11th-Hour Arming of Ukrainians Met by Gun-Grabber Silence and About-Face by CNN

It looks like the Ukraine government has finally figured out that the right of the people to keep and bear arms is necessary to their own security as well. The question now: Are they too late in waking? (Ukraine/Facebook)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Ukraine MPs vote to give permission for civilians to carry firearms,” Reuters reported Wednesday. Per the authors of the law, passing it is “fully in the interests of the state and society [due] to existing threats and dangers” from Russia.

Evidently, the military and “civilian defensive forces” need bolstering.

The initial report is an oversimplification. Another Reuters report says:

“Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on Thursday called on all citizens who were ready to defend the country from Russian forces to come forward, saying Kyiv would issue weapons to everyone who wants them.”

We’ll get to him in a bit.

Ukraine’s 112.International reports:

“Ukraine’s parliament [is] working on weapon legalization … The Verkhovna Rada [unicameral legislature] supported the bill on the right to civilian firearms in the first reading, which is designed to start the process of legalizing weapons in Ukraine.”

With current moves by Putin’s forces, one might say this is way too little way too late, especially since Ukraine firearms laws, per Gun Policy.org, are “restrictive,” with no right to private ownership guaranteed by law and with a host of infringements U.S. “commonsense gun safety” prohibitionists demand be enacted here. Not being a “gun culture,” getting sufficient arms into public hands seems a “Hail Mary” play, and forget about training in gun handling, use, marksmanship, and coordinated battle tactics with everything that implies and requires.

Even that site’s analysis is incomplete and subject to contextual misinterpretation. The above-linked 112.International report and a corroborative article detail legislative attempts to expand “gun rights” and provide a synopsis of types of weapons ordinary Ukrainians can buy (rifles, shotguns, and carbines, but “even if the bill manages to pass all rounds of parliamentary hearings, revolvers and pistols will not be freely available”), what they need (a license), storage, and insurance requirements, and further restrictions and prohibitions.

Probably the most definitive related article filed to date was posted Wednesday by Firearms News (full disclosure: I am a regular and paid contributor there, but anyone who has kept up with my work over the years knows I have never let that stop me from publicly disagreeing and even parting ways with publishers when differences became irreconcilable). I am highlighting the article because it offers information and insights you will find nowhere else. I say right now, without reservation, go and read it if you want a better understanding of the history of the conflict,  the state of Ukrainian gun ownership and civil defense preparedness, and of some common misperceptions abetted by media misunderstanding, such as:

“Where dozens of news outlets get the story wrong about Ukrainian gun ownership has to do with the word ‘hunting.’ Ukraine allows its citizens to own ‘hunting weapons’ so when news agencies covered this topic, they gave the idea that Ukrainians can only own duck hunting shotguns and deer rifles. Ukraine’s government uses the word “hunting” in the same legal way our BATFE uses the word ‘sporting.’ All MSRs are considered to be hunting firearms in Ukraine [with “no restrictions on magazine capacity”].

Those are what they’ll need.

With the president now calling on civilians to come forward, it’s instructive to note his past opposition:

“So, where is Zelenskyy on Ukrainian Gun Ownership? It is safe to say that he is [in] the same camp as anti-gun ownership democrats Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and the like. When the Ukrainian Gun Owners Association tried to open up gun ownership last year, Zelenskyy voiced his opposition stating that he did not support the petition, which gathered over 25,000 ‘signatures’ on his official website, to reduce restrictions on civilian gun ownership. His reason was that this legislation was ‘premature’ due to the socio-economics condition of Ukraine and because of the war in eastern Ukraine. Unreal. It’s almost like Zelenskyy got this talking point from some leftist anti-gun ownership group in the U.S.”

Curiously, the “usual suspects” in the U.S. are awful quiet about the move to relax restrictions. As this is being written, Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown has nothing to say on its Twitter feed. Ditto for Moms Demand Action, Giffords, and Brady. They’re still busy prattling on about “ghost guns” and “boyfriend loopholes,” and doing what they can to pass infringements with the intent of disarming the Militia, that is, their countrymen, of semi-autos they call “weapons of war,” and to make preparation and training for defense against tyranny illegal.

Speaking of that, a new article by friend and freedom colleague Dr. Miguel A. Faria, Jr. MD, about what it took for American colonists to stand up to the British army, served as inspiration for an observation that puts things in perspective:

What? Ordinary citizens are supposed to have “weapons of war” to protect against tyranny…??? Who would lie to us about that, and why?

As important as what the prohibitionists aren’t saying is what CNN, always and consistently quick to disparage U.S. “gun rights,” is saying:

“They just passed a law in which guns are allowed to be used freely in Ukraine,” Nina Kruscheva, Professor of International Affairs at The New School, New York, told CNN anchor John Berman (and as we see from above, that’s just not accurate). “If every Ukrainian takes a gun, Russians don’t have a prayer.”

So, they’re admitting on CNN that an armed citizenry is “necessary to the security of a free State”? And that anything that prevents that works in the favor of a nation’s enemies, that is, by any definition of the word, an act of treason?

What’s telling is the number of guns in Ukraine, or more to the point, their legal status. Again consulting GunPolicy.org, we find (from 2017) an estimated 4,396,000 “civilian” firearms, of which 3,596,000 are presumed to be “illegal.”

In other words, the hopes of those who imposed disarmament on their countrymen to save their own necks now rest on those they had until now disparaged, threatened with punishment, and demanded to render defenseless.

“Will this Russian invasion become a second Holodomor, not because of lack of food, but because of lack of civilian-owned firearms?” the Firearms News article concludes. “Let’s hope not. But if it does, Zelenskyy would be one guy to point the finger at.”

The article has been updated noting:

“Since this article was published, Russia declared war on Ukraine and attacked. According to the Daily Mail, President Zelenskyy has promised today that every citizen willing to have a gun will have one.”

In a sane world, this would forever put to rest the “gun debate,” that is, the need to constantly refute the unending stream of lies from the violence monopoly cultists. In the world we live in we see a new unrelated, ill-timed, and inane pronouncement from Everytown that “guns have no place in democracy,” disregarding that we’re not one and that they certainly have a place in a society that wishes to be and stay free.


About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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john

CNN Communist News Network The Ukraine has nothing to do with gun ownership here in the United States. The Ukraine was invaded by Joe Biden when he made Europe dependent on the Ukraine pipeline .Russia was not building troops and weapons of war for the appearance of strength there plan was to attack the Ukraine , next Poland. Democrats in power mean a lack of prosperity for all Americans. 4 Years of Trump energy independent no war best economy ever , best unemployment numbers for Black Americans,Lowest fuel cost in years. New tax structure all the while the democrats used… Read more »

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Cruiser

What’s to stop Trudeau from inviting the Chinese or Russians into Canada to enforce his dictatorship? Once inside, a military buildup could happen, making our Northern border unprotected. I never thought Canada would become a dictatorship, yet it has taken place

Rob

No more Canadian beer for you, hoser!

john

What makes you think that they are not already there in Canada, There are 5 million Chinese living here in the United States.

Wild Bill

Yes, that is scary. They could do much to preserve and maintain the marxist/socialist administration.

Wild Bill

What is to stop Biden from inviting the Chinese military here to keep himself in power?

CourageousLion

“Our economy is on the brink we owe more per American that will never be paid back in the trillions due to the Bidens administration stimulus packages” Don’t worry about this. It was all imaginary created out of thin air digits on computers that doesn’t HAVE to be paid back. That’s why they do it.

Wild Bill

Destroying our major creditor, China, might be worth the cost.

CourageousLion

Destroy them by refusing to buy from them.

Deplorable Bill

Between biden and trudeau, russia and china, the American citizen has his hands full. There is serious trouble coming. There could EASILY be an attack on the U.S. from the outside and from the inside. Biden has prepped government “authority” with the china virus mandates (not laws) and people put up with it, heck, the news outlets promoted it. If trudeau is attacking anyone who even sent money to the truckers what will biden stop at? Canadian cops have gone nuts, what will American cops do? Some of them have been consistently against the constitution for decades see the atfe,… Read more »

john

Police follow orders as a whole yes some are rogue I do not fear law enforcement. I fear our government which is progressive an endearing term of communist leaders. I can not see the day americans are shooting at each other over propaganda from the democrats, That would be playing straight into their plan. I hope the Americans truckers all pull over outside DC shut down not drive for a week not break any laws just park em . Then you will see how the Democrats abuse the law at their disposal. How many gun owners have never fired their… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

I served in the army many decades ago and I have worked for the government on the side from time to time. Yes, we and they, follow orders but there is a legal mechanism to not follow illegal orders. I have seen for myself, from the inside, people who will follow orders blindly no matter what the reason or cost, right or wrong be dammed. We have seen this tyranny and treason primarily from the demoncraps but also the rinos also, for decades. There can be no argument against that. I wish I could afford your confidence in the situation.… Read more »

DIYinSTL

A close friend had dinner out last night with members of the local police force. They mentioned that the FBI had recently asked them, and presumably all police forces. to “keep track of those with concealed carry permits.” After seeing the way police attacked some of the protesters in Canada my confidence in them has waned a bit. But thankfully the small town police force where my friend lives scoffed and the request from the eFfed-up Bureau of Incompetents.

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DDS

Depends on a lot of factors including the prevailing political winds in the area where you live.

Don’t count on many RKBA supporters wearing a badge in Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, San Fran, Seattle,…..

Larry

There is no “blue” for you to back. The “blue” is always loyal to whoever signs their paycheck. If your local pols serve you, their police will serve you. If they oppress you, their police will oppress you. View them as mercenaries for the “rulers” in your area and you will never go wrong.

CourageousLion

They are actually part of the STANDING ARMY that the Constitution is vehemently against. Why do you think they dress like the military and are ranked like the military? Because they are little private standing armies. And in some cases BIG standing private armies, like NYC.

swmft

that is a good point , they do act more like they came out of soldier of fortune than an idealist super hero comic.

musicman44mag

Alot of x military become law enforcement, especially MP’s.

Bigfootbob

I agree, but I pray there are righteous people on the inside who will do everything in their power to circumvent or slow down the ones who betrayed their oaths when TSHTF.

Arny

Just curious. But do you know what oaths they swear to ? I have seen people ask NYC LEOs what oath they have taken. They refuse to answer. And many of the LEOs seem to be of foreign nationality. Just a observation on my part. I’m not saying they may not be Americans.

musicman44mag

They will be Chinese and they will be part of the U.N. if obiden makes the move I think he is going to do.

Wild Bill

What move do you think that obiden will make?

Wild Bill

That is a good inquiry. Many commenters write things based upon the assumption that police all over the nation take the same oath. Do they? Do they take an oath at all?

Wild Bill

Perhaps, but out here in the sticks, we have little law enforcement. So the dynamic is different. Our police and sheriffs know that they might need us for meaningful fire support, in an emergency because other law enforcement are a half hour or more away.
The other day, I saw our police explaining to local why that local’s parking effort was unsat. The leo could have just issued a ticket.

JSNMGC

Jesse – 2/25/22

“It’s not local city,county,and state LE. They continue to enforce the law and respect our constitution,esp,the 2nd amendment. It’s the federal scum that has to go.”

Response to Jesse:

Jesse,

Do you know Will (“TEX”)? You write a lot like Will (“TEX”).

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CourageousLion

WRONG. The local city, county and state LE work hand in hand with the ATF. You can read some of the MANY incidents on here. Do you really think that if you go to a range with an AR pistol and the ATF has said they are SBR’s that a local cop won’t question you and maybe arrest you if you can’t proved it has then been registered as an SBR? Good luck with that.

Stag

That is either the most dumbest statement I’ve heard this weak or you are suffering from some severe cognitive dissonance.

Russn8r

What a load of bullshit, TEX

CourageousLion

….that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. Is the problem. WE put up with too much too long. HOWEVER there is a silver lining behind this. Read THE AWAKENED SAXON. Or watch Tom McDonald rap out White Boyz…

CourageousLion

You’re absolutely right! The polytickshuns have absolutely NO power unless the enforcers are willing to do their bidding.

PMinFl

“In other words the hopes of those who imposed disarmament on their countrymen to save their own necks now rest on those they had until now disparaged, threatened with punishment/and demanded to renderdefenseless”
Kinda sounds like how we treat first responders or medical staff. or now truckers…we love you when we need you then after the rush it’s get out of my way you deplorable. This seems to sum up what progressives espouse.

swmft

stalin killed the people that helped him so they would not kill him later

musicman44mag

So now the leader of Ukraine wants to give anyone that wants a gun the ability to get one, but it sounds like only hunting guns and no pistols.

That kinda reminds me of what that guy in Japan after WW2 that said invading America would not be a smart thing to do because there is a bush and allot of guns and? Well, you know the story!!!!
FJB

Wild Bill

I’m thinking that it was Yamamoto before WWII.

musicman44mag

LOL, you are right, I was trying to sound like uncle joe kamalatoe obiden. 🙂

Russn8r

OMG, not Q. Say it ain’t so.

Deplorable Bill

Yamamoto was asked, after the successful attack on Perl harbor and the Philippines, wake etc, why did he not invade the American mainland? His response was “There would be a gun behind every blade of grass.” This is something that all corrupt leo’s, lawyers, judges and politicians would do well to remember. I am certain, if America is invaded or attacked from within, Yamamoto’s words will come to pass. Even if all we have are hunting rifles, there are those of us who are good for a mile or more. Lots of us have modern sporting rifles and can make… Read more »

musicman44mag

Man, I tried 1,000 yards for the first time last year on vacation. I learned that my 7mm mag is a good rifle, but I would only trust it out to about 700 yards to be dependable. A 22 inch barrel is too short in my book and the heaver the barrel the better. I have a real hunting rifle meant for hauling around. I was going to try the mile mark next but after looking into it I find it is just to expensive but doing a mile would be a blast. I even bought a camera system that… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

Try 140g Berger v.l.d. I push mine to 3,380 fps on a warm day. Does 1/4 moa center to center using a large, safe dose of 780 supreme. Weigh, trim, de bur the flash holes on your cases, use same make and lot if possible. Hornaday is good, Nozzler is better but expensive. Weigh cases, charges and bullets and mark all on the cases. Tenths of a grain make a difference at a mile. Separate by case weight then bullet weight. Federal L.R.M.Match primers. Believe it or not this is out of a old Savage 110 round back with an… Read more »

musicman44mag

Mine is a savage 110. What cal are you shooting? I do everything just like you for match bullets but I use Hornady 162 gr btsp IMR 4831 at 60.2 grn cci mag rifle primer which is almost 3,000 fps. 2.5 trigger pull. I think maybe my problem might be the scope. Millet LRS. I adjusted to move to the right and it moved left or maybe it was me. I was tired. The instructor had me go up 32 clicks when I was sigheted in zero at 200 to start. I thought it was too much but I didn’t… Read more »

Deplorable Bill

Using the same caliber you are, 7 Rem mag. I would have to confirm zero distance but I think it’s 275 yds. That gives me about 1,150″ drop or about 62 moa drop. Believe it or not there is very little impact difference , 1,580 yds. between the 140g and the 162g/168g.

It sounds like you have the rifle, stock and trigger you need. A good 20 moa base, 2 sets of mounts and some good glass might help you.

Happy shooting

Arm up and carry on

swmft

I do agree a mile is a hoot , but the 50 hurts thinking of a 338. or 375/50 down side to 375/50 barrel life but could start trying for 2 mile they say it can be done

Deplorable Bill

Fifty cal. rifles can be heavy, like a Barrett 82 but ammo is less expensive and easier to find. A good 338 cal. would do well. Last time I checked for ammo it was over $7 per round. That was some time ago, before things got biden crazy. The farthest kill that I am aware of is from a 338.

Arm up and carry on

CourageousLion

Carlos Hathcock, a Marine sniper killed an enemy soldier 1.4 miles away in 1967 with a .50 caliber Browning machine gun. To this day, it remains the Corps’ longest confirmed sniper kill shot. The tales of Gunnery Sgt. Carlos Hathcock’s exploits in the jungles of Vietnam are legendary. With 93 confirmed kills and around 300 unconfirmed, he is one of the deadliest Marine Corps snipers in history. The enemy gave Hathcock the nickname Long Tra’ng du K’ich, “White Feather Sniper,” because he notoriously hunted with a white feather tucked into the band of his bush hat. The reason I purchased… Read more »

CourageousLion

Yes, he did, BUT in this case, if you do some research he used a BMG set on single shot on a guy that was on a BICYCLE! You can read his biography here: https://www.123helpme.com/essay/Silent-Warrior-The-Biography-of-Carlos-Hathcock-108065

CourageousLion

Can I come watch? I believe in the Show Me State’s motto.

Wild Bill

Yeah, I like that Berger 140 VLD, too. 6.5 PRC. Christianson Ridgeline.

CourageousLion

Most urban warfare is going to be a lot closer then 1000 yards. A LOT closer, like standing next to a stop sign and shooting an enemy that just stopped in the head with a shotgun. 4GW won’t have too much long range work. And remember…long range work on targets that don’t move is one thing. Long range work on moving targets is a pipe dream that exists only in the movies.

CourageousLion

And some of us…

swmft

day late and a dollar short

Mustangalpha6

What they need is anti-tank weapons not your grandpa’s shotgun

CourageousLion

Shotguns can be used to take out tank operators when they aren’t in their tanks making them useless unless someone else is trained in their operation.

nrringlee

Key point. In our history the militia was not something created by government. The militia was a body of deer hunters and veterans competent in the use of firearms and in possession of the same called forth to defend the community from an external threat. The individual soldiering skills of those called forth were those of skilled hunters and woodsmen. Very little time was dedicated to drill and formation. We should keep this in mind when we are discussing any form of domestic security anywhere. Now that the Harris/Biden regime is seeing fit to flood our nation with illegal aliens… Read more »

Wild Bill

Were I president, I would put a bounty on illegal aliens. Can’t bring them all beat up or dead, of course.

john

 American was energy independent when Biden was placed as president not elected. Our economy or freedoms our free speech our second amendment , taxes , medicare cost ,fuel, supply chain disruptions , mandates , retirement portfolios in jeopardy , lies about the vaccine ability to protect Americans.  Biden’s perceived weakness on the world stage has invited aggression from America’s allies. China is, by all appearances, looking to seize control of Taiwan. Chinese Communist Party is walking a fine line to victory in Taiwan while supporting the Russian invasion of the Ukraine 

PMinFl

America’s enemies.

john

There are many in other countries and then there are to many working in our government.

john

Biden family has had ties to the ukraine for years the family . Donor with deep Ukraine ties lent $500,000 to Biden’s brother.The 2015 loan came as Biden’s brother faced financial difficulties related to his acquisition of a multimillion-dollar vacation home, nicknamed “the Biden Bungalow,” in South Florida.A donor with deep ties to Ukraine loaned Joe Biden’s younger brother half-a-million dollars at the same time the then-vice president oversaw U.S. policy toward the country, according to public records. “John Hynansky is a longtime friend of the Bidens,” Hynansky, born in Germany after his parents fled Ukraine during World War II, came… Read more »

john

Joe Biden today is going to select a supreme court nominee based solely on race and sex not the ability to follow the rule of law. This is another bad day for America a continued chain of failures by Joe Biden and his administration. Their is a war going on Joe or are you napping again. Ted Cruz called Crazy Joes press secretary Peppermint Pattie a very appropriate title for her as she struggles with the truth daily. I can’t wait for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to implode when Biden address the nation next week. Republicans need to express… Read more »

Wild Bill

Choosing a government employee by race and gender! Isn’t that discrimination???

john

I guess I never read the democratic hand book of 2021 they alter the rules to fit the daily events one never can tell .

Wild Bill

Nope, they want control over us and that is that.

john

sorry you will have to wait for approval

Biden family has had ties to the ukraine for years

john

Progressive is a communist ideologie it is that simple

john

Joe biden again has left Americans in harm’s way in the Ukraine telling them you are on your own now.Biden and his administration has had mouths to evaluate what Putin’s plan of action would be as if the world did not understand that Putin was going to attack the Ukraine. China and Russia have stood together while waiting for the olympic games to end they agree that at some point Taiwan will be next. China can be very patient in its approach to gain control of Taiwan which might be done without firing a single shot. Today the networks have… Read more »

Wild Bill

If Russia had an economy as big as Texas, NATO might have trouble with them, but Russia doesn’t. If Biden’s handlers had a brain among them, The Russian economy would be about the size of Alabama. No offense, Alabama.

john

Yep but there are no brains in the Democratic party or Joe’s handlers just irreparable damage done at their hands daily. Putin will punish Biden day after day without remorse .

Arny

Exactly where did you get that bit of fake news ? lol

Wild Bill

Russia, China, and Iran know that America is no longer able to fight a two theatre war. But America did not take the bait and commit troops to Ukraine. So the Chinese move on Taiwan must wait. How long is difficult to tell.

Putin may have to go after the Baltic states or maybe even Poland in a second attempt to get America to commit to the east European theatre, making a Chinese grab for Taiwan and the South China Sea sea lanes a sure and bloody thing.

J Gibbons

I’m glad Biden has not committed troops. I suspect we are woefully unprepared for a war that will be totally different from the Middle East conflicts and Afghanistan. Not only that, the current military focus on woke-ism has taken the focus away from the thing necessary to fight effectively and win.

Handy N Handsome

Right!
Our armed forces don’t have enough lesbians, transgenders, queers, and bisexuals to hold a florist convention, let alone fight a war with Russia.
Let’s face it.
Without immediate intervention into our own corrupted government affairs, this country is lost.

CourageousLion

Actually I think you miss stated your point. That “our” armed forces DO have enough to hold a florist convention. I know a guy at Planet Fitness who made a comment to me who is one bad ass stronger then hell dude who is married and I suspect is bi since he did make a rather strange comment to me. So don’t tell me that they are all pussies.

Wild Bill

Welcome to the site, Handy. Should we keep gays out of the military and expend our best sons and daughters so that the homosexuals survive unscathed? Put them on the FEBA.

Tackleberry

The 1st Airborne Transvestite Brigade certainly would have the element of surprise going for them.

Wild Bill

That is most humorous. Because I was never airborne, I find it even funnier!!

CourageousLion

They’re too busy being trained to put down an actual insurrection that might be coming if the psychopathic control freaks in the District of Criminals keep up their crap.

Wild Bill

War with China will necessitate a draft, civilian life on a wartime footing, and everyone chipping in. We can not even get along on an Internet forum.

CourageousLion

A draft will be resisted like you can’t imagine. Too many people are waking up to the fact that the military is being used for too much nefarious activity. Unless China invaded our country directly and then militias will rise up all over the place and kick their ass out.

Wild Bill

I hope that you are right because I foresee 33 million dead, and 55 million under arms to defeat China.

CourageousLion

Putin isn’t going after anything except the Ukraine. And the main reason there is to get out the pro West ass kissing President who is paying the Bidens to keep his sorry ass in power.

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Wild Bill

Maybe. But we could defeat the Russians by cutting them off completely from the SWIFT payment system and American dollars.
I wonder why Biden does not do it.

CourageousLion

CHINA HAS world domination. See how many items in YOUR house are made in China.

Wild Bill

Congress could end that in an afternoon because Congress controls commerce. For example: No product made or partially made, assembled, or transported from or through China may enter United States Commerce.
No market for China; no cash flow for China; no money for the Chinese war machine.
The problem is that so many Congress persons, Executive branch employees, researchers, and lobbyists are secretly on the Chinese payroll.

CourageousLion

You think? I’m sure you are absolutely correct in every respect.

Wild Bill

You are very generous.

john

Biden and family have milked the Ukraine for millions Ukrainian energy company, Burisma. Hunter Biden, second son of US President Joe Biden, is being investigated by the Justice Department over his finances including, according to US media reports, some of his business dealings in China.

Tionico

not to mention the too many China/US biolabs developing and producing bioweapons, right on Russia’s border… THAT is what Putin went after. They are now all neutralised, along with the airfields needed to dploy them.

Arny

Do you really buy that nonsense of HB being investigated ? Or that anything meaningful would come from it ? Kind of like the ATF investigating him. lol

musicman44mag

That is one of the reasons I am dumping Amazon. They are rich enough that they don’t need to raise their prices, it’s all greed. I’d rather suffer and live without it and wait for it to be made in America again and then pay more for it just like I wanted to remain doing before Clinton instituted his new business called NAFTA.

john

  Biden has been wrong on almost every if not every policy period, not just foreign policy .Calamity Joe. Every week brings a bigger disaster than the past week. Biden can not restore our country to the position of strength that Trump established in the world. That’s a pretty tall order for a 78 year old man who is in cognitive decline and has never really accomplished anything other than managing to get elected and amassing a huge fortune peddling political influence internationally.

Wild Bill

I think that it is Biden’s handlers, and it almost seems intentional.

musicman44mag

Both your and WB’s strategy analysis is very interesting and I think it is spot on. I have been concerned that the reason obiden left all the implements of war behind in Afghanistan was so they would have the tools they need to attack Israel and of course the cash through the back door for doing it he receives via hunter or Kerry depending on which rat is doing the dealings.

I don’t recall the SQUAD having one complaint about all the money lost or all the tools left behind.

Wild Bill

Hey, you are right. I do not remember them complaining, either!

Alan in NH

So here are two groups of communists killing each other, as they often do. Have at it.

john

follow the money comrade !

Warren

It is time Taiwan wakes up you are next. Arm your people now before it’s to late.

Wild Bill

They need crew served weaps, LAWs, and man packable antiaircraft. And TOWs.

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Arny

The Taiwanese people have been awake. It’s another case of a puppet Govt. They know & have known what’s on the horizon. Hopefully the people have been planning behind the scenes.

Coelacanth

The Biden Gang’s Ukrainian interests are at stake here and the paper tiger snarls.

john

If my comment gets approved it will enlighten you on the Bidens money trail in the Ukraine. Joe’s brother has also made millions in the Ukraine is there nothing the Bidens will not do to exploit the people of the Ukraine. I am leaving Dr Jill Biden out of this for now as her Institute has been funded with taxpayer dollars. In January 2007 she received a Doctor of Education (Ed.D.) in educational leadership from the University of Delaware. The Biden Institute is focused on the issues that have animated President Biden’s public career and it is rooted in two guiding principles he has long… Read more »

Bob

The whole Biden family can go suck on a pile of turds, in my opinion.

DDS

Don’t forget that while this area of Ukraine and Belarus saw some of Nazi Germany’s greatest victories in the early days of Barbarossa, it was also the scene of partizans, consisting of civilians, stragglers, and “leave behind” teams, playing holy hell with the logistical tails of Army Group Center and Army Group South. Much of that area is boggy if not swampy, very forested, and in general not good tank country except in the winter. Putin may well find what Guderian found. That Ukraine can be taken by tanks, but not held. His 190,000 man combined arms forces are now… Read more »

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Wild Bill

Just my humble opinion, but Putin (thanks to Biden) has already won. Ukraine will be occupied and a puppet installed. It will take three or four more days. Tonight, there are strategic objectives that the Russians have not captured. So there will be bombardments of the Ukrainian army defending those objectives. The Ukrainian army has fought harder and more skillfully than Putin anticipated. Tomorrow at military dawn the Russian army will push for those strategic objectives. Russian air power will destroy any Ukrainian unit that turns on a radar or transmits a radio message. The Ukrainians are tougher than anyone… Read more »

KenW

The Germans were literally defeated in 1945 but the Soviet Armies suffered great casualties taking Berlin.
You’re correct about a puppet government as well as air power, but all the air power the world had seen in Vietnam didn’t stop a VC insurgency.

CourageousLion

Yeah, he wants to take out OUR puppet and install HIS puppet. What a big surprise. And we really don’t know what is going on. We have to listen to a LYING media and LYING government mouth pieces for our news. Even those on the ground there that are reporting could be standing in front of WAG THE DOG sets. How would YOU know? I know that they do LIE, LIE, LIE, LIE and LIE some more.

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Arny

Why are so many unable to see that these are the real facts of the situation at hand. Hell Putin & many other leaders could be working in tandem. How would we really know ? It strikes me funny Biden placing sanctions on Russia. And at the same time using Russia to deal with Iranian nuclear deals. lol

Chuck

Hey all you Anti 2A Folks and Gun Grabbing Commies. Do you get it Now? Do you understand that We the People are the last line of defense against Tyranny.

3l120

Yup, I can see Antifa and BLM lining up to get M-16s to defend this country. They would make an excellent 5th column for Putin/Xi

john

Antifa are not the brave soles I would count on, Their are young people that attack from behind & only when they can out number the victim. As for BLM that group has so many different fractions that do not all believe in the same thing ,”All LIves Matter”

Wild Bill

I predict that both groups will get firearms and get braver. IMHO, only.

swmft

they are the ones that would run and hide

Russn8r

Yep, only by ambush like they assassinated pro-Trump black businessman Bernell Trammell in Milwaukee. Most of ’em probly do it from behind too.

Russn8r

If the SHTF and our side starts shooting back, AntiFa & BLM will make a dead 5th column for Putin/Xi/Xiden/DemComs.

Tionico

quote: he is [in] the same camp as anti-gun ownership democrats Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and the like. No wonder , this. Remember what happened in 2014? The current head cheese came to power as a puppet shill in result of a US backed and organised coup that removed the man the PEOPLE of the Ukraine had duly elected. Any surprise the US puppets would favour US style firearms laws? Other reding I’ve done in the last day indicate strongly that the ONLY targets so far of the Russian miitary ahve been miitary isntallatioins that pose a threat to peace… Read more »

CourageousLion

Some pretty smart guys who were students of history and had seen the advantage of an armed MILITIA in Switzerland where instrumental in codifying the understanding that the RIGHT of the PEOPLE to BEAR ARMS shall not be infringed telling those who swear to uphold the Constitution to leave that right alone. HOWEVER the moron psychopathic control freaks realized that they couldn’t be in as much control as they are today if they left the first 13 words intact so they did away with the MILITIAS for that very reason. Being armed is one thing. BEING WELL TRAINED is another.… Read more »

CourageousLion

HOLY SHIT! This got down voted at all? What kind of brain dead ZOMBIES are reading this?

Wild Bill

Oh, I thought that it was James Mason.

swmft

they might even go after Philippines

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Ansel Hazen

The anti-2A crowd and really all of the libtard universe has an amazing capacity to ignore anything that flies in the face of their carefully constructed utopia.

Don

Kiev gave out 18,000 AKs in two days. “Handing them out like candy”. Ukraine will not have a crime problem. It is a good thing that anyone willing to fight is being given a rifle. It has slowed the Russian advance. Each of the Javelin crews need infantry protection when they go to shoot Russian armored vehicles. The Ukrainians as showing the world why the people need to be armed.

Russn8r

Ukraine has 44 million people. 18 thousand rifles is only one in every 2,444 people. 4% of 1%. They need to hand out a lot more to make a dent in crime or enable a successful resistance.

Doc

I wonder how the ban of importing Russian Ammunition affected the War. Did it increase the amount of ammo that Russia could use against the Ukraine? If so, could those who sponsored and supported the ban be held accountable for the end result of all that “extra” Russian ammunition available to use in this conflict?

I am just asking …

Alan in NH

Mostly what I see in the pictures are AK-74’s which use 5.45X39. That cartridge has never really caught on here, Most of our imports from Russia have been 7.62X39 and 9mm. It would probably be a good idea to stock up on wolf and other Russian AK ammo if you use it since it will soon be gone. We have never produced much of it here as their steel cased stuff was plentiful and cheap.

Tank

I’m not sure with DOS-NATO et alia delivering AMMO & Hardwear & supplies into Ukraine for 8 years now has any real relevance to the undermining operations going on there ? Putin is most likely going after the regime in a classical & brilliant assault by surrounding the key cities of power by the junta hoodlums running the show while assaulting critical infrastructure & networ apparatus they use to disable they’re systems. He got the jump on them before NATO shat on itself.

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Cruiser

War will definitely make a believer out of anyone,

Tank

The Whole Ukrainian Euro Maiden Color Revolution Arc of Crisis is complex & not simple to assay since Soviet Union’s collapse in 91’. Novorossiya Governorate, Donetsk & Luhansk territories have been Russian Loyalist/separitist’s for years. Many speak Russian not Ukrainian language & many families were/are part of Ottoman Empire territories since 1700’s & more recent 1913-1917 wars there. As usual there’s more to the story than meets the eye or what the narrative presents. The MSM here as usual doesn’t give the full twistory & magnitude of the real situation there. Zionist’s (which Biden is admittedly) have tried to muscle… Read more »

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Wild Bill

I do not. It is not about facts, logic, or determining truth with the marxists in this country. It is about attaining power. They will use words until words don’t get them what they want.

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Bones

David, Dr. Miguel A. Faria, Jr. MD is also my good friend as well. Very respectable person. I am not on Facistbook anymore since they banned me again. So tell him to look me up on truth.com (Trumps social media ) when it comes on line for android.

CourageousLion

Oh well. I guess they are taking lessons from the USA who has been an Afghanistan on false pretenses, Iraq, Libya, Grenada, Syria, a number of South American countries doing covert ops, arming the enemies of Russia…I know, I know, I’m supposed to be a good boot licking asshole and think that those things are FINE and WONDERFUL, but I go by this..>DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU!< That is SOOO difficult isn’t it?

CourageousLion

LOL! Truth hurts doesn’t it. Can’t wrap those two useless brain cells around it can you down voters?

Rob

Start licking boots.

JSNMGC

“Start licking boots.”

That’s a bingo.

The people who have been downvoting CourageousLion vote Republican – they are not communists (although they are statists of a different sort). They are LEOs, ex-LEOs, and unconditional LEO supporters.

CourageousLion has spoken the truth about state/county/city/town LEOs and they are angry.

CourageousLion

LOL! That will be the day! But there sure are a lot of boots that visit this site.

Arny

You could also say what goes around comes around. lol

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CourageousLion

Seems like a lot of progressive IE Communists troll this site.

JSNMGC

It’s surprising that you haven’t figured out what is going on.

Wild Bill

Ooooh, Slap! The second insult of the day.

JSNMGC

Good morning Wild Bill.

That wasn’t an insult – you are looking too hard.

Have you seen any actual insults lately?

Wild Bill

Yes, I read that one!

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22

“WB,you’re right. He sure does insult a lot of people here. It’s just a disgrace.”

Response to Jesse/WILL/”TEX:

How many accounts are you running now?

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX:” – 2/25/22

“Get some mental help Rev.”

Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

Ammoland has been patient with you regarding all the accounts you open.

Wild Bill

I think that it is more and more people are getting fed up with your antics.

JSNMGC

“I think that it is more and more people are getting fed up with your antics.”

I dont’ think you can save him, Wild Bill.

Wild Bill

One computer. One account. Ya think that Ammoland would not recognize more than one account from the same computer?

JSNMGC

Jesse = Will = “TEX”

Do you think maybe Jesse/Will/”TEX” could have circumventend the controls that are in place?

Can you think of any possible way he might have done that?

Wild Bill

No. Can you? It is popular among political people like yourself to accuse others of what they, themselves are doing.

JSNMGC

“No. Can you? It is popular among political people like yourself to accuse others of what they, themselves are doing.” ~ Wild Bill

You really can’t think of any work arounds?

Jesse is obviously Will/”TEX.” He admitted he is with his “Rev” comment – he just can’t help himself.

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22:

“WB,don’t forget it claims to be an activist too! LMFAO!

Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

More evidence.

Wild Bill

I thought that an “activist” is someone that is not active enough to get a regular job.

JSNMGC

“I thought that an “activist” is someone that is not active enough to get a regular job.” No, Wild Bill. Activists are the reason Texas finally got “may issue” (after California). Activists are the reason Texas finally got “shall issue” (after many other states). Activists are the reason Texas finally got “Constitutional Carry” (after many other states). You should thank all the pro 2nd Amendment rights activists in Texas. They worked hard for the rights of Texas firearm owners. Pro 2nd Amendment activists are the reason why gun control laws in the U.S. are not even worse than they are… Read more »

Wild Bill

Did you participate in any of those?

JSNMGC

Yes, Wild Bill. In 1995 (I believe), I made calls to legislators in Texas asking them to vote for “shall issue.”

The activists in Texas did the majority of the heavy lifting. They formed groups, met in person, and then met in person with the legislators. The same thing that I do in Wyoming with groups of pro 2nd Amendment activists.

There are activists in Texas who are now working to replace Cornyn with someone who is pro 2nd amendment.

You should thank them instead of making disparaging remarks about pro 2nd amendment activists.

Wild Bill

You made some calls twenty-five years ago? And you think that is a job?

Replace Cornyn? I could get behind that. Why don’t you make yourself useful and get them on this site.

JSNMGC

“You made some calls twenty-five years ago?”

Yes.

“And you think that is a job?”

What?

“Replace Cornyn? I could get behind that. Why don’t you make yourself useful and get them on this site.”

Why don’t you make yourself useful and get involved for a change?

Wild Bill

That is why I would like you to get the anti-Cornyn people on this site. So that I and other Texans can make contact.

JSNMGC

“That is why I would like you to get the anti-Cornyn people on this site. So that I and other Texans can make contact.” ~ Wild Bill That’s not the way it works, Wild Bill. They are not going to come to you – you need to go to them. Texans have been working on political issues for a long time. If you want to help, you need to go to them. I’m not going to provide the link or provide your county because some idiots will bother her, but if you put this in your search engine you will… Read more »

Wild Bill

I should have known that you would be of no help.

JSNMGC

“I should have known that you would be of no help.” ~ Wild Bill

You are lazy, entitled, and helpless.

I told you exactly how to get involved.

Wild Bill

No lazy, entitled, and or helpless person can run a ranch. That is just more of your insults.

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JSNMGC

“No lazy, entitled, and or helpless person can run a ranch. That is just more of your insults.” ~ Wild Bill

The above indicates otherwise.

Wild Bill

No, that is just more of your “deflection”. Although that is not a debate term.

JSNMGC

“No, that is just more of your “deflection”. Although that is not a debate term.” ~ Wild Bill

There is no end to your excuses for not getting involved.

I gave you instructions for exactly what to do.

Wild Bill

You are sooo instructive. Everybody knows how to contact their county Repub party. I don’t think that you have any Replace Cornyn contacts.

JSNMGC

“You are sooo instructive. Everybody knows how to contact their county Repub party. I don’t think that you have any Replace Cornyn contacts.” ~ Wild Bill

I wrote:

“There are activists in Texas who are now working to replace Cornyn with someone who is pro 2nd amendment.”

You are so lazy. Go introduce yourself, find the people local to you, and get to work.

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/26/22:

“WB,he reminds me of the former NRA and their nonsense. They just want to take credit for the passage and implementing of legislation they had nothing to do with.”

Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

No, Will, there are many thousands of people who work to drive change to gain back freedoms for Americans.

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22:

“WB,you’re right it is. The village idiot was the one who claimed to be an activist.”

Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

Are you the same person who posted under the account names of “Will” and “TEX?”

Wild Bill

That statement presumes that it is a fact that a “same person … posted under the account names of “Will” and “Tex”.
That is not a proven fact, thus the question in not logical.
An educated person would not have made that error in his presentation.

JSNMGC

As I have reminded you at least three times prior to now, Will/”TEX” told you himself that he posted under those two names. He did that in a comment he addressed to you.

Do you ever get tired of pretending not to know things?

Wild Bill

I do not recall that but if you can get him back to the site and tell me, then I should admit a mistake.

JSNMGC

He is back – he’s posting under the name Jesse.

Wild Bill

I’m thinking that is a guess.

JSNMGC

“I’m thinking that is a guess.”

You are pretending again.

Wild Bill

You are guessing, again.

JSNMGC

“You are guessing, again.”

You are funny. Why do you go to such outlandish lengths to attempt to cover for him?

Wild Bill

quibble, quibble, quibble.

JSNMGC

“quibble, quibble, quibble.”

You like writing that word.

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22:

“WB,I’m telling you that the kid out of its mind. I just wonder if it’s entire family suffers from insanity.”

Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

“kid” – more evidence.

Admit it “Jesse,” you are Will/”TEX.”

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Wild Bill

Who authorized this one to demand anything of others? Or is it just ego.

JSNMGC

Jesse, admit it.

Wild Bill

Bla, bla, bla. I have things to do.

Russn8r

Doesn’t look like it. You and your sock-puppet posse have been very busy.

Russn8r

“Jesse” clearly = TEX. Same semi-literate thug style.

swmft

Just so you all know, anyone who has,multiple emails and a server can beat about any of the safeguards. how many here use an anonymizer? or proxy server

Wild Bill

Oh, what is a server? Anonymizer? Proxy server? Sorry I have never had a computer class.

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22:

“WB,have you notice it blames everybody and everything for its problems. It gets downvoted a lot because of the garbage it posts.Nothing more.”

Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

What garbage? Please be specific.

Wild Bill

And insults, reproach, and condescension.

JSNMGC

Wild Bill, you don’t mind insults. You have admitted it. In fact, you don’t mind vulgar, over-the-top insults.

You just don’t like people disagreeing with statism.

Wild Bill

It must be great to know what is in every person’s mind; and all your guesses be right. Pure ego.

JSNMGC

Your double standards are stark and you have no qualm about applying them.

JSNMGC

Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22:

“WB,absolutely. It’s a total disgrace.”

Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”

You write the exact same gibberish under all three accounts.

You use the same words, you make the same outrageously funny comments about state/county/city/town enforcers and, using each of your accounts, you play the sycophant to Wild Bill.

Wild Bill

Gibberish is in the eye of the beholder.

JSNMGC

Yes, I behold the gibberish of Jesse = Will = “TEX”

Are you still arguing those three accounts are not the same person?

Wild Bill

This used to be a nice neighborhood.

JSNMGC

“This used to be a nice neighborhood.”

Yes, before threats of murder and attempts to silence people who do not agree with never-ending gun control.

Russn8r

Back in the day when you Agents could stroke each other off all day?

Wild Bill

He has more raw stamina than any other school yard quibbler, that I have ever met, before.

Russn8r

Obviously you have more than one computer, TEX.

Oldman

Gettin’ close to the weekend, I’d say. You just can’t have a Happy Friday without all the childish nonsense. Must be lonely being rich, and having no family or fiends to share your joy with. Very SAD, indeed.

JSNMGC

“Gettin’ close to the weekend, I’d say. You just can’t have a Happy Friday without all the childish nonsense. Must be lonely being rich, and having no family or fiends to share your joy with. Very SAD, indeed.” ~ Oldman

There we go – I expected Oldman would join in.

I’ve got a full afternoon and evening planned – just like yesterday, Oldman.

Wild Bill

Do you have something against others that you can not dominate joining in?

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JSNMGC

Reply on hold.

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Wild Bill

Yes, we all have much to be grateful for. Be careful out there.

Oldman

You too, WB. Let’s all keep our powder dry, cuz we’re gonna need it.

Oldman

I usually try real hard to ignore him and his Strawman Twin. About every three weeks or so, I just can’t take it anymore and have to respond in kind. His main problem is that he can’t remember what his previous posts have said, so when he gets confused, he has to copy and paste the previous post so he can make it sound like he is saying something new. Virtually no one else does that. I don’t know if it is a mental disorder or PTSD, but I am not so stupid that I cannot not follow a thread,… Read more »

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Wild Bill

He rents out his spare rooms, rather than getting an honest job.

JSNMGC

“He rents out his spare rooms, rather than getting an honest job.” ~ Wild Bill

Why do you keep lying? Also, why such wierd lies?

Wild Bill

So you say. Prove that it is untrue.

JSNMGC

“So you say. Prove that it is untrue.” ~ Wild Bill

You’re losing it.

Wild Bill

Things are not true or untrue on your say so. If you say some thing is a lie, then … prove it.

JSNMGC

“Things are not true or untrue on your say so. If you say some thing is a lie, then … prove it.” ~ Wild Bill

Even you realize the implications of proving a negative. If someone wrote a long list of assertions about you that are untrue, would you commence to proving them untrue?

Ammoland has been very patient with you and Will.

Wild Bill

You already have. I take them as they come. You just rely on your say so.
It is you and another that Freddy has been patient with. You are lucky to still be here. Me? Ammoland gave me an award.

JSNMGC

“You already have. I take them as they come. You just rely on your say so.
It is you and another that Freddy has been patient with. You are lucky to still be here. Me? Ammoland gave me an award.” ~ Wild Bill

You would not attempt to prove lies about you are untrue. It’s just another one of your double standards.

Tank

More are Zionist’s in my opinion. But ultimately they all come from the same ponerological source once you research & distillate the facts.

Wild Bill

Distillate? Perhaps you mean distill?

CourageousLion

SHHHHHHHHHH!!!! No one is supposed to know that!

swmft

I wonder how many of the small countries around the world will see this and realize the citizen soldier, every one trained like Israel is only viable survival concept

JSNMGC

Jesse deleting posts – more evidence.

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Jesse/Will/”TEX” – 2/25/22
 
 
“Two (2) months pay” for that cause!

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Response to Jesse/Will/”TEX:”
 
Explain to everyone the history of “Two months pay” and how you used that phrase in the past.
 
It’s an interesting bit of Ammoland history.
 
Please repeat how you would give “two months” pay to have a badge and radio again and what you would do.
 
 

Wild Bill

I don’t think that this one could even define evidence, absent a dictionary.

JSNMGC

“I don’t think that this one could even define evidence, absent a dictionary.”

More deflection.

Russn8r

WB/TEX/Will/FordWILL/Jesse still stalking & downvoting JSNMGC, still upvoting yourself. Pathetic. He should get a restraining order. LOL