Weekend Mass Shootings Will Be A Familiar Tale – And A Warning

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Contrary to what many loud voices in the media have been saying, Second Amendment supporters, to a person, are horrified at the events that took place in Buffalo and Laguna Woods over the weekend. iStock-1138299265

-(AmmoLand.com)- Contrary to what many loud voices in the media have been saying, Second Amendment supporters, to a person, are horrified at the events that took place in Buffalo and Laguna Woods over the weekend. Unlike many others, though, we had to deal with the usual lies and the ghoulish exploitation of a horrific act by anti-Second Amendment extremists.

Once again, Second Amendment supporters will need to reject the notion that their opposition to the agenda pushed by anti-Second Amendment extremists over the years makes them culpable in any way, shape, or form for what happened. The moral culpability for these acts is on those who carried them out, and the efforts by anti-Second Amendment extremists to blame us for exercising our First Amendment rights to protect the Second Amendment should be shut down.

This is one of those times where it is not just okay to respond with anger at anti-Second Amendment extremists, it is a tactical and strategic necessity. Not punching back is a form of unilateral disarmament that poses a far greater danger than a few rhetorical broadsides, and the considerations as to how we punch back should also be tactical and strategic.

While it is still early, there are indications that the alleged Buffalo shooter (who doesn’t deserve any notoriety for the despicable actions he supposedly carried out) gave off warning signs, but that no real action was taken to head him off. This will cause a push for more “red flag” laws with plenty of issues vis-à-vis due process.

The fact of the matter is that Second Amendment supporters need to find ways to address these types of incidents and to prevent them. At some point, we can’t just offer thoughts and prayers, we need to offer solutions that don’t threaten the Second Amendment, because failure to do so over the long term will lead to the likes of Bloomberg packing the Supreme Court, at which point, we could lose Heller and McDonald.

In the short to medium term, though, we could also see a very real threat of financial deplatforming, as banks and insurance companies could very well enact a form of social credit that would exclude the firearms industry. Do you really think companies wouldn’t impose such an agenda?

Loyal Ammoland readers, take a good look at the entire “Environmental, Social, and Governance” (ESG) efforts taking place in corporate America, then ask yourself if you really don’t think that an anti-Second Amendment agenda will become a criterion for a company to get a high ESG score.

The legal victories that could be in store for the Second Amendment will be good news. However, at the same time, we need to remember that these legal victories will not be the end all and be all. Our system of government contemplates the repeal of the Second Amendment or packing the Supreme Court.

To prevent those, Second Amendment supporters need to defeat anti-Second Amendment extremists via the ballot box at the federal, state, and local levels. But that will take real efforts to come up with Second Amendment compliant solutions to mass shootings.

 


About Harold Hutchison

Writer Harold Hutchison has more than a dozen years of experience covering military affairs, international events, U.S. politics and Second Amendment issues. Harold was consulting senior editor at Soldier of Fortune magazine and is the author of the novel Strike Group Reagan. He has also written for the Daily Caller, National Review, Patriot Post, Strategypage.com, and other national websites.

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Henry Bowman

1 day closer to the combination Civil War 2 / 2nd American Revolution.
Stay strapped or get clapped.

Captain A

PayPal already does not allow guns and gun accessories to be paid for with Pay Pal! No one is even looking at what Democrats are doing. We have had less that 200 Mass shootings in over 50 years (since 1966) So why are Democrats, Handgun inc. and a lot of anti- gun organizations claiming “Thousands just this year alone”???? Because they redefined Mass Shooting proper definition 4 people Dead aside from the gunmen.. New definition 4 people dead OR WOUNDED, buy add those 2 words it Skyrocketed Statistics! example over this past weekend World News reported 13 “Mass shootings” Under… Read more »

john

Those of you who are negative in thought are unattractive to others in life

“No fear, no hesitation, no surprise, no doubt.”
I wish you all a good night

DDS

Actually, Sir, I’m rather pleased to read that you don’t find me attractive.

Have a nice day!

john

 “Wisdom is the warrior’s greatest weapon. When you have wisdom, you are never unarmed, you are never defenseless, and you are never powerless. You need the skill to know how to shoot an arrow straight, but only wisdom can teach you how to never need to shoot it.”

“Master the divine techniques of the Art of Peace and no enemy will dare to challenge you.”

KK

Spend 5 minutes under a table during a “mass shooting”. Realize that waiting 5 minutes for a police response feels like 5 hours . . . and then they wait an hour to enter . . . not an option. Experience the HORROR.
At that point all your pretty prose goes in the trash, and a .45 in your belt is lifesaving invaluable.
Those innocent children in Uvalde . . . and probably their teachers, lived according to “the divine techniques of the Art of Peace” . . . and they got slaughtered, shot dead,
So GO AWAY!

john

Okay then one more time ///// Parents need to look at what their children are doing under the roof they provide for their children. Social media goes undetected by parents today who and what those in your home are doing and saying or plotting. Democrats made it harder for parents to correct the mistakes of their children through liberal politics that the democrats now inforce in the daily lives of children. They have instructed children to rat out parents that discipline their children to school officials. The department no list parents as domestic terrorist for speaking up at school board… Read more »

KK

BRAVO!

Tank

Here’s a really good question. When does the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act that legalized propaganda on the American people & when do the DHS/FEMA Active Shooter exercises end ? Can’t stop willful ignorance or stupidity & the human condition has NEVER been plumed & I don’t see that ever happening. Mass Shootings phenomenon are a newly crafted & designed propagandized form of social-cultural control using scripted crisis actors & events designed to trigger Barking Moon Bat emotional brained thinkers. Unfortunately we can’t think or see it for the consciously dumbed down. Why Staged-Deception Events Are Used More Often Than Pure False-Flags… Read more »

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KK

NEWSFLASH:

They do not want to protect schools . . . or children.

THEY WANT TO DISARM US!

StLPro2A

BINGO!!! “That is why our masters in Washington are so anxious to disarm us. They are not afraid of criminals. They are afraid of a populace which cannot be subdued by tyrants.” – the late Col Jeff Cooper. Once again, politicians with laws never stop bad guys with guns. They only control the good guys, which is their true agenda. Dead bodies in classrooms, grocery aisles, local streets are merely convenient Useful Idiot fodder for the Left’s America Dis-armament Agenda. The new agenda for humanity requires that no one will have the capacity to fight back. It has been said:… Read more »

KK

The Israeli strategy to protect schools:

http://jpfo.org/articles-2022/israel-schools-armed.htm

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KK

A short letter to my Senators & Congressman: Every major city in our Nation has 15 year olds running around shooting in gang violence and crime. Instead of restricting firearms to law abiding citizens, ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEMS OF INNER CITY GANG VIOLENCE! Every teenage/ underage minor committing a gun crime will be charged as an adult and do mandatory jail time. PROTECT THE SCHOOLS! “GUN FREE ZONES” insure only one outcome, our children are VULNERABLE AT ALL TIMES TO MASS MURDER. You can not mandate vulnerability and then use the outrage of your negligence to protect, as justification to… Read more »

Pa John

The following is a Copy & Paste from the free “Bob Livingston Alerts” email, this one dated 6/1/2022 and written by a Brandon Smith. I do believe at least some of you out there may find it worth a read, particularly the 2nd paragraph below. 🙂 – – – – – – – – – – I want to stress a very important point first and foremost because I don’t think the political left and the average gun-grabber understands the gravity of the situation here and they need to be educated: Liberty advocates will never give up their guns. It’s… Read more »

KK

GREAT ARTICLE!
I re-posted it.
And, to the second paragraph – The NY SAFE Act has a 4% compliance rate.
Think Biden will get a better rate coast to coast?

Chuck

The questions been raised and so far, I’ve heard no sufficient answer from the so called “authorities” that’s believable. How did a part time fast food worker, afford his purchases? These weren’t budget entry level firearms, a magazine or three and a couple of boxes of ammo. This was a higher end AR, 60 mags and 1600 rounds of ammo, plus he bought a 2nd AR one week later (no report on what brand). I don’t buy the “he saved up for it” explanation at all, because the vast majority of kids today, are horrible savers. Without receipts, we can… Read more »

Oldvet

With all of the mass shootings on demand…
Even money says it is the Domestic Terrorist Arm of the Communist Democratic Party …ANTIFAG

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Chuck

Or the Federal Bureau of Insurrectionists.

Oldvet

Chuck…Could be one and the same ? Or controlled and crontrollers…

john

Democrats have lost all arguments since Biden was installed in the title of president. Attacking gun owners was the last thing on their minds when Trump was president. Do you remember any shootings during Trump’s presidency? Funny I remember riots sponsored by the socialist democratic party and the left/ Antifa BLM were on the prowl while criminals were and are being released from jails in democratic controlled states and cities. They were allowed to burn rob pillage private property threaten americans scream in their faces without fear of arrest . Democrats took to the media saying it was alright to… Read more »

CourageousLion

Yes, I remember that there was SUPPOSED to be a shooting in Las Vegas during Trumps term. And of course you are right about letting the rioters run rampant.

KK

Yes, during TRUMP’s Presidency we had THE VEGAS DEEP STATE BLACK OP! So with no democrat political power to stop them, the “Hearing Protection Act”, “Concealed Carry Reciprocity”, and the Supreme’s review of “The Maryland Assault Weapons & Magazine Capacity Restrictions” case, ALL BECAME UNTENABLE. We got more “GUN CONTROL”. (There is not a gun owner in the world, intent on a shooting like Vegas, needing to smuggle a rifle up to that room without drawing suspicion, who would make a spectacle of himself wheeling boatloads of gondolas full of guns through the lobby with hotel workers making special trips… Read more »

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Russn8r

Makes sense

Oldman

Now who is sucking up, Superbaby? LOL

Russn8r

Could you be more a-holish if you tried, Supe? KK’s explanation has been much like my theory all along.

BTW, as to Believe me, WB, none of the 3 Amigos has enough juice in the old scrotum to get anywhere near a real man like you.”

TMI. Do you have the slightest clue how creepy-cringy that sounds? You two need to get a room.

Wild Bill

H8r’s desperate attempt to remain relevant.

Russn8r

McConaughey will never take our guns, not with relevant heroes WB & Oldman doing their civic duty: trolling, chatting, flirting, voting in every election!

Believe me, WB, none of the 3 Amigos has enough juice in the old scrotum to get anywhere near a real man like you.” -Oldman

But why does Oldman think about how much “juice” other men have in their scrotums? And how does he know how much WB’s got?

Wild Bill

Salacia monger.

Russn8r

Oldman wrote that, attacking me & others. I’d prefer he not think about my junk even if you don’t mind him thinking about yours. And you’ve written salacious comments, so cut the hypocrisy.

“I’m sure you are an expert on sucking, bro.” -Wild Bill

In the real world, here’s how it works: You & Oldman keep trolling & attacking me, I will not roll over for it.

You want a truce? Then this time honor it and knock off the attacks. I’ve got better things to do.

Oldman

Are you offering a truce again? What are your terms this time, or not?

Russn8r

I propose we all drop the personal attacks. Policy disagreements-discussion are fine. We can disagree without ad hominem.

Wild Bill

I will go along with OM, but what about the obscene language? Would this include anyone else?

john

This is the olive branch take it and be done with the hate speech.

Forget the past move forward there is a lot at stake and so many question yet to be asked or answered.

All of you are very knowledgeable which benefits others

I have asked that peace wins the day.

Being nice goes the distance no more name calling no more hate

There is enough going around out in the world.

Our pleasures and enjoyment as firearm enthusiasts are under attack.

Please gentleman let it end here.
God Bless

Wild Bill

I think that the whole website would benefit. Working out the details.

john

Yes it would if you can not say something nice do say it. We all thoughts that other might not agree with I fall into the bucket. I am not offended when challenged or asked to correct myself.

That is a honor .

john

“In the eyes of mercy, no one should have hateful thoughts. Feel pity for the man who is even more at fault. The area and size of mercy are limitless.”

Russn8r

I think so. I wonder who’s downvoting this discussion. It’s not me. Interesting.

Wild Bill

I noticed that, too. Apparently, folks do not want a truce.

Russn8r

We don’t care what “they” want, am I right, or am I right?

Wild Bill

A peace treaty must be comprehensive or it will not last. I can see by the votes that there are already persons unknown that are not in favor.
Lets wait for some to weigh in.

Autsin Miller III

Yes indeed, let us have peace! I ALWAYS learn more from those who have a perspective different than mine. Confirmation bias is a difficult thing to over come and it is a natural thing to do. Isn’t the reason for these discussion boards to learn from one another? You don’t need to be told what you already know right? Vigorous but respectful discussion.

Wild Bill

I agree. But please note the number of down votes that you have gathered … almost immediately. There are those that are against a peace treaty.

Autsin Miller III

I saw that. Curious. I wonder if there really are folk who thrive on the chaos or if this is evidence of BOTS designed to keep things stirred up? Makes me wonder.

Wild Bill

Good question. I would prefer to think that is is bots rather than our fellow man.

john

This can be accomplished it will be accomplished
Death Or Glory
John

How to behave as warriors is less immediate of concern than actual battlefield skills.

In particular, both parties in any conflict between samurai were to be punished equally; in this context, Yamamoto urged that if warriors were forced to break the Shogun’s law they might as well fight to the death.

Russn8r

I don’t think “they” will own up to the downvotes, and we can’t make them. I think it’s simple enough. No personal attacks, snark, obscenity. My cease fire is unilateral as of now; applies to me, you & Oldman, since that’s where the overt hostilities are as they affect me.

If you don’t reciprocate, so be it. If someone else attacks me, it’s between me & them, and I will defend myself. If someone piles on with them, I’ll defend myself.

We can’t work out a perfect treaty. We just need to try. If we’re sincere it’ll work.

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Wild Bill

I understand the time constraint. You, me, Oldman, and Tex. What about jsnm …. ?

john

 “Knowledge becomes really such only when it is assimilated in the mind of the learner and shows in his character.”

Russn8r

Got me. I speak for no one but myself. My reaction function is general. Someone attacks me personally, I reserve the right to defend myself.

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Wild Bill

Maybe it would be better to agree to make no comment at all on each other’s written work, so that there would be no accidents or misunderstandings.
As to the down votes, I can neither start them nor stop them. There never was a posse.

Russn8r

I won’t self-censor something I disagree with (or agree with for that matter), but I’ll keep it polite if you do. And I’ll try to give you the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes I write things that come off wrong when I didn’t mean them to. I don’t think we need to tiptoe, just sincerely try.

IMO, there’s obviously a posse. Just clearly not yours!

Peace out.

Oldman

I have neither upvoted nor downvoted anything today. Obviously, there are at least 4 folks registered on the site that don’t want the truce. I don’t get it but, but John and WB do, so let’s give it a shot. It can’t hurt, and maybe we will be able to sort out whom actually enjoys this nonsense.

Russn8r

I believe you. Someone’s having “fun” at our expense.

Oldman

And I think those people can only have that fun if we let them. We all need to pay no attention to up or down votes and refrain from calling ANYONE out for it. They will, at some point, get bored with no escalation of our own involvement. Peace, Brother.

Russn8r

Roger that! Peace out!

Wild Bill

I’m good with that! I’m going to refer to this agreement, if need be, as the June 7th Accord.

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JSNMGC

“I understand the time constraint. You, me, Oldman, and Tex. What about jsnm …. ?”

If by jsnm you meant me, and if you are asking something of me, what is it? If you are offering something, what is it? You mentioned the agreement must be comprehensive. The agreement needs to be specific.  

Wild Bill

Some of us have an agreement with Russn8r. I wanted to know if it included you.

JSNMGC

What is obscene language? Is this obscene language:

  • FJB ~ Wild Bill
  • raging ah ~ Wild Bill
  • blow me ~ john

What are insults/personal attacks? Does that include making untrue and weird assertions about someone instead of discussing the issue at hand? Does it include name-calling?

Does snark include the comment you made this morning when I asked you a question?

Would this agreement be between you, Oldman, Russn8r, and me? As of now, it sounds like it does not include Tackleberry and Will (and all of his numerous other accounts).

Wild Bill

They are in if they want to be.

Oldman

I believe the questions from JsnMGC, refer to his wanting to have a greater stake in the negotiations and wants to achieve greater control over everything involved. I must assume at this time he has no interest in joining with the parties to the June 7 Accord. He is still getting the same amount of downvotes as the rest of us, now at this time, ……so what? Who cares? I would like to give all of us comrades in arms a better shot in protecting our inalienable rights against the loss of our rights as guaranteed to us in the… Read more »

JSNMGC

“I believe the questions from JsnMGC, refer to his wanting to have a greater stake in the negotiations and wants to achieve greater control over everything involved.” ~ Oldman No, I wanted to know what he is asking of me, and I’d like to know what changes he is planning on making.  For example, there were five or six people insulting other posters in the comments to this article (I wasn’t one of them): https://www.ammoland.com/2022/06/nra-statement-in-response-to-bidens-address/#axzz7VYMfh3Ml One of the comments Wild Bill posted was: “Ok, but lets be fair. He has been insulted in the most vile and discussing [sic] ways.… Read more »

Wild Bill

We are all trying to come up to, or exceed, your level of courtesy. Are you in or out?

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JSNMGC

Yes, it would be great if everyone was more courteous.

I’m in, as long as the agreement includes:

  • Not attempting to impose double standards;
  • Not making false assertions about other posters; and
  • Not engaging in name-calling.
Wild Bill

You are adding complications. That will none of the other participants included. The first is too vague. Regarding the second, any assertion is a guess because we do not know each other. Thus no assertions could be made in order to comply.
I thought that no name calling was already in there.

Perhaps the participants will have to think about your requirements before including you.

JSNMGC

I’m not adding complications, I’m clarifying the terms for the very reason your response suggests I should.  Regarding the first item being too vague, that’s why I gave you examples. You are disturbed by Russn8r’s language (and try to include me in your condemnation when I don’t do that) and you don’t comment on others language. I attempted to make the agreement less vague by providing you specific examples of the double standards you have used regarding “obscene” language, snark, and uncivil comments.   Your assertions (“guesses” as you call them) were just a form of uncivil discourse. I won’t enter into an… Read more »

Wild Bill

Seems like he is trying to break it up before it gets started.

JSNMGC

Attempting to assign false motive is not a good way to start.

I was clarifying the terms.

Wild Bill

Roger that. out.

john

You are right sir now you can make the difference it is your choice
Remember to laugh it will keep you alive longer.

john

“It may seem difficult at first but everything is difficult at first.

john

“The path that leads to truth is littered with the bodies of the ignorant.”

john

This is a example of how someone calls for peace and the negative look to disrupt that peace

. “Today is victory over yourself of yesterday; tomorrow is your victory over lesser men.”

Oldman

I don’t think he has ever been relevant, so how could he remain that way? But I get your drift….He is only relevant in his own little mind.

Russn8r

“None of the 3 Amigos has enough juice in the old scrotum to get anywhere near a real man like you.”
-Oldman, flirting with WB

john

 “Yesterday is but a dream, tomorrow is but a vision. But today well lived makes every yesterday a dream of happiness, and every tomorrow a vision of hope. Look well, therefore, to this day.

 “If there isn’t discipline, how can there be a true realization of an ideal?”

john

Please everyone knows better. There is enough incoming form those that oppose our community.

  • “Engage in combat fully determined to die and you will be alive; wish to survive in the battle and you will surely meet death.”
  • “Loyalty and devotion lead to bravery. Bravery leads to the spirit of self-sacrifice. The spirit of self-sacrifice creates trust in the power of love
musicman44mag

xxx

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musicman44mag

There was a publication on Ammoland regarding this shooting with video footage. There were more than one shooter and they were firing on the ground, Before it happened there was a lady in front of the stage telling people they were all going to die. There is allot more. Hope you can find it. Definite government cover up and a government operation or supported by our government. Part of the operation was done through an Australian citizen. Someone flew the helicopters that shot down into the crowd.

Oldvet

John…Yes I remember and if not mistaken they were blm and antifags

KK

Yeah – I noticed – All of a sudden everyone is committing mass shootings with “assault rifles” – guess this is the BIG PUSH – All their MK Ultra sleeper operatives are being activated – they gotta try to do it before all their sorry asses are voted out in November.
(I mean if they can’t rig the elections again with their truckloads of unverifiable “mail-in ballots”)
. . . and now even FOX NEWS is calling inner city minority gang shootings MASS SHOOTINGS!

TNJEWBOY

If we hand in our guns to the government either piecemeal or all at once what will protect us from the government?

CourageousLion

Check out http://jpfo.org/

musicman44mag

The mass shootings are lies. First off, the left changed the definition of mass shooting to be four or more people including the shooter. They did that because mass shooting sounds so much worse than a few people shot. The Anti gun media always project shootings that they can put a racist spin on. . According to their terminology there were mass shootings in 13 different states this weekend alone. They don’t mention that these crimes are gang members that are in the big cities killing one another. I really don’t care. If the gang bangers want to shoot each… Read more »

Wild Bill

Apparently, that is just fine with the Chicago mayor’s office, too. So if it is fine with the Chicago democrat political machine, then who am I to …

john

Correct the media only reports on what will drive their agenda at the request of the democrats. Cnn claims 246 mass shootings this year not looking so good for the Biden administration and the democrats.

Hot Tuna – Death don’t have no mercy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO-xvAec6sM

musicman44mag

Wow, thanks for the bring back of old memories. I haven’t heard the words Hot Tuna for years. Remember the title, you can tuna piano but you can’t tuna fish? Always loved that one but only liked 2 of REO Speedwagon Songs. Ridin the storm out and Keep on loving you. They did have great vocals but no lead guitar.

Thanks, hadn’t heard that one for years.

Russn8r

The acoustic album was excellent.

john

Glad you guys enjoyed that ,

john

Musicman 44 Mag

Here’s one for you.
From Long hard Ride

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwSGhTyeKeA

musicman44mag

Yes a good song from a very good band back when Sothern Rock Ruled in my books. I can’t tell you how many rednecks loved Amy that were not into rock at all.

john

Had to through in the tune !!!!!

musicman44mag

I like that. I used to be in a band where we would try and talk to one another in song titles or words and verses from songs. It was fun when on the road.

john

Music is to the soul what color is to the eyes ,

“Emmerson”

Darkman

Today 6/6/22, In remembrance of the 10’s of thousands of brave men who sacrificed so much and to the 1000’s who gave all. I offer my thanks and respect on the anniversary of the D Day Landings at Normandy. Because of the Sacrifices of those Brave Men, “We the People” continue to reap the rewards of their sacrifices and the Freedom and Liberties they fought and died to preserve. They truly were the ‘Greatest Generation’ and as such deserve that “We the People” be willing to put forth the sacrifices necessary to Honor, the sacrifices they made in Handing Down… Read more »

Tionico

My Uncle was a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne. He jumped at Normandy, out of one of the towed glider transports. He got tangled up in a tree, and shot. He managed to survive, and I knew him well growing up. Myst have been horrible, that war, because when I was a young adult Iasked him to tell me some things about the war. His reaponse? “there are some things a man just does not want to talk about”. The ONLY time in our long and strong relationship he refused to respond to any question I could throw him. I… Read more »

WeWereWarned

The private sector is what keeps our Liberty intact, not just following orders socialists like you think. I’m from the West, which means my ancestors killed the socialist soldiers who tried to harm them with diversity, unlike the South. They were only the greatest generation if you call urinating on the Constitution as rain. They destroyed our Liberty by expanding the government and then they used religion to force the third world on us. You must not have any integrity or be a government employee, if you can’t speak the truth about how no living or dead soldier from the… Read more »

Wild Bill

Well, you certainly have a very different interpretation of things.

john

The simple fact of the matter is there are political aspiration motivated by a belief to achieve total control over the population would leave one ruling party of government. We see that in other countries the latest is Canada to fall to a one ruling socialist dictatorship. The democrats have long since wanted to remove “God” from the vocabulary in schools even in the way we celebrate holidays are being assaulted as is the history of our country. Children are the future of our country as is with all societies what we are watching is the dangerous manipulation of children… Read more »

American Cynic

Considering all of the fine options there are to harden targets, and to allow for more defensive measures by arming and traning more people, these options are constantly rejected by anti-2nd Amedment radicals, one has to wonder what their motives really are. How far are these radicals willing to go to achieve their goal? What are anti-2nd Amendment radicals willing to do to further the cause of disarming American citizens? Those American citizens, who do not have firearms for offensive criminal reasons, but for defensive purposes against criminals, tyrants, and terrorist? I find all of these shootings, approaching this next… Read more »

Roland T. Gunner

I, and many others, have been hypothesising for years about a false flag program, that consistently ramps up whenever there is another big push to disarm Americans. But you want to see your neighbors whispering in a corner while watching you and folding you a tin foil hat?

rgshel

The folks you are talking about is the New World Order in Davos Switzerland where the wealthy folks hang out wanting to control the world who are Biden’s buddies and lets not forget the greenies are involved also…

Boris Badenov

If you had the misfortune of listening to some of them speak….it was PURE Democrat talking points and frankly being ultra-rich doesn’t equate to being intelligent. Currently Elon Musk seems to be on the list that isn’t a rich idiot.

Gunner

When I’m asked the question “is your right to own a gun more important than the life of a child”? My reply is: The question you ask, is a trap, it can’t simply be answered yes or no because it would deny one of us something extremely important to us. Children lives are one of the most important things in life to them and their families. My right to own guns is also one of the most important things in life to me and my family. Without my guns, I would have no means to protect my family or yours… Read more »

willyd

Yes, your right the Gun Free Zones should go away. The teachers shouldd have the option to get the training and should have that choice, also if the school wants to have someone as anon-staffer with the proper training that should be an option also.With what is happening right now in this enviornment, this could be be activated soon, these cases are taking far to many of our most pressuse treasures from us, our children!!!!!

Oldvet

Lindsey Graham is supposedly coming out with a plan to use Veterans as armed guards in the school system . We shall see .

nrringlee

It is a false equivalency logical fallacy. There is no logical connection between the law abiding and responsible gun owner and a criminal who shoots children. The response is this: when confronted with a situation where a criminal is shooting a child would you prefer to have your Every Day Carry firearm loaded and ready for action or would you prefer to take on an active shooter with a nerf bat? Gunner’s point is critical: children are of the age of innocence and need to be defended by those who are capable of defending them. That is true on the… Read more »

Wild Bill

Yes, the criminal that does the act should go away, not our civil Right.

Chuck

I agree. I live across the street from a school, my kids are grown and moved away from home, but I’d have no hesitation responding and putting myself between any child and an attacker. As a Paramedic for many years, saving the innocent is the highest priority.

Oldvet

nrringlee…That includes what they are being taught in those schools !

Arny

Simple answer is YES !

rgshel

Also, as a country most Americans don’t believe that God is in charge and we as a people have kicked Him out of the Supreme Court, schools across the country, our society, and believe He has allowed evil to prevail and rule some of the ill-mined individuals who conduct the killings of our peoples

Wild Bill

I can not agree that most Americans don’t believe that God is in charge. I further can not agree that we as a people have kicked God out of anywhere.

It was Hugo Black in 1947 that perpetrated a huge legal fraud on the American people with his seperation of church and state concept. Please see Everson v. Board of Education of Ewing Township

The rest of the S. Ct. followed, then the legislative branch; then the executive branch and bureaucracies.

nrringlee

Friend, The Barna Surveys of Opinion in the Church will tell you a different story. The majority of Christians do not believe in the Pentecost, do not believe that the Holy Spirit is ever present on earth to counter the Devil. Most self professed Christians do not believe Satan exists. Most are cultural relativists, theologically confused and not rooted in The Word. It is no wonder children are so confused. The state of the church in America is a sad story. Very sad.

Wild Bill

Uff da.

willyd

As humans if you don’t believe in a higher authority, look at it as the human race has found all kinds of ways to kill each other off, if note kept in by a higher authority we would have distroyed this world a long time ago, so I believe this in my own way!!!!

swmft

if you read all the religious texts, man may have nearly destroyed the world more than once already, Navajo say we are on the fourth world what was lost when the great library was destroyed may have given us direction to make a more stable society

WeWereWarned

All men are created equal was said to protect our Liberty from folks like you, who would use religion to control our Liberty. You are like the Church of England followers the Founders swacked to become Americans.
‘That phrase was said so the lower iq folks like yourself, understood that our rulers were not ordained form God, and disobeying them was not a sin, like the Church of England did for control.

If you have to believe in a Jewish zombie, to not harm another person, then you are who we moral men carry guns for.

Autsin Miller III

“If you have to believe in a Jewish zombie, to not harm another person, then you are who we moral men carry guns for.” Sir,.I am a follower of Jesus the Christ and you have no need to fear my belief in him or anyone I know that does. I won’t question your morality, please don’t mine. I have been a full time Pastor for more years than many here have been alive and I can tell you that whether you believe in God or not, there is a suspiciously similar decline in the Church and in common decency, morality… Read more »

rgshel

Of course, it didn’t help society when Clinton defunded and close the crazy hospitals across the U.S. in the 90’s and drugged up the patients to be released into our society and changed how future patients would not be allowed back for help…we as a people are not mind readers and cannot determine those who will be the lone-wolf shooters who will committee the nasty deeds of death.

Arny

In all fairness. Societies of the 50,60s started that ball rolling. And not without just cause sometimes. With the coming of Pharmaceuticals, cure all pill testimony from a few doctors. It is definitely a subject that needs to be talked upon. But to think Govt has the answer is naive at best. The Feds gave the authority back to the States to run the programs. But the States didn’t want the financial burden that went with it. Is what I have taken from reading on the subject. And in all fairness. How do you know who’s crazy enough to kill… Read more »

Watch um

We reap what we sow, we have sown ungodly lifestyles and now the crops are full.
It started in the JFK election and when Lyndon Johnson took over with Tip O’Neal and they passed several laws that started to tear down the fabric that this nation was founded on and now we are reaping what was sown.

JSNMGC

It started long before then.

Watch um

Matthew 12:25-26,28 ESV
Knowing their thoughts, he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand. [26] And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand? [28] But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

nrringlee

Word! Only the willfully blind will not see the truth in The Word as it unfolds in front of us. History has already been written. Whether we choose to see it or not is entirely a matter of belief. If you choose to believe God’s Word you see it unfolding. If you choose anything else you live under strong delusion and will be fooled by the force of evil, Satan.

nrringlee

It started in the 1880’s with the advent of the Progressive Movement. The progressives, the positivists, the Marxists and other brands of socialists started their satanic work at that point. The brand of clowns currently dominating our political and cultural elites are best branded New Left Progressives. They are legion.

john

Johnson was a huge mistake that proceeded even a bigger mistake Kennedy

john

Politicos in the Dems party want ‘Gun Control David Saylor 2019 Ask them? Pelosi said “If I could have gotten the votes I would have banned all guns. I would have taken every one of them away” (with a notable exception for those that politicians like her and certain “celebrities” would be allowed to have for “national security and because they are people who others may want to harm”. Obama said “as a civilized society we should not have guns in the hands of normal citizens. People may resist our transforming of America”. Feinstein said “first we will get more… Read more »

swmft

time for those countries to deport the Muslims back to their own sh thole countries and see how that works the un is such a crook of

john

Muslims are a large % of those fleeing the Ukraine who were refugees from Syria and Libya another democratic crisis that was Obama and Hillary’s doing to destabilize europe

Wild Bill

I did not know that.

Rodoeo

They’ve been interfering with our rights to self preservation for years. Stagnant salaries, soaring debt and inflation, hopelessness for ever owning anything. Those are major factors of these people lashing out with firearms.

john

It continues to get worse anytime democrats are in total control

CourageousLion

This is something I didn’t know about until today. I knew that the pharma drug connection existed, but I didn’t know that John Noveske was murdered most likely because he posted a connection between PRESCRIPTION DRUGS and shooters. Back in 2013 he posted on his Facebook page a list of 45 shootings and the drugs the shooters were all on.  February 13, 2013 List of 45 Mass Murders and Pharma Drugs they were on February 13, 2013. One month ago, and only three weeks after the tragic shooting at Sandy Hook, two well-known 2nd Amendment activists were found mysteriously murdered… Read more »

swmft

the list of un desirable side effects is longer than the possible positive effects

musicman44mag

Thank you for your time and sharing this information with us. I had no idea that these drugs were involved in so many shootings. I had a friend who’s son was super hyperactive. He was smart as a whip. The school suggested that he be put on Ritalin. After he was on it he became very mellow, didn’t care about anything, went from being an A student to barely attending school and now is sucking on the governments teat by having a girlfriend he keeps getting pregnant to make more welfare money, food stamps and assistance. He has never been… Read more »

Boris Badenov

One test should be the levels of THC in the blood stream. The higher concentrations do exactly the opposite of mellowing. I’ve seen accounts from people stating that they literally went homicidal. Couple that with the drugs and being easily suggestible to violence and off we go.

Trussman

This list could go on & on & on, and it’s not just kids. In 1989 Joseph Wesbecker killed 8 and wounded 11 or 12 in Louisville, KY in a workplace shooting at Standard Gravure. He was on Prozak (sp). The victims families and wounded survivors successfully sued the maker of the drug. The people on the list above all had two things in common, 1) they all killed, and 2) they were all on “mental health” (sarcasm) prescription drugs. However, they did not all use firearms, mostly yes, but not all. Onto another topic that has me concerned, is… Read more »

Wild Bill

Interesting comments. Welcome to the site.

Lesko Brandon

Would anyone say that people have gotten less crazy than in 1950? I’d say not, yet we have turned our back on mental health compared to what was done 75 years ago. The US population has doubled since then and the beds available for the mentally ill has gone down by 500,000 nationwide. There is some percentage of people in the world that are just not sane. Only a Democrat political or fanatic could look at someone who would walk into a school and starts shooting and not see them as insane. More likely is even to ignore the person… Read more »

Captn John

If not crazy how would you describe the mental position of people like Biden, Pelosi, Waters, and others?

Wild Bill

Greedy, narcissistic, and corrupt.

CourageousLion

Psychopathic control freak.

swmft

insane

hippybiker

The problem is, that most decent Americas don’t understand that these miscreants don’t think in the short term. They plan years and years ahead! If “We the People”:want to beat them, then we need to play the “Long Game” just like they do!

swmft

add term limits to constitution ,and a clause where any congress person proposing a bill that violates bill of rights looses their seat done goodby

swmft

they talk about money for homelessness vote for it then spend the money hiding homelessness not mental health or low cost housing, low cost housing has become another scam use Government money to build homes in the 300,000 range sell all to investors for over 400,000 each the government land ???on a 99 year lease

Wass

By failing, years ago, to stand up against the libelous smears from media and organized anti-gunners, that the NRA and other gun-rights organizations “have blood on their hands”, we are in a weaker position, rhetorically and media wise, today. We needed to scream: “WE ARE LAW-ABIDING, INNOCENT AMERICANS-NOT CRIMINALS!”. It may not be too late. But whatever, never apologize for gun rights or let them nitpick on guns and ammo; they really want to take it all away.

Roland T. Gunner
MICHAEL J

The mentality of those who would disarm the law-abiding instead of accepting evil exists is that we must have that right to be vigilant. This includes those who would violate their Constitutional vows by selling out their constituents to limit those rights.

swmft

you mean the ones that need to be lined up against the wall

Captn John

It would need to be a very long wall.

Boris Badenov

We must save the planet, use natural ropes.

Russn8r

Samey Same. Between shootings when the public’s not panicking, our pontificators do zip to ban ‘Gun Free’ Zones when we had the power. Just ‘ConCarry’ infested with GFZs. When that yields another massacre, nance around, talk compromise, do something, red flag, commitment, prior restraint, Fix NICS, more SROs = grow the gvt-union police model that just failed us: Anything but state preemption to arm-train teachers-staff & ban ‘private’ GFZs open to the public as we should’ve done all along: A ‘right’ to ban self-defense in cafés is no more kosher than a right to serve rancid food & rat crap.

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Russn8r

And our pontificators virtually never take responsibility for providing intelligently targeted ACTION items, links & contact info to urge & facilitate chatroom commandos to get off their asses and do something effective to IMPLEMENT the policy pontification. e.g. Links to volunteer &/or donate in a tight race. In rare cases you might see, “contact your reps” – idiotic advice if your “rep” is a committed gun grabber in a secure seat. Yet there’s no reason not to lobby reps in other districts & states, since they know you’re a potential donor-volunteer for or against them.

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GmanNM

I agree that we should lobby reps in other districts. I have tried to do this many times. What I discovered is that you cannot get through the firewall that congress has set up to block people who do not reside in their district and prevent them from sending emails. Same with phone calls. I’m not sure what happens to snail-mail letters, I never get any response nor do I get a return to sender. So, please let us in on your successful method of sending correspondence to representatives from other districts. I would love to know how you do… Read more »

Russn8r

War is deception. We’ve already lost if we can’t see it’s a WAR to end the USA, or too prissy to tell white lies in wartime.

Forget webmail. With portable cell#s they don’t know where you live. I’m rarely blown off for res. Get local office ph #s & zips. If asked I may give local zips or tell the truth: I’m a non-resident donor-activist; their vote will determine how I donate in their next run.

Either way reps know – especially if you lie – you’re motivated to work for or against them.

Non-res US mail is read too

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GmanNM

I wasn’t sure about the US Mail for different districts – like I said never hear anything back from those letters. I do know getting through on the phone is a challenge. I have had no success from email to other district reps. I keep trying though. That’s the very least thing I can do and I will try some of your suggestions. Thanks.

Roverray

This is true, my district is monopolized democratic nightmare, l can’t email other representatives either because of my zip code or area code.

john

Harold article suggest that we the people need to find ways to address the mentally ill and those with criminal intent. The elected in democratic run cities have should us that criminals are now on a revolving door judicial system of that party’s intent. There are no laws that will stop a person hell bent of evil. The affordable care act or obama care took the care of the mentally ill putting it into the insurance companies failed policies making it mostly unaffordable for those needing it the most. Today Teladoc will degrade care to the most impersonal healthcare you… Read more »

Wild Bill

Ok, I see what you are saying, but one caution: the mentally ill can not form Mens Rea (the guilty mind) necessary for criminal conviction. That is why they go to mental institutions for the criminally insane rather than prison.
A classic example is that kid that shot Reagan.

john

I understand The mentally ill who commit heinous crimes are judged by the courts after the fact. Stopping those with evil intent from committing a crime has become a political talking point that general healthcare can not overcome. That is my point on the Affordable care act insurance companies wrote what and what not they were willing to cover exonerating them from legal liability with the mentally ill. There for it falls to the courts not the insurance companies the courts are liberal these days in this woke agenda. The democrats created that legasation to openly indirectly to address other… Read more »

john

Criminally insane defence was created by lawyers to defend those that commit crimes of passion. This legal defense is commonly used to defend individuals that have committed crimes of passion. The defense was first successfully used by U.S. Congressman Daniel Sickles of New York in 1859 after he had killed his wife’s lover, Philip Barton Key. Who came up with the insanity defense? The insanity defense as a legal concept was born in England, in 1843. A man named Daniel M’Naghten attempted to assassinate the British Prime Minister who he believed was conspiring against him. Due to his psychosis, the court acquitted him and… Read more »

Jaque

We freedoom loving American Patriots are losing our freedom and our Homeland America to Communism. We are losing because we lack the will to sacrifice our good life. We are lazy, fat, stupid, and many are brainwashed. We have allowed multinational corporations and international organizations like Blackrock and the UN to buy and control the government that was created by, of and for the people. Our government. We have stood by as elections are stolen, laws that violate the Constition usurp our rights, and as our brothers rot in KGB jails for attending a non violent rally to protest the… Read more »

john

Your comments are true to what the state of our republic as come to in the present day. The larger question who will arise to lead this country back to the strongest nation on the planet where freedom is paramount and the constitution is the law of the land.
The democrats have and continue to use a small % of Americans to remove our freedoms. The word God comes to mind most of all.

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Captn John

It can only be done at this point through Devine intervention or armed intervention

swmft

it is getting to the put up or shut up point

Arny

And THEFT by Taxation.

Rowboat

What is tolerated will continue.