. He preferred to make up his own language… Read more »


Like fingernails on a chalkboard.


Is your meaning that that level of ignorance is that annoying… or that I’m that annoying for harping on this issue all the time? 🙂 It is definitely one of my pet peeves.
I feel like screaming at these people; “Geez, read the box man! It says it all over!”


The first of course. It is very grating and telling at the same time.


It has to be getting old, me pounding on this all the time. I must not be trying hard enough… 🙂


If it’s in my house, it’s secured and I’m responsible…it’s as simple as that. “Safe storage”, is about having a gun safe to keep people you don’t know away from them and training/teaching your children basic safety and rules when they are accessible. Once I was comfortable with level of maturity of safely handling and using firearms along with some “what if” drills, my son had access to the gun safe at the age of 10; he did his first defensive rifle course at the age of 13. The gun safe was to be locked and no guns accessible when… Read more »