Cleveland Police Union Boss Wants Emergency Suspension Of Constitutional Rights

Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association President Steve Loomis
Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association President Steve Loomis on Sunday asked Ohio Gov. John Kasich to suspend the state’s open carry laws for the Republican National Convention. (Cory Shaffer, cleveland.com)
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USA –  -(Ammoland.com)- The Cleveland Police union boss has made an emergency request to suspend open carry for the duration of the Republican convention inside parts of the City of Cleveland.

“We are sending a letter to Gov. Kasich requesting assistance from him. He could very easily do some kind of executive order or something — I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point,” Cleveland Police Union president Stephen Loomis told CNN.

Once more powers that be want to target honest gun owners, if the police union boss really does not care about our rights, why doesn’t he want to suspend the right to free speech and shut down all the protesters.

If it is really about safety, why target law abiding gun owners, why not everyone. Bad people don’t follow laws and anyone that wants to kill cops or shoot conservatives will not follow an order that suspend our rights and they will bring guns no matter what. This requests would only effect people that follow the law in the first place.

Ohio’s open carry laws allow anyone without a felony record to carry guns in the state, including in downtown Cleveland, but not inside the U.S. Secret Service security zone around Quicken Loans Arena, where the RNC will be held Monday through Thursday.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich responded saying that Ohio governors don’t have the power to arbitrarily suspend federal and state constitutional rights or laws.

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Alan

Can he governor fire this clown? Likely not, but how about the mayor?

Alan

I feel for the guy, though I cannot quite reach him. Otherwise, now and then I too have the odd wet dream of power, dreams that remain unfullfilled.

Guido Rosso

Another fool who thinks he is above his oath of office !

DC

GOOD MAN… About time a politician does what he thinks and knows is ryte instead of just doing whatever they think they can get away with … AWESOME ALL OTHER POLITICIANS SHOULD TAKE NOT OF WHAT OHIO’S GOOD MAN IS SAYING AND DOING!!!

yancey

Loomis says he was born in Milwaukee but was born in Toledo. The man is sick and needs to go on down the road. 95%patrol officer Union despise this fool.

Alan

Note to Mr Loomis:

There are a bunch of things I too “wish” for. Poor me, I do not get them either. MEanwhile, the convention has been held, and in so far as I know, there was no discharge of weapons by anyone.

RayJN

So if someone grabbed him and threw him in a cell, it should be ok since he doesn’t care about constitutional rights.

Dave

@wild bill. Union Officials are elected from within the ranks. All Officers are sworn to uphold the Law of the Land (Constitution). Which part of “Shall not be infringed” are you confused about?

Wild Bill

@Dave, Well, I am not confused about the “…shall not be infringed…” part at all. I suspect that we probably share a similar view of it. But I am confused about the rules of that particular police union, specifically: Do the members lot the CPPA have the power to “dismiss” their union president during his term? If so, what is that mechanism? Or can the CPPA only rid themselves of their union president by not electing him next time.

Moroni Breitbart

Suspend it all you want there fat man…it won’t do any good, for those of us who know – and take very seriously – our Constitutional rights, don’t give a shit about unconstitutional edicts passed by elected or unelected ‘officials’ that have no business altering the rights we bear as citizens. Advice for you; lay off the double whoppers with cheese.

Dave

It is an honorable position. He has soiled it and failed his oath. He needs to be dismissed. There must be qualified people available who can handle the responsibility.

Wild Bill

@Dave, President Steve Loomis is pres. of a union. I don’t think that he takes an oath. I don’t know if he has done anything wrong under the Cleveland Police Patrolman’s Association rules. I don’t know if the CPPA can remove Loomis other than electing someone else next time. Or maybe they could take him to Arby’s for breakfast, lunch, and dinner everyday!

Pistol Pete

Maybe we need to suspend that fat so’s food intake and then maybe is head and stomach would not be so big.

Wild Bill

No, no, let him continue eating and drinking just as he has been, and the next article about him will be in the obituary column. I’d send him a case of cigarettes if I knew that he would use them. Eat up, drink up, and smoke up, Steve Loomis!

Ky patriot

Romans 13

Wild Bill

Luke 22 36-38

2nd Amender

While few paid attention , the communists made huge inroads into the fabric of American Life!
In 2012 they had the power to have Obama ‘re-elected’. Presently, but quietly, they will continue the communist agenda by attempting to place the socialist/progressive/communist candidate into power.

Subterfuge……offer a big salary, but demand obedience! It’s no different than selling your soul!

Just like the Clintons did!

Combonchic

I think we need a emergency firing of a Union Boss for failure to support contitution

Peter

“SUSPEND” constitutional rights?” Exactly whose rights would be suspended, and who could possibly have that kind of unbridled power? The chaos that would ensue is impossible to even guess. You can be assured of one thing though…..suspend constitutional rights for one group, and all others will rightfully assume they have been suspended for ALL! This is not a foolish concept………it is plain idiotic! The people with legitimate permits to possess and carry weapons(firearms) far out number those that would think they could come and take said permits and firearms. The worst war this country ever fought was the Civil War.… Read more »

frankj

whoever suspends the constitution is guilty of treason == needs to be tried and if guilty EXECUTED

frank

in the 60 and 70’s we had assassination after assassination ,, riot after riot ,, the real black panthers ,, and not once did we have to SUSPEND THE CONSTITUTION

COMMUTATUS

Let us take a moment and envision that the governor actually suspended the permits and reciprocity for all permitted carriers. Who do you think is going to enforce that edict………………….(jeopardy theme playing)…………TIMES UP! The correct answer is………THE COPS. Yes, dear supporters of your local sheriff, etc. Those same grand blue lives that get all that worship will be the ones who come to disarm you, what then? They won’t, you say. Well, I bet the people of Nawlins’ may have thought the same thing until the C.O.P. said “No one will be allowed to have weapons”. Think about it. It… Read more »

Clark Kent

Rkirka: How old are you amigo; twelve? Firing someone due to being a ‘statist and idiot’? Here is a clue: HE WAS ELECTED BY UNION MEMBERS AND CAN ONLY BE FIRED/REPLACED BY THE UNION. Look in the mirror to find a REAL ‘statist and idiot’.

A.X. Perez

The problem isn’t people carrying openly. You can keep an eye on people carrying openly. The problem is people carrying concealed weapons with evil intent.
The man is a fool.

Watchdogman

And this idiot said, I don’t know the law but Kasich could/should suspend Open carry…And he is head of a police union, maybe a former cop..

Douglas White

The perfect example of police state thought process.

Jim

Just another Coward and Traitor. Him of all people should know it’s not the legal gun owner he needs to worry about. Why don’t he just ask the criminals to leave their guns at home. What an idiot!!!!

Bobby

Union boss = Democrat operative = Hillary Clinton supporter = why you should not belong to any of these union organizations.

Jeffersonian

Butbutbut everyone keeps telling me how much “law enforcement supports the Second Amendment”!

Rkirka

If this union thug (his primary function, regardless of his official duties) is such a big fan of a politician taking unconstitutional actions, I suggest the governor start by firing THIS fatass on the charge of being a statist and idiot. I would approve of Ohio spending millions of dollars putting this guy through the (il)legal wringer, just to give him a taste of what he demands for the proles. If there was such a thing as an “illegal defense funds”, I’d contribute, just to do my small part to make his life miserable.

Dave

Cleveland Police Union Boss Wants Emergency Suspension Of Constitutional Rights
A “Union Boss” can’t do this…but…just the thought of this and that someone has actually said it…is a seed planted, that if nurtured by the uninformed or downright dumb…could grow into a martial law situation.

codefore

This is what is lacking in the police departments Nationwide. They think that their job does not include getting their hands dirty, taking responsibility, confronting danger in the face, or compassion for the citizens, and they don’t understand what their oath really means. They are employees and do what they think is their job as outlined in their union contract or their “job description” published by their employers. Today its cops on the street afraid of their own shadows and shoot or react in other ways out of fear. I’m an old school cop and cops who make statements like… Read more »

clarence

Amen

Clark Kent

His position is union president. He can only be removed from that position by the union members. Got it?

Ya'aqov ben Ya'aqov

Any public servant that takes a sworn oath to uphold the Constitution & later violates his sworn oath, especially when making a comment such as (…”I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point”…) is a man of vile & base character and should be immediately removed from his position.

mrtmd1

Pay ATTENTION…OPEN CARRY means you may have a HOLSTERED weapon on your person that is not concealed…You may have a SLUNG long-gun on your shoulder…That does not mean you may walk around with an AK-47 loaded at “THE READY”…The police chiefs need to publicly, loudly clearly state what the specific requirements are…Those that open carry rifle can and should be kept in special protest areas and watched closely,,,thru a scope attached to a police rifle.

Wild Bill

@Tex, you could not be more right. Those words will come back to haunt him. He has given lots of ammunition to his future opponents.

TEX

@Bill,when Loomis said “I don’t really care if it’s constitutional or not”,(might not be verbatim) those words might/should come back to haunt him.

TEX

At least the people of Ohio got to see that idiot Kasich on the national stage in his ridiculous attempt to become president. Maybe they will re-evaluate their position on whether or not they need this fool as governor. Kasich cast the deciding vote for the ’94 assault weapons ban making Bill Clinton very happy. I read the last sentence of the article and I said Kasich might cave,not that he did. I still think the tick bit fool could cave too.

TEX

If you read my post I said he would probably cave. Keep in mind,Kasich is an idiot ! (He’s the moron that cast the deciding vote on the ’94 assault weapons ban,making Bill Clinton very happy )The 2A is why we have Open Carry at all. If you want to nit pick and split hairs fine ! Whatever flops your mop !

PickTheBooger

SO, do we get to open carry on odd or even days?

Wild Bill

@ Larry, At the time of the union election, no one knew that Loomis would advocate such a foolish position. Maybe Loomis is in other respects a skillful representative of the unions members. One still can’t logically jump from Steve Loomis puts his foot in his mouth to kill all cops because someone calling themselves rick says to.

Larry M

And the “Good Cops” elect these thugs to represent them. they just don’t get it do they?

Wild Bill

@Rick First, Steve Loomis is the Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association President. Second, by what logic do you get from a union president’s foolish ravings to “… kill the cops…”? Third, you do not even limit it to bad cops or the cops that come to your door to take away your guns. Finally, I don’t think that you will convince anyone on this site to do your dirty work for you.

SuperG

I think this is telling about police departments, and their related associations, in that since they are now elected by the people and are mayoral appointees, they don’t service the Constitution as a Sheriff would.

rick

the Constitution is the Supreme Law in all of the US there fore no law can suspend it as it would be inferior to it .There is nothing wrong with corrupt politicians ending up dead there is nothing wrong with jack booted thugs with zero grey matter between their ears and wearing bllue Halloween costumes ending up dead i encourage people to kill the cops before they kill you as we have seen now in countless videos they have no problem shooting the innocent defenseless civilians

RAF

It is quite evident union boss thugs have always sided with the Marxist democrats. Republicans also traitors to constitution . How is it law enforcement and military all complicit in false flag events??Treason abounds wake up become active educate participate. http://www.Conventionofstates http://www.Krissannhall nullification.
The one world order cabal will stop at nothing to gain complete control. Divinci said challenge question enquire but never follow accepted wisdom. We got here because good people followed accepted wisdom!!!!

Wild Bill

Cleveland Police Patrolmen’s Association President Steve Loomis believes that government power is superior to the Civil Rights of Individuals. That is a stunningly ignorant, dangerous, and eventually tyrannical belief.

john

A SHORT RESPONCE,BUT SAYS IT ALL,AT LEAST SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS,THANKS BILL

Jera Anderson

Loomis, as a rule I fully support our men and women in Law Enforcement fully and unconditionally. I and many, many others consider them our Brothers in Arms. We’d step up to protect them in a heartbeat. In THIS specific instance, your request to violate (or “suspend”) ANY duly enacted law, regulation, right or liberty smacks BIG TIME of a leader who has NO CLUE how to lead. You’re “president” of your union. I can’t begin to imagine how in the hell that happened. Here’s a clue for you, Loomis. Let’s suspend your unlimited trips to the desert bar. Get… Read more »

Curt Doolittle

In the choice between suspending constitutional rights, and following one’s orders, the only choice available is to GO HOME.
Just as the only choice when a soldier is given an immoral order, is to refuse to obey it.
Just as the only choice when an officer is given an immoral order, is to resign your commission.

gcdugas

“I don’t care if it’s constitutional or not at this point,”… come on, be honest, you don’t care if anything is Constitutional and you haven’t ever cared a bit about people having rights you big fat tax-feeding pig.

corey h

I wonder who he donated to in 2008 & 2012 elections. I have a feeling it was @ssh@le..

greg

IF he’s going to get the Supreme Law of the land changed, which breaks the U.S. Constitutional and Ohio state law, THEN people going to the RNC may as well take their OPEN CARRY guns, because if to carry a gun is “breaking a law”, but that law already breaks the (Supreme) law, then the ultimate outcome of two negatives is a positive.

That is to say, in this case two wrongs WOULD equal a right. And therefore, the right thing to do would still be to OPEN CARRY one’s gun.

TEX

The police in Cleveland can ID people OC’ing and make sure they have valid ID and credentials. They would also get many,many ‘prohibited persons’ of the streets. If the Africans want to yell racism let them yell, while they ‘take the ride’ !

Mike

Like the criminals and “would be shooters” are going to respect the law anyway. These people are what’s wrong with America.