Editors Note: ATF leakers have come forward and provided AmmoLand News information that ATF agents used controlled buys to acquire the seller’s information then pressured sellers to turn over their customer information.
WASHINGTON, D.C. -(Ammoland.com)- The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) crackdown on Force Reset Triggers is continuing, and now AmmoLand News has been able to get additional information from sources inside the Bureau.
While some of the ATF’s visits can be seen as aggressive, such as an Indiana man who purportedly felt he needed to turn over his entire AR15, other visits involve far more sympathetic ATF agents. The special agents who act sympathetic do not seem like they want to be at the target’s house and sometimes will go as far as saying that they don’t “agree” with the order. Some of these Special Agents might be using remorse as a technique to build a report with the target, but in some cases, it is genuine remorse. One of these agents spoke to AmmoLand News on a condition of anonymity, giving the gun community an insight into the ATF’s actions.
The order to take the triggers came from ATF headquarters to field offices nationwide. The field offices were supplied with a list of forced reset triggers purchasers. The only brand and make of triggers that AmmoLand’s source has seen listed is the Rare Breed FRT-15. Other forced reset trigger brands could be listed, but our source’s list that ATF HQ provided just had Rare Breed Triggers. There is a possibility that this disparity is due to the market share held by the Rare Breed FRT-15. AmmoLand News has not been able to track anyone down with any other triggers visited by the ATF, except for a man arrested on multiple machine gun charges who also had a Tommy Trigger.
All triggers listed for confiscation were purchased through GunBroker auctions. These purchases were from multiple sellers on the website. The source did not know how the ATF headquarters acquired all the purchaser’s information. The ATF could have tracked numerous sellers and got the customers’ information from them. At least some of the information could have been obtained by using controlled buys from the sellers targeted on GunBroker. Then the ATF could have pressured the sellers to turn over the information. AmmoLand News reached out to GunBroker for the previous article but still hasn’t gotten a response.
Although some triggers confiscated were purchased from Rare Breed, the ATF agents seemed to have less information on those purchases. The agents did not provide dates, order numbers, or other identifiable information about the purchases from the Rare Breed website. The agent could have been fishing for information or used something the purchaser said to guess that the owner purchased a trigger directly from Rare Breed. With the GunBroker purchases, the agents had the seller’s names, transaction dates, and other identifiable information.
The Special Agents do not have discretion whether to contact the buyer or not. The order from ATF HQ demanded the field offices act. The ATF Special Agents are instructed to persuade the owner to turn over the triggers. While some agents are honest with gun owners and even give them a couple of days to decide what to do with the triggers, others have lied to the target. Law enforcement officers are not under any obligation, to be honest.
One threat that has been used is the responding ATF agent threatening to get a warrant. According to our source, as of now, that is an empty threat. Some agents have also threatened to file charges if the triggers are not turned over. As of now, that seems like a scare tactic. ATF HQ did not list the next steps if the gun owner doesn’t turn over the triggers other than noting the case. That doesn’t mean a search warrant will not be executed at a future time or charges will not be filed down the road. But the ATF will not execute a search warrant or arrest the owner as quickly as some ATF agents imply.
The best bet for owners of Rare Breed triggers is to exercise their right to remain silent and contact an attorney.
About John Crump
John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.
If antifa clowns and leftards have taught us nothing, it’s that politicians are a mile wide and 1 cm deep. The are shiftless cowards, narcissists that only care for themselves and will bend like reeds, with the political winds… If you support the 2A and want change, here is the highest and best use of your actions. #1 Get out and vote in the mid terms!!! We need to replace as many progressive TRD’s as is possible in school board, township, county, cities, and states. Convince (at least) one more like minded conservative to see to it that he or… Read more »
I’m with you, brother. Get involved and do it now, we control our destiny, now more than ever. Why not work our neighborhoods where the useful idiots live and convince them to be our useful idiots, except once they learn the truth, they’re no longer idiots, just useful.
Or even just send a contribution, even.
NEVER send a (money) contribution to any organization that SAYS they represent a party — these organizations(parties) WILL DECIDE who will get the funds — even if the individual is a member of ANOTHER party!
ONLY — send (money) contributions DIRECTLY to the governmental Employee you want to support!
I agree with sending MULTIPLE People’s Reps. at one time. HOWEVER, I do not want the CABAL sELECTED government EMPLOYEES to create another J6 SITUATION!!!
Rapport, not report editor.
If I had an FRT, which I don’t, I’d remove it and hide that little bugger really good. The way things are going in this country, it might be needed and the ATF can go fornicate itself.
I am sure you have a family member buried in a cemetery close by, get my drift?
That is a terrific idea. I wish that I had come up with that. So many good ideas on this site!
The Wars on Drugs, Crime and Terror (everything) have rendered federal law enforcement agencies of all three-lettered flavors rogue agencies. The corruption over the years is out of control and has led to completely corrupt agencies under completely corrupt management. There may be a few good apples left but they are very few and in the next 2 years the Harris/Biden regime will root them out and discard the in favor of compliant Brownshirts. This is why you never, ever talk with federal law enforcement. Your first and only answer to their queries is “Get A Warrant.” We have had… Read more »
They will get one that is a total violation of the 4th amendment. We are being pushed into a civil war.
The number of bought-and-paid-for judges these days is astronomical. Sorry, but I do not have confidence that a search warrant issued is truly valid. Then you have cops giving false info to judges, whether good or bad judges, and killing citizens when raiding their homes. Two examples that come to mind are the couple whose home was raided and they were murdered in Texas by a drug task force whose head falsified info on the warrant, and the young lady in Kentucky who was likewise murdered in her home by narcotics investigators who did a no-knock raid on her home… Read more »
“The special agents who act sympathetic do not seem like they want to be at the target’s house and sometimes will go as far as saying that they don’t “agree” with the order. Some of these Special Agents might be using remorse as a technique to build a report with the target, but in some cases, it is genuine remorse.” I guess “feeling bad” isn’t enough to stop them from violating our rights and their oath. People that refuse to see that their local government enforcers will do this, too, are really naive. “The Special Agents do not have discretion… Read more »
The ones who visited me yesterday were polite and personable, did not even ask to be let into my house.
“Law enforcement officers are not under any obligation, to be honest.” In other words — Police, FBI, DOJ employees ARE ALLOWED TO LIE! This sentence could come directly out of SCOTUS! ALSO, Police have NO DUTY to PROTECT INDIVIDUAL American Citizens — THIS ALSO comes directly from SCOTUS!
Just tell ’em it was lost in a boating accident in the Atlantic………
Country Boy,them boating accidents are so much more common than many people think. I know several people who’ve had horrific boating accidents but there was always a boat nearby to get them back to shore safely.
Not in the Atlantic ocean………….
Country Boy, well in the Pacific Ocean they really were lucky to survive. But their boats and firearms they were transporting went to the bottom of the drink.
Well in the Pacific and Gulf they got lucky but lost their boats and “very expensive cargo” they were moving up the coast. w&n!!!
I got the visit from a pair of BATFE special agents yesterday. I went to the door with my Big Daddy WOT FRT in my hand because I assumed thats why they were there. But nope. They had a document claiming I might be in violation of GCA ’68 due to my purchase about 6 months ago of 3 imported solvent traps from a specified seller on Gunbroker. Problem is, I have never purchased a solvent trap, so I could not surrender them. I was polite but firm that I did not purchase the solvent traps, and when they left,… Read more »
Uh, thanks John, but I don’t want to buy any. I want to determine how and why ATF decided I already bought some.
The article reads as if a sixth grader penned it.
Really. Enlighten us.