IN Senator Force Against Constitutional Carry, Update Bill Passes

Hoosier Governor To Defend The Second Amendment? - Eric Holcomb, iStock-884171528
Hoosier Governor To Defend The Second Amendment? – Eric Holcomb, iStock-884171528

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)-– A confidential source has informed me of events involving the Indiana Constitutional Carry legislation in 2022. The source claimed Senator Liz Brown (R) of Senate District 15 has been the major force blocking the passage of Constitutional Carry. The source claimed Governor Holcombe wants the bill killed and is pushing Senator Brown to do the killing.

In particular, the source stated that Senator Liz Brown was adamant, and emotional in the Republican Caucus meeting on Thursday, March 3rd,  denouncing a provision in HB 1077, which required minors who use a firearm in a crime to be tried as adults. The tactic was successful, with the Republican leadership bending to Brown’s insistence the provision be removed from the bill.

This tactic may kill the bill. The Indiana legislature is on a very short time budget, with many bills to enact before the legislative session ends at midnight on Tuesday, March 8. To change the bill at this point requires the amendment be made, the bill then voted on in the Senate and passed. Then the bill has to be sent back to the House, voted on, and passed, all before midnight on 8 March.

The source was disgusted because Brown has attempted to show herself as a proponent of Constitutional Carry.  The attempt at showing herself as a supporter is easily verified. On January 7, 2022, AP reported Senator Liz Brown is co-sponsoring a similar bill in the Senate.

The chairwoman of the state Senate committee that blocked the repeal effort last year is co-sponsoring a bill similar to the House proposal for this year’s session.

The source stated the Senate Republican leader,  Rodric Bray, is now a supporter of passing the Constitutional Carry bill. This is partly confirmed by a member of Indianagunowners.com.

At about 5 a.m. on March 7, 2022, from KellyinAvon at indianagunowners.com:

Second link below is for Senate President Pro Tempore Bray. His Legislative Assistant (Kayla) is at 317-232-9416. Again polite, professional, “thank you for your support on SB 209 with House-passed HB 1077 language.”

I think Senator Bray has “seen the light” on this issue. Calls of support also have the affect of letting him know we are paying attention.

This correspondent has seen similar situations in several other states, where a popular bill is effectively killed by one stubborn legislator, ideologically committed to a position, which they do not want their constituents to know about. Second Amendment activists worked hard to bring the bill up for a vote.

Delay is often used to kill bills. The vote in the Senate Committee on House Bill 1077 was delayed until near the end of the session.

In Senator Liz Brown’s case, the strong emotions she showed during the committee hearing on the bill showed she is ideologically committed against Constitutional Carry. She knows this costs her votes, so she works to disguise her position.

Politicians who commit to one position to gain votes, but work behind the scenes against their public position, are not uncommon.

It is a betrayal of public confidence. The deception of voters is a cornerstone of “Progressive” governance.

It is becoming harder and harder to deceive Second Amendment activists. They have learned to watch closely what a politician does, not just what they say.

Senator Brown’s tactics may work. Constitutional Carry may again be defeated in the Indiana Senate.

Senator Brown is not the only Republican who holds responsibility if Constitutional Carry is killed, but she has a significant share.

Senator Brown is unopposed in the state primary election to be held on May 3, 2022.  February 4th was the deadline for a candidate to file for the primary election. Senator Brown had two Republicans vote with her to gut the Constitutional Carry bill in the Judiciary Committee where she is the Chair. The three Republicans joined with 3 Democrats to gut the bill by amendment, with a vote of 6-5.

The two  Republicans who joined with Senator Liz Brown were Senator Mike Bohacek of District 8 and Senator Susan Glick of District 13. They will not be up for re-election until 2024.

Update: Constitutional Carry passes the Indiana Legislature a little after 9 p.m. on Tuesday, March 8, 2022, the last day of the session.


About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Henry Bowman

Wow, the bill actually got through! As a former Hoosier, I’m amazed that the RINOs failed for once. With RINOs always voting against our interests and Rights, I truly expected nothing but the opposite and never saw it coming. Indiana is a deep red state and the only Dem presence is in the urban centers. Dems are a small minority. Sadly, constitutionalist Republicans are also a very very small minority. So the RINOs rule the roost, again, sadly to say. It is also why after living for more than 50 years in Indiana, I pulled the plug and moved out… Read more »

Russn8r

“ConCarry”: The go-to meat tossed out to pacify conservatives angry about all the other RINO crap like winking at election fraud, seating Xiden’s Junta, Red Flag etc. e.g. AZ-GA-IA-TX.

Arizona Hobbits thought they were safe in The Shire with “CC”, so both US Senate seats & the White House where stolen from them.

Iowa’s entire federal delegation opposed the Hawley-Cruz election audit, then, suddenly, voilà! “CC”. All’s Well In The Shire!

Texans were catching on to Abbott’s betrayals, so voilà! “CC”! All’s Well In The Shire, he gets reelected to continue sabotaging the rest of the conservative agenda.

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Henry Bowman

While I still support ConCarry as a step in the right direction, believe me, I’m constantly reminding everyone that just because some RINOs do us a solid every now and again, they are still actively undermining our freedom, expanding government & generally acting like tyrants (because they ARE)… RINOs and Commiecrats need to be removed swiftly!

swmft

brown constituents should have a recall would allow replacement to go in and the slap would wake up the others

Jsauerii

The problem with women in office is they are too easy to blackmail, not that they are alone in that but they act via emotions and get them and us all in a bind. Someone has something on a lot of these people, I keep thinking that the most likely culprit is the epstien files the FBI snagged. I believe they are using it to clean out the demonrat party to fill it with their own CCP ops but they are getting many RINO’s too. Something is happening because even locally I am seeing people we grew up with and… Read more »

Russn8r

Same problem with “men” in office, e.g. Queen Lindsey of Carolina, Cabana Boy Marco Rubio, Kevin McCarthy, Paul Ryan, John Boehner.

Jsauerii

Well I said they weren’t alone but then again you are speaking of many that are quite feminine themselves, they like the D as well and are emotionally and mentally unstable. 🙂

CourageousLion

Isn’t the 2nd amendment Constitutional? Doesn’t it say SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED? Where does it say anything about WHAT, WHERE or HOW you carry the arms that it mentions? I guess I need a copy of THAT 2nd amendment…Oh wait, here it is: The NEW Second Amendment of the amended US Bill of Rights… (sorry, we no longer follow “proper procedure” for amending these pain in the ass listed rights) A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed EXCEPT: You are… Read more »

bigtony777

the law of minors involved in gun killings and later tried as adults, is the best position we as american people can take. im ex military , in the war times of my life, war is a mans thing, but when woman and children jumping in and take over the man position they to become a man. as a trained sniper in the field my job is to protect my soldiers in the field before it happens, in the movie American Sniper, when the woman and the kid were holding the RPG in hand , in my field of view… Read more »

Deg4u

Amen Amen, I agree with all you said. I too am able to be American Sniper. I do think all the people that is willing to setup in sniper positions could eliminate a whole lot of this illegal gov.

Bucketboy

Yea. Just be thankful you don’t have Romney as your US senator. What a con man.

john

Not all republicans are in favor of a bill that permits constitutional carry

willyd

But they want their private security!!!!!!!!!

Stocks

Now we’re all over the Governor to sign it or at least ignore it to get it into law. Governor Holcomb is rumored to be readying a Senate run. Indiana gun owners will prevent that from happening. He’s a Rino.

J Gibbons

There is a fairly good chance he vetoes the bill based on the load of BS from ISP Supt Carter.

willyd

He is scum like Wolf in Pa!!!!!!!

Russn8r

And Oz.

nrringlee

Excellent work, Dean. And yes, deception of the public is a hallmark of all flavors of Progressive government and public policy and always has been. The very foundation of Progressive ideology is Social Darwinsim which refutes our very cute notion of equality before the law and equality in the eye of God. Progressives of all stripes refute any notion of equity in our founding political philosophy. They also refute any notion that integrity is a key component of public confidence in public institutions. You see, they just assume that they are the smartest kids in the classroom and that the… Read more »

musicman44mag

Wow, really had me disappointed until I read the last line. Well, I hope the constitutional carry applies to non residents to.

CourageousLion

It has to under the 14 amendment. Oh wait, what’s that?

Montana454Casull

Democrats and RINOs fear a free and armed society . They want to rule over people and make us all servants to thier whims . Liz Brown sounds like she is one of those power hungry tyrants . Hope her constituents see through her BS and give her ,her walking papers to a job in the private sector where she no longer has the power to infringe on law biding citizens rights !

CourageousLion

Why should they fear us unless they aren’t lying, cheating, stealing, robbing, raping, murdering, psychopathic control freak politicians? Did I repeat myself?

Tackleberry

Unless I’m mistaken, only a few states have gone all the way and enshrined this in their Constitutions. While I’m all for these bills, my big question is with the legislation. It’s one thing to create a bill and subsequent law but quite another to amend their State’s Constitutions. Just as what happened in Virgina, the Democrats gained the majority and immediately began stripping away what had been done to bolster 2A rights, something easy to do time and again with a simple majority. I will certainly take what we can get, but these legislators should be looking toward amending… Read more »

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J Gibbons

Very true, and why it should be rightly referred to as “permitless” carry. It’s only “constitutional” in terms of the 2A being in the US Constitution. However, we all know that Dems and Progressives would rather use the Constitution as TP than follow anything it says.

Random71

In Indiana we don’t even need to go to the federal document to gain the moniker of “constitutional carry”, our constitution is more cut and dry than the federal one.

Article 1 Section 32: The people shall have the right to bear arms in defense of themselves and the state.

CourageousLion

Reads pretty simple to me! Apparently the politicians and “law” enforcement class is made up of functional illiterates.

CourageousLion

TP? Oh, you mean TOILET PAPER? That’s been going on since the War for Southern Independence.