IN: State Police Overwhelmed by Response to Free Lifetime Carry Permits

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IN: State Police Overwhelmed by Response to Free Lifetime Carry Permits

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- As a compromise in the debate over Constitutional Carry, the Indiana legislature passed a firearms reform bill that eliminated the fee for an Indiana lifetime carry permit. The fee for the 5-year permit was eliminated in 2019. That law went into effect on 1 July 2020. From the Crime Prevention Research Center, Indiana had 967,061 permits as of July 1, 2020. At that time, 18.73% of the adult population had an Indiana carry permit.

On 1 July of 2020, when the five-year permit fee was eliminated, about 8,000 applications for permits were received. From indystar.com:

State Police received 2,259 handgun permit applications from July 1-7 last year compared to 20,647 in 2020.

On July 1 alone, the day the fees were eliminated, Galaviz said the state received about 8,000 gun permit applications.

The data includes all handgun permit applications, which include lifetime permits that still have fees. About two-thirds of last week’s applications were for the no-fee five-year permits, Galaviz said.

As of 1 July 2021, the number of total active licenses had increased to 1,120,144. Those numbers translate into 21.69% of the adult population, a nearly 16% rise in permits, equal to 3% of the adult population. 69% of those with permits are males, 31% are females.

The elimination of the lifetime permit fee went into effect on 1 July 2021. The number of applications for permits showed an increase similar to the increase a year ago, on 1 July 2020.  From fox59.com:

GREENWOOD, Ind. — There is no longer a fee to obtain a lifetime permit to carry a gun in the state of Indiana. The response from Hoosiers has been so overwhelming that it’s bogging down Indiana State Police’s firearms licensing website.

“As expected, we’ve had an influx of applications on our website. We’re asking folks that want to apply for that to be patient,” said ISP public information officer, Sgt. John Perrine.

Perrine confirmed that ISP received 7,136 applications through the site in the first 24 hours after the permits became fee exempt.

If the same pattern happens as last year, the total number of active permits will rise to 24% of the adult population in Indiana. Nearly all those permits are Indiana residents. Only a few people qualify for a non-resident permit. From ariesportal.com:

If I do not live in Indiana, can I still have an Indiana firearm license? 
 
If you are a resident of another state and have a regular place of business or employment in Indiana, you qualify for a 5 year personal protection firearm license. Your local agency will be the sheriff of the county in which you have a regular place of business or employment. You will be asked to upload the following documents on your application: 1. Print, complete, sign and notarize the Out-of-State Affidavit form stating you meet out-of-state residence requirements. 2. Provide a proof of employment on company letterhead.

Constitutional Carry was very close to passing in the Indiana legislature in 2020. If nearly a quarter of the population of voters in Indiana have carry permits, it seems very likely Constitutional Carry will pass in the next Legislative session.

It is the pattern we have seen in 20 other states. First, shall issue carry permit legislation is passed. Then, the permit numbers rise, and the restrictions on permits are reduced. Finally, Constitutional (permitless) Carry is passed.

It is likely a majority of states will have Constitutional Carry by the end of 2022.


About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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Arny
Arny (@dmaxter)
4 months ago

“As expected, we’ve had an influx of applications on our website. We’re asking folks that want to apply for that to be patient,” said ISP public information officer, Sgt. John Perrine. SHALL NOT INFRINGE !

TStheDeplorable
TStheDeplorable (@tvsteinke)
4 months ago

In 1993 I obtained a free lifetime permit in Indiana because I’m a retired cop. While I was glad to get the permit, I have always been troubled that I was given greater rights than everyone else. This fixes that! Unfortunately, now I live in Oregon. This is a “shall issue” state, but the democrats run the legislature and are rabidly anti-gun, and last session began a planned creeping restriction of rights. This year they mandated safes and made people civilly and criminally liable for what happens with their stolen guns. It should take them only another year or two… Read more »

Bones
Bones (@harly69g)
4 months ago

Also it is not a 5 year permit it is only a 4 year permit, I have the lifetime myself in Indiana.

J Gibbons
J Gibbons (@jagibbons)
4 months ago

Please clarify, Patriot Solutions.

Arny
Arny (@dmaxter)
4 months ago
Reply to  J Gibbons

My guess would be the complying to get a permit for a Constitutional right.

Bill
Bill (@hittpink)
4 months ago

Are there regulations for forfeiture upon conviction of a crime or mental instability?

J Gibbons
J Gibbons (@jagibbons)
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill

Yes. As an Indiana resident, I can confirm that there are processes for revocation. Forfeiture of firearms is a different animal, but it does happen in some cases.

Indiana was one of the first states to have a so-called “red flag” law, and it has been used. Several cases have even gone all the way up to the state supreme court.

JSNMGC
JSNMGC (@jsnmgc)
4 months ago
Reply to  J Gibbons

Who were the actual people who seized the firearms? Not names, but which government organizations?

Last edited 4 months ago by JSNMGC
Russn8r
Russn8r (@russn8r)
4 months ago
Reply to  J Gibbons

Were they required to forfeit access to baseball bats, knives, cars, axes, gasoline, matches, toxins?

Russn8r
Russn8r (@russn8r)
4 months ago

Hypocritical dumb ass smear.

Last edited 4 months ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC
JSNMGC (@jsnmgc)
4 months ago

Some people carry a firearm to defend themselves against violent non-government employees (who will ruin or end their lives). Some of those same people get carry permits to defend themselves against government employees (who will ruin or end their lives). Whether they call themselves peace officers or law enforcement officers, most of them will ruin your day for merely violating one of the many never-ending firearm laws. Both of the above actions are reasonable decisions by people with good risk management skills and who have a lot to lose. To all those people who chant “concealed means concealed” – if… Read more »

Last edited 4 months ago by JSNMGC