Did The NRA Betray Gun Owners?

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WASHINGTON, D.C.-(Ammoland.com)- Did the National Rifle Association (NRA) let down gun owners? That is a question many gun owners have been asking with the passing of the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act (VAWA), which was part of the Omnibus spending bill passed by the U.S. Senate. According to the NRA, the answer isn’t as black and white as many would make it.

The NRA-ILA (NRA lobbying branch) released a statement yesterday on the passage of VAWA explaining their lack of pushback. It came on the heels of rumors that the NRA told Senators that the organization was neutral on the bill. On Saturday, AmmoLand News reached out to the NRA for comment on the talk.

The NRA-ILA points out that it lobbied for the so-called “boyfriend loophole” fix to be removed from VAWA. The term refers to dating partners of people being subjected to a protective order being allowed to own firearms. Due to immense pressure by almost all national gun rights organizations, the “boyfriend loophole” fix was removed from the bill. The NRA, to its credit, did lobby against that provision.

The NRA states it did not support two of the anti-gun provisions in the bill, but the gun rights organization also did not state that it opposed the measures either. The rumor was not that the NRA supported VAWA but that the organization was “neutral” on the bill. Many gun owners on internet forums and groups view this omission as proof that the NRA did not lobby against the bill.

The NRA claims that federal authorities are “constitutionally prohibited from making state or local law enforcement act on NICS denials.” The grey area is that the bill would authorize the deputization of local law enforcement. The question is if that deputization would make those officers agents of the federal government as well as local law enforcement?

The second part of that statute does not deal with NICS at all. It refers to gun confiscation for certain people. The prohibited people could be domestic abusers or convicted of certain misdemeanors. The NRA believes that this statute is just redundant since there is overlap with current federal law. Speaking to one high profile gun advocate who asked not to be named, he stated that because there is already a law on the books, we shouldn’t be OK with another one because now, instead of getting rid of one bad law, you must get rid of two.

The NRA-ILA also addressed the NICS Denial Notification Act, which was a part of VAWA. The NICS Denial Act requires all denials to be investigated, making Americans subject to a criminal investigation. The organization claimed that they could not find any source for the high rate of NICS denial notifications. According to the most conservative estimates, the false denial rate is in the double digits. According to the U.S Department of Justice, 94.3% of all NICS denials are “not referred to field, overturned, or canceled.”

The NRA-ILA also pointed out that 13 states conduct their own background checks. These are single point of contact states, and people are still processed through NICS. Thirty-seven states are not single point of contact states, and the Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL) must still contact the FBI to run the buyer’s information through NICS.

ACCORDING TO WHISTLEBLOWER DR. MIGUEL FARIA, the CDC has been caught in the past coming up with predetermined outcomes and finding evidence to fit its narrative when it comes to gun violence research. VAWA also included federal funds for gun violence research. This provision was not addressed by the NRA-ILA at all. This omission could be an error, or the NRA could have deliberately omitted it from their statement.

Many other gun rights groups pushed back against VAWA. A coalition of pro-gun groups lobbied Senators not to pass VAWA. These groups include GOA, NAGR, Independent Women’s Voice, Concerned Women for America, the Family Research Council, and Heritage Action for America. In the end, the bill was passed. Maybe the NRA joining the coalition would have made a difference. Perhaps the outcome would have been the same. We will never know.

In the end, it is up to gun owners to decide if the NRA betrayed gun owners or if people are overreacting. One thing is for sure; gun owners believe that the Senators who voted for gun control should be held accountable.


About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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ExGob

While I could not factually state that the NRA is, or ever was guilty of anything unethical or illegal, the appearance of the possibility of such stirred my apprehension. To be certain that I wasn’t contributing to the leftists’ agenda against the 2nd amendment, I discontinued my NRA membership. Basically, I was in doubt, so I dropped out. BE PREPARED!

Russn8r

NRA is not your pal.

Larry

After being a member of the NRA for over 30 years, I feel their continued compromising our rights away has finally reached a breaking point with me. I realize if the NRA fails it will be seen as a huge win for the leftists and RINO’s, but I’m sick and tired of seeing the constant flow of mail asking for yet more money. The NRA once was a strong defense against the anti gun crowd, but more and more they have become to organization know for Negotiating Rights Away! The entire leadership needs to go! Starting with Wayne LaPierre and… Read more »

Mike11C

Whenever the NRA starts talking about “compromise”, regarding our Second Amendment RIGHTS, all I hear is “surrender”. It’s not a compromise unless you get something too. Maybe, “you can have universal background checks IF we get nationwide concealed carry reciprocity and, the repeal of the National Firearms Act of 1934”. How about that? “Oh, and I’m going to need you to throw in mandatory national voter ID too”. But no, the NRA gives in and, what do we get? Nothing, that’s what! Just another right pissed away. How about we just start holding criminals accountable for their crimes, instead of… Read more »

None

When was the NRA relevent for gun owners in the last 35 years that they actully killed or rolled back more legislation on us, I can’t think of a time since Wayne came into his dictatorship
But this is just my opinion.

Tank

Double speak is always the work & works a Machiavellian tyrants. Always.

NRA needs to be disbanded not rebranded.

Same tyrants with different faces. All roots meet & connect underground. Always.

Never trust someone who betrays you or your inalienable immutable natural rights.

This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first appears he is a protector.

Plato

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jak

What the NRA needs is more Qualified people in charge and not the people that are interested in filling their own pockets.

Deplorable Bill

The question should not be did the NRA betray gun owners, it should be when did the NRA NOT betray gun owners? The second amendment is clear enough that a grade school kid can understand it and explain it. The WORD of GOD is clear; If a man has no sword he should sell his cloak and buy one—- part of Luke 22:36. The right, the order, the obligation to keep and bear arms is clear and anything less is evil and criminal. There is no grey area in the 2A or SCRIPTURE. The RIGHT of the people to keep… Read more »

Henry Bowman

Negotiating Rights Away supported the passage of HR 2640 (the Veteran Disarmament Act), and gaslit Republican Congressmen into voting for it too. NRA lied to its membership about the content of the bill, and having read the bill myself, decided it was time to terminate my NRA life membership.

I will NOT belong to a so-called 2A group that actually works to undermine our 2A and the Rights it guarantees, just so they can scare people into sending in memberships and donations. That is no way to run a nonprofit!

None

And thats why I too terminated my lifetime membership that I had for 40 years

Roland T. Gunner

Three things: A midemeanor should never be the basis for lost rights, and in my opinion, felonies, once restitution is complete, should rarely, if ever be the basis for lost rights. Second: NRA has compromised our rights away for 88 years. And third: in Texas, John Cornyn has outlived his usefulness.

Wild Bill

I like what you wrote, except loss of rights, after paying one’s debt to society must never occur. That would be a non-judicially imposed life sentence, something the the judge and legislature did not intend.

swmft

unusual punishment right in the bill of rights illegal

Link

So Paco the ms13 gangbanger with a file longer then your arm should be able to get a gun legally after serving his time ??

Sorry, it will take a lot more to convince me that the hard core criminals get a second chance to gun ownership.

That’s like saying Joe Biden should have a second chance for the Whitehouse.

None

Totally agree with you

PistolGrip44

I am a “former” Life Member, so I would say YES. I have been robbed and betrayed!!!
They should go the way of the North American Hunting Club, now DEFUNCT. I was also a Life Member of that organization too.

Coelacanth

I too, was a member of the North American hunting club. I wondered what happened. All of a sudden the magazines stopped and there were no more mailings. Huh. Well, they got my money and ran.

john

What does the CDC have to do with anything related to firearms they now have been caught lying looking back at many years of false statements along with fictional numbers and poor math skills they should be disband.

The federal government under the Biden regime will continue to support radical groups in an effort to sway public opinion using taxpayer dollars.

This is what happens when you alter the rules of election to remove your opposition. Democrats lie and the media swears to it the liberal democratic socialist party also needs to be put out of our country’s misery.

swmft

old joe McCarthy was right after all the comis are here and destroying from within

HLB

That we pick at these things about the VAWA is a diversion. We need to focus on the fact that the Federal Government has no say in people’s weapons – no more than they can own half the land in the country. It is simply not allowed by the Constitution.

Or, we can play their game and loose.

HLB

Montana454Casull

Which time ? Negotiating Rights Away sold out gun owners many times . Waine is not worth one red cent and he has destroyed the credibility of the NRA completely.

Jeff

I have my ballot for the NRA board elections. I don’t know whom I want to vote for, but I wan to throw out the establishment. Any websites or resources to help me choose? I want to throw out the WLP cabal and I don’t want my vote split. In other words, with a little planning and coordination the membership can take back the NRA.

Cruiser

You might try Wikipedia, sometimes it tells the persons political leanings.
I will not vote for any lawyer or business Mogul.

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JJ1

Jeff, there is only one candidate on the ballot who is worthy of your vote and the only one that is serious about reforming the NRA and investigating the corruption of Wayne LaPierre, and that is Frank Tait. Please vote for Frank Tait, and only Frank Tait – NO ONE ELSE. Jeff Knox wrote an article about this for Ammoland; you can view it here: Bullet Vote Frank Tait for NRA Board of Directors 2022 (ammoland.com) Also, check out the “NRA in Danger” blog. It documents the corruption of the NRA in great detail and can provide more information about… Read more »

CharlieKing1

Exactly! I just voted for Frank Tait on my ballot today. Getting ready to drop it in the mail. Thank you for mentioning him. Is it worth mentioning that one needs to flip the ballot over to ‘write-in’ Frank’s name? At least that’s the way it was on my ballot.

Wild Bill

Yep, my lovely spouse and I, both, bullet voted for him. We are a block of two!

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JJ1

You shouldn’t have to write in Frank’s name. It should be printed on the front of the ballot. The names won’t be in alphabetical order; the names are rotated in the order they appear in random lots of ballots (it’s a bylaw requirement).

CharlieKing1

@JJ1, I was totally unaware of that. I heard his interview on Tom Gresham’s Gun Talk radio and took my ballot out of my American Rifleman magazine to vote for him. I looked over the names not once, but thrice trying to find Frank’s name and not finding it. I thought maybe I could just write in his name under the printed candidates’ names. Then I flipped it over and saw the ‘write-in’ portion of the ballot. So I wrote in his name, city and home state. I don’t generally buy into conspiracies, but from what you just told me… Read more »

JJ1

Charlie, that is very strange you didn’t find his name on the ballot, it was printed on mine. I think voting for him as a write-in should suffice though. I do assure you, neither Wayne LaPierre nor any of his enablers on the nominating committee want Frank Tait to get elected (which is exactly why to vote for him).

Wild Bill

Good job of not taking “No” for their answer!

Oldman

Really? I find him to be on the front page also…….First time I will vote in the last three years. Hoping it works.

CharlieKing1

Yes, really. His name was not printed on my ballot. I too am hoping that my vote will make a difference and works. There needs to be some serious changes made in the NRA leadership.

Oldman

I totally agree.

Wild Bill

Frank Tait was really good at answering our questions, on this very site. And he is the only one not nominated by the nominating committee!

Henry Bowman

The fact that the nominating committee froze him out proves he’s our kind of guy!

None

If he wasn’t nominated by the committe then you know he’s the right guy to upset the corrupt NRA apple cart

Dr. Strangelove

I wrote “Fire Wayne LaPierre!” on mine and I’m sending it in.

Wild Bill

Although I agree with your sentiment, your comment will not reach the NRA because a separate organization is employed to count the votes.

Russn8r

If you wrote it in as a candidate name it’s hand counted & sent to NRA. Not that it does much, but it doesn’t make their day. I bullet voted for Tait & 5 write-ins the accounting firm will enjoy but Hammer won’t. And it costs NRA a bit more to hand count write-ins. Less $ for vampires.

NRA DELENDA EST!

Oldman

It says right on the instructions, “Do not write in a candidate that is ON the ballot on the first page.”

Russn8r

“bullet voted for Tait AND 5 write ins” = 6 votes. The form allows only 5 write-ins. Let logic & arithmetic be your pal.

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Oldman

Sorry Supe! I obviously answered the wrong poster. I’ll try and do better.

Wild Bill

That charm is why everyone wants to converse with him.

Russn8r

Try not to be a hypocrite.

Oldman

Unfortunately, it sees things that us lower individuals are too dumb to see…Must be great to consider itself as King,

Russn8r

Stop your hate.

Wild Bill

You stop your hate … self hate.

Russn8r

Plus One.

Wild Bill

That is not even a sentence. You know … a complete thought.

Russn8r

Try not to be so rude.

Oldman

The same to you lil’ Buddy

Chuck

As a longtime Life Member I agree, things need to change. I do not think or agree that the NRA needs disbanded. It needs a high colonic enema. Maybe it’s because I’m involved at the local/State level, and that’s why I don’t think the organization needs to go. For one thing, none of the other 2 A Advocacy groups is up to the task of taking the NRA’s place, when it comes to training, certification, and education. People tend to forget that the NRA is more than just the ILA branch of the organization, and that those other branches have… Read more »

JH1961

I will not renew my NRA membership as long as they employ LaPierre.

Jeff

I got conned into upgrading to Patriot Life and then the truth about WLP and his cronies came out.

JJ1

You’re not alone Jeff. WLP and his band of cronies on the Board have done a very good job of keeping membership in the dark about the corruption and misappropriation of funds for a very long time. See my earlier response to you, and vote only for Frank Tait on your ballot, and help spread the word to other voting members of the NRA that you know.

Jason

The NRA has been betraying gun owners at least since the days of Harry Reid.

Roland T. Gunner

Since the days of Elliot Ness.

RetUSAF

Since the 1930s.

Henry Bowman

Much earlier than that, sadly. While NRA was OK with colluding with Harry Reid at the time, other groups were NOT.

hippybiker

I gave up on the NRA after what they did to Neal Knox! Join GOA! I did years ago!

Jeff

I’m in both. I stopped giving to the NRA, though.

Oldvet

that’s the beauty of being a life member , we are nothing but an expense to them now , albeit a small one .

Wild Bill

Today the wind is just howling out of the NW. Must have had some extra cold in Mpls that they wanted to get rid of. How about you?

john

Sunny 78 degrees in Georgia maybe rain Saturday We were hoping to go to the rodeo tomorrow. See what it looks like in the morning.

john

sure will

Wild Bill

Keep them strac!

Wild Bill

No more Midway round up pennies, either!

musicman44mag

I never give round up money or donate to anyone at any store. The reason why is, it is your money, they store donates it for you but claims your donation on their taxes. Total rip off.

If you want to donate, do it direct.

JSNMGC

“they store donates it for you but claims your donation on their taxes”

If they do, they are violating the tax code.

Since the practice is so visible, it is likely that no medium or large companies attempt to deduct donations they collect for others.

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musicman44mag

Try to prove where the donation came from and the bigger they are the more they take advantage of everyone and everything. With all your constant claims that good republicans are socialist if they agree with a graduated tax base on a daily basis and that charging the rich with more property taxes is wrong when they have over X amount of property and X amount of dwelling and X amount of income and that the top 1 percent pay more taxes than the entire nation boggles the mind that you would bother to take the time to comment. I… Read more »

JSNMGC

Medium and large companies that have retail transactions (whether it is brick and mortar or internet) have systems that are easy to audit.

I’m not sure of the point you are trying to make in your second paragraph, but it includes some inaccuracies.

Your third paragraph is untrue – why do you resort to personal attacks when I just indicated you were mistaken about part of the tax code?

What does your fourth paragraph have to do with retailers not being allowed to deduct donations that they collect from others?

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musicman44mag

Proof is that there are some inaccuracies in the second paragraph. What I stated is nothing that you have not said on multiple occasions. Maybe the top percentage might be wrong, but you can’t deny that you constantly complain about what you perceive as an unfair tax structure. In the third paragraph your comment is incomplete and missing that you called me a socialist because you don’t like my stand on graduated taxes, remember that? You have also stressed that on other occasions in the last week on other posts directly to me and about others. Last paragraph has everything… Read more »

JSNMGC

The top 10% of earners pay about 70% of federal income taxes. I raise the issue on the tax structure when people try to indicate that socialism is something relatively new in America. It’s not – 1913 was a big year in terms of advancing socialism in America. I’ve tried to provide you some information last year and this year, but some of your views are based on feelings and it doesn’t appear as though you will change them based on facts. The following (that you wrote above) is full of inaccuracies: “The little guy which is the backbone of… Read more »

musicman44mag

LOL, the New Dork post. You are swallowing from the propaganda machine that supports your inaccuracies.
I use the basic math, logic and the numbers thank you.

JSNMGC

Do you think AOC did not wear a “Tax the Rich” dress?

Is this better?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-tax-the-rich-dress-met-gala

What have I written that is inaccurate?

I provided you information before to show that Warren Buffet isn’t the typical person in the upper 10%. He’s in the upper 1/10th of 1%.

The typical person in the upper 10% doesn’t have “tax shelters.” They pay high average tax rates.

Finnky

One does not need to be anywhere near the top 10% to have a tax shelter. I opened my first 401k when my income was $40k and have been sheltering money in 401k’s most years since.

A 401k absolutely is a tax shelter, as is a Roth, or a child or a mortgaged home.

Anyone with any sense who is not living paycheck to paycheck uses tax shelters.

musicman44mag

Wow, didn’t know we had so many truth haters out here or are you one of the chosen to down vote no matter what like others on here.

Russn8r

Evasive ad hominem whining. You’re being heavily upvoted by the LEO sock puppeteers you’ve been sucking up to recently.

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JSNMGC

“One does not need to be anywhere near the top 10% to have a tax shelter. I opened my first 401k when my income was $40k and have been sheltering money in 401k’s most years since. A 401k absolutely is a tax shelter, as is a Roth, or a child or a mortgaged home. Anyone with any sense who is not living paycheck to paycheck uses tax shelters.” 401K contributions don’t take a top 10% earner’s tax rate down below the rate being paid by someone making $45K. That’s not what is being discussed here. Musicman44mag is referring to something… Read more »

Russn8r

Pure ad hominem deflection: You lose.

musicman44mag

LOL, NOT. Typical deflection of the left using sources that are not credible while acting like they are the authority and in the know on all topics. I don’t believe or trust Fox news either. Everyone is deceiving us on a scale never seen before. The fact that you believe what they say shows that you are of the same fold as him, maybe you are the same person since you always appear right after his posts supporting him in going against others in a matter of seconds Why don’t you mention EPOCH times? Why are they never mentioned in… Read more »

JSNMGC

Do you think AOC did not wear a “Tax the Rich” dress?

“Tax the Rich” has been the battle cry of socialists or over a hundred years.

musicman44mag

Well, less programs, less government, smaller retirements, is the real answer but in the meantime since demonkkkrats control the foolish and want free shit, the only source of income is the rich that has tax shelters and protections against losing massive amounts of money, more money in one month than the people that support and keep this country moving make in a year. As my mom used to say, can’t get blood out of a turnip. I believe I have tried to enlighten you with this information before this year and last, yet you seem to be stuck holding on… Read more »

JSNMGC

The top 10% of earners pay about 70% of federal income taxes. The top 25% of earners pay about 85% of federal income taxes. Those facts are not a narrative, they are facts. Of course government is too vast, too expensive, and too oppressive. Leaping from that true statement to saying that the “little guy” pays the highest tax rates and the majority of taxes is just based on emotions. I disagree with people who have the opinion that tax rates should be increased. People who believe the “little guy” pays the highest rates and the group of “little guys”… Read more »

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Russn8r

LOL more simplistic ad hominem deflection, strawmen, non-sequiturs & hysterical handwaving.

I don’t always do anything. Why would I mention Epoch times when I don’t read Epoch times? What does it have to do with anything but your smokescreen?

musicman44mag

Why would I want to believe anything that anyone has to say that believes the New Dork Xs toilet paper and constantly refers to it as the only news source that is accurate or supplies news from other disney, demonkkkrat owned news like fox.

JSNMGC

You are a big Hannity fan, aren’t you?

https://hannity.com/media-room/for-the-people-watch-aoc-at-elite-gala-with-masked-helpers-carrying-her-tax-the-rich-gown/

Do you think AOC did not wear a “Tax the Rich” dress?

musicman44mag

Ok, to you and russian supporter. I am not going to be one of the people that take up space on the board or in other people’s heads reading a bunch of arguments (BS) after I have complained about that numerus times.

Russn8r

Another idiotic, cowardly, evasive, ad hominem comment. I’m not russian or a russian supporter.

JSNMGC

There is plenty of space – please go on. Explaining taxes to you is similar to attempting to convince a Moms Demand Action zealot that AR15s are not “automatic baby-killing weapons of war that shoot 100 round magazine clips in half a second and are more powerful than hunting rifles.” They just feel they are right and no amount of facts will dissaude them. Do you think AOC did not wear a “Tax the Rich” dress? Do you disgree that “tax the rich” is the battle cry of socialists? Do you believe that the average federal tax rate paid by… Read more »

Russn8r

Forget it Jake, he’s a socialist from OreGONE.

JSNMGC

The End.

Dr. Strangelove

Second Amendment Foundation and National Association for Gun Rights are also very good.

Henry Bowman

Don’t forget GOA & FPC! They’re the tip of the spear!

2gats

Did the nra betray gun owners?

Duh!

Green Mtn. Boy

Consistently since 1934.

Vince

Appeasement did not work with Hitler, certainly won’t work with Biden.

Cruiser

Don’t throw out the whole barrel because of a few bad apples. We are the NRA (The members) not the few corrupt grifters who were elected to the board. We just need to be informed voters in NRA elections. Our country is going to the same situation, our government is broken. Hopefully we can do something before more damage is done. We can fix the NRA if we get the dishonest lawyers out of the mix. Looks like the bylaws need to be revisited. Why are there so many board members? are they active or just there for the title… Read more »

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JPM

When the same criminals that have corrupted the NRA still run the NRA, including the counting of the votes, do you really think you can change things by voting? Were you asleep during the last Presidential election? The members may think that “they are the NRA”, but their votes and input on dumping LaPierre and his toadies who control and run the NRA are as about as effective as a fart in a whirlwind.

Wild Bill

a) Stalin
b) Wayne La Pierre
c) all of the above

Dr. Strangelove

The NRA is like our government. The voters no longer matter.

Henry Bowman

You need to visit the Save the Second website http://www.savethe2a.org and help them save the NRA (if that’s even possible). Over the years, Radioactive Wayne has insulated himself by getting the bylaws amended a little at a time and stacking all his cronies (yes-men and women), so that he controls the voting for BoD members and thus removing the possibility of him ever being voted out. All because he was bad for the NRA since day one and was nearly ousted by Neal Knox’s group of reformers…

Whiny LaTrine is the metastasized cancer at the core of the NRA.

Russn8r
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Henry Bowman

Pincus is on the same list that I have WLP on. It’s a very short list,
While I support the STS organization, I will never have anything for Pincus. He’s so full of himself he’s brown from head to toe. AND… he supports gun control, like Radioactive Wayne & Josh Powell. And your typical NRA member knows nothing about any of this, and will actively dispute fact statements that have been proven some time ago. These fudds are the reason why NRA is in the shape it’s in.

BTW, I see you hit jackpot again! -12!

grant

Did The NRA Betray Gun Owners?YES

Ansel Hazen

Do any of these nit brained anti gun clowns realize they have just created a cottage industry for those who can fill out a 4473 and pass?

My state allows private gun sales between individuals so I suspect I will be able to pad my meager retirement wages providing a service to this new market.

Wild Bill

I like everything you said except, “… state allows…” . We all have the Right to sell guns privately.

RicktheBear

Several States would disagree with you there.

Roland T. Gunner

Those state governments need to be kicked to the curb.

Ansel Hazen

I agree WB. But as RicktheBear says there are a few communist controlled states that might have an issue with folks selling guns out of their cars in a public parking lot. Like many of us do in Maine.:-)

Wild Bill

Don’t they have gun shows, gun collection admiring friends, garage sales and grand nephews in Maine?

None

Definatley Washington state, The west side is almost all liberial anti gunners who walk lock step with Dems.

Arizona

F#ck rhe NRA

Green Mtn. Boy

In case you haven’t smelled the coffee lately, Negotiating Rights Away has a long proud tradition of betraying members and Americans 2 nd. amendment rights, over and over again since 1934.

DDS

Some say that the NRA is the world’s largest, oldest gun control organization.

Are they wrong?

Can you back up your opinion with facts?

Happy Everafter

New York City, Sullivan Act, 1911, earliest gun control organization?
Two people killed by a gun (murder/suicide) in NYC, gun control starts!
In fact, 4 people died by elevator the same year, but somehow gravity control laws were never considered…

Henry Bowman

Consider THESE facts:

john

The NRA of old is not the NRA of Today

Green Mtn. Boy

It has been since 1934

john

The NRA at one time being a member was something to be proud of today not so they are lost in their own bureaucracy. Money is there power Members Money.

The truth be told at this point in time I am a lesser fan of the democrats and the Biden administration. They are dangerous with one goal our firearms in a big pile for the world to witness.

I am not a fan to each their own.

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Wild Bill

Huh. Oh … Yes. I, too, am a lesser fan of Biden and the Democrat party than I am of dog shit on the kitchen floor.

john

I can include Hollywood please move to Canada as promised. These are the same Hollywood anti gun liberal democrats that say Do As I Say Not As I Do While making some of the most violent movies of today Interesting that all of these actors who make millions from their movies complain about fossil fuels, but don’t acknowledge that their houses, cars, yachts, cellphones, or their jobs and way of life were completely made by fossil fuels. Our economy is driven by energy, not movies. We derive over 60% of our electrical power from oil and gas. Less than 12%… Read more »

john

White men in general are now disappearing on every ad campaign on the television. It is the Woke Movement and the corporate world is involved sad to say.

Oldvet

John …White females are still considered trophies I guess .

Oldvet

WB…I’ve been seeing a lot of out of state plates lately . 2 from oregone just today , and Canadian truckers too . Makes one wonder if they are migrating . looking places over or what .

Wild Bill

I don’t know. I, myself, have a collection of plate. You know, just in case an escape is necessary.

Oldvet

WB…A fresh supply of plates can always be had at any walmart parking lot

Wild Bill

Yep, the boycott is on.

Russn8r

“waste of time, perverse of mind, squalor of mouth, mannerless” and hypocritical.
“https://www.ammoland.com/2022/03/why-did-florida-constitutional-carry-fail-again/#comment-2925143

Wild Bill

Thank you, thank you very much!

john

True Progressivism is a communist ideology Those americans who have signed up for that party no not what they have done. History is no longer taught for quite some time.

BadBilly21

The NRA is dead to me until Wayne is gone!!

Russn8r

Wayne gone won’t change a thing unless his crew is bounced. The whole 76-rubber-stamp board is complicit, with 1 exception:

Rocky Marshall, the sole director with the courage & integrity to vote against the retroactive bankruptcy approval.

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Russn8r

P.S. The rest either actively voted for the retroactive b/k scam or voted “present” (weak) or didn’t attend (dereliction) yet still hang on to their seats.

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Grigori

I dropped out of the NRA sometime around 2009-2011. I have less than zero plans to ever re-join.

Quatermain

Pretty much ever since the NFA.

Glypto Dropem

There’s a reason a lot of us refuse to support the NRA and say that those letters actually stand for “Negotiating our Rights Away.”

The Second Amendment is ABSOLUTE! Every gun law or regulation IS AN INFRINGEMENT and should be repealed. There should be no discussion or debate about it

Henry Bowman

Absofrickenlutely! The only good gun law is one that equips, trains, and supports the citizen militia at large (essentially every law-abiding citizen in the country from 18-60). If the feds were to give us all the military hardware we want, like what Dementia Joe & Comrade Milley did for the taliban, That would be a gun law I would support because THAT would be constitutional [Article 1, Sec. 8]. I would be happy to be issued Level 4 body armor, an M4, and a couple sealed battle packs of 5.56NATO that would be mine to keep for life… Of course… Read more »

Henry Bowman

Silence = Consent.
NRA should have been up in their faces like all the other 2A orgs.

swmft

dont put down wiener mobile for the shit sandwich crew

Oldvet

Excuse me I thought that was the nra dildo.

Henry Bowman

Bahahahaha!!! It’s the Waynemobile!

Dah-dah-dah-THAT’S ALL, FOLKS!

Russn8r

NRA’s VAWA betrayal is deja vu. Lucky (La)Pierre helped ‘2A hero’ Harry Reid ‘fix’ anti-gun Obamacare, then went ‘neutral’, enabling it to pass by one vote. Then flew to Nevada to campaign for Reid, helping him barely defeat true pro-2A Tea Party Republican Sharron Angle.

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Arizona

The Never Respect Arms is a plague on humanity, corrupt to the core and only focused on enriching its executive board.

swmft

that has happened to all the deep pocket charities red cross has become cash cow for directors it was run by volunteers, only paid people were day to day like people that answered phones in emergency, recovery crews were all volunteers, many companies would give workers up to three mouths paid time off to help , now we have thieves like la pew plundering

Orion

and still you lie and post bogus claims.
Show us all where the NRA supported the 1994 AWB……
you cant…..because it never happened.
do you remember that long 6 month fight in the Senate, post Sandy Hook, when every rabid Democrat was foaming at their mouths and trying to slam through a much more draconian AWB 2.0? Or who those same dems blamed for their AWB legislation being shot down at the last moment??
lol….. it wasnt your GOA.

i see you still havent checked-in with your doc. pathetic.

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Russn8r

Shillbo Buggins can’t stop dissembling.

NRA has tricks to backdoor grabs they allegedly don’t support. e.g. Wink at pols: Don’t worry, you’ll keep your phony A if you vote for AWBs, Lautenberg, Sotomayor, etc. Put Bill Ruger, Father of AW & magazine bans on the Rifleman as a “2A Hero”. They OPENLY pushed Veterans Disarmament HR 2640. I was there when NRA helped Ruger “fix” the Cali ban to exempt his “sporting” rifles, enabling the ban to pass by ONE vote. They played similar games with the federal AWB. And LaPew helped Reid pass Obamacare. Just the tip of the iceberg of your betrayals.

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Henry Bowman

You’re right over the target; you triggered the usual suspects and got a lot of sockpuppet downvotes. Thanks for the updated meme and when necessary, I’ll use it again!