Deep State Takes Direct Aim At What It Calls America’s “Gun Culture” ~ VIDEO

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Video ~ China’s Foreign Ministry on Americans’ Second Amendment rights: “That’s the freedom the US advocates — freedom to shoot other people.”

New York – -(AmmoLand.com)- The fundamental, unalienable, absolute right of the people to keep and bear arms, as codified in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is deeply rooted in our culture. There is no doubt about that. No one can reasonably deny this. In fact, the Communist Chinese and the Deep State both readily acknowledge the import of the right codified in the Second Amendment even as they abhor and disdainfully object to it.

But, the use of the specific phrase ‘Gun Culture,’ is a political fiction, a wholly made-up terminology, no less so than is the expression ‘Assault Weapon.’ Both are manufactured phrases that Neo-Marxists and Neoliberal Globalist propagandists concocted to use and exploit against the American people in order to hobble, demoralize, and disrupt American society and America’s noble institutions.

Their goal is not abstruse.

They seek no less than the evisceration of the Second Amendment and the eradication of a free Constitutional Republic.

And, through both their words and actions, the accomplishment of that goal has become increasingly plain. They intend to replace the Republic with an altogether alien and artificial political, social, economic, cultural, juridical construct—a nightmarish massive Collectivist scheme. They fancy an America as a totalitarian enclave devoid of geographical borders, devoid of a common language, devoid of National identity, and harboring an assemblage of ragtag, itinerants, completely dependent on the grace of Government to fulfill their minimum basic needs. If there is a throwback to an early age, to be seen in all of this, it is in their belief system and not that of American Patriots.

America’s Deep State Actors and Neoliberal Globalists imagine a world before the rise of modern nation-states, a neo-Feudalism, where a few “Lords” live in luxury and everyone else devolves to a state of penury and repression. And why would the American citizenry acquiesce to this?

The forces that crush nation-states view THIS Nation’s uniqueness not as a thing to be applauded and cherished but as a thing to be denigrated, ridiculed, denied, and ultimately destroyed. They want to convince the American people that their free Constitutional Republic is not worth salvaging.

And as the economy continues to suffer—all of it by design—and as Government doggedly continues to impose rapacious authoritarian policies on the people, and as the Government insidiously drives more and more people to destitution, many Americans are beginning to lose faith in both themselves and in the Republic; many are looking to Government for succor and protection. And all of this is as intended by the forces that crush entire nations into submission.

And our enemies blame the breakdown of law and order they themselves have fostered and nurtured not on the devious Government policy goals and initiatives—upon which breakdown of societal order is based—but on America’s “Gun Culture.”

These malevolent, maleficent, malignant forces disingenuously argue the fault is not of their own making—that none of the problems plaguing America of late is of their own making—but that it is the result of America’s indefatigable “love of Guns,” of the omnipresence of a “Gun Culture” that permeates all of American society and that has existed since the dawn of the Republic. And they loudly bray that it is this “Gun Culture” that is the singular cause of the mayhem plaguing many of the Country’s major Cities; that it is this “Gun Culture” that manifests in cities around the Country as out-of-control “Gun Violence,” or so they say. But is this true? No!

There Is No “Gun Culture” In America, And There Never Was

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They seek the evisceration of the Second Amendment & the eradication of a free Constitutional Republic. There IS NO “GUN CULTURE” in America. iStock

Let us be clear: There IS NO “GUN CULTURE” in America. There IS, though, a unique “AMERICAN CULTURE.” And the two of them are not the same thing.

This requires explication as much falsehood is generated and spouted over it and many gun owners may not be aware of it. The propaganda surrounding this notion and all the other notions thrust on the American people is the product of a long insidious campaign planned and executed by the Neo-Marxist/Neoliberal Globalist-controlled Government. And they operate in tandem with the major technology companies and with the legacy Press. Their intention is to injure and soften the American psyche. And they have become very adept at it.

Through an obvious long-standing—albeit never openly admitted incestuous relationship—the bloated Federal Government, the large-scale Legacy Press, and the massive Social Media/Technology companies have, for years, combined their forces in a campaign to confuse, distract, and discourage the American public in a calculated attempt to prevent the public from focusing on the salient problem facing the Country: the very real possibility of the loss of it.

For that is the plan. It was always their plan. It is the finale sought by the ruthless forces that seek to crush a free Constitutional Republic, and with that, to crush the spirit of the American people.

The Neo-Marxists and Neoliberal Globalists would never admit this and they still don’t. But they cannot reasonably deny it; the Nation is falling apart at the seams. Obviously, they don’t wish to take credit for that, even as they are the ones that planned for it. But, they can’t very well blame Trump, the MAGA Movement, or the American people for the multiplicity of serious ills plaguing society. So, they don’t mention any of it. Rather they focus on quietly instituting more of the same, and focusing attention on the Midterm Elections. For, the longer they can retain Governmental power, the more fully entrenched they become, and the more time they have to accomplish their goal of the complete dismantling of the Country.

And the Country is weakening and dying a slow death on all major indices: socially, culturally, politically, geopolitically, and juridically.

The pity of it is that it need not have been so. It has less to do with the fact of it and more that Americans have only themselves to blame for it. All too many of them continually vote into high Office the vilest, vicious, inept, contemptible creatures ever to have been spawned.

And why is that? There is an answer. The answer is found in the Deep State’s merciless attack on America’s Spirit and Will.


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Arizona

Actually, yes indeed, there IS a “gun culture”. It is comprised of red blooded patriots who exercise their rights and enjoy building, buying, collecting a d using firearms. Some are competitive shooters, some hobbyists, some carry daily for work, some carry for defense. They innovate and create new firearms and accessories.

As to the dregs of humanity who wish to destroy the USA and relegate the 2nd amendment and the entire Constitution to the trash heap of history, we say, “come and just TRY to take it, Bring it on!”

Knute Knute

Those are gun groups, and gun people, NOT a “gun culture”. The word; “culture” tends more towards meaning traditions and religious beliefs, as opposed to the things people do for fun or profit. The Eskimo’s all hunt and carry rifles with them everywhere, but it isn’t a tradition or a belief… it’s a necessity! The world record grizzly bear was taken in 1953 by an old woman with a rimfire! So I tend to agree with the Arbalest Group. Guns aren’t so much a tradition(or ‘culture’, but I don’t like that word. it’s ambiguous) in the US, as they are… Read more »

Ansel Hazen

If it pisses off the Chinese or Demtards here in the US call it whatever you want.

Arizona

You are regularly reading and posting thoughts about guns. You are part of the gun culture. Deny it all you like, it doesn’t change the fact.

Knute Knute

In what way does posting facts become a “culture”?
2+2=4. Am I now part of a “math culture”? Why not? Think for just a bit. Answer some questions for once, instead of just repeating that which you believe, or insulting anyone who won’t bow to your ‘wisdom’. Try it, you might find that you like it!
Or don’t. Your credibility, or lack of same, means nothing to me.

swmft

demorats are part of a culture, one like you find in the back of the fridge after being out of the country for a year

Wild Bill

Good humor!

Wild Bill

That fits!

Knute Knute

Or in tiny pieces. One hasn’t really lived until one has lit off a pound(or more… 🙂 ) of explosive under a 25″ CRT and watched what happens!

Russn8r

Reminds me of Office Space

Think for yourself

Nikita Khrushchev said, “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within…” I think most nations believe that to physically invade the USA would not go well for them. Our destruction has been and currently is happening from within all of our major institutions. How do God fearing patriotic citizens play a part in restoring love and pride in our founding principals when every institution is infested with socialists and communists who live as capitalists and will argue the virtues of their beliefs till they’re blue in… Read more »

swmft

that is how the socialists have been destroying things , pass lies in school to young minds repeat the lies over and over to them and their children, ostracize people who see through the lies to keep them quiet …..sound about right has been happening a long time

john

Today it is not Khrushchev and the russians, beware it is the chinese and they are 2.5 million strong living here in the United States. They have written books also today the chinese are the influencers on social media with corporate america doing business in China, they own the democrats

Bill

Chinese communists have never had anything against the freedom to shoot other people.

Knute Knute

But that’s only when they are the ones doing the shooting. Like always, humans tend towards; “Alright for me, but not for thee…”

Boz

The 2nd Amendment can NOT, nor will EVER be “eviscerated”. It is self-preserving, it is the only amendment that has the ability to defend itself, as well as defend other amendments. We have not come to the point, yet, that the 2nd Amendment has been fully activated and used. If When it does, it will be ALL-IN, and thus will ensure its self-preservation and do what it was put there to do. Woe to those who are on the other side attacking it. At that point the 2nd Amendment will give no quarter, as a momma bear defending her cubs,… Read more »

JSNMGC

It already has been eviscerated.

There are hundreds of thousands of people enforcing the infringements (tens of thousands of them). Many firearm owners thank them for doing so.

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Wild Bill

Not to quibble, but the Second Amendment only recognizes the, pre-Constitution, Right to keep and carry the means to make a meaningful defense of self, family, community, and our nation.
That Right is not dependent on the Second Amendment. So to say the amendment is eviscerated is an argument not worth having. IMHO.

JSNMGC

“Not to quibble, but the Second Amendment only recognizes the, pre-Constitution, Right to keep and carry the means to make a meaningful defense of self, family, community, and our nation.”

Yes, I know.

“That Right is not dependent on the Second Amendment.”

Yes, I know.

“So to say the amendment is eviscerated is an argument not worth having. IMHO.”

That’s where you are wrong.

Wild Bill

Have it your way.

Russn8r

Why don’t you stop harassing him?

JSNMGC

“He’s trying to drive away commentors and rule the board”

Oh, the humanity!

Russn8r

“The horror…The horror…”

I don’t live for votes. It’d be nice to see faux pro-gun LEO-ATFBI sock-puppet votedowns offset by 2A civilians. It happens to an extent, but honest civilians don’t troll or have sock pups, while dishonest LEO-ATFBI curators troll with as many troll pups as they want.

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Russn8r

~”Not to quibble, but [quibble].” Come on, you know what he means.

JSNMGC

He’s arguing a point I didn’t make.

Russn8r

The usual deflection, followed by the usual chickenshit sock-puppet votedown.

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JSNMGC

Anything to avoid acknowledging the obvious:

  • There are tens of thousands of gun laws that have been enforced for decades by enforcers.
  • As long as non-violent taxpayers support the people enforcing gun laws, there will be more gun laws that are enforced.
john

They only enforce the laws that will obtain money or votes.

JSNMGC

You mistook who “they” are – “they” are the ones actually putting handcuffs on people. “They” don’t care about votes, “they” care about their government job, their dental plan, and their pension.

“They” enforce laws they want to enforce or laws they are ordered to enforce (against those whom their boss wants them enforced).

“There is no law so unjust, so heinous, so totalitarian that the majority of LEOs won’t enforce it.”

JSNMGC

18 hours a day, every day.

Do you think your downvotes change reality?

Do something to change how enforcers behave if you want people to have a better opinion of them.

As a side note, consider getting outside tomorrow and enjoy the great outdoors. It was single digits and sunny here today – had a great time snowshoeing with some fellow freedom-loving Americans.

Stag

I guess you missed all those arms laws, huh? Man, are you in for a surprise when you wake up!

Coelacanth

With the current crop of legislators in the District of Corruption, this is exactly why the Second Amendment was enshrined in the Constitution.

john

Gun culture in some middle eastern countries owning a rifle begins as a young boy it is a culture. That has never been true here in the United States the shooting world has always be a percentage of the public. That said some folks have firearms passed down for one generation to another or own one for protection. The second amendment is being challenged the democrats have learned to use the lower courts to altar the constitution. The Obama administration’s went as far as to send John Kerry to the UN altering our second amendment agreement Un Arms Treaty. Trump… Read more »

Wild Bill

I am sure that it is a percentage in the Middle East, too. “Never been true, here, in the United Sates…” I dunno. Every boy in my high school class had at least a .22. When I enlisted a very high percentage of the recruits knew knew how to shoot. I am thinking that the percentage in the US is higher than you think. I could be wrong.

The rest of what you wrote, I liked.

john

Yes I learned to shoot at a young age in house that had restrictions on when and were I could shoot. Never ever touch a firearm in that house growing up without my father present that was the rule and you did not break the rule. At eleven years of age for a birthday present I got a 177 cal winchester target air rifle to sharpen my shooting skills.That was my responsibility to safeguard it was not a toy it also came with lockable hard case where it slept.. We had a trap in the basement which was 40 feet… Read more »

Wild Bill

I read the book! He was a credit to the name … American!

Knute Knute

Speaking of real American heros, is anyone aware of the story of Sgt. Roy Benavidez?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oUtJxE4sjs

Wild Bill

Yes.

Knute Knute

IMO, not only a hero… but just not a credible story. Total fiction. Not possible. If it wasn’t for all the primary documentation…. plus the MofH, plus all the witnesses, plus the horse’s mouth…. I’d claim it a bullshit story. NO ONE could even live, let alone fight, through all of that. Yet he did.
It’s a story of how anybody can be a superman. We just have to want to badly enough!

Wild Bill

If you go to Ft. Bragg, at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center, there is the Hall of Heros. It is a room filled with tall four sided pillars. On the four faces of each pillar there are the pictures and official accounts of all of the modern era MOH holders … most were confirmed posthumously.
It is a very humbling experience to go there.

Russn8r

Read it. Great book. Knew his CO.

Wild Bill

 You knew LTC Ralph Drake? How?

Wild Bill

Hmmm, no responce. Funny, he usually has lots to say.

JSNMGC

Spell checker acting up again?

I normally don’t point out spelling errors, but you live in a glass house and really shouldn’t throw stones.

Wild Bill

Must have been on the fritz because usually it has an opinion of what I spell.

swmft

a black woman leftist Opra

Oldman

Rumor last night I heard on Fox was that Brandon was gonna have Kameltoe resign and be nominated for Justice and then have Piglosi become VP. Let’s go Brandon!

Finnky

I expect harris would do almost anything for such an appointment. On the other hand “Piglosi” would be highly unlikely to accept the “promotion”. At this point she’d be looking at two years in a prestigious office with zero power instead of the rest of her life as one of the most powerful people in the world.
Biden would have to nominate a new VP – and that nominee would have to get through senate confirmation. Given the effort it takes to get low level appointees confirmed – it’s hard to believe we’d get a replacement VP during current term.

Oldman

I am almost done reading Gingrich’s book Beyoond Biden. It actually gives me some hope for my grandchildren. Brandon is on the ropes… If he gets out of the corner he will instantly go down in flames and all this stuff about the Putin invasion and the supreme justice nomination is just a diversion to keep him off of having to go talk to the press again. He is NOT up to the job now and never ever was. He is discriminating against everybody who is white and or male and that is against our laws.

Oldman

Sure would, but honestly, everything Brandon does is choreographed by ? Could be numerous entitities besides China, maybe?

swmft

likely they were trying to talk him into it and announced it to apply pressure, you are old we will loose senate in mid terms need to replace you before that happens trump will choose someone you would not approve of

willyd

O V he isn’t worth the time to get into it with him!!!!!!!!!

JayDubya

Yeah, obama would be a real bummer.

swmft

obummers wife

john

Of course they are they are democrats and are sleeping with the enemy Think GAIN OF FUNCTION american tax dollars. Coronavirus the largest terror attack in history and the democrats go back to business as usual. Why because they are in on it from day one.

Arizona Don

Much as been said about gun owners and guns in the United States of America. A considerable amount of what has been said is both unfounded and untrue. The untruth for the most part comes from the far left leaning citizens of this country who would like to fundamentally transform it into something no one has asked for few if any citizens understand including those proposing the change and even fewer will ever accept the transformation at least peacefully. Currently Biden says he is going to come after out guns. It seems reasonable to believe that is his intent, desire and confiscation is… Read more »

JSNMGC

“They” have already bullied good people into not carrying firearms in the places they most need them. “They” will keep enforcing new laws until people are bullied into hiding most of their firearms. “They” will follow orders to confiscate firearms from a list of people created by the people who determine whether they keep their jobs. “They” will work with the media (as they have done before) to create a false narrative about the people whose firearms they confiscate. The people whose firearms are taken will be portrayed as “far right extremists who are white supremacists and who committed hate… Read more »

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Oldman

Odd, you’d say that. If you got rid of all your TVs decades ago then how do you know Tucker has a piece coming on Soros? Enquiring minds want to know….

Finnky

I’d rather he hung on for another two and a half to three years. Leave no time for nomination and confirmation and let the next POTUS nominate a replacement.

Crev

We know better. It’s always governments that get out of control and turn the guns on their own Citizens. China’s CCP government began that way. Canada and Australia are quickly devolving into this.

swmft

so they have radon like the drywall and other building products

Knute Knute

Because they can only keep the vaccine’s “emergency” approval if NO OTHER treatments exist?

Coelacanth

The speaker represents a government that harvests organs from helpless victims of their evil. This is monstrous evil folks, brought to you by the CCP.

Knute Knute

Par for the course. I’ve watched a hundred, including many that were DAYS old, just vanish down the memory hole.

Rob

Do you know this personally (that is, you’ve eyeballed them while holding them in your mittens) or are you just repeating what you heard? It matters.

Rob

You didn’t answer the question. Try again.

AZ Lefty

Funny how it was Trump with the “secret” CCP bank account

JSNMGC

Lots – they pay the majority of income taxes.

Russn8r

They’re not dodging taxes. It’s the law. Do you think people should have to pay capital gains tax on unrealized gains? Careful what you wish for.

JSNMGC

Yes, salaries, bonuses, etc. – all of which are taxed at an extremely high tax rate.

You should thank those people for their service.

Russn8r

Not sure what point you’re trying to make.

Russn8r

“Typical Quibble”? It’s no quibble.

“more than capital gains & we all know it!”

Really? What EXACTLY? You can’t explain your AOC position, so “we” DON’T all know it.

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Russn8r

I still don’t understand. Taxing “capital gains” before sale is a tax on phantom income – dangerous.

I actually think billionaires should pay heavy inheritance tax. Look what happens to virtually all the big family wealth given to the kids of the Fords, etc. The descendants never work a day in their lives, feel guilty, get “liberal” with OUR money.

JSNMGC

This discussion was had here before. It was painful – some people just want to believe things that are not true. Most of the mega-wealthy have extremely complicated tax structures and they are able to take advantage of items in the tax code that merely “wealthy” people can’t. The top 10% of earners pay about 70% of federal income taxes. That group of people includes many corporate executives of small and mid-size corporations who earn less than a million per year (base, bonus, taxable benefits, exercised stock options, etc.). Their income is all W-2. They actually get less deductions than… Read more »

Russn8r

You’re making AOC noises.

Russn8r

As they should be. So what? You’re claiming that using THE LAW to legally avoid taxes is wrong. An AOC noise.

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Knute Knute

As well as sounding quite math challenged. How can anyone think that there’s a two(or more) tier system of property and sales taxes in the US? Has anyone ever heard of a State with more than ONE sales tax rate?
His quibble will likely be that the rich pay more property tax because they have more valuable houses, or something equally absurd.

JSNMGC

“As well as sounding quite math challenged. How can anyone think that there’s a two(or more) tier system of property and sales taxes in the US?” Who thinks this?   “Has anyone ever heard of a State with more than ONE sales tax rate?”   Why do you ask? “His quibble will likely be that the rich pay more property tax because they have more valuable houses, or something equally absurd.”   Why is that absurd? The average wealthy person owns a more valuable house than the average person who is not wealthy. On average, they pay more property tax. They also pay… Read more »

Finnky

Far as property taxes go, in Texas and many other states there is a ‘homestead’ exemption – under which one does not pay taxes on full value of one’s first home. If your house is worth no more than the exemption – you are getting a free ride for all the state and local services paid for through property taxes. Of course rich people tend to own more valuable homes – and they pay a higher percentage of that value in property taxes. Many rich people live in very expensive areas – in which $100k is barely a living wage,… Read more »

JSNMGC

“If you are suggesting that the income earned by lawyers collecting the fees is not taxable, you would be wrong.”

I didn’t say anything about income earned by lawyers.

As far as the rest of what you wrote, you don’t need to explain taxable income to me.

JSNMGC

Too sensitive? No, your question was too dumb. You were “told?” By whom?

It kind of reminded me of your thoughts on the Chinese buying major corporations. You heard, you were told, Google told you, etc. You were happily speculating rather than just looking it up.

Is it possible you are confusing sales tax with income tax? Lawyers are typically exempt from charging sales tax on the services to their clients. Lawyers are subject to income taxes on their taxable earnings.

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JSNMGC

“Why does that sound like something saki would say ?” ~ Oldvet

Do you think lawyers are not subject to income tax?

JSNMGC

“You tell me . Are you telling they don’t ‘get around’ a lot of taxes ? How was it you said, ‘use the laws’ ?” ~ Oldvet

I already told you lawyers are subject to income taxes.

My comments originated from this comment you made:

“So that makes him a tax evader what millionaire (and higher) businessman isn’t ?” ~ Oldvet

After that, you started talking about lawyers.

What is your point?

JSNMGC

“that was a comment relating to Trump .” ~ Oldvet

What is your point to all of your comments about taxes?

JSNMGC

“More about lawyers , DC political critters in DC , Who wrote those laws ,who benefits etc. Wouldn’t you agree that “most” senators and congresspersons were for a long time lawyers . Now thought it seems Dr’s have made appearance . We could also go into Insider Trading and laws about that .” ~ Oldvet Tax lawyers are one of the many groups of people who have worked diligently to make the tax code the mess it is today. Yes, I agree, a large percentage of U.S. legislators are/were lawyers. Many legislators have benefited from insider information and it’s sickening.… Read more »

JSNMGC

“That might be an interesting read .” ~ Oldvet

It is. He writes about not only stock deals, but real estate and other transactions from which politicians on both sides of the aisle have become wealthy.

There is a reason very few politicians have taken-up corruption within the legislature as one of their key initiatives.

JSNMGC

“Oh I see it ‘Using the laws to legally AVOID TAXES.'” ~ Oldvet

Tax avoidance is legal.

Tax evasion is not.

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JSNMGC

“Oh I see it’s all in the wording . What was it clinton said …’it depends what the meaning of IS IS’.” ~ Oldvet

No. Words have meanings.

Tax avoidance has an actual meaning.

Tax evasion has an actual meaning.

I’m trying to help you here, but you’re resistant to learning.

Wild Bill

No, just resistant to you. Like being resistant to a virus.

JSNMGC

“No, just resistant to you. Like being resistant to a virus.” ~ Wild Bill

He seems to have strong views on taxes. He missed an opportunity to learn and exchange viewpoints.

Wild Bill

What are your qualifications to speak on the topic of FIT that we all might learn from your expertise?

JSNMGC

“What are your qualifications to speak on the topic of FIT that we all might learn from your expertise?” – Wild Bill

We?

You are obsessed with knowing my background.

You are overly fixated on credentials.

Just for a change, you should consider just discussing topics/issues.

Wild Bill

You imply he could learn from you, all of us would like to know if you have any real knowledge to pass on. In truth you just like to be thought of as knowledgeable.

JSNMGC

“You imply he could learn from you, all of us would like to know if you have any real knowledge to pass on. In truth you just like to be thought of as knowledgeable.” ~ Wild Bill

“All of us?” Did you form a committee?

“In truth” – is that the truth, Wild Bill? After all of your lies, now you want to be perceived as the knowing the truth?

Is there something I wrote about taxes with which you disagree?

If Oldvet wants to discuss views on taxes, I have a little more time.

Wild Bill

I am sure that you have plenty of time. Do you have the expertise?

JSNMGC

“I am sure that you have plenty of time. Do you have the expertise?” ~ Wild Bill

“I am sure that you have plenty of time.”

One more thing you are wrong about.

“Do you have the expertise?”

I’ve told you many times, I’m not going to disclose my background. Your obsession is creepy.

Wild Bill

Translation: Never even took a class.

JSNMGC

“Translation: Never even took a class.” ~ Wild Bill

Wild Bill has spoken.

Wild Bill

In that about of time you could have made something up … some educational or work experience so that you would have a basis from which to speak.

JSNMGC

“In that about of time you could have made something up … some educational or work experience so that you would have a basis from which to speak.” ~ Wild Bill

Like I said, your obsession is creepy.

I’ve got things to do.

Wild Bill

I knew that you would run. All show and no stay.

Finnky

Don’t trust anyone on taxes. I’ve seen the IRS’s supposed experts reject returns despite being filled out correctly and including references to all relevant pieces of the tax code. No one knows everything about the code. You simply hear advice from anyone which may be helpful, then ask where to find the documentation. Read the code and apply it yourself! My expertise is minimal. I’ve simply read as much of the IRS instructions as I could stomach in process of doing my own taxes and dug into specialized pieces of corporate tax law at work related to assisting our accounting… Read more »

Wild Bill

And the IRS can not be held to any advice that they give, either!
Do request a Pub 17, though. It is free and you will never regret it.

Oldman

I’d say you have a lot more time. According to my calculations you could have anywhere between 11 and 12 hours left to get your quota in for today. As far as committee goes; what did you think Ammoland is? Most of the others on this committee have found you to be in contempt of normal, rational thinking and would like you, for the most part, give up on your posting here. I actually would like to learn more, but it is obvious it can’t be from you. Don’t you have an appointment with a 60 lb. bench press and… Read more »

Wild Bill

I concur. Oh and Pub 17 is free from the IRS, comes out new, each year, and has all the answers with examples without having to read the actual Internal Revenue Code.

JSNMGC

“I’d say you have a lot more time. According to my calculations you could have anywhere between 11 and 12 hours left to get your quota in for today. As far as committee goes; what did you think Ammoland is? Most of the others on this committee have found you to be in contempt of normal, rational thinking and would like you, for the most part, give up on your posting here. I actually would like to learn more, but it is obvious it can’t be from you. Don’t you have an appointment with a 60 lb. bench press and… Read more »

Wild Bill

You are a tough guy … on the internet.

JSNMGC

“You are a tough guy … on the internet.” ~ Wild Bill

Oldman is the one blustering. His comments are among the “insults” you fail to “observe.”

Wild Bill

More mischaracterization on your thin-skinned, hard core unemployable, agitprop, part.

Oldman

Well, thank you. I have to admit though, at 74 years of age, I really don’t feel that tough. Just know I’m tough enough to handle a 60 lb. bench presser with NO brain cells. Must be from all that pipe dream stuff you are smoking. Crack or Cannabis?

JSNMGC

“Well, thank you. I have to admit though, at 74 years of age, I really don’t feel that tough. Just know I’m tough enough to handle a 60 lb. bench presser with NO brain cells. Must be from all that pipe dream stuff you are smoking. Crack or Cannabis?” ~ Oldman

Enjoy the rest of your day.

Wild Bill

Yep, he lists all the clean and manly activities, but I bet that you are right … about the recreational drug use.

Oldman

I am not sure about recreational cracking. don’t think it’s possible to do that without getting strung out. I could be wrong, having never indulged myself. Look what it did to Hunter? Could be some resemblance there in the thought processes, tho.

Wild Bill

Well … “they” claim that Hunter became a great artistic painter on crack. Maybe this one will also be improved by the product!

Oldman

Maybe, but I hope he sticks to the painting, and not keep trying to convince others that he has superior intellect, cuz he don’t!.

Well, it is warming up outside and I got an appointment to oil up a couple ARs before it starts raining.

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Wild Bill

Sixty lbs is not bad, brother. On of the folks that we visit on Sundays is selling me a pile of ammunition because he has convinced himself that he can no longer shoot even his .30 cal carbine. So … you are doing well.

JSNMGC

“Isn’t that called misdirect ? Going off on a tangent to obfuscate . Those definitions had nothing to do with the people causing and committing the situation” ~ Oldvet

Which comment are you referencing?

JSNMGC

“Tax avoidance versus tax evasion” ~ Oldvet

No. I’m all for prosecuting tax evaders.

Tax avoidance is something you do and there is nothing wrong with it. If there is a deduction (e.g., mortgage interest) allowed by the tax code (“the law”), you take it, right?

The problems are:

  • The tax code allows for too many ways to exclude earnings from taxable income; and
  • Tax rates are too high.
Finnky

Tax code continues to be too complicated and incentivizes inefficient investment through deductions and exclusions which were not properly thought out. 2017 simplification helped, but too many political forces fighting to retain their perks – such as mortgage interest deduction. Tax rates are too high, but not sufficient to fund the government. Answer is to shrink the government – we (the entire country) have committed to expenses we cannot sustain. Answer is not deficit spending, and even more deficit spending — that leads to bankruptcy in some form or other. The fed won’t technically go bankrupt, but if the only… Read more »

JSNMGC

“Words have meaning , Until liberals decide to change the meaning . ~ Oldvet

I agree, but I would broaden that from “liberals” to “totalitarians.”

swmft

barter is a legal way to avoid income tax,there specific rules to it but totally legal, a famous tax free trade was fisher island for a yacht. another is mar a lago land deal when post acquired it

JSNMGC

“barter is a legal way to avoid income tax,there specific rules to it but totally legal, a famous tax free trade was fisher island for a yacht. another is mar a lago land deal when post acquired it” ~ swmft

You may want to check into the tax code and what it indicates about bartering.

Wild Bill

Although section 61 of the internal revenue code states that “Income is income from any source derived.” you are quite correct barter is legal. the IRS’ problem is figuring out the profit. No records, cash boot, and every exchange is “equal”.

JSNMGC

There is nothing illegal about bartering.

swmft may want to do a little research regarding his comment:

“barter is a legal way to avoid income tax,there specific rules to it but totally legal,

Emphasis added.

Application of the specific rules will frequently result in taxable income.

JSNMGC

“Why even the local ambulance chasers are millionaire’s.”

Some of them are. Why are you making that comment to me?

JSNMGC

“So are you a lawyer ? Simple yes or no will do .” ~ Oldvet

No.

Wild Bill

He is a barracks lawyer.

JSNMGC

“He is a barracks lawyer.” ~ Wild Bill

You can’t stop, can you?

It would be a more interesting discussion if you and Oldvet wanted to discuss whether the tax code should be changed and how it got to be the way it is.

Wild Bill

Oh gee. Dwell, I, in the periphery of your good graces.

JSNMGC

“It would just circle right back to where we are .” – Oldvet

I don’t think so. All of these things are true:

  • The tax code is a mess;
  • Many people commit tax evasion and should be prosecuted; and
  • Many wealthy people do not commit tax evasion and their effective tax rate is extremely high.
JSNMGC

“So what is your point ?” ~ Oldvet Going back to the comment you made: “So that makes him a tax evader what millionaire (and higher) businessman isn’t ?” There are many “millionaires” who are not tax evaders. Many of them pay extremely high effective tax rates. Those people who commit tax evasion should be prosecuted. The tax code should be changed (and simplified) and tax rates lowered. If those two things are done, the high profile people who have had low effective tax rates in the past will have higher effective tax rates and the people whose earnings are… Read more »

JSNMGC

“So what is your point ?” ~ Oldvet

Disagreement with your assertion:

“So that makes him a tax evader what millionaire (and higher) businessman isn’t ?” ~ Oldvet

I indicated many wealthy people are not tax evaders.

Wild Bill

Oh, now you work on the FIT fillings for many wealthy people? Again … no actual knowledge.

JSNMGC

“Oh, now you work on the FIT fillings for many wealthy people? Again … no actual knowledge.” ~ Wild Bill

Do you believe all wealthy people are tax evaders?

Wild Bill

I believe that, to anyone with experience or education, it is obvious that you talk through your hat.

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Wild Bill

You remember barracks lawyers … they thought that they knew everything, but they were just quibble artists.

swmft

In some states service fees are taxable(labor only) in others if no untaxed materials are used no labor is taxable US is mixed bag on taxes every state has different rules

swmft

florida is the same, but I have never seen a house here worth less than the exemption. florida initiated a save our homes tax rate increase cap because people were being taxed out of their homes, state was evicting 1000s of elderly and lower income people and selling properties in sweetheart deals to developers, many for less than the taxes due

Russn8r

Bullshit. Cali & other states DO have multiple property tax rates. The rich pay FAR LESS. Special “agricultural” tax breaks on their “ranches” & “farms” & “conservancies”. 1/4% vs 1-2%. So who’s math & fact challenged?

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swmft

Disney collecting taxes from visitors. they are the county government, so anyone who wants to have a business is paying them to supply services to their employees and they are exempt . bill gates foundation gets all the money he says how it is spent sooooooo tax free income warren buffet was paying less actual income tax than his secretary made some snide remark to koch brothers about paying fair share of taxes koch brothers were paying many times what he was on less income

Finnky

That is doing business. The state government pays you (through reduced taxes) to use your property in a manner they find beneficial. If I was holding a few hundred acres in central CA, you can bet I’d keep it agricultural as otherwise I could never afford the property taxes. Only other option would be to find a developer who wants land they can take out of production. Without ag exemptions you would see much property taken out of production and we’d see grocery prices rise dramatically. As for “conservancies”, would you rather the state buy or condemn property in order… Read more »

swmft

florida has a luxury tax which is effectively a second sales tax, restaurants and hotels in different areas have different taxes in same county, not based on housing values but who is more likely to go there.

Russn8r

Nice try. Trump’s not on the CCP payroll, unlike Brandon & Co, Mitch McCornhole et ilk.

Finnky

@OV – You say that as if being a millionaire means something. A few million makes one comfortable or reasonably well off – not rich.

Of course if current admin was allowed to get their way, within a decade being a billionaire may not mean much.