HuffPo Academic Invites Civil War with American Gun Owners

By David Codrea

AR Militia
“Progressive” immigrant and academic Amitai Etzioni, who apparently thinks Americans will surrender to his demands and allow themselves to be disarmed, has actually done us a favor by leaving no doubt that he and his kind want it all.
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USA –  -(Ammoland.com)-  “No one wants to take your guns” has been a common and longstanding talking point employed by the gun-grabbers to mask their true goals of total citizen disarmament through gun confiscation.

That's usually followed by ridiculing those suggesting that's the case with accusations of being “paranoids.” A Huffington Post article, posted on Pearl Harbor Day of all days, takes the mask off and reveals the end game, and why not one inch can be ceded to the totalitarian lobby under the deception of “compromise.”

Needed: Domestic Disarmament, Not ‘Gun Control',” reads the headline by Amitai Etzioni, Professor of International Studies at George Mason University. That appointment represents typical Opposite Day “progressivism,” considering the sentiments of the man the university is named after regarding an armed citizenry capable of defeating hostile military forces, not to mention the unequivocal convictions of Mason’s contemporaries. Etzioni’s tenure there is indicative of how corruption in high places, such as academia, the media, religious institutions and government, has perverted the vision of the Founders to supplant freedom with tyranny.

‘[T]o disarm the people – that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them,” Mason observed (3 Elliot, Debates at 380). Etzioni is demanding that result. And he evidently believes it will happen without a fight.

All the “incremental” measures to get to the end game may be useful, but they just don't go far enough, Etzioni maintains, citing just about every “gun control” measure employed and/or proposed to date, including universal background and mental health checks, magazine limits, terror watch lists, manufacturer and dealer lawsuit protections, computerized registration and the like. Those just won't do the trick, he complains.

Perhaps now might be a good time to let Gomer get a word in. And Oliver.

“[P]rogressives may as well go for the big enchilada: Call for domestic disarmament,” Etzioni demands. “[W]e may have to get to domestic disarmament through the back door.”

How does he intend to do that?

Make the gun manufacturers liable for harm done with their products. Ban the sale of ammunition. And vote for a president that will add to the Supreme Court those who will read the Second Amendment as written. Above all, domestic disarmament is a true, compelling vision which cannot be said about the small gun control measures that are currently promoted by some of the most enlightened people among us.

And how does he intend to enforce disarmament when some of not only defy such affronts to freedom, but actively resist it?

Will he force us into becoming what the wretched Coalition to Initiate Gun Violence disparages as “insurrectionists,” for opposing usurpers who would steal our birthright?

Etzioni doesn’t flesh that out for us.  Hey, he’s just dispensing wisdom from the ivory tower. The nuts and bolts of things is for less elite grunts and functionaries to figure out and execute against the hundred million people who grow the food, transport the goods, build the buildings, keep the lights on, and in many cases, patrol the streets and drive the tanks. At most, enforcer exploits against “those people” will be something he watches on the news or discusses at faculty parties—he’ll have no actual skin in the game.

Or so he and those like him must evidently think if they continue to incite death and destruction against those who want to be left alone and will not go gentle into that good night. For some reason, Julius Streicher comes to mind. So perhaps I should speak directly to “the good professor”:

Get this, you monstrous foreign collectivist, who came to this country to escape Nazi horrors and enjoy the Blessings of Liberty: How twisted and evil that you now work to undermine the very reasons why the Holocaust your family fled from will never happen here, at least without those issuing and carrying out the orders hanging from lamp posts.

Because WE WILL NOT DISARM.

Recall your Palmach experience, where you participated in armed and violent underground campaigns against the British, and now imagine such operations in “everytown,” because truthfully, WE ARE EVERYWHERE.

In a way, I should thank you. “You've actually done us a favor by leaving no doubt that you and your kind want it all.

No. You can't have it.  As a matter of fact, some of us are intent on taking back what's already been stolen. Plus, it's very useful of you to definitively admit that all the other “gun control” measures don't work, and that disarming police needed to enforce them will be the icing on the cake — leaving just elite specialists loyal to the masters with controlled access to arms.

A couple years back, you told your “progressive” HuffPo readership about “the gun debate [you] lost.” You now demand things move beyond mere argument.  That means loss will not be measured in academic regrets. If the abomination you are birthing emerges, what makes you think those who survive the horrors you and your kind have demanded will not remember the part you played?

Your move.

David Codrea in his natural habitat.

About David Codrea:

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and also posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

  • 39 thoughts on “HuffPo Academic Invites Civil War with American Gun Owners

    1. Here, here! As a Retired U.S. Army officer and one who has spent over 3 decades in service to my country, I will not be disarmed by the likes of this idiot. I am not some paranoid war monger. What I am is an American. Idiots like this are why this past Black Friday more guns were sold than ever before.

    2. Takers have no limits. Their idea of negotiations or compromise is capitulation, total unconditional surrender. If not for armed Americans, many of whom grew up with firearms in the home, the over educated fool, Etzioni, would be speaking German or Japanese today, if indeed he were alive to speak any language. I do not understand how an “educated” American Jew whose people were damn near annihilated to the tune of approximately 6,000,000 souls can, with any conscience at all, support totalitarian government practices. Educated … maybe. Intelligent … highly questionable.
      [W3]

    3. America is in it’s current predicament because the academics dictating policy don’t know the world beyond the ‘faculty lounge’.

    4. What changed that he now hates weapons to defend yourself ??
      During Etzioni’s time in the Palmach, underground Jewish groups, mainly the Irgun and Lehi militias, and to a lesser extent the Palmach, were carrying out a violent campaign against the British authorities to compel them to allow more Jewish immigration to Palestine and leave the country to enable a Jewish state to be established. Etzioni participated in a Palmach operation to blow up a British radar station near Haifa being used to track ships carrying illegal Jewish immigrants attempting to enter Palestine. Etzioni’s team managed to breach the fence protecting the radar station and plant and detonate a bomb, and escaped after the British shot their team leader through the head.[2] After the Israeli Declaration of Independence and the outbreak of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, Etzioni’s Palmach unit participated in the defense of Jerusalem, which was under siege by the Arab Legion. They snuck through Arab lines and for the next few months, fought to defend Jerusalem and to open a corridor to Tel Aviv, participating in the Battles of Latrun and the establishment of the Burma Road.[3]

    5. Many of us who still believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, are ready. I don’t think mass attempted confiscation is a maybe issue, but a when issue. I don’t look forward to it not do I hope it happens. But if it does, I have no doubts the 100 million Patriots standing quietly in the shadows will quickly get their point across as to where they stand on their collective rights. God help us all if they try.

    6. I truly feel safe in saying that I cannot understand a mind, one that must at least have been educated to call himself a professor, that calls out loud for “Domestic Dsarmament” of a country that has a complete and fully legal process for the protection of its citizens which requires certain criteria be met before a legal proccess to remove “Inailiable Rights” from a population. He most certainly couldn’t have been absent for that class where he went to get that brilliant mind vacated of common sense during his education process. Listen Professor, If you don’t want a gun, no one forces you to possess one. If you don’t want to exercise your rights under the 2nd amendment, there is absolutely no law that requires you to do so. But if your attitude is that because you don’t care for something that it is OK to deny other citizens the ability to exercise their “inaliable Rights”, you are far more than wrong. There is no argument that you can provide that will convince me that because you say so is enough for me and millions of other legally armed citizens to believe your ideals. Even a vote of the population would fail to pass congressional muster to do that. You are nothing more than another whining highbrow that feels both intelectually and morally superior. Further more I find it very worrysome that you are actually in an education system filling young minds with this kind of drivel. The future of this country depends on citizens that have freedoms that are viable and indisputable, just like the 2nd amendment,and strong minds that will be able to reject your idiotic proposal.

    7. Pretty much any and everything out of huff & puff is from a lot of over educated LIB TURD ,NO COMMON sense type worms IF somethng were to happen. AFTER they piss their panties, THEY BEST hide. Some people WILL REMEMBER THEM an what they said.

    8. “Above all, domestic disarmament is a true, compelling vision which cannot be said about the small gun control measures that are currently promoted by some of the most enlightened people among us.”

      How does he pack so much failure and ego into one sentence?

    9. The author of the article in question, Amitai Etzioni, ‘served as a senior advisor to the Carter White House; taught at Columbia University, Harvard and the University of California at Berkeley; and is a professor of international relations at the George Washington University. A study by Richard Posner ranked him among the top 100 American intellectuals.’

      And now he writes an op-ed for the HuffPo endorsing gun confiscation. This guy needs to concentrate on his specialty of socioeconomics and communitarianism or retire and shut his pie hole. I prefer the latter.

    10. What was it that Charlton Heston said about his cold dead body.
      American gun owners are a threat to those who think they should control the world and we should do their bidding. We are now in a struggle with those very ones who are attempting to take down the U.S. from within. One of the biggest signs is the national debt, left wing liberals and their minion in the White House.

    11. I suspect that there might – MIGHT, mind you – just be a mustard seed-sized grain of truth in the confiscationists’ thesis. If guns WERE as rare here then gun crimes just might be somewhat less common. The problem, as I see it, is getting there without a horrifically bloody civil war in the process. The Japanese NEVER had gun in the numbers we – or even the Aussies – do. Their culture is entirely different from ours. They never had to go from a condition where guns are owned by a very large minority (if not an actual majority) of citizens. The criminal element has never been armed.

      The problem is essentially one of “You cannot get there from here.” Why do these numbskulls think that even a significant percentage of us (as Obama described us) “bitter clingers” will meekly submit to being declawed and neutered like a housecat? I expect that after attempts at actual confiscation begin we’ll start seeing folks like this moke being assassinated. The quickest, most efficient way to “clean up” college campuses would be to go after faculty such as this “wise fool”. Media pundits would make effective targets also. I know the elite would gladly fight to the last LEO or FLEA (Federal Law Enforcement Agent) or soldier; but would they fight to the last government official or media pundit or alpha-bureaucrat? I fear we are on the bleeding edge of finding out.

    12. With their confiscation law they should be forced to be first in line at the door when they arrive to take your guns… lets see how well that works for them and the 12 guys behind them….
      And if the try the “buy back” approach, where are they going to get the 300 billion dollars the guns worth to buy them?

    13. “Your move.”
      That is brilliantly concise, David, and I’m seeing those two words in comments following articles all over the place.

    14. Thank you, Christopher Little, for the link. Without it, I would have missed this-
      Professor Etzioni “has a three-step formula for changing society. Step One, create the message. Step Two, spread the message. Step Three, organize a grassroots movement.”

      Hmmm. Sounds like a certain community organizer I know of, whose every effort to date has been a complete and utter failure. No wonder the second worst president in American history chose Mr. Etzioni as a Senior Advisor.

    15. The Japanese did have a Great Sword Hunt, After Hideoshi consolidated power, the notice was sent out all over the country that all weapons would be turned in , in order to obtain the metal for a giant religious statue. This did not apply to the samurai class, just the peasants. Of course this was just a pretext for getting the arms. Coincidentally, this was followed by roughly 250 years of an oppressive single family dictatorship……

    16. Throughout history, the Japanese criminal element (like the criminal element in other places) has NEVER been DISARMED (even though the general population has been), although they may not have been armed with firearms.

      Allowing NO weapons, or only those, like clubs and edged weapons, that require physical strength and training to use effectively, is tantamount to disarming the elderly, female, disabled, and physically smaller and weaker elements of a society, and therefore amounts to victimizing them, because they are the ones who benefit most from the stand-off ability and equalizing power conferred by using firearms. This really needs to be pointed out more often, especially in the USA, because it forces anti-gun liberals to face up to, and address, the inevitable discrimination against inoffensive minority groups that is in inherent in their anti-gun position. Talk about “a war on women!” One has to wonder how Hillary et. al. explain their desire to disempower and discriminate against, women, the elderly, etc.

      I’m 70 years old, and have been involved in firearms use and training since I was 11 years old, as well as Asian martial arts (primarily Aikido, Hwarang-Do, and Tae Kwan Do) for more than 25 years ( although I no longer practice these because of physical issues associated with injuries and aging). What my training has taught me, is that, while I could probably still handle a single attacker, especially if he wasn’t expecting me to have any training, I would have great trouble dealing with more than one, or with sustaining actual physical combat for more than a couple of minutes. Further, hand-to-hand skills were always essentially useless against someone armed with a gun, who is more than 20 feet away (think terrorists). On the other hand, I still get to the range at least weekly, and can still get my first accurate shot off, from concealment, in around 1.5 seconds. I can still reliably hit a head-sized target with an aimed shot out to 50-60 yards in about 2.5 seconds. Thus, while my hand-to-hand skills have inevitably deteriorated with advancing age, my shooting skills still remain viable, despite declining eye-sight, strength, etc., even at 70.
      So I carry my .45 pistol 24/7. Not to do so would make me a much easier target for anything from robbers to terrorists, which I refuse to do, and for which I can see no moral justification for a government to force me to do.

    17. I grew up hearing my mother, who was made to feel ashamed of “being” southern, tell stories of her great uncle’s memories of his CSA service as a private and most vividly the harrowing tales of Reconstruction, following the the war. This type of tyranny is one and the same enemy fought during the 1860s. The Jeffersonian Republic died long ago with the “amendments signed at the point of the Union bayonet”. The Constitution as it was, used in the governance of the Republic, is no more. I am 70 years old, ya’ll can now call the fight anything you want, keeping in mind the “War to end slavery” has already been used. No matter, ya’ll can’t afford to lose this one! Martin K. Keene, STSCS (SS) (Ret.)

    18. HuffPo Academic. Now, “that”…is funny. I’ve never looked at any of Huffpo’s writers or contributors…as an “academic”…not by a long shot.
      “One of these days the talking will be over and the citizenry of the United States will decide whether or not to remain free.”
      — Dan W. Shoemaker

    19. Once they understand that 95 percent of Leo’s will not support this and 80-90 percent of military will not abide by this. They will not have the backbone to take this further they may be willing to put others out front but not themselves. I think they believe in their gut that people in their circles wont stand up for this that us uneducated folks would just fall in line.

      I THINK IT WILL BE AN OH GOD MOMENT FOR MANY PEOPLE.

    20. I found it amusing that he wrote “And vote for a president that will add to the Supreme Court those who will read the Second Amendment as written.” First, if he goes with what is written, nothing would change. We would keep our guns and all control laws would be trashed. Second, the liberals always want to say the constitution is a “living document” and should be changed as needed to meet changes in society. Now, he wants it to stay as originally written. Hey liberals….you can’t have it both ways. And…..come and get em….if you dare….

    21. Hmmmmm “Make the gun manufacturers liable for harm done with their products.”

      How about, Let’s make Liberals LIABLE for the harm that They do to this country ???

    22. “And vote for a president that will add to the Supreme Court those who will read the Second Amendment as written.”

      This overeducated fool does not understand the second “as written”. The first part acknowledges the desirability of and need for a citizen militia. The second part states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Nowhere does the amendment LIMIT arms to the militia. So I am all for justices who will interpret the second amendment as written. Any licensing, registration or permit requirements are a clear infringement.

    23. And some will say “we can’t let criminals or crazies have guns”. But the second amendment to not exclude them from the right. Freed felons and nuts have the same right to self-defense as the rest of us. Anyone who can not be trusted to be armed should not be running around loose.

    24. As I read the laws, both in NJ and CA where I currently reside, neither Felons, released after serving time or those whom you call “Certified Nuts” will be permitted licenses to carry. Of course the felons if they wish to carry will probably do so with or without a permit. The 5150s (as we call them out here) may well do what the San Berdoo gunmen did and use a loophole in the law to legally purchase firearms only to modify them aftermarket with large magazines and automatic firing parts.

      In any case people who apply for concealed carry should be treated equally under the law no matter their race, creed or religion including Muslims who pass the stringent requirements and “vetting” to deserve to be awarded the appropriate permits.

      Proper training is of paramount importance. No agency should rely on mail-order training certificates such as the one I received when joining a certain organization some years ago. Each applicant must have been trained locally or by the military for safe use and carry as well as whom they can shoot and when. There are always consequences after shots are fired,even when defending one’s own home. When interdicting an active shooter on the shreet or other public place the stakes are raised a hundred fold. Criminals can and have won wrongful death suits against legitimate defensive shooters. So the bottom line is to never draw one’s firearm unless it’s for the immediate defense of self or others in immediate danger of loss of life. Just one person in San Bernardino with a concealed carry permit might well have prevented many of those 14 deaths.

    25. The only people afraid of firearms, and want them taken away from everyone, are people with twisted minds.
      It’s there way of thinking.
      They can’t be trusted, because they happen to be bad people, and are mentally unstable.
      Naturally, they assume you are too.
      Sad and funny at the same time.
      It’s basic psychology.
      The funny thing is; They don’t realize by taking the opposite position of good citizens, they reveal their character flaw.
      If their ignorance wasn’t so painfully aggravating, you might feel sorry for how they’ve been manipulated and misled.
      Guide them toward getting education, whenever possible.
      Begin with American History and how firearms are related to our Freedom and Liberty.
      Get them to realize the NRA is a World Authority on Firearms.
      No one has the level of competence the NRA has, and therefore doesn’t qualify to make decisions on laws and regulations concerning them.
      Does anyone, including Socialists, believe that Amitai Etzioni knows more about firearms than the NRA?
      Ya, laughable.

    26. What about knife violence? Car violence? Blunt object violence? Fist violence?

      Do you see the word, “Gun,” mentioned in any of these forms of violence?

      Right now, in Israel, the ISIS-like Palestinians are having an SUV jihad to go along with their knife intifada. Committing unspeakable acts of violence with no provocation – but plenty of promulgation by their IslamoNazi leaders.

      “Violence” is something that lies inside a person – not an object. The fact that twoice as many people have been punched to death as compared to shot to death by all rifles combined is a testament to that.

      Also, the #1 cause of death in the 20th Century – more than all causes combined – is the disarmament of civilians by their government. Over 300 million – (300 million is a conservative estimate) – were murdered after their guns were banned or taken from them.

      The Holocaust is a good example of what happens to a specifically-designated portion of your nation’s population when all Jews were disarmed by Hitler’s executive decree.

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