Perfectly Useless Guns (negligent discharges) Continued

By John Farnam

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Perfectly Useless Guns (negligent discharges) Continued
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Ft Collins, CO –-( “A gun that is perfectly safe, is perfectly useless!” ~ Cooper

NDs in “forward areas:”

Since 2007, there have been 126 “reported” NDs ( negligent discharges ) in Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan). Three deaths, and eleven other (non-fatal) injuries.

However, those are just the ones that were “reported.” You can probably multiply that by at least ten to get the actual number of NDs!

Our predictable response has been to endlessly reiterate to beleaguered soldiers how to unload guns properly, how to make their guns useless. “Safe Weapons Clearing” is all that anyone is apparently worried about!

This is from a Battalion Sgt Major:

“A round doesn't go into the chamber when you are on the FOB (forward operating base), because:

  • (1) There isn't a ‘need‘ to keep rounds chambered in weapons on the FOB
  • (2) The “atmosphere‘ really doesn't put us in a position to walk around with loaded weapons
  • (3) If a soldier were to get into any type of trouble, he will have enough time to lock and load that weapon.”


Can you imagine how that pseudo-sanctimonious lecture would go over among a group of domestic police officers, police who daily work in places a lot less exciting than a typical overseas FOB? Our cryptic reply would be, “Sorry sergeant, but we carry loaded guns all the time, on-duty and off, and we don't care who likes it!”

Who carry pistols with empty chambers are not “ready” for anything but becoming homicide victims!

I'm not sure what “atmosphere” the Sgt Major is talking about, but FOBs are frequently, and aggressively, probed by insurgents who passionately want to murder every American they can get close to, and I suspect those insurgents are all carrying loaded guns. They apparently didn't get the Sgt Major' s memo!

Soldiers, like domestic police, should be trained to comfortably carry and keep loaded guns, particularly pistols, constantly. The real source of the “ND Problem” is endless, and utterly unnecessary, gun-handling mandated by stupid “rules,” put in place by careerists more worried about their next promotion than they are about the safety of their men.

When loaded pistols just stay in holsters and are not touched (except in emergencies), most unnecessary gun-handling, and thus most NDs, will be eliminated.

Forward-deployed soldiers continually unprepared for battle is a misanthropic contradiction of terms, and a predictable formula for massacre. And, we've experienced many such pathetic massacres of unarmed American soldiers, here and there, over and over again, and all we seem to be able to worry about is how we can disarm more of our soldiers, more of the time!

Among domestic police, we are armed continually, as noted above. Yes, we have NDs now and then, even ones causing injury. But we get over it, and back to work, quickly! Our response is always more intense and courageous training, never nervously disarming everyone!

Guns are dangerous! But, we need them. In order to be personally victorious, we, and the guns we carry, need to be always in a high state of readiness. That should be the goal of all training.

“Over the years, Americans have been all too willing to squander hard-earned independence and freedom for the illusion of ‘feeling safe' under someone else's authority. The concept of self-sufficiency has been undermined over a scant few generations. The vast majority of the population seems to look down their noses upon self-reliance as some quaint dusty relic, entertained only by the hyper-paranoid or those hopelessly incapable of fitting into mainstream society.” ~ Cody Lundin

Heroes never “fit-in!”

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  • 8 thoughts on “Perfectly Useless Guns (negligent discharges) Continued

    1. Believe it or not back in the 80s and early 90s the Chicago Police Dept forbid it’s officers from carrying a semi-auto pistol with a chambered round. At the time the authorized duty weapon was a revolver and many officers carried a pistol as a back up. It was not unusual to be asked during roll call inspection if you had a round chambered and be ordered to clear the weapon.

    2. It might be his call, but it illustrates how totally out of whack our gun handling, mindset, and tactics are in that culture.

      My best gun fighting training happened away from the service. I did get some good- and once, some great- gunfighting training from the military, but it was training not designed for the average service member. THAT was a shame. It should have been.

    3. It is the SMG’s call. You have a right to your opinion, but unless you are there, it is his call.

    4. I disagree. Police and self defense carry (thats the only reason police cardy btw) is a totally seperate senario from a fob. Self defense carry in public faces a totally unknown threat from any direction at any time with no means of support. Carrying loaded is clearly the best option.

      On a fob you are by deffinition in a secure area. One with people who are fully loaded on guard 24 hous a day. And most importantly the only ppl there are part of your unit and are a known factor. In tbe event of an attack there IS time to chamber a round. The danger of an nd in a fob is high and the time available to load is plenty.

      Fact is selfe defense and police are TOTALLY different from wartime combat.

      1. An empty pistol makes a great paper weight. It is also the most dangerous thing you can have as in ” I could have sworn it was empty, sorry that I shot you”. It is always the empty gun that blows someones brains out.

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