Michigan: Another ‘Gun Violence Commission’ Without Any Gun Experts

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Ten months after the tragic school shooting at Oxford High School in Michigan, Oakland County Prosecutor Karen McDonald has created a “commission” to investigate gun violence, but it doesn’t appear there are any gun experts in the group. Michigan Gun Flag iStock-884193816

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Oakland County, MI Prosecutor Karen McDonald has announced the formation of a “commission of local and national experts to investigate and recommend solutions to address gun violence in the county,” which—like so many other panels looking at “gun violence”—does not appear to have a single firearms authority on board.

According to the Detroit News, McDonald’s new commission is comprised of “first responders, health experts, local elected officials, faith leaders, individuals who have been impacted by gun violence and more…” There is also the mother of a student killed at Sandy Hook Elementary and the father of a man murdered at the Aurora, Colorado theater mass shooting.

As reported by WXYZ News, McDonald’s commission will “develop an evidence-based curriculum that will help prevent gun violence and mass shootings in Michigan.” However, Detroit News noted there is no timeline for this commission to issue a report.

NBC said the commission will focus on three specifics:

  • Scrutinize the threat assessment model in Oakland County.
  • Investigate and provide recommendations on both hard and soft components of preventing gun violence.
  • Work to develop a model for training kids and adults to identify individuals in crisis and ways to take meaningful action to prevent violence from occurring.

So, while Democrat McDonald tells reporters, “I think gun access is a critical issue, but it isn’t the only issue,” she was apparently not asked about nor did she volunteer any reason for this commission to lack a representative from the Michigan Rifle & Pistol Association, a gun shop owner or even a certified firearms instructor; people who know a bit about firearms and genuine gun safety.

The Detroit News did note for the record McDonald lamented “the national dialogue surrounding gun violence hasn’t been conducive to solving the problem.”

Could it be because this “national dialogue” has been, perhaps by design, absent the voices of firearms owners, local retailers, and even gun manufacturers?

Last year, the Biden White House made headlines by hosting “a virtual discussion with leaders of gun violence prevention advocacy groups” including Everytown for Gun Safety, Moms Demand Action, Giffords, and Brady. Has anyone from the Biden administration gathered representatives from the National Rifle Association, Gun Owners of America or the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms for a discussion about “gun violence prevention?”

Recall in the early 1990s, it was gun owners and gun rights groups who championed “Three Strikes” and “Hard Time for Armed Crime” citizen initiatives in Washington State; ideas that quickly gained popularity and spread nationwide. Washington voters passed “Three Strikes” in 1993 and California passed a similar measure the following year. Liberals and anti-gunners opposed both measures.

Of course, responding to the spike in violent crime involves different dynamics than preventing or stopping mass shootings at schools, grocery stores or shopping malls.

A school resource officer was on-site at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., and responding officers at Uvalde’s Robb Elementary waited more than an hour to move in.

When a gunman opened fire at a Greenwood, Indiana shopping mall, an armed private citizen—Elisjsha Dicken—drew his legally-carried pistol and shot the killer dead.

When 37-year-old Dennis Butler opened fire on dozens of people at a party in Charleston, W.Va., a legally-armed female bystander killed him.

Perhaps individuals who have successfully intervened in mass shooting incidents belong on McDonald-style commissions. They might offer a unique perspective.

There is no indication McDonald has created her commission just to produce a headline. She seems to have good intentions, but that is the stuff of the pavement leading to Hell, according to a proverb.

As noted above, gun owners and activists in Washington spearheaded the “Three Strikes” and “Hard Time” laws, and now far-left Democrat King County Executive Dow Constantine has announced his own “public safety plan that focuses on reducing crime, gun violence and behavioral health crises.”

However, Constantine’s announcement amounts to what is sometimes sarcastically described as “word salad.”

“We can have a robust and coordinated public safety system that creates genuine safety for everyone in King County,” Constantine declares on Facebook, “while upholding our values. By breaking down silos across county government, working with community-based organizations and broadening our options beyond just the traditional responses, we can help end harmful cycles and implement new partnerships that bring about systemic change.”

He wants to launch a new unit in the Sheriff’s Department “focused on reducing gun violence.”

He also wants to reduce the inquest backlog “to shed light on the facts & circumstances surrounding a death at the hands of law enforcement.”

Like McDonald, Constantine has no record of sitting down with anyone in the firearms community, else he might learn some reasons why his county has the highest number of active concealed pistol licenses in Washington state. At last count, the Evergreen State boasted 667,260 active CPLs and 105,091 were in King County, which encompasses Seattle.

Commissions and “public safety plans” may have some benefit, but until people like McDonald and Constantine are willing to have representatives from the firearms community at the table, such efforts are more likely to result in projection, ultimately blaming guns and gun owners for problems they did not create and crimes they did not commit.

About Dave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms, and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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In order to be a Democrat “gun expert” you only need to know one thing.

Gun == Bad


… or how to drool.




think it is your gun bad because the Hippocrates have them but you should not

Last edited 4 days ago by swmft

Her first name is appropriate and I can fix this for this idiot quick. There is no such thing as gun violence. Only violent humans . Now the voters of Michigan need to fix Karen and flush the POS .


OK, understand one thing: we are not dealing with ‘liberals.’ The once-democratic party is not a ‘liberal’ party. The once-democratic party is now a Cultural Marxist party governed by the Progressive New Left. The Progressive New Left is not interested in finding truth. They are interested in finding power and suppressing opposition. That is why ‘gun violence’ studies all start with the preconceived conclusion that all guns are bad unless they are in the hands of government goons. Your guns are a direct threat to totalitarians and tyrants. That is why they fear you.


agree with one correction

the left has always been this way

the agenda has always been gov control over the people

we are just living in the timeframe where their power in the usa

has become unprecedented so they have less/litte to no fear

of saying and doing what they are doing

( burning down cities etc)

Wild Bill

That is true! Check this out: ” Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida has decided to show the entire country how bold and brave he actually is by taking a stand against the most well-armed and dangerous force ever assembled against the citizens of this beautiful country of ours. Who might that be, you ask?   According to Fox News, the congressman is taking on the Internal Revenue Service, asking the one question that we all desperately need the answer to: Why has the Biden administration’s IRS bought more than $700K worth of ammunition? I mean, they are only supposed to be accountants going… Read more »


When I lived there Oakland County (or at least my part of it) was reliably Republican and many of the Democrats had firearms for either hunting or home defense. No one legally carried of course, that was the rule across most of the country until well after I left in ’79.


Typical of DemoRat led enclaves, Gretchen the Whitless can’t allow anyone with knowledge of real answers to the problem, be represented. November 8th will hopefully bring an end to her reign!

VCDL President

The only knowledge about guns that “gun-violence experts” have is that they don’t like guns.


The commission does not need a gun expert…..IT’S NOT THE GUNS, STUPID!!!! It is the Defective Citizens. They need Defective Citizen Experts on the commission.

One of the notable aspects of the democratic process is that one need not know anything about a subject in order to pass laws about it.” – the late Col Jeff Cooper.


The man was..is, a legend…he was a legend in his own time…he’s a treasure today.. (no homo)

Last edited 4 days ago by Boom

the agendas conclusions are known before any meetings occur

its just a matter of getting more tax money to the “commissions”

so they can ONCE AGAIN

show the plebs

who is boss

who really is in charge


No group is ever going to stop “gun violence”, as it does not exist. It is a made-up term to demonize that which they want to control. (the gun) There is no way in HELL to stop violence, it has been going on since the beginning of recorded history. It has been going on in my religion since Cain killed Abel. HINT: he didn’t use a gun. I’m pretty sure that cavemen killed other cavemen before the written word was there to capture the results. The only way to attempt to curb violence is to quickly and publicly punish the… Read more »


Until you somehow get charged with defending your own home…then you won’t want the extra 10 years…

…..not that most everything you said here isn’t spot on…it’s just, that could have repercussions too…


Ah, Just what we need! Another commission of ‘Firearms Experts’ ready to render unto us, their logic for why we need to erase the 2nd amendment to our Constitution, along with anything else which, to them, appears to lean a little toward the sensible side. No doubt this new group will have the sanction of our in-house ‘AR-17’ expert, Joey Biden, who can’t say for sure where he shit last, along with his cohorts who think the way to eliminate crime is to publicly announce that it is illegal. Just watch how many criminals die from a busted gut, brought… Read more »


Virtue signaling doesn’t solve any problem, you actually have to know what you’re doing. Sadly, those on the left yield to emotions instead of logic.