U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- In a recent article about the intricacies of passing a Constitutional Carry bill in Nebraska, it was noted people with a recognized permit to carry concealed in Nebraska was not required to register their handguns in Omaha, Nebraska. Omaha, specifically the Omaha Police Officer’s Association, was lobbying hard to keep the Omaha requirement of registration of handguns.
Under current Omaha regulations, people who do not have concealed carry permits which are valid in Nebraska, are required to register handguns in Omaha.
Commentator Jon Anderson of the Nebraska Firearms Owners Association noted:
Omaha ALREADY requires registration of all handguns possessed inside city limits UNLESS the possessor has a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP holders are exempt from registration. This has been the norm for YEARS.
Commentator Russn8r replied:
No, they’re not. A concealed carry permit *is* registration! Extensive registration.
Both are correct, in a sense. CHP holders in Nebraska are not required to register any firearms, handguns, or long guns.
A concealed carry permit is a “registration” of a sort. It is registration showing the person who has the permit applied for and received a permit to carry a concealed handgun (in Nebraska or some other states) or weapon (in Arizona or some other states). Such “registration” has little significance because it does not tie the person registered to any particular handgun. It does not show the person registered owns a handgun. Numerous students in the concealed carry courses that I conducted in Arizona did not own guns.
This is a significant difference in the level of registration. Legally tying ownership of a particular firearm to a particular person is a stepping stone to confiscating guns from the population slowly, in increments. Registration of guns with particular owners, is, in effect, gun confiscation.
Registration of someone as having received a carry permit has little effect. It shows the person is likely to own a firearm. Many other things do so as well, such as reading AmmoLand. It is difficult to avoid having your viewing history on the internet recorded and tracked. If you purchase a firearm, ammunition, or a firearm accessory with a credit card, you are on a list of potential firearms owners. If you subscribe to any hunting or shooting magazine or belong to any shooting or Second Amendment group, you are on a list as valid as having a carry permit. If you have a hunting license, you are on a list.
In the United States, about 40% of residents are strong, potential firearms owners. In some states, such as Alabama, Alaska, and Arizona, the number of likely firearms owners is a significant majority of the residents of the state. What good does a list of potential firearms owners do, when a list of residents is mostly the same?
Most states who issue carry permits do not require information about a particular firearm in order to issue the permit. There are a couple of exceptions.
California appears to list specific firearms on the permits they issue for carry. If particular sheriffs in California do not do so, please inform us of the practice.
New Jersey requires information about the specific firearms that would be carried.
Some local jurisdictions that issue permits to carry, such as Sheriffs in a few states, might require information about specific handguns, but it seems unlikely.
A few states require registration of all guns or just handguns, such as California, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York. A person with a carry permit does not add much information to their database.
About Dean Weingarten:
Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.
The government is specifically prohibited from involving itself in our choice of weapons, how we carry them, or what we build, buy and possess. We don’t need no stinking permits.
The answer is in the simple but strict reading of the second amendment. The government has no constitutional authority to impose any restrictions whatsoever on a free American citizen’s right to keep and bear arms this obviously includes registrations of any kind, cc permits etc. Legislators trying to look busy or important or outright trying to destroy the rights and freedoms we all enjoy by infringing on the constitution upon the citizenry is what I call legislative mission creep. There are some truly evil despots in all three branches of government but the 2A is clear; “A well regulated militia,… Read more »
No permit required in Montana and that’s the way its suppose to be in all 50 states. Freedom does not require a permit . Tyrants do require permits so they can use it to confiscate it when they decide you do not need it anymore . America promotes freedom and it’s time the tyrants get with the program or get removed out of all positions of power !
Texas now allows carrying without a license however, the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission has almost autonomous control over any business that sells alcohol. Even at stores that sell it for “off premises consumption”. They have forbidden the unlicensed carry of a gun into any establishment that sells alcohol, period. Most gas stations and convenience stores sell beer so, that means that unlicensed people can not legally carry there. If you’re licensed, you can. I have a license but, that’s all Texas knows. They don’t know how many guns I have or what type of gun I have. All they know… Read more »
Getting a CCW in Kommiefornia depends on your county. Looking at an electoral map is a fairly reliable indicator. “Red” county Sheriffs generally see it as shall issue. Sacramento and LA counties are two notable exceptions. Within the last year or so, LA sheriff Alex Villanueva has been issuing permits to those who jumped through the hoops. Issuing permits was a campaign promise that Sacramento Sheriff Scott Jones actually kept.
CCW holders can have up to 3 guns on their permit and you have to live fire qualify with each one.
florida has a ccw, mace and pepper spray as well as knives fall under this
if you have a nsa item you are on a list
Approval of a concealed carry permit means that first and foremost I am a good american a law biden citizen. I disagree with the process that goes with obtaining a ccp in most states. As our constitution says different in the writing of the second amendment.
We have given the politicians to much power form mayors to allowing county commissioners to influence law enforcement and the courts. As for Washington those 545 elected need a reminder in 2022 We The People have a say.
I would agree with the writer’s premise & notion that any CCW license is a registration/acknowledgement/indicator of 2nd A & mindset awareness of that individual. It’s a reference/index/metric starting point for any state to assess it’s citizens. Certain states (e.g. Washington) have already violated 2nd A by NOT allowing law abiding citizens to legally purchase a firearm who reside in another state. That is a form of backdoor tyranny – gun control b/c it interferes with the FFL’s commerce potential/ability $$$ & RIGHT to pursue his/her right to pursue a livelihood aka happiness as a legal FFL dealer from making… Read more »
“Such ‘registration’ has little significance because it does not tie the person registered to any handgun. Numerous students in CCW courses I conducted in AZ did not own guns.”
The danger of registration is a tyrannical gvt, not one that respects presumption of innocence. Think a tyrannical gvt will assume the person doesn’t own a gun? Give them the benefit of doubt?
It’s technically not gun registration in some states, but it’s de facto gun owner registration in all states. In many states the person has to declare the exact gun to be used, making it direct gun registration.