ID: Calls to Governor Otter for and against Permitless Carry 50-50

Governor Otter of Idaho with Justice Scalia
Governor Otter of Idaho with Justice Scalia

By Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten
Dean Weingarten

Arizona – -(Ammoland.com)- With the Idaho legislature’s permitless or “Constitutional” carry bill on Governor Butch Otter’s desk, I read a comment on the Idaho Second Amendment Alliance facebook page that seemed unlikely. It claimed that numerous disarmists were calling the Governor’s office to urge a veto.  From the ISAA facebook page:

SB 1389, Constitutional Carry, was delivered to the Governor’s office yesterday (March 21st) at 2:40 p.m.

That means today is the 1st of 5 days he has to act.

The gentleman I spoke with said that the calls were 5 to 1 againat Constitutional Carry. Bloomberg is clearly spending money to make it look like Idahoans are opposed.

Better step up your game!

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I called Governor Otter’s office to see what was happening with the bill, and what sort of opposition it was getting.   I was refereed to the Press office.  As expected, they are very busy because this is the end of the legislative session.  They are handling large numbers of calls on numerous issues.

Most of the callers are from out of state.  I was told that this was common on issues involving abortions, wolves, and guns.

On the particular issue of permitless or “Constitutional” carry, the phone calls are running 50/50 for and against.

The Governor’s office confirmed that they have until 2:40 p.m. on Saturday to veto or sign the bill.

If the veto occurs after the end of the legislative session, there will not be any reasonable chance to override the Governor’s veto, because the Governor would have to call the legislature back into a special session for an override.

I do not see that as happening.

Permitless carry passed the legislature with veto proof margins.  27-8 in the Senate, 54-15 in the House.  It has the endorsement of the Idaho Sheriffs Association and the Fraternal Order of Police.

The comments on the Governor’s facebook page are overwhelmingly in favor of permitless carry.  Here is a typical comment:

Chris Fullmer Governor Otter, please show that you uphold to Constitution by signing SB 1389. Do not be swayed by out of state influences like Michael Bloomberg who would try and control us. Stand true to your oath.

Governor Otter has a reputation as Second Amendment Supporter.  I will be surprised if he vetoes S 1389.  We will know by Saturday afternoon.


When Governor Otter signs S 1389, Idaho will be the ninth state to have permitless or “Constitutional” carry.  Seven states have restored permitless carry since 2002.  The eight states with permitless carry are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Kansas, Maine, West Virginia, Wyoming, and Vermont.

Vermont has had continuous “Constitutional” or permitless carry since statehood in 1791.  Alaska was the first of the seven states to restore permitless carry rights.

The right to carry concealed without a permit had been infringed and legislated away over a long period, and came in three waves.  The first was against slaves and freed black people from carrying weapons starting in the 1830’s.  The second wave occurred after the Civil War, or War Between the States, in the 1860’s to 1880’s against freed blacks.  The third wave was in the early 1900’s, and was directed against recent immigrants and non-whites.  In New York , it was done to protect organized crime.

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About Dean Weingarten;

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of constitutional carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and recently retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.