National Reciprocity Bill is “Apocalypse USA!” or is it “Armageddon” this Time?

By John Farnam

The Sky is Falling, the Sky is Falling
National Reciprocity Bill is “Apocalypse USA!” or is it “Armageddon” this Time?
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Ft Collins, CO –-(Ammoland.com)- “‘The Nation” will not be the organ of any party, sect, nor body. It will, on the contrary, make an earnest effort to bring to the discussion of political and social questions a really critical spirit, and to wage war upon the vices of violence, exaggeration, and misrepresentation by which so much political writing of the day is marred.” ~ “The Nation's” founding prospectus, 1865

Oh, that our modern media would even begin to adhere to such a motto!

A National CCW Reciprocity Bill has passed the House, and is currently headed to the Senate, where hysterical Democrats and their media lackeys, deriding the bill as “Apocalypse USA” (or is it “Armageddon” this time?), are closing ranks to destroy this legislation.

Democrats smugly made all the same dire predictions, time and again, when “shall-issue” state CCW legislation was passed, state-by-state. They screamed even louder when laws were expanded to include “Preemption,” “Take-Your-Gun-to-Work,” and “No-Duty-to-Retreat” provisions. And, when the “wild-west-bloodbath” they solemnly (and ever so self-righteously) predicted, never happened (in fact, violent crime went down, every time), Democrats suddenly developed ecumenical amnesia!

They apparently think the rest of us did too!

Democrats still reflexively attack, without exception, any and all pro-Second Amendment legislation. They always have.

Democrats should more appropriately be fearing both their congressional colleagues, and their sleazy media cheerleaders and apologists, who are being outed in droves as the serial women-abusers they are (and have been for decades, probably longer), instead of illogically fearing their fellow citizens, who desire simply to be able to lawfully own and carry concealed firearms in order to protect themselves and their loved ones from violent criminals.

Democrats seeking reelection need to worry less about shielding and protecting detestable criminals, less about “regulating” good citizens, less about characterizing themselves as “so pure,” and more about simply allowing good citizens to take reasonable measures to protect themselves.

“All truth passes through three stages: (1) Ridicule, (2) Violent opposition, (3) Acceptance as ‘self-evident’” ~ Arthur Schopenhauer

/John

About John Farnam & Defense Training International, Inc
As a defensive weapons and tactics instructor John Farnam will urge you, based on your own beliefs, to make up your mind in advance as to what you would do when faced with an imminent and unlawful lethal threat. You should, of course, also decide what preparations you should make in advance, if any. Defense Training International wants to make sure that their students fully understand the physical, legal, psychological, and societal consequences of their actions or inactions.

It is our duty to make you aware of certain unpleasant physical realities intrinsic to the Planet Earth. Mr Farnam is happy to be your counselor and advisor. Visit: www.defense-training.com

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CooaTotahK9
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CooaTotahK9

“It is in vain, sir, to extentuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace–but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me… Read more »

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

Love it, when that brass head shines! You have stated why private citizens like gunowner,s still have access to mostly and only out-dated weaponry such as ‘Guns and Powder’. Our private methods and weapons are hundreds of years old, the nation subverted. We are already moving into the inability to defend ‘Our Nation’ against this ‘New Tyranny’ that will last for a millennia rising fast from the POINT of NO RETURN in a ‘Brave New World’.

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

@ the Moderator:
My post – Listed December 12, 2017 at 6:51 PM follows the first post listed – December 12, 2017 at 7:47 PM here that is in response to my post.

How does this even happen?

Has anyone else notice this peculiarity as happens throughout this thread? How is [Jim Machlim’s] posts appearing randomly out of timestamp order out

James Andrews
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James Andrews

I’ve noticed some weird stuff here as well, when posting something.

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

[quote]Author: Nottinghill Comment: Well every red blooded American should have to take an oath. As I have done several times as both a civilian and with the armed forces… voluntarily. I’ll have to go back to ‘Who’s afraid but I do not think I said anyone should join anything. Groups cause group-think. Group think gets us to where we are now. Look at this straight…. I’m a member (NRA). Signed in to comment (NRA). I was redirected to a page asking if you or anyone else should have any (?’s) to click the the ‘Contact Us’ link. Which is broken…… Read more »

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

@JIM:You can’t turn carbon into a diamond without pressure you’ll still have coal. The aforementioned is for general site visitors users. I signed in to make mine personal. BTW Let’s stay on topic. This legislation/compromise does not serve all law-abiding gun-owners. Therefore IT IS bad legislation for procedural changes that can be done agency wide without LEGISLATING IT INTO LAW! Agency=Procedural enforcers The LAW for the 2nd Amendment was wrote long ago. They pass a BILL that contains RECIPROCITY INCLUDING NO FURTHER 2A INFRINGEMENTS (That serves ALL gun-owners) I’m all for it my friend!!!!!!!! P.S. To define ceding to you.… Read more »

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

My Socialists State of America had only one Rep. vote yes to this “We must do something because someone did something that we could stop in any case.” legislation. But I’ve had a change of position on this subject. I’ll support it’s passage of H.R. 38. Since where I live, H.R. 4477 basically already exists. I can say that without a doubt my US Senators will both vote against it. They are Socialist. But I would like to see what the heck they will do when outside state CCW holders are allowed to carry in-state but state residents suffer under… Read more »

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

@JIM: “No it does not REQUIRE a CCW/CCH. Do like Kansas, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming [and others] and get your state to adopt Constitutional Carry. HR 38 says ” OR ” when it says have a license OR be a resident of a state that does not require a license . Until 2010 the U.S. Second Amendment was not a restriction on state laws. HELLER & McDONALD fixed that and now the Congress can pass HR 38 in order to enforce teh Fourteenth Amendment. You can look them all up.” That’s nice Jim, but for those of us who have… Read more »

James Andrews
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James Andrews

ALl I know is that, historically, our Founding Forefathers intended We the People to always be able to keep and bear arms, and “bear” means “to carry”. It’s that simple. In my honest opinion, almost, if not all gun regs, are actually unconstitutional. That being said, I think most of us can live without a lot of people having access to full auto weaponry( machine guns). But everything else, we should be allowed to own, None of this banning crap for semi auto.s handguns, “extended” mags, etc. That’s all B.S., because Big Brother still has much more serious firepower than… Read more »

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

I’d like to have a Dillon M134 but I can’t afford $90,000 an hour to shoot it. Back abut 1890 John Browning converted a Winchester ’73 to full auto. The same system was used by Marlin to build the Potato Digger of WWI, John C. Garand used the same system on the first model M1 Garand rifles but that was soon changed to the port and piston operating rod. WWII Australia converted existing .303 SMLE bolt actions to semi-auto. The atomic bomb exists and building one is really simple, it is making one that will only go boom [big bada… Read more »

James Andrews
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James Andrews

I agree with your point about the people (us), being able to form militias, and be able to have adequate weapnry as well. That is obviously what the Second is all about.

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

Glad to help. I need to improve my proofreading and typing skills… seems that I have a problem typing teh, te, or they. 🙂

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

Large type and bifocals/readers will also help. But we still cannot see what’s not wrotten… I mean written.; )

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

I cannot rightfully believe that it actually takes two days to get your comments posted here at Ammoland. I signed-in at the NRA members page right now. Letting them know exactly (AGAIN) how I feel about this. I’m glad I decided to go year-to-year. I almost was suckered by the Lifetime Membership or above. weeeew!!!!

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

Nobody is being forced to join the NRA or SAF or GOA, your stated association or even several Fifty years or so ago, a person had to have a sponsor to join the NRA. Someone to verify that you were a good and trustworthy person. You had to swear an Oath to the Constitution. A note to the AMMOLAND moderators: A system that allows an opt in to receive forwarded emails without actual names or email addresses being divulged. I’d like to be able to contact Wild Bill or Brad Hobbs for instance without loading up the topic posts. That… Read more »

Nottinghill
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Nottinghill

Well every red blooded American should have to take an oath. As I have done several times as both a civilian and with the armed forces… voluntarily. I’ll have to go back to ‘Who’s afraid but I do not think I said anyone should join anything. Groups cause group-think. Group think gets us to where we are now. Look at this straight…. I’m a member (NRA). Signed in to comment (NRA). I was redirected to a page asking if you or anyone else should have any (?’s) to click the the ‘Contact Us’ link. Which is broken… understand? Which maybe… Read more »

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

We The People already have reciprocity,the Constitution is supposedly the supreme law of the land ,Enforce It.

Nottiinghill
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Nottiinghill

As I have been trying to across to some others here. How does ceding ground increase our lot?
It does not.

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

What is ceded? The only “new” thing in NICS is money to correct erroneous data names, to remove them from the list within 60 days. Now it takes a year or more to get errors corrected.

There are NO CHANGES to the list of “prohibited persons.”

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

HR 38 IS enforcement of the Second Amendment you want. Wake up.

Gordon Matthews
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Gordon Matthews

No it is not. It requires you to have a CCW which is unconstitutional!!!
Just saying,
Grampa 38

Green Mtn. Boy
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Green Mtn. Boy

Gordon
Correct,this covers it.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Jim Macklin
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Jim Macklin

No it does not REQUIRE a CCW/CCH. Do like Kansas, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming [and others] and get your state to adopt Constitutional Carry. HR 38 says ” OR ” when it says have a license OR be a resident of a state that does not require a license . Until 2010 the U.S. Second Amendment was not a restriction on state laws. HELLER & McDONALD fixed that and now the Congress can pass HR 38 in order to enforce teh Fourteenth Amendment. You can look them all up. BTW The Second Amendment only has one comma that separates the… Read more »

James Higginbotham
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James Higginbotham

have you ever heard of the dickact of 1902?
i think you need to check it out, it BETTER EXPLAINS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MILITARY, AND MILITIA.
and oh BTW, THIS ACT CAN’T BE REPEALED, AND NO GUN CONTROL.

James Andrews
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James Andrews

True, but we shouldn’t be allowing any states to pass laws that hinder the rights of the law abiding. At least we’re on the same side here. The problem is in Nazi states like New York, Mass, New Jersey, Cali, etc.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@GMB, You are correct, of course, but there is no profit in letting us be free people. The five wealthiest five counties in the US are the five counties surrounding Washington DC. I wonder why that is.

James Andrews
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James Andrews

Full of corrupt lawyers……in a way, that’s Ok though, because, should the “crap hit the fan”, then we’ll know where they are! And we can go after them one by one……

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@James Andrews, Five counties is a lot of hanging. Could be real work. Do you think the Iranians would take a check?
Merry Cartridges and a Happy New Rifle. Just a joke, Fat Boy Institute, just a joke!

James Andrews
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James Andrews

Funny…….but I think we’re on the same page…..

James Andrews
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James Andrews

It should be like that, but, unfortunately, some lawyers, and certain bad judges, have made this not the case.