The Staggering Safety of Living With Concealed Carry Holders Among Us

By Andrew Scott

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The Staggering Safety of Living With Concealed Carry Holders Among Us
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If I had a nickel for every time I’ve been called “paranoid” for carrying a gun or defending the 2nd Amendment I most certainly wouldn't be driving around my beater of a truck.

This seems to be the fallback for anti-gun zealots, an accusation they feel is so self-evident that they don't feel the need to back it up with evidence (which is good for them, because there’s no evidence to back it up).

Interestingly enough, this point always seems to be brought up when anti-gunners talk about their fear of the pro-gun community.

Take for example this recent blog post by Huffington Post writer Carter Gaddis, that went viral, in which a father describes his instant fear and apprehension at seeing an NRA decal. Or there’s the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence encouraging their followers to (criminally) call the police on anyone they see with a firearm, whether open or conceal carried, to “protect the safety of your loved ones.”

It seems to me as though we're not the paranoid ones – they are.

But just to be sure I decided to run some numbers. What are the odds that their worst fear, a law-abiding gun owner snaps and decides to start murdering people, happens? How do those odds stack up against the odds that we may one day be the victims of a violent crime, a possible situation that is at the forefront of many gun-carrier’s minds?

Since we don’t have a national gun registry (thank God!) we don't have nationwide numbers on the crime rates of citizens who legally own firearms. However, Texas does keep track of the crime rates of concealed carriers, and since we know for a fact that these individuals have passed a background check and kept a clean record, it provides us with an adequate benchmark.

That’s a rate of roughly .565/100,000.

But keep in mind, that’s the ratio of CHL holders who committed a murder. That is not the murder rate of Texan’s committed by CHL holders.

This is where it gets really interesting.

In 2013 Texas had 26,448,193 citizens. Of those, 4 people were murdered by a CHL holder. That puts the probability of being murdered in Texas by a CHL holder at a mind-blowing –

.0151/100,000

The national homicide rate (or probability of getting murdered)? 4.3/100,000. Only a 28,000% difference.
And we’re the ones you’re worried about?

Just for fun I decided to extrapolate those numbers for the average lifetime of a U.S. citizen, 78.74 years. The odds of being murdered by a CHL holder in Texas during a whole lifetime of living in Texas?

1 in 83,973

Just to put some perspective on that, according to a CNN article the average person today has about a 1 in 12,000 chance of getting struck by lightning during their lifetime. Yes, you’re 7 times more likely to get struck by lightning than get murdered by a CHL holder while living in Texas.

What if you played the Powerball every single week for your entire life? Well, the odds of winning on a single ticket is 1 in 175,223,510, and if you played that every week you'd buy 4,094 tickets. Your odds of winning once? 1 in 42,800, nearly twice as likely as getting murdered by a CHL holder in Texas.

Now you might think I just cherry-picked the best year for Texas CHL holders when I got my numbers, rather than just using the most recent numbers available. So I decided to look back a bit. 2012 saw 2 murders by CHL holders in TX, 2011 saw 4 plus 3 manslaughters, 2010 – well I don't know, I got bored of looking at consistently low numbers.

So, what are the odds of being a victim of violent crime? In 1987 the New York Times ran a headline titled “83% TO BE VICTIMS OF CRIME VIOLENCE.” That figure was arrived at by the “Government’s National Crime Survey” from 1975-1984, but violent crime has reduced dramatically since then. When I ran some (quick, not very scientific) numbers I arrived at a roughly 25% chance of being a victim of violent crime in modern lifetimes. Now of course crime isn't totally random, so I’ll use the demographic figures from this article from Crime In America, which states that males have an 18.4% chance to be a victim of violence, and white people a 15.8% chance, or roughly 1 in 6 between the two. These numbers seem very conservative to me, but they’ll do just fine to illustrate the point.

I arm myself so I can potentially protect myself, my loved ones, friends, family, and even innocent bystanders from violent people. The odds that just I, myself, will at some point be the victim of violence according to Crime In America is about 1 in 6. That’s the likelihood that my fear will come true.

Once again, the odds that the anti-gunner’s fear of one of us “gun-toting psychos” snapping and murdering them? 1 in 83,973.

That means they're 14,000 times more paranoid than we are. And that’s just math.

*Writer’s Note: I’ve obviously taken some liberty with these numbers due to the limited amount of information regarding gun owners nationwide. Most of these figures assume that the murder rate seen in Texas by CHL holders is indicative of legal gun carriers nationwide. I’m sure these numbers would shift given accurate nationwide data, but I believe that they would remain consistent enough to where the message would still be applicable.

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  • 29 thoughts on “The Staggering Safety of Living With Concealed Carry Holders Among Us

    1. Now you might think I just cherry-picked the best year for Texas CHL holders when I got my numbers, rather than just using the most recent numbers available. So I decided to look back a bit. 2012 saw 2 murders by CHL holders in TX, 2011 saw 4 plus 3 manslaughters, 2010 – well I don’t know, I got bored of looking at consistently low numbers.Good article,keep it up.

    2. I think the statistics support the paranoid verdict. Most crime happens in the big urban centres, but most gun-carrying folk are in the sticks. In other words, the people carrying guns are extremely unlikely to ever need to use them, which suggests to me that they have an irrational fear (ie, paranoia) of gun crime. Which is ironic.

      This debate is not about whether to ban guns or not. It’s about whether we can make sure that people who exercise their right to own a firearm do so responsibly and are competent. What kind of sensible gun owner thinks that untrained idiots should be allowed to own firearms? None. It’s only the manufacturers (represented by the NRA) that profit from this, while the majority of actual citizens are in favour of tougher rules, not just to prevent criminal actions but to make sure that people treat firearms responsibly to reduce negligence.

      1. The vast majority of the money that comes into the NRA is from Members, and not gun manufacturers. How about some facts to backup your talking points?

      2. @Bick The vast majority of actual citizens do not support tougher rules just because you say so . Give facts to support your claims . Typical liberal tactic claim “most” “everyone agrees” ” we all know” etc. etc. etc.

    3. I’ve been a CCL holder for 4 years. Unlike the vast majority of my detractors, I passed a background check and unlike many of them, could still pass it. My firearms has yet to leap from my waistband and shoot anyone (or anything!). I am generally a level-headed person, but much more so when armed. No matter how great the provocation, I know that I cannot be seen as the aggressor by any reasonable person. When I am not armed, I can join in an argument at the top of my voice if I so choose. Armed, I have to keep a civil tongue in my head.

      Unarmed, I can talk like the anti-gun crowd. Armed, I have to speak and act like an intelligent, well-tempered person.

      As I am well into my 63rd year, I doubt if I will become a wild-eyed assassin any time soon but I’ll keep an eye out for that tendency … thanks for warning me.

    4. Constitutional Conservatives like myself who supports our Consitution as a whole plus the Second Amendment, including many of you who posted herein, must realize that the majority of any good cause is loosing to the left-wing, liberal “mob” mentality; the squeaky wheel gets the grease, just like in SC with the Confederate Flag representing more than history alone but those soldiers who died fighting for States’ Rights above all else, who were later deemed United States Military “veterans” by an Act of Congress.

    5. Let’s not go too far about brains. Have you looked at MA gun laws? Many of the guns such as Glocks can only be purchased if they’re about 20 years old. Fortunately, a Gen 1 Glock will still fire, even in MA.

      1. The reason LA is on the upswing in violent crime is because of the gun controlling Democrats that run this lousy state. LA is the West Coast Chicago didn’t you know that? LA would exceed Chicago if Feinstein, Polosky, Boxer, and Takano had their way because they would take every gun away from every citizen EXCEPT themselves and their body guards of course. They need protection, we don’t. So NEVER, NEVER, NEVER (that’s three NEVERS) compare Socialistic California with ANY other state EXCEPT New York. All the other states are run by people that have a brain, especially Texas!

    6. What concerns me is the simple fact that the more people have guns, the more likely they are to fall into hands that should not have them. How many violent crimes were perpetrated with legally registered weapons period (regardless of who committed the crime)? Statistics on that would be much more relevant to the question of overall safety in society. I don’t have the numbers on that, but I suspect that if there were no guns in private ownership, there would be less chance of someone getting their hands on a gun to commit crimes that require you to defend yourself with a gun. Can you reviewer those statistics on a future post?

      1. Sure. If we could just un-invent gunpowder all would be good in the world, right? If we had no guns then anyone with one could be king or emperor. A criminal who stole one from the friendly government could kill and steal at will. Few guns means more crime. Fewer guns means we report to a king. That’s why those old idiots wrote the 2nd amendment, don’t ya know? You live in a dream world.

        1. Did you make it through that entire reply without throwing something or peeing your pants laughing….whenever i hear someone mention the need to rid the city of ALL guns and that crime would magically disappear i scratch my head and wonder how they survived this far in life……
          Signed:
          Arizona CCW holder and vet….

      2. “As our civil rulers, not having their duty to the People before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our Country may pervert their power to the injury of their fellow Citizens, the People are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” Tench Coxe, Founder
        “Congress have no power to disarm the People. The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of the Federal or State Governments, but where I trust to God it will ever remain; In the hands of the People.” Tench Coxe, Founder
        “Their swords, and every terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American.” Tench Coxe, Founder
        ” A Free People ought not only to be properly armed and equipped, they should possess sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from all who would abuse them, which would include their Government.” George Washington, Founder and 1st President under the Constitution
        I could go on for HOURS with the words of James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, George Mason, Governour Morris and MANY other Founders as to the illegality of Gun Control in this Nation. When the Bill of Rights was ratified in 1791, it became the Supreme Law of the Land, and only a Constitutional Amendment may alter or abolish the rights protected therein. EVERY gun-control measure undertaken in this Nation from the 1934 NFA on, whether at the Federal, State or local level, is not only unConstitutional, it is an act of TREASON!!! (James Madison, Federalist Paper #46)
        Any questions?

      3. If you look back through history (before firearms were invented) you would see that there have always been bad people committing crimes. So to utter some false narrative that disarming the honest and law abiding will somehow make crime go away is ignorant.

      4. @ James what you suggest is the formula for increased crime. You want to see how open our borders are the black market would explode! Example study prohibition of alcohol .

    7. I think Florida tracks their concealed carrier crime stats as well, but it is a little bit more involved getting those numbers. Not nearly as straightforward as the numbers from Texas.

    8. That Huff rant about the guy who fears an NRA member is too much.

      Guess he has no clue that there are many, many more law abiding firearms owners who are not NRA members.

      1. Right. There are 100+ million law abiding gun owners in the country. Out of that number, somewhere between 4 million and 6 million are NRA members. Those 4 to 6 million are carrying the fight for the 94 million slackers. Think how much protection or 2nd Amendment would have if every law abiding gun owner stood up and fought for that right.
        A year or so ago I read an article that said that CCW holders had a better safety record than the law. I didn’t print it out and now I can’t find it.
        I also read somewhere that the Secret Service and the FBI are always losing their weapons.

    9. Great article even if you present the numbers in a confusing way.
      You neglected to mention the comparable statistics. Murders committed by cops. More cops commit murders than CCW holders. That doesn’t even count the ‘justifiable’ homicides committed by cops. We all know that cops can kill and be justified when non-cops would be fighting for their freedom in front of 12 jurors. No ‘department policy’ to justify a homicide committed by a citizen in defense of their life. Nor do we have a prosecutors office that supports armed citizens like they do cops. The perceived threat allowed to justify self-defense is minuscule for the non-cop compared to the cop.
      But, anti-gunners are reacting to emotion, not facts.
      We need to plaster the world with images of guns via open carry and other options if we want to desensitize the anti-gunners. Even then, very few will become desensitized. Maybe we should be offering free adult diapers as we increase the prevalence of open carry so those who are prone to peeing their pants when they see a gun will have their own form of protection.
      The mantra to anti-gunners could be. If you are going to pee you pants every time you see a gun, go buy some diapers.

      1. Re what Idadho said; I wonder if the folks who abhor guns cringe at the sight of a six shooter on the hip of a character in a western movie or if they steadfastly refuse to watch ANY movie or TV production that involves guns and shoot-em-up action. I would venture not. If “Hollywood” and its stars are as anti-gun as it seems, how can they possibly keep making movies that involve firearms in the scripts? Oh yeah, must be the $$$$.

      2. Putting aside justified killings in the line of duty, it is true that police officers commit more murders than carry permit holders.

      3. @Idadho Seems if they pee their pants when ever they saw a gun, they wouldn’t want to call a cop. Why would one gun be more acceptable than another?

    10. Just a check on your probability explanation. Each Powerball drawing is an individual and independent event, so buying tickets your whole life does not decrease the odds, only buying all those tickets for the same draw would do that.

      1. John Lott has the numbers for crimes committed by CCW permit holders in numerous states. It’s all in More Guns, Less Crime 3rd Edition. His research backs up everything this author wrote. CCW permit holders are far more law-abiding than the general population. In other words, the average person posting on the CSGV page is more likely to murder you than a CCW permit holder.

      2. However, your odds of losing 3,500 straight lotteries (approximately the number of weeks an average adult lives) is (175,223,509/175,223,510)^3,500 = .9998 or approximately 42,799/42,800, meaning that your odds of winning at least once are 1 in 42,800.

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