Mask is Coming Off ‘Commonsense Gun Safety Law’ Disclaimers

What has changed about human nature, and the penchant of some for tyranny? (British regulars surrender to militia forces –Frederick C. Yohn Painting of the capture of Fort Sackville by George Rogers Clark PD-ART)

USA – -( “No one is talking about taking away your guns,” say those who claim “all” they want is “commonsense gun safety laws.” Someone forgot to tell them that some publications have opinion pieces belying that.

“To Repeat: Repeal the Second Amendment,” columnist at The New York Times Bret Stephens demands. He says “to repeat” because he’s it’s not the first time “the newspaper of record” has shared his sentiments.

The “repeal” sentiment gets more media play. A history professor ignorant of history endorses the idea in Rochester’s Democrat & Chronicle (“Part of the USA Today Network,” which considering its owner Gannett Publications, should come as no surprise.

“I've made it clear in the past that I want extreme measures in response to gun violence – such as repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution,” Law Professor David S. Cohen writes in Rolling Stone.  He has made that clear before, and wants others to join his crusade by “voicing these opinions.”

Plenty more examples exist to refute the reassurances that no wider disarmament goals exist. We’ve got examples from the past, from then Sen. Thomas  Dodd, author of GCA ’68 saying “I would be for abolishing all guns … I hope some day the world will say ‘Destroy them all,’” to Nelson “Pete” Shields, founder of Handgun Control, Inc.,  admitting his strategy to ban guns is to do so incrementally.

Add present-day Nancy Pelosi admitting she hopes any new concessions on guns help accelerate more edicts down a “slippery slope”  and Chris Murphy describing “bipartisan efforts” on “compromise” as “baby steps,” and it should be clear to all that the “concessions” all go one way and play into the hands of those who will not stop until they achieve complete citizen disarmament and an unchallengeable government “monopoly of violence.”

Actually, after that they’ll just be getting started. History is pretty clear on that.

Anyone who thinks concessions can be made and that will be the end of it is deluding both themselves (assuming they don’t know better) and anyone naïve enough to believe them. Every beachhead allowed or bit of ground voluntarily ceded allows those who want you disarmed to use it to launch their next incursion. To do so makes as much sense as throwing a scrap of flesh to a circling pack of jackals and expecting that it will satisfy them, and persuade them to leave you alone.

These are unsettling times for gun owners, as troubling as any I’ve ever seen. We need to remember that ultimately, we won’t lose our guns unless we as individuals make a choice to surrender them.

I know that’s unsettling to some, but really, isn’t it something we’ve always known?

Now, in the midst of all the sound and fury, with all the demands being made and all the temptations for some who posture as our “gun rights leaders” to resort to “pragmatic” concessions, I’d like to introduce (or reintroduce) readers here to an essay written decades ago that I’ve always found inspiring.

I urge you to read, take to heart and share my friend and colleague Brian Puckett’s “Memorandum on Arms and Freedom” and recommit to its central tenet:

“We will not disarm.”

About David Codrea:David Codrea

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

In addition to being a field editor/columnist at GUNS Magazine and associate editor for Oath Keepers, he blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

  • 65 thoughts on “Mask is Coming Off ‘Commonsense Gun Safety Law’ Disclaimers

    1. The bottom line with liberals is that they obsessively hate guns and hate the military in part for the guns they carry. So, to hear them join the two together and spout the lies about the AR-15 being “a weapon of war” or alternately “made for the military” weapon “designed to do one thing: kill as many people as possible.” I could say the same thing about big trucks like the one driven by a jihadi in Nice, France who murdered 83 people by mowing them down with a truck (and one that was not a “weapon of war” or “military-style” in any way). 83 people murdered by a truck is more than those killed by an Ar-15 in the Parkland and Pulse massacres combined.

      Remember what Dianne Feinstein said on national TV that if it was up to her, she’d say,”Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ’em all in” meaning turn in every last gun you own. Don’t tell me that Democrats want to confiscate all of our guns.

      Two points to remember:

      #1 The AR-15 has NEVER been used in combat
      #2 People all across Ameria use AR-15’s to hunt game every single day of the year.

      Liberals are totally ignorant about huns but especially regarding tghe ammo they use. You have morons like Lawrence O’Donnell who claims that arming teachers with handguns won’t work because a bullet from an AR-15 travels three times faster than a bullet from a handgun.

      First of all, there are plenty of variations in the ammo used in both an AR-15 and a handgun to where the speed differential can be twice as fast or less abd not three times – but, more importantly, the difference in the time it takes each bullet to hit a target 21 feet away is far less than the average response time of police officers. Plus, I can maneuver and fire a handgun mor easily and more quickly than I can with a rifle or carbine. These idiots only think about either one teacher being armed or all of them being armed: none of which are realistic.If only two teachyers were armed and standing on opposite sides of an active shooter, one of them is going to get off a few clean shots before the gunman has a chance to pivot around and acquire a new target.

    2. Re The Mask Is Comming Off, what Mask might this be, given that ultimate goals of the anti gun set are, and have been plain as the nose on my face. That aside, exactly what “hidden goals”???? have the antis been persuing lo these many years, goals that not only have been unchanged, but very widely advertised. There are people here who are awake to the facts of life. That said, I cannot help but wonder as to when, gun owners in general will wake up and smell the coffee.

    3. Wild Bill:

      Like some other academic types, the professor, weighted down by academic credentials seems to have forgotten that 2 + 2 still equal 4.

    4. “I’ve made it clear in the past that I want extreme measures in response to gun violence – such as repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution,” Law Professor David S. Cohen writes…” Cohen can not be much of a law professor because he does not seem to know that S.CT. case law states that the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is not dependent upon the Second Amendment. The RKBA is a prepolitical, individual, Civil Right that predates our Constitution.

    5. “I’ve made it clear in the past that I want extreme measures in response to gun violence – such as repealing the Second Amendment to the Constitution,” Law Professor David S. Cohen writes…” Cohen thinks that he would be immune to the death and destruction that would occur in response to the “extreme measures” that he advocates. If Cohen starts the wind, let him reap the whirlwind. But let the Anti-Civil Rights Movement begin the “extreme measures”.

    6. I’m amazed by the sheer number of progun people, including those on this list, who have been lured in by one proposed bandaid solution after another. We just heard from a person here “if they’d eliminate page three on the 4473, blah blah blah”. When do we, as professional, knowledgeable gun owners stop offering up the same panacea for these continuing problems, i.e., either more laws or addendums to existing laws? When do we say no more! Not one more law. You’ve had 50 years (don’t correct me there’s a reason we’re saying 50 rather than 83) and this gun control experiment has failed. Now it’s our turn and we demand that gun free zones in schools be repealed. If mentally disturbed people are so dangerous that they can’t own a gun then we want them taken off the street and treated. We demand that criminals be punished for their crimes not law abiding citizens who simply want to have the means to defend themselves and exercise their Rights.

      When will we stop giving in and compromising or will everyone find an excuse to just continue on? The time to say “No More” with a loud voice to politicians is long overdue.

    7. @Captain Bob: I believe in part that what you say is true. I know many LEOs and Military will cave to do the dirty work also. Especially since Bama lowered the standards of our military. But like you I am older but not too old fight an ex-Vet with skills in both combat and personal ones in the martial arts. I’m not running nor giving any of firearms in and will die to keep them in defending America not Amerika. So let them come. Let try passing laws. Let the NRA continue to cave. I will not!!!

    8. Why should America adopt a policy of near-zero tolerance for private gun ownership? Because it’s the only alternative to the present insanity. Without both strict limits on access to new weapons and aggressive efforts to reduce the supply of existing weapons, no one can be safer.

      Editorial, Taming The Monster: Get Rid of the Guns, Los Angeles Times, Dec. 28, 1993, at B6

      No presidential candidate has yet come out for the most effective proposal to check the terror of gunfire: a ban on the general sale, manufacture and ownership of handguns as well as assault-style weapons.

      Editorial, Guns Along the Campaign Trail, Washington Post, July 19, 1999, at A18

      There is no reason for anyone in this country, anyone except a police officer or a military person, to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun.

      I used to think handguns could be controlled by laws about registration, by laws requiring waiting periods for purchasers, by laws making sellers check out the past of buyers.

      I now think the only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns. And the only way to do that is to change the Constitution.

      Michael Gartner (then president of NBC News), Glut of Guns: What Can We Do About Them?, USA Today, Jan. 16, 1992, at 9A

      In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation.

      Charles Krauthammer (nationally syndicated columnist), Disarm the Citizenry. But Not Yet, Washington Post, Apr. 5, 1996

      My guess [is] . . . that the great majority of Americans are saying they favor gun control when they really mean gun banishment. . . . I think the country has long been ready to restrict the use of guns, except for hunting rifles and shotguns, and now I think we’re prepared to get rid of the damned things entirely — the handguns, the semis and the automatics.

      Roger Rosenblatt (Time Magazine columnist), Get Rid of the Damned Things, Time, Aug. 9, 1999, at 38

      A gun-control movement worthy of the name would insist that President Clinton move beyond his proposals for controls — such as expanding background checks at gun shows and stopping the import of high-capacity magazines — and immediately call on Congress to pass far-reaching industry regulation like the Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act introduced by Senator Robert Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey, and Representative Patrick Kennedy, Democrat of Rhode Island. Their measure would give the Treasury Department health and safety authority over the gun industry, and any rational regulator with that authority would ban handguns.

      Josh Sugarmann (executive director of the Violence Policy Center, Dispense With the Half Steps and Ban Killing Machines, Houston Chronicle, Nov. 5, 1999, at 45

      We will never fully solve our nation’s horrific problem of gun violence unless we ban the manufacture and sale of handguns and semiautomatic assault weapons.

      Jeff Muchnick, Legislative Director, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Better Yet, Ban All Handguns, USA Today, Dec. 29, 1993, at 11A

      1. Spoken like a true Liberal- don’t accept the responsibility for failed “support” programs that create portions of society dependent upon, and loyal to, those who create those programs in order to continue their positions of power and control over the uninformed. Don’t acknowledge the numerous cases of LAW-ABIDING, ARMED CITIZENS preventing acts of violence from turning into murderous rampages, or harming single individuals. Keep believing that Big Government is benevolent and will take care of us if we only relinquish a few rights in order to ensure our safety, that the police, as we see every day on TV and in movies, ill arrive in time to save us from harm.

        How many people were killed or injured recently in Japan by someone who was intent on doing harm, for whatever reason they had, using a KNIFE? Blame incidents like that on guns, too, as Liberals always do.

        Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as an “assault weapon”- that’s a term created by the media to vilify an inanimate object.. “AR-15” doesn’t stand for “Assault Rifle”- it stands for “Armorlite Rifle- 15”, the name of the original manufacturer- but that won’t matter to you- you’re already a closed minded “expert”.

    9. What Mask might be a most germane question, for were many sentiment adults ever deluded as to the real goals of these people? Please forgive a dumb question, to which there is an all to obvious answer, that being YES, some of the “deluded” having been movers and shakers at the NRA. As to how that happened, damned it I know, but it did happen.

    10. “I know that’s unsettling to some, but really, isn’t it something we’ve always known?”

      Isn’t it time the POTG start making the possibility of going all 1776 a very real threat? They’re only continuing to chant their foolish nonsense because someone hasn’t smashed the butt of a rifle into their mouth.

      1. @Ansel, Hazan, No, the timing is all wrong. War is won by logistics. If the POTG engage in armed rebellion, then the logistical capability of the US government would be used against them and all would be lost. Now, is the time to get the progressive/liberal/socialist/marxists to revolt.

    11. We cannot wait to defend our 2nd amend. The min., no the second the SCOTUS rules in favor of anti 2nd amend legislation we must rise to the call! We must be willing to sacrifice our lives for the future of this country! I have no doubt the people have the honor and heart to fight for our constitution and the other side will not have the honor or the heart to stand for anything if they could get hurt! My only question is who will lead the people in the name of the constitution? I pray it never comes to this. Well, I just pray, FOR NOW!

    12. Perhaps I’m unduly suspicious, however regarding “common sense gun safety laws”, much being said thereabouts, I find myself curious as to the exact definitions for, and the meaning of the terms bandied about, they being “common sense”, and “gun safety” laws. I await clarification from those who wave those terms about, though I must note that, while I wait, I don’t hold my breath. Think the requested clarification might appear any time soon?

    13. @Neal Storme: We don’t tolerate nor allow constitutional imbeciles here. Please go away… far, far away. Go back to your commie blogs!

    14. @Storeme – Keep your mouth shut and the world may think you a fool, open it and remove all doubt! Or put another way, You just can’t fix STUPID!

    15. Be honest, you don’t need that AR-15. Nobody does. Society needs them gone, no matter how good you may be with yours. Kids are dying, and it’s time to stop fucking around.

      1. And Neal, you don’t need a motor vehicle that will go more than the speed limit. People are dying on the highway, it’s time to get serious about that. They need to be gone.

      2. Then you don’t need two cars two pair of shoes ,no more than one tv and do you think they’ll stop at that you need to wake up ,people who trade security for a little liberty will have neither

      3. @NS, It is my Civil Right to decide what I need or want. You have not the Civil Right to decide for me. If you want to prevent “kids dying” then stop blaming inanimate objects and look for the real cause.

      4. Well the next time a cop shoots a minority, and the riots break out, and one of the operatives instigating the riot say – DON’T BURN DOWN YOUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD – (seed of thought broadcast coast to coast on CNN after both Baltimore and Milwaukee) – and your choice is to burn to death IN your home – or get beat to death OUTSIDE your home, you may just feel the need for a semi-automatic rifle with a 30 round magazine.


        In America, THEIR lives are no more precious THAN ANYONE ELSE’S!

      5. You don’t need a 450 hp. Mustang, nobody does. No matter how good you may be with yours, people are dying in these things. Wait, this is still America, so stop trying to tell me what’s good for me!

      6. The Bill of Rights is not a list of “needs,” but you are correct that firearms are actually not “necessary.” Neither are toothpaste, deodorant, fire extinguishers, auto/home/life insurance, or spare tires… but I have those things – specifically by sane, rational, intelligent choice. Unlike government-granted privileges (like automobiles), ownership of firearms is a natural (pre-existing) right… and it is Constitutionally-guaranteed to all law-abiding citizens. If you do not believe in, support, and uphold that Constitution, then which of us is “fucking around,” as you so eloquently and etherially stated?

    16. Our founding forbears KNEW the war was coming, and that it would be an armed conflict, the simple folkspopulating the colonies set against thetyrannical minions of the British Crown, and knew that for at least a coule of decades. Paul Revere was about 40 years old when he had himself rowed across the back bay out of Boston, his sister’s petticoat havinb been shaffled to muffle the oars as they had to go right under the counter of one of the fiercest battleships on the planet and not get caught. Years earlier, when he was sixteen, he had been called upon to bring a verbal warning to some men wanted for “treason” by theCrown, he riding many miles out of Boston to a large farm and refuge compound. He continued working as part of the resistance that was steadily growing in New England.

      Few realise that the “powder raids” mounted by General Thomas Gage’s men against Lexington and Concord, was the furth such raid he had initiated. THIS time the Colonials were ready and prepated. EVERY local militia gathered at least weekly for drill and training, building teamwork, preparing for the conflict they were certain was coming. We’re not quite to that point yet. Betimes I wonder if, and how quickly, we might come ot that.

    17. “We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest. . . . [W]e’ll have to start working again to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time. . . . The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition-except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors-totally illegal.”

      Richard Harris, A Reporter at Large: Handguns, New Yorker, July 26, 1976, at 53, 58 (quoting Pete Shields, founder of Handgun Control, Inc.) (boldface added, italics in original).

      1. and what he said is STRAIGHT OUT OF THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.
        and that’s their MAIN GOAL, JUST LIKE THE BRITISH TRIED.
        let me say this to all here as a THOUGHT, and it goes like this.

    18. @Paramedic70002: That’s the way it always goes, “so, you want us to compromise our freedoms? Well, what are you offering in return?”.

      The answer, throughout history, has always been perfectly clear, not a damn thing that is worth it!

    19. The Nazi’s pulled the Jewish’s “Teeth”, confiscating their weapons so they could not resist. Then systematically rounded them up for extinction. The PEOPLE and PATRIOTS of this Great United States WILL wage another civil war if need be when the Government TRIES to come and take away Lawful Abiding Citizens Weapons. The PEOPLE are empowered to keep the Government in CHECK. PATRIOTS like myself, only use my guns to shoot steel targets, paper targets, maybe a bean can once in awhile, and of course protect myself and my family from idiots, thugs and the like, that would TRY and harm me or my family. I would not hurt a fly, unless they are trying to hurt me. I myself would never want to harm OUR LOCAL Police or OUR National Soldiers. But when the Idiots in charge send them to forcibly confiscate OUR 2nd Amendment Rights, it would be a bloody battle just like OUR forefathers fought to begin this Nation and GIVE ALL of us the freedoms we have today. In this last shooting, it is very clear the FBI failed those KIDS in Florida. People need to get their Liberal HEADS OUT of Their behinds, and breath some of the FRESH AIR that ALL have fought and died for since the founding of this Great Nation!! ONLY REAL COMMON SENSE CAN PREVALE FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS!

      1. Nothing equals the value of freedom, yet so many will foolishly trade their birthright for a bowl of lentils. “You don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone.”

      1. I’ve heard that hint, as well. Scary. Actually I would not be totally against “Universal background checks IF, and only IF, they eliminated page 3 of the 4473 form. That is the page where the details of the firearm(s) that are being bought are listed (Make/model/serial number/type/caliber) and that is what the Feds are using as “back door” gun registration as we speak.Right now it’s just for guns bought from Dealers. This is little talked about but, if we have a background check for every firearm transferred, in a few generations the Feds will know the ownership/location of EVERY firearm and we all know what would come next.
        Demand that 4473 form page 3 be eliminated! It has NOTHING to do with a background check.

    20. I agree with all of the above comments.There is a good chance that a 2nd civil war is coming our way.With all the talk going on about expanded back ground checks and etc. When will all the talking and action stop? If there is a call to take your weapons away what will you do? Will you turn them over to what every police or federal police show up?Remember what happened in N.O. There is always a chance that if you wait for the police to come and you turn your weapons over to them they may kill you and your family.Just remember if this nightmare becomes real. There is no more law in this land. Use your best judgement. Turn over your weapons they could still shoot you and your family. Or you could fine other people like your self . Fight the good fight.Hit and run fight another day,

    21. The Ghost of Bill Cooper is crying tears of joy for all you here! Time to rid this nation of the funk of the Clintons, Bamas and communists!
      The Gov’t Agency Heads (FBI, DOJ, State Dept.), MSM and the US Congress are on D R U G S & SSRIs. They should be tested and then summarily fired.
      Starting with Feinstien and Pelosi then ending with Reid and Ryan.
      The ‘runny-ones’ with their liberal BS traitorous mouths and the Rinos too including those in Florida.
      We’ve known since Columbine that US schools needs no less than ‘TWO ARMED Guardians’ and/or teacher/staff, brave and trained in schools especially in the ALL Blue “No Gun Zones” Near the main entrances and exits!!!
      Two things will start ‘Civil War’ here. The communists or an attempt at gun confiscation. Wait one minute, those are kinda one in the same are they not?!

      P.S. The N R A was quick to jump on ‘bump-stocks’ but no where to be heard on ‘We Are Not Having It!’ with the lefts socialist gun grabbing talk. The GOA was johnny-on-the-spot as usual.

    22. If achieved, and that’s a very long shot, repealing the 2A will still leave ALL guns with the American people. Keeping and bearing arms won’t be a right anymore, but governments will still have to go and retrieve each one of them, the easy way or the hard way. Now, how is it that about 800,000 LEOs will be able to “retrieve” the over 300 million guns from an estimated 80 million Americans? They’ll probably have the upper hand on the very few initial days and kill some gun owners during raids. Then, with 100% certainty, they will be target of preemptive defensive missions by concerned gun owners, or be ambushed on the next mission, by people tired of seeing American families being executed during those raids, and all of a sudden, it’s game over. Or worst, it will be the beginning of a long war. How would any of that be an improvement over the current situation? Do they really seek a reduction in gun violence? Must be progressive thinking, an oxymoron.

      1. @M66…Alas many tongues will be loosened by paltry rewards, starting with the protesters on the streets now.
        Even If only for spite.

    23. Just say NO ! No more discussion,coming together,seeking common ground on the Second Amendment. That has resulted in the Second Amendment becoming the second class right it has become today. As Mr. Codrea put it “We will not disarm.”

    24. There will be a 2nd civil war , Before people disarm !
      Those that chose early to disarm will be the first dead .
      History has shown armed masses frenzied up over ,
      propaganda can and will do unspeakable to unarmed,
      people. Who don’t even care one way or the other ,
      about the plight their aggressor .

    25. 50 years and 22,000 gun laws later this failed social experiment called gun control continues with calls for “just one more”. Enough, time to stop what doesn’t work and repeal all those useless laws. Start with a clean slate and a clear goal in mind; you rape, rob, assault or murder with any weapon you go to jail and you stay there for a long time.

      In the case of the mentally ill, if you’re so mentally disturbed that you’re considered a threat to fly or own a gun, then you’re too dangerous to be on our streets and should be committed to a mental facility.

      1. you rape, rob, assault or murder with any weapon you go to jail and you stay there for a long time.

        This needs a bit of a revision.

        you rape, rob, assault or murder ………………….you go to jail and you stay there for a long time.

        There. Fixed it for you.

        It is never the tool used to rape, rob, assault, or murder. It is the heart of evil lurking within the perpetrator. THAT heart is what must be disarmed.

        If that heart is there, and the firearm is removed from the equation, next time out it will be a baseball bat, claw hammer, or bare fists… ALL of which are used to murder more each year than do firearms.

      2. @Vanns, I could not agree more. If the progressive/lib/socialists/marxists really wanted a safer society, then they would advocate methods that work, rather than blaming inanimate objects. Once the progressive/libs get people controlled, and have the reins of government then watch the executions go up.

    26. To make it know!
      The Second Amendment makes it a certainty that the Constitution and the Amendments will survive the momentary whims and fancies of the governmental Political actors who want the general population to be SLAVES to serve them.
      Let there be no misunderstanding, American Patriots who believe in the Constitution will NOT surrender our weaponry.
      According to the Constitution, We the People have the right to be equipped with the same weaponry as the armed army of the government.
      Let there be no restrictions upon the LEGAL LAW ABIDING CITIZENRY of Americans.

      1. @Laddyboy you said it, the Constitution and Bill of Rights will outlast these a$$hats. The documents have survived more than two generations of the same pests, but I think they are more zellious now than 200 years ago. Crime is much higher now, as well. That says there is more reason we need to be able to defend ourselves.Never give it up.

      2. Easy to say; Hard to follow through. Many young people, when faced with 20 years in jail and a $250,000 (which would wipe out most folks) will cave in and turn in their “banned” guns.
        It’s going to be the older folks, with only their life to lose and not a lot of that left, who will “stand and defend” the 2nd Amendment. I hope I’m wrong but I’ve seen this kind a boasting before but when the time comes they quit with a whimper.

      3. I forget who said, “We are only one generation away from slavery.”, but it is true. We need new and more powerful controls on our employees in government. And the younger generations must jealously guard their freedom.

    27. We will not go quietly into the night. This I pledge…my state of Washington is pushing some horrible ideas..if they pass the laws they are considering now I believe it will trigger something that nobody wants..we can’t shy away from it…we will need to prove to our ancestors that we are worthy of the name American…we law abiding citizens really just want to go to our families and friends…just like those who marched with bloody feet to valley forge…

    28. In the plethora of online discourse I’ve had the last few days, this is exactly what is being called for. When tjeybstary talking UK or Australia I ask them to just come out and say so if they are talking confiscation. Too mamy start off the conversation claiming not to want confiscation, them eventually concede that is exactly what they want bit only for “assault rifles’ until you prove to them that physics dictates the cosmetics of a semi-auto can have absolutely no influence on its lethality. Then they admit that all semi-auto need to be banned and confiscated. It isn’t hard to get the truth out of these people.

    29. That a man with the last name of Cohen should advocate stripping the populace of the means for self-defense…. I knew people who bore the tattoos of the concentration camps on their arms…

      At the recent town hall meeting of my state legislators in WA, those law makers made it clear that semi-automatic weapons were next on their list for restriction and/or outright ban.

      1. Jim, is the Washington State compaliance rate any better than it is Colorado or Connecticut?

        I think the top estimate is barely in double digits. There are lots of newly minted felons out there, and I can’t see it going well for anyone wanting to take away their arms or put them in jail.

        1. After NYS “SAFE” Act was passed, they expected 1.5 million registered firearms, less than 50,000 have been registered. Citizens will not willingly abrogate their rights under unconstitutional laws, even under the threat of becoming a felon. Our Patriots were traitors and fought under the threat of the death penalty. Ironically, these anti-rights people believe someone will enforce these bans. Who might they believe that would be, one of their own or those that possess firearms?

          NYS admits they don’t know who owns these weapons, have not arrested anyone for them and don’t know where to start. Good luck to these anti-rights groups calling for more infringements on our rights. They certainly do not know their history, nor what the words Lexington Concord mean to us.

          1. I grew up and lived for many years In NYC, gave up thereon in 1967. What it boils down to, in my view, is the following. For the wealthy and or the “connected”, government is there to serve. For the rest of us, the vast majority, government rules, andit rules poorly. I for one found this corrupt system less than either acceptable or desirable, ergo I departed and have not looked back. Of course, things do not seem to be moving in the right direction, that is government serving rather than ruling, which is in large part, the fault of Mr. And Mrs. Everyone. When, if ever, I wonder will the people wake the hell up?

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