When Just Owning a Gun Makes you a “Crazy” Person


Gun Violence Restraining Order
Gun Violence Restraining Order

Ft Collins, CO –-(Ammoland.com)- Implications of “mental-health purges” aka: “gun violence restraining orders” from a friend in a position to know:

“In the former Soviet Union, this was commonly known amongst the general population as ‘going crazy.’

Many a Russian thus suddenly ‘went crazy,’ was then visited by the KGB, and subsequently disappeared for prolonged periods.

Most were never seen again!

The State alone (KGB) decided who was ‘crazy,’ and who wasn’t, and there was no such thing as an appeal process, nor a ‘second opinion!’

After you were imprisoned, interrogated, tortured, starved, drugged, and neglected (sometimes for years), you might be returned to your family (assuming you had been broken sufficiently by their methods), when you managed to live through it.

As noted, most didn’t!

What liberal snowflakes in our generation don’t realize is that the exact same anti-gun laws they are currently promoting will be expanded and applied here, just as they were there.

After all law-abiding gun-owners have been eliminated, no leftist government has ever retained their ‘useful idiots’ after their ‘usefulness’ has been exhausted.

The only solace is in knowing that liberal morons will ultimately suffer the same fate as the law-abiding and brave.

No, you say? This law is only about taking the guns away from crazy people.

And yet, ‘crazy people’ with rental trucks, kitchen knives, fuel cans, screwdrivers, or even sharpened pencils are also dangerous, because they can easily murder ‘one person’ with their improvised weapons.

And, since these laws are about saving ‘just one person,’ we need to utilize it to its full effect and eliminate ‘crazy people’ from society, because they represent a threat, even without guns.

Don’t believe this?

The ‘Concluding Solution to The Jewish Question’ wasn’t the first law put into effect, but it was the ‘Final Answer,’ if you recall!”


With this on the horizon, there is all the more reason U.S. gun owners need to reinforce our practice of minimizing the number of people who know we have guns and are always armed. All this needs to be a carefully-guarded secret.

And, we need to be very careful about what we say, and to whom!

We’ve all crossed paths with enough disgruntled acquaintances, sometimes including family members, who might seek to harm us by going to some judge and insisting that we’re “crazy.”

“When they’ve taken your guns, then they’ll come for your sons.” ~ Jewish Partizan, 1939


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  • 45 thoughts on “When Just Owning a Gun Makes you a “Crazy” Person

    1. What kind of person hired crazy CBS anchor man Otis Livingston to work on television if he had bad views over CBS Leslie Moonves life calling him white carbage, unprofesional in business and even homo. Leslie Moonves must becareful of Otis Livingston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Our rino gov just passed this insanity in VT, formerly the best state (tho libnuts) in the 48 with the lowest rate of violence in the 48. The case that brought it up was a moron was posting on FB his plans to shoot up Fair Haven school. The cops got him first, and he was shortly later released because he had not acted on his threats, Now he’s back on the streets with gov approval. This happened after the gov had passed this law.

      What could possibly go wrong there?

    3. Stay quiet about being a gun owner? BULLSHIT!!! BULLSHIT TEN TIMES!! What ever happened to “Come and Take em’? What a bunch of pussified punks; – ready in a heartbeat to cave and give the anti’s EXACTLY what they want. It wasn’t but a few years ago Bloomberg, (or another one of those chyt-heads) said “we need to make gun owners afraid.” Fly under the radar strategy. Sickening!
      “History does not long trust freedom to the weak and timid.”–Dwight D. Eisenhower

    4. I think if they have their way they will sign the U.N. gun prohibition pact and the blue helmet thugs will be there to kick your door in. That is ok because it would be easier to shoot one of those jerks than a fellow citizen. Besides their helmets would make good target practice.

      1. I used to think that too, but now I don’t really think we’ll have to worry about UN jackboots at the door until AFTER most of us have been disarmed (so don’t comply). Look at what’s happening in China for the direction this may take. Given the huge amount of information that has been successfully compiled on each of us, it’s likely that refusal to comply will result in the freezing of your bank accounts and credit cards, revocation of driver’s license, and denial of the use of public transportation. In short, they’ll just shut down your life. The political class regards uniforms as expendable, so a SWAT team is a possibility. It will depend on an evaluation of the likelyhood that you will resist. In extreme cases, I would expect a drone to deliver a guided missile, and a news report all about the right wing crazy building bombs in his garage the next morning. These leftists aren’t going to give us sufficient provocation to resort to arms, neither will they give us a clear target, not so long as the war of lies and gradual attrition is working for them. Even tyrants learn from past mistakes.

    5. Who defines “mental health”?
      Who enforces those laws?
      Who obeys those orders?
      Who kicks down the doors?

      How can we “support” the enforcers of laws we oppose?

    6. Well must be my turn in the barrel .. only about half of my posts are showing up. try again the NRA announcer Col. Oliver North to be next president. Figure head or will he change things ?

    7. @Rich…or whoever, I would change it to I sold them to a man standing outside of the gun show. They could probably come up with all of the licensed gun dealers at any gun show. They would probably pressure you pretty hard for a date of said gun show.

      1. Comment…try this again…Better yet tell them you sold them to a man standing outside of a police buyback .

        1. I fail to recall the exact circumstances but it was something along those lines; my age is catching up to me…

    8. You may or may not find this hard to believe, but these attacks on our freedom aren’t anything new. I do not speak of other countries, or distant times. Almost on a yearly basis, laws are proposed in many states that seek to fund building “Mental Health” properties in isolated areas like Alaska, wherein those who have been labeled mentally ill are relocated. These are given euphemistic names to disguise their purpose. But so far these proposals haven’t reached reality. I belong to one such group that fights these while they are still in committee, and they are prosed every year. The onerous part is, of course, who decides who goes?
      The arrogance of the liberal left grows every year. They have reached the point wherein they feel they KNOW how sick everyone else is. The step from there to involuntary incarceration becomes smaller every year.

      1. @TF, Yeah, this next set of elections is going to be critical, again, and we have failed in GA and Penn, thus far. Even Az was closer than it should have been. If the boldness and number of the trolls that make their appearances, here, are any indication, then we have a long row to hoe.

    9. I recall hearing about the Soviet Young Pioneers being encouraged to turn their parents into authorities
      for non Soviet behavior. We are now about to experience the same behavior from our own family and neighbors
      for being gun owners.

      1. I believe that you are mistaken; it is my understanding that this was attributed to the Hitler Youth.

          1. Gentlemen you are both correct. Each group one far left and the other far right, both extremes shared a philosophy of dominantion of individual rights. Hopefully we’re not on
            a cusp of such rule in our country today.

            1. pjw – you were correct in stating that both gentlemen were correct but you erred in attributing one group to the left and one to the right – they were BOTH to the left – after all it was the national SOCIALIST party.

    10. Right now they are feeling out the water.What I mean buy that,seeing how many people will defend their self,or succumb to the confiscation of their firearms.If enough people start getting shot,there probably will be some different thinking.This law sounded good to start with,get the loonies of the street,but I think there has been more misuse than good.Once they see they can get by grabbing people’s Firearms at will,your going to start seeing more and more

    11. The 2 guns I had I sold to a licensed dealer at a gun show I paid cash to attend. So I guess I don’t have to worry about it.

      1. I don’t remember the what the writer had to say verbatim, but it went a little like this — ‘ First, they came for the man down the road and I said nothing. Then they came for the people down the block, and I said nothing. Then they came for the folks across the street. Again I said nothing. Then they came for me – and there was no one left to say anything for me. Perhaps you should go buy another weapon.

        1. Wild Bill, Rich.Poor.. I got the sense that his “gun show” narrative is a different phraisng of theold “tragic boating accident” so many others have mentioned……. TWO GUNS only? Yeah, right, and my pet chicken Henrietta is flying to the moon and back next week.

          When they “come for our guns” we will have a few options….. turn them over, turn SOME of them over (as the wise old residents of Warsaw did in Hitler’s day), deny ever owning any, give them some story that constituted “plausible deniability” andtell themyou have them no more….. until they FIND one, they will have no proof. Sort of like demanding you prove you were NOT at 123 Main Street last Friday evening about nine PM. One of two things will have to suffice for them: proof you were somewhere else at that time, or a plausible claim to that effect. Or tell them they will have to establish my whereabouts at that time.
          Rich’s Tall Tale presents a plausible account of what happened to the”two” guns gummit has record of his owning at one time. No requirement to register all, as we have with our cars, so there would be no requirement to record the transfer OUT of his hands. And make no mistake: THIS is precisely WHY they want to impose “universal background checks”, so that sooner or later, they will know who has every gun in the nation.

          What they fail to realise is that there are thousands, maybe millions, of guns that were purchased and are still owned by folks from back in the time before the long train of infringements, er, abuses, began. And many millions more that have changed hands legally in private sales before UBC came in. Then, ones that were “unlawfully” traded in spite of UBC laws, KNOWING there was no trail to the seller. We who own “no record” guns know which ones these are. And THOSE are the ones that will not be turned in.

          1. @Tio, Well, if I misinterpreted him… my apologies. As to the denials, or partial surrender of one’s firearms, of plausible deniability, remember 18 USC section 1001. Any untruth told to a government agent, no matter how small, is punishable by one year as a guest of the Fed. Bureau of Prisons and everything that goes along with that.

          1. I heard someone state, that if you think it is time to start burying your guns, it is time to start digging them up. I believe that the wording burying also would include the word hiding. A hidden or buried gun doesn’t do anyone any good. You will just go to the camps, kicking yourself on why you didn’t dig them up sooner when they kick your door in and snatch one out of bed. We truly do need a leader that will pull all of us together. If we do it one at a time, they will defame and shoot us one at a time. I think Trump has stirred the swamp and now the gasses are escaping and smelling up the air. The communists and statists are running to and fro for sure. I sure don’t know what to do and as I have to work for a living, I cannot even take time out to protest or fight against this deep state crapola, all I can do is vote and prepare.

            1. You could not have stated the facts anymore clearly. A unifying republican force is very much needed.

      2. @Rich…or whoever, I would change it to I sold them to a man standing outside of the gun show. They could probably come up with all of the licensed gun dealers at any gun show. They would probably pressure you pretty hard for a date of said gun show.

    12. I am crazy just ask my friends and neighbors. I have collected firearms my whole life and am a firm believer in the 2nd amendment. Crazy isn’t it. Feel free to report me to whoever you want. There will be many open job positions to be filled in the responding agencies. FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS is not hyperbole it is a fact for me and I suspect for a lot of other people. There is fast approaching a time of decision for all firearm owners in this country. Stand and fight or be a cuck and live on your knees and do what you are ordered to so long as you behave. I WILL STAND. The brave die once the coward dies a thousand times.

      1. Yawn. Another tough talking internet commando dork who will fold like a deck chair once the crap hits the fan. BORING!

        1. Clark are you referring to an impending gun confiscation? Of so this man has millions of patriots who will do what he has said. So keep your yawns for the finale. Y’all are yo much of pussies yo try a d take our guns

          P.s. nothing says a mouthpiece like a fake name.

        2. Oh goody, clark is back. I guess he got his phone booth up and operating. Wait a minute – – -here comes super dude to save us all.

      2. @Foot in, I applaud your enthusiasm, but what is your defense plan? If your defense plan is the Jim Bowie plan, then you will get yourself, your family, even your dog killed and your house burned down.

    13. Had a very good friend of 35yrs. who’s a LEO at ICE hit by a false GVRO by his live-in girlfriend in FL. Did know what was happening until the county police came a knocking at his door. Had to temporarily leave his own house. This put his job in serious jeopardy and his duty carry was suspended for one year. He had to be reassigned because of this kind of BS. He supported this woman and her kids whom he cared for deeply. She was a complete paranoid and a border line sociopath. This is the door to hell that ERPO/GVRO opens up to every CCW, Open Carry and gunowner in the nation. All it takes is some a$$hat anti-2A idiot or revenge seeker to make a complaint. There goes your rights and firearms.
      He had to show her and unfortunately the kids the door in the end. Broke his heart! Having to let the kids go like that hurt him really terribly. He’d raised them for almost ten years. Damn sad story.

    14. A recent incident in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania made the ‘News’ here. Pennsylvania is an ‘Open Carry’ state and a man was recently observed walking around the county with an ‘AR style’ rifle slung over his shoulder. Local police were aware and ‘allowed’ this until they received enough complaints from people observing this ‘behavior’. BINGO! – They hit him with a 72 Hour involuntary mental health evaluation and confiscated the rifle.

      1. Janek, what do they do of you are carrying a handgun? Now the person may have been making a statement but there are times that sensibility comes into play. Residing in the Peoples Un-Democratic Republic of Kommieforniastan my ONLY form of FU to the Marxists are my American Flags proudly flying. They don’t have a need to know diddly beyond that.

        1. “They” know, simply because it is a given that all of our posts here, much of the rest of our browsing history, the metadata from our phones, our voting records, and a list of our associations has been collected, legal or not. As a fellow resident of California, I can say that it is IMPERATIVE that all Left Coase conservatives show up and vote this time, in lock step. I hate to say this because I don’t like either mainstream party, but pick whatever Republican is in the lead, hold your nose, and vote for them. It’s life and death for the entire country, not just California. The Dems need 23 seats to regain control of the House, and they’re focusing on California to get them. If we fail to stop them, we will be getting that knock on the door at some point, and “from my cold, dead hands” will become a reality for all of us. As Mr. Farnam has illustrated, if we reach that point, there’s nothing else left to lose.

          1. @John Dunlap, I myself also reside here, reluctantly, in californicateus. You be correct. Everything done here, text, phone calls, all metadata is collected for reference. If you are a member of CRPA, GOC, NRA, 2nd Amendment Found., GOA, then we are automatically branded a terrorist. Not crazy, but one would think they go hand in hand. I reside in a small conservative part of cali, have perused the just mailed voting pamphlet, and it’s scary. Gavin Newsom makes it
            perfectly clear in his present tv diatribe…..socialized medicine, and total gun control. He also states that he sued and beat the NRA, but I’ll be damned if I could locate this lie. At this point, voting here in Cali, is a serious proposition, and scary. Frankly, after all is said n done, nothing changes here, and gets worse. I could go on, but you as myself see the big picture. Either party before long will be just one here. But, one must vote. Vote your consvience voters, provided you have one. Vote smart. Or it will be a big blue tide washing over us. Same for the Nation!

            1. I would say they are already one party, wearing two masks. They fight over control of minutiae, but the overall agenda is similar. The tools of the police state have been gradually put in place, the so called deep state has a turn-key technocracy practically finished, just waiting for the paint to dry. All they need now is a major land war to create the political momentum to activate it. Here’s one of the finishing touches, being attempted by two Republicans:


              How much would you like to bet that this “power” has already been used, at least occasionally? If someone is black bagged with no witnesses, no arrest report, no other public notice, it becomes a missing persons case. Even if there is a witness, without official acknowledgement, it’s a kidnapping. I find myself wondering how many Americans have already vanished into the night.

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