Loudoun County Va. Board Of Supervisors Meeting, RE: Gun Discharge Ban Update

Phyllis J. Randall and Kristen C. Umstattd
Phyllis J. Randall (left) and Kristen C. Umstattd (center) : Randal did everything she could to shut out the pro gun people. She moved that item to the end. The vote took place at about 10:15pm. (The meeting started at 5:00pm.) She moved everything else up to push the pro gun people as late as possible.

Virginia – -(Ammoland.com)- There was a large pro-gun turnout at last weeks Loudoun County Board of Supervisors meeting on an attempt to basically ban the discharge of firearms in the County.

Thanks to member Baraka James, who I authorized to read a message on my behalf.

The good news is the proposed ordinance was rejected, BUT the bad news is that they will probably look at other options in a future meeting. So one bullet was dodged, but others may be coming.

Member David Strafford sent me a summary of what happened:

The room was full of people with Guns Save Lives stickers. Very effective. They clearly dominated the room. There were 30 people signed up to speak in the evening.

There were a few Moms Demand people there — three sitting together and 1-2 stragglers. During the breaks, I chatted with the moms. It was a friendly chat. Most have been duped by the Moms Demand party line — “we just want sensible gun control, we don’t want to ban your guns.” Most were open to talking – and could see when gun restrictions make women and kids less safe. Oddly, I was the only person who chose to have a friendly chat with the opposition.

Ulmstadt’s amendment came up without a second and died. That’s the good news.

Phyllis Randal was adamantly opposed to any pro gun statements, shushing the crowd when they applauded Senator Black and Delegate Dave LaRock. At one point she threatened to have the deputies remove anyone who clapped.

Buffington, with Saines as a second, introduced a motion to study whether there could be ways to restrict shooting toward occupied houses. Initially, it was over any distance — which let them prohibit shooting west in Loudoun for fear of hitting a house in California. It came back to commissioning a study to look at what restrictions are reasonable, with input from the sheriff, the county attorney, and local shooting and hunting clubs. It also looked at moving lines to expand restrictions (currently Ashburn and east) to new high density places further west. Buffington wanted something of “limited scope” but it has the potential to become a real witch hunt.

Randal did everything she could to shut out the pro gun people. She moved that item to the end. The vote took place at about 10:15pm. (The meeting started at 5:00pm.) She moved everything else up to push the pro gun people as late as possible. She had a closed session before the gun related ordinance change. She shut the meeting down when people applauded — she said that she does that uniformly for everyone, but then let people applaud some breast cancer survivor support group.

Good: Ulstadt’s motion — which would have immediately amended the code to essentially prohibit shooting on anything less than 640 acres, almost all properties in Loudoun county — was rejected.

Buona, Higgins, and Volpe stood strong.

Buffington and Saines were pushed left of center by the shooting-ban lunacy. Not far left, but left.

BTW, the Loudoun County sheriff, along with the County Attorney, made a presentation. Apparently there were four people shooting. They were having a fun shoot with at least one automatic weapon, using a legally registered automatic weapon — not a bump stock. Many hundred rounds were fired by four shooters. 3 rounds escaped. They called the sheriff’s office before shooting and shot for about 30 minutes. One of the 911 callers called to say that they heard a round pass over their house.

The attorney said that 1) it was not clear which shooter fired the escaping rounds and 2) there wasn’t sufficient evidence to prove that they were being reckless. Both were needed to bring charges and he couldn’t prove either.

The questions that didn’t get asked were 1) if this new stupid code amendment were passed, would it have changed anything? Hint: answer = no. and 2) how much of Loudoun County would have been excluded per the stupid code amendment? They tried to get county GIS to answer the question, but they said they needed more time. Typical hasty legislation. Hint: answer = 99%+ of the county.

There will be more discussed at the next BoS meeting. Expect Moms Demand to be there. We need to make sure we outnumber them.


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all liberal communist women,who voted these crazy bitches into office!! i’m sorry how this sounds,women should never hold elected office,their way too emotional.


I understand your frustration but not all women are overly emotional. You should make an effort to befriend more women and, to use an old catchphrase, “raise their consciousness.” Help them learn the truth about firearms and the Second Amendment. Remind them that all government programs, no matter how good or important they are need to be responsibly financed. I have had many male mentors along the way that helped me see the world for what it is and die hard liberals for the fools that they are.

James B. Potter

Most of the women I know are ardent Second Amendment supporters. Please, let us not lump all women into the same camp as Pelosi/Waters/Clinton.
Thank you…


I wonder if they will have to pay Bloomturd back the money he paid them for this sham.


These are the future tyrants thinking they ride the moral high ground and you are just a brain dead subject needing someone to tell you what to do and think ,this crap of moving agenda items back to discourage the people hoping they would leave , cowards you see ,then saying they would have you removed because your thoughts don’t sync with theirs that govt building affords you the same rights as them ,your tax dollars maintain the building and those socialist wages

Wild Bill

@G-man, Yes, everyone take careful note of the kind of people that seek power, and fortune from power.

Missouri Born

Someone needs to send Randall a copy of Roberts Rules Of Order.


What makes you think she would read them, or be influenced thereby.