Could Constitutional Carry Reach a Tipping Point?

Dan Wos, Author of – Good Gun Bad Guy
Host of The Loaded Mic

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A new bill proposed by Republican Representative Anthony Sabatini is getting pushback from some Republicans. IMG iStock-460151141

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- A new bill proposed by Republican Representative Anthony Sabatini is getting pushback from some Republicans. The bill HB 103 would allow Florida residents 18 years and older to carry a handgun open or concealed without a license in Florida. This is commonly known as Constitutional Carry.

There are currently 21 Constitutional Carry states including Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming. If passed, HB 103 would make Florida the 22nd. Alabama could soon be joining them.

It would seem, the desire for more guns in the belts or purses of good guys and gals is gaining in popularity. This shouldn’t surprise anyone after witnessing the devastating riots, looting, arson and violence of 2020 in cities across America by radical left-wing terror groups. Of course, there will always be pushback on any pro-gun measures by Democrats, but in this case, even some Republicans are trying to thwart the efforts of Representative Sabatini by continuing to make Florida residents acquire a government-issued permission slip to exercise their right.

The bill’s sponsor wrote this on Twitter:

“Meanwhile here in Florida, Anti-2A ‘Republicans’ in the Legislature REFUSE to allow my Constitutional Carry Bill to move forward.”

Sabatini has filed his bill several times since his election to the house in 2018. Matt Collins, Director of Legislation for Florida Gun Rights has been a strong supporter of the bill and is quoted as saying,

“There’s no excuse for the Florida Legislature to delay the passage of HB 103, Constitutional Carry. With Governor DeSantis on board, and self-proclaimed pro-gun Republicans in control of both chambers, law-abiding gun owners in Florida deserve to see their elected officials restore gun-rights in 2022.”

Over 10% of the population in Florida hold concealed carry licenses and with the nickname “The Gunshine State,” it’s safe to say, that should Constitutional Carry pass, that percentage could quickly double and Florida could soon be the safest place on Earth.

Besides the vast support for Constitutional Carry and the typical anti-freedom opposition, there was one interesting thing to note. Florida’s Governor DeSantis seems to be in favor of the bill. In a brief six-second video shared by the National Association for Gun Rights, Governor DeSantis can be heard saying “of course” after being asked if he would support Constitutional Carry in Florida. The video was recorded on December 3rd at a reception at the Governor’s Mansion.

Good luck Florida and Mr. Sabatini. Let’s get that bill to the Governor’s desk.

The 2nd Amendment is not a privilege.
It’s your right.

Dan Wos
Good Gun Bad Guy
The Loaded Mic


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Arizona

Constitutional Carry is already the law of the land. It is called the Constitution.

JSNMGC

You will be dead right if you attempt to follow that view in practice.

HLB

I have talked my way in to and out of prohibited weapons areas with both armed and unarmed government authorities. I survived all encounters and still have my weapons, and carry every day.

HLB

JSNMGC

Do you have LEOSA credentials?

JSNMGC

That’s what I thought. To all you “civilians” out there without LEOSA credentials who truly believe that Constitutional Carry is the law of the land in reality (not just a trite slogan) do you believe all LEOs across the country will respect that law? They took oaths, right? If so, and you could go to Northwestern Memorial hospital at 251 E Huron Street in Chicago. You could walk up to the emergency area, make sure a cop can hear you and announce loudly “Constitutional Carry is the law of the land. It is called the Constitution. I have a firearm and there… Read more »

Last edited 2 years ago by JSNMGC
HLB

In most of my encounters, I carried openly, thus no need to announce myself. The only one I lost more than I won, was when I was carrying concealed. Should there ever be a modicum of support for the freedoms recognized by the Constitution, most abusive authorities will fall back quickly. They are just taxpayer funded minions.

HLB

JSNMGC

If Constitutional Carry was the law of the land in reality (not just a trite slogan) LEOs across the country would respect that law. They took oaths, right?

You could go to Chicago, get on an EL with that gat strapped where everyone can see it.

If most LEOs showed a modicum of respect for the Constitution (rather than obeying unconstitutional orders to get that pension, move to Florida and vote for Democcrats), then “Constitutional Carry is the law of the land” would be more than a trite slogan.

Last edited 2 years ago by JSNMGC
HLB

Well, let’s think about that. It all depends on who takes it upon themselves to call the shots. Right now, it is a small number of taxpayer funded authorities, including LEO’s. The great majority of people are docile, so a very small number of people call the shots. Except for a few of them looking to bag a trophy on any given day, the sight of a single weapons bearing non-LEO will cause them to pause their aggressiveness. The sight of a volume of those weapon bearers speaking of the Constitution and the Law as they move about their daily… Read more »

JSNMGC

Would you say that if most LEOs showed a modicum of respect for the Constiution and didn’t enforce unconstitutional laws, there would be no need for a showdown?

Would you prefer that everyone just go about their business?

HLB

I think that would be fine. I thought I would just go about my business 24 years ago when I started carrying. It was not long before I found out I could not carry to drop my child off at school, and I could not carry to go to work and earn some money. Then I found out that I could not carry to go on vacation, I could not carry to vote, and I could not carry to pay my taxes. Pretty soon, I figured out that there were not many people challenging the system that said they could… Read more »

JSNMGC

I’m a firearm rights activist and I push for better laws.

I have no ill-will towards anyone who violates unconstitutional firearm laws.

Unfortunately, the phrase “Constitutional Carry is already the law of the land. It is called the Constitution” is a great slogan, but open carrying a firearm and making that statement in many, many parts of the country is going to get a person an ass-kicking or get them shot.

The people doing the ass-kicking or shooting are going to laugh at the person over beers with their peers.

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Russn8r

If by docile you mean rational, true. A civilian with a family, job & home who routinely exercises his right to carry into “gun free” zones like airports, cop palaces, school, nightclubs in Florida, and “private” “gun free” zones like El Cielo Mall, is vastly more likely to have his & his family’s life destroyed by enforcers than by conventional criminals.

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HLB

Well, let’s think about that.  First, for the risk to have standing, the life you live has to be qualified as worth living. If one is denied individualism and given a number for free gruel, then to voice complaint would be very risky because gruel may be withheld. If, on the other hand, one desires a life of their own choosing with a side of asparagus slightly singed in rich sweet butter, they may grow strong muscles around their back bone that allow them to stand tall and proud. I am glad you mentioned the distinction between conventional criminals and… Read more »

Russn8r

Dear Chatroom Commando,

We know you’re not carrying through TSA checks unless you’re an “Only One”.

Crickets chirping on the question of LEOSA credentials.

Your advice is like the hat in Caddyshack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmEV1d7RPvg

Wild Bill

You never state your credentials, either.

Russn8r

You never do either. Not your real ones.

I don’t claim credentials.

Do I need to prove something to you? Do I give a F?

I’m not the dude pumping himself up with a fantasy bio, sock puppets, snark, projection, and other passive-aggressive effeminate leftist techniques. That would be you, WillTEXWBFORDWill et ilk.

Nor do I pretend I walk through TSA checkpoints armed and call others cowards if they don’t. That’s something an AGENT would do.

Did you know Albert Einstein was “qualified” to teach high school mathematics?

Last edited 2 years ago by Russn8r
Wild Bill

Your assertions are based upon nothing other than your own credibility. You put yourself in this position. I think that you have no credentials to claim.
All the rest of this morning’s little fit are irrelevant, and disconnected.

JSNMGC

Political science degrees, military science degrees, and law degrees from unknown schools and unknown work experience (other than army and running a ranch) are not relevant credentials for all topics. I’m not stating those are your degrees, but you haven’t indicated your specific degrees or all your work experience. Again, not that degrees and experience, even if relevant, make the argument. The argument stands on its own. If you are going to continue to insist credentials are important to an argument, you may want to consider listing yours – what schools for all the degrees, what specific degrees, and the… Read more »

Last edited 2 years ago by JSNMGC
Wild Bill

At least I have degrees and accomplishments, and I don’t put my credibility in question. I footnote. Hamline Univ., and UVA. And you?

Russn8r

“argumentum ad verecundiam… appealing to authority rather than reason…”

Those who must appeal to alleged degrees & accomplishments to deflect from issues & reasoning are pathetic, insecure, dishonest, delusional weasels.

Every teacher in L.A. Unified, the crappiest school district in the USA, is “qualified” & “credentialed”. Meanwhile, Albert Einstein wasn’t “qualified” to teach there.

Your qualifications & ranch would have no bearing on the issues here and would not make your arguments less lame even if they weren’t fantasies.

Hemline U. LOL

Wild Bill

You put your credibility into issue. Why should anyone believe you as you have accomplished nothing.
Then someone asked my creds, which I am glad to share.
Still nothing from you and that other one.
You are desperate to sound like an educated person … but you are not. You are bright green with jealousy and self hate.

Russn8r

“Dr. Bill”

“LMFAO!!!”

JSNMGC

You continue to confuse:

  • Jealousy and envy
  • Loose and lose
  • Effect and affect

You also continue to appeal to a crowd “why should anyone . . .”

You also make wild accusations.

Make your argument – it should stand on its own.

Will

WB,”nothing from you and that other one” LMFAO! These two are gutter trash that don’t want to talk about credentials. Very common when this scum has none.

JSNMGC

Will(“TEX”) “WB,”nothing from you and that other one” LMFAO! These two are gutter trash that don’t want to talk about credentials. Very common when this scum has none.” Reply to Will (“TEX”): No Will/TEX, it is common for people who have degrees from top tier schools, in subjects relevant to the topic being discussed, and who have extensive experience in the subject matter to be secure in their knowledge and argue the point without leaning on their credentials. Some other people are insecure in their ability to make a point and do as you do (bluster and stomp their feet).… Read more »

Wild Bill

He argues like a juvenile. I even gave him a hint about the Dickens Christmas Story.
You might be right. I hope that you are back safely in God’s country! MC.

Russn8r

You deflected like a coward so long ago you don’t even know what you’re arguing about anymore. Others talk issues while you hump fantasy “credentials” and chat it up with your little sock puppet chimp TEX to compensate for your insecurity.

Russn8r

You’re so confused with all your sock puppets, you forget who’s talking, Dr Bill.

Wild Bill

LTC. I don’t use Dr.

Russn8r

Bro! Pffffft. MC! Bro.

JSNMGC

I’ve stated numerous times, an argument should stand on its own. You are the one who brings credentials into arguments. You are proud of your credentials and used them to prop up your argument. Since you used your credentials as support for your argument (a weak play), I asked what those credentials were – what degrees, what schools, and what work experience. You still have not provided your degrees and your work experience. If you are going to lean on your credentials, provide them. I’ll argue my points on their merits (but I know there are people here whose credentials… Read more »

Wild Bill

That is a false recitation of the history of the thread. Have you forgotten or is this intentional.

JSNMGC

No, it’s correct. You have done what I described over multiple threads.

Now, you make a false assertion and, based on that, attempt to offer two false choices.

These credentials, that are so important to you, what are they? What specific degrees did you earn at each institution? What work experience do you have?

Russn8r

Oh, poor baby. Did I hurt your feelings?

Isn’t it time to toss some bananas to the chimp on your fantasy ranch with your fantasy “credentials”?

BTW, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex has credentials. So does “Doctor” Jill Biden. They’re worth about as much as yours.

Russn8r

“Hey limp brain,me & Will Bill we’re thinking about hiring you & numb nuts to shovel horse shit out at his ranch in TEXAS.” -Will/TEX/FordWILL/WB…

Duh HUH!!!

“Me & my WB! Hey, hey, hey, WBeeeeee yeahh!”

Did WB toss you some extra peanuts today?

MC!!!!!!!!!

Last edited 2 years ago by Russn8r
Wild Bill

It is just the alcohol talking.

Wild Bill

At least shoveling horse shit is one cred on his resume that can be verified.

Wild Bill

You will be visited by three ghosts … You little Dickens, you.

Russn8r

“You will be visited by three ghosts…You little Dickens, you.”

So that’s you threatening…again. Are they ghost ranchers?

Wild Bill

A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. You don’t get it, which really evidences a lack of knowledge.

Russn8r

Yes, but do they have CREDENTIALS? Did they go to Hemline U?

Wild Bill

You … hurt … Who would pay any attention to you?

Wild Bill

Walk through TSA? That was someone else, rummy.

Russn8r

You’re so F’d up with your sock puppets, you don’t even know that was a reply to someone else.

Wild Bill

How would you know? You have none to claim.

Wild Bill

You should change your name to Self8r.

Will

WB,I have a suggestion of what that moron could change his name to. But it’s just possible a women might be signed-in here tonight so I best not.

Russn8r

That’s weak even for you. How many times will you respond to the same comment, rummy?

Wild Bill

Until you get the joke. That is how many.

Russn8r

Lucky you. That’s bad advice for most people.

hoss

Just because there’s an R after their name doesn’t me they’re conservative.

Grigori

I like how they included 18-20 year olds. I hope it passes!

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UncleT

Ohio has been trying to get Constitutional Carry since 1995 and not until this year it has made it to the state Senate fot the first time ever. Never made it out of committees until last year.. GOP controls all state branches and still the main fight against it is coming from THE REPUBLICANS. If they get it to DeWine’s desk, I’ll be shocked if he signs it. But like what W.Va. Did with a Democrat Governor at the time, they could over ride his veto. The GOP are totalitarian as the Dems just in different ways.

Green Mtn. Boy

It already is the law of the land at least according to the Constitution.

swmft

we need state police to enforce title 18 and arrest feds doing illegal things atf raid begets 50 jailed agents

HLB

Title 18, Section 930, Subsection D, Paragraph 3 needs enforcing.

HLB

Bubba

It would also be great to see her squished by a steam roller.

willyd

Make more than one pass, make sure she’s flat, make her a sail, use it as a kite, with a short tail for a sure crash and burn!!!!!!!!!

nrringlee

An armed society is a polite society. I live in a town noted for its churches and its gun stores. When trouble comes to my little village is drifts in from some of the surrounding “Blue Utopias” like Kalifornia and Las Vegas. Needless to say rude behavior does not prosper here.

3l120

Sounds like where I live in S. Utah. Amazing how many open carry here. Makes you wonder how many are concealed carry. Not a lot of violent crime here.

JSNMGC

When you were with the LAPD, what would you have done if you saw someone (who didn’t look like a cop) walking down the street open carrying?

JSNMGC

The enforcers do not like pointing out how many of them worked in CA, OR, and WA for two decades or more enforcing gun laws more onerous than what the BATFE enforces, then they retire to UT, ID, or WY and brag about how good the gun laws are where they live.

Have you ever stopped and thought about that before?

JSNMGC

A shooting range in Jackson hired a retired California gun law enforcer (I think he may have been with LAPD) to be the manager a few years ago. He promptly raised one of those desecrated American flags (the black and white ones with the blue line through it). The group I shoot with let our memberships expire. If you want to insist you belong to an exclusive club, be prepared to be excluded. If you want to enforce onerous gun laws in one state and then retire to a state with better gun laws, be prepared to feel a little… Read more »

Wild Bill

Apparently not.

JSNMGC

Why is that apparent to you?

Mikial

You’re lucky to be in Utah. I used to live there and would like to get back out West to Idaho or Wyoming. These days I’m in Virginia where we are still fighting the good fight for our right of self defense. At least we made some progress this past election.

Montana454Casull

I just love this because I can travel to all the surrounding states and carry concealed without a permit . The states I cannot I will not be visiting its that simple . Free states deserve to have people from other states spend thier money there , the rest don’t .

Ronnie

I bet that Criminals all have SECOND THOUGHTS” of commiting any crimes in areas / cities or towns !lmao – that’s is what we need – to combat crime- Is citizens ARMED !

Hazcat

DeSantis does not want this bill. If he did he would be pushing for it. I have asked him to several times and did not even get a response. DeSantis is pure politician. He wants to play both sides so he talks tough and does nothing.

Will

DeSantis keeps pushing ERPO’too. When it comes down to it he will never sign this bill. It makes no difference what he says now he won’t sign it.

Hazcat

He figures he has our vote because we won’t vote for Freid so he doesn’t have to do anything for us. Florida already has ERPO and he has done nothing to repeal it. His claim to ‘fame’ for 2A is allowing carry in churches with schools IF the church allows it.

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Russn8r

“Governor DeSantis agreed that he would sign HB 103 if it reaches his desk. The bill would remove any licensing requirement for concealed weapons for Florida citizens.”

Will you stop lying about DeSantis now, Hazcat?

Russn8r

Evidence?

Russn8r

“Governor DeSantis agreed that he would sign HB 103 if it reaches his desk. The bill would remove any licensing requirement for concealed weapons for Florida citizens.”

You can stop lying about DeSantis now, TEX. But you won’t.

Ansel Hazen

Good to see the cover pic changed to reflect safer carry practice.

JSNMGC

According to current Florida law, you can open carry while fishing, hunting, or camping or going to/from such a spot.

Check out the videos of what happens to people who actually follow that law. You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride (or the hassle). A certain percentage of cops enforce their feelings about the matter, not the law.

gregs

revoking qualified immunity would be beneficial to stop these unconstitutional actions by leo’s.

Levelhead

I’m not going to comment on the content of the post. Plenty of those. But I strongly feel that accompanying photos, included by people who should know better, should always reflect best practices. If only one person sees the picture of the bozo with the gun stuck in his pants and thinks, OH, I should carry that way and save money on a holster, then this article has done more harm than good. We know that there are people who don’t know any better than to accept everything they see as the truth.

Wild Bill

Good observation, and Hollywood movies, from 1950s westerns to John Wick, are poor examples, too! MC, brother.

nrringlee

Idiot behavior is infectious. Good catch.

Wild Bill

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Roland T. Gunner

That just might be the scariest thing I have ever heard.

Wild Bill

Yeah, They are a product of the educational system and will be voters!

Bubba

Not sure why Ammolands Editor does not have this type of thing proofed. It’s really embarrassing when this kind of thing happens. Especially when it is in such poor taste to the CCW community.
@Dan Wos. How can you claim to be a a 2A supporter and allow that “Gang Banger” picture to be part of your article? We’re better then this. Come on people.

RicktheBear

To answer the headline: no.

Slave states like HI, NJ, CA will, um, bitterly cling to control over their bumpkins.

Wild Bill

Yep, there is no profit in letting their citizens be free. There is great profit in having a state full of serfs. Restore the Republic. And MC.

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JSNMGC

Probably – and the people living in those states who oppose unconstitutional laws will continue to be oppressed by enforcers who enforce unconstiutional laws.

Day after day, a subset of the posters on this site blame the victims.

Do you think John Petrolino is a “bumpkin,” or a patriot who has decided to stay in NJ and push back against unconstitutional laws?

TheWraith

> There are currently 21 Constitutional Carry states including…

You missed: Iowa.

Plus, if you count the states you DID list – you only listed 20, not 21.

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Russn8r

It’s not Constitutional Carry. How many “gun free” zones were there in 1789 & 1792 when the Constitution & 2A were adopted?

Russn8r

!…!

Russn8r

CUCK ABBOTT
…expressed concern about private sales:

“A stranger can sell a gun to another stranger & that’s a danger” said Abbott.

Assault weapons,” Abbott said, “no coalescence of any type of solution, but strategies on the table we continue to talk about.”

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/08/22/could-texas-change-its-gun-laws-after-el-paso-mass-shooting-gov-abbott-opens-talks-as-nra-says-no-no-and-no/

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JSNMGC

Well, we can’t just have “civilians” selling guns to one another or government employees won’t know who has what.

Russn8r

True. But it’s ok to let civilians do sex changes on children in TEXAS.

How Abbott Killed a Ban on Child Sex Change Surgeries
https://texasscorecard.com/podcasts/how-burrows-phelan-abbott-killed-a-ban-on-sex-change-surgeries-in-texas-episode-140

Abbott-Phelan take $250k from sex-change mills
https://nationalfile.com/texas-abbott-patrick-house-speaker-received-250k-from-clinic-that-chemically-castrates-transgender-kids/

Last edited 2 years ago by Russn8r
JSNMGC

Have you seen a response from Abbott?

Russn8r

“Awaiting for approval”

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Russn8r

I’d seriously like to know why this was held for censorship…

No. You? I’ve seen enough to know his species: RINO. Tx would’ve passed school choice vouchers, banned p0rn & orientation-evangelism in K – 12, zeroed the property tax, restored election fraud to a felony, banned child $ex change surgery, stopped illegal invasion, and other key agenda items if it weren’t for Abbott’s & Phelan’s obstruction games.

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Russn8r

My response to you is still “Awaiting for approval” from yesterday.

JSNMGC

Thanks.

Bubba

Lol…. Sarcasm. I like it.

Russn8r

Vichy “Republican” TEXAS Cuck Abbott didn’t make TEXAS part of anything. He signed a bill – only does the right thing under heavy pressure from real Rs.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2020/02/03/texans-overwhelmingly-want-gun-background-checks-are-open-to-red-flag-laws-dmn-ut-tyler-poll-finds/

“Abbott suggested red-flag laws after 10 were killed in a 2018 mass school shooting, but later backed away from the idea.

[Red Flag] is opposed by Jack Wilson who returned fire at his church, and Stephen Willeford who confronted the gunman in a shooting that left 26 parishioners dead.

“If somebody wants a gun they can get it whenever they want, red flag laws or not”, Wilson said

Ronnie

ALL TRUE – it would Not Matter if ALL Citizens were Disarmed – THAT WOULD GIVE “CRIMINALS ” FULL REIGN OVER EVERY CITY AND TOWN! But if the OPPOSITE WAS – Every CITIZEN GIVEN ” the CHOICE ” TO CARRY – IT Would Tell the CRIMINALS + Watch out ! Because We The People Will Shoot Back!

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Ed

Carrying a firearm in a manner as you see fit is not a right granted by the government. It is a right of your existence and your continued existence. Stop asking the government to pass on rights they can’t grant you. If you need them to do anything they can recognize that right and step aside.

JSNMGC

TEX(“Will”) – 12/9/21:

“I’m just so glad TEXAS Gov Greg Abbott made TEXAS part of that exclusive club. Lots of happy Texans right now!”

Response to TEX/Will/FORD Will/Forrest, Forrest Gump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F6Tq2nTuMc&ab_channel=EbonyIvory