The Left – Losing Their Minds & Declining Into Violent Response

The Left Losing their Minds and Declining into Violent Response
The Left – Losing their Minds and Declining into Violent Response

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- At a recent Friends of the NRA banquet, one of the anti-gun protestors in a white pick-up tried to run over an elderly couple walking up to the event. Last year anti-gun protestors threatened to burn the Reagan Library to the ground with 200 pro-2A guests inside. These aren’t Antifa activists. These are housewives from Thousand Oaks, a bedroom community just north of Los Angeles.
In the past, these events were just shrugged off as the rantings of some whack-a-doodle leftie. Now we have the leaders of the Democrat party calling for violence. Things aren’t getting any better.

The left seems to think that calling for people to be killed and attacked is a good election strategy. A few years ago the left used swatting to harass those they disagree with; several people got killed by these actions. Now they are back in force and for some reason don’t seem to care about who gets killed.

The violence you see on cable is only the tip of the iceberg. Anyone who has organized or helped a Friends of the NRA event has seen the protests and death threats 1st hand. The sad fact is the left knows no boundaries, and hate drives them.

Remember the L.A. Riots?

Trucker Reginald Denny, Nearly Beaten to Death During LA Riots in 1992
Trucker Reginald Denny, Nearly Beaten to Death During LA Riots in 1992

The new face and leader of the Democrat party Maxine Waters called it an uprising and praised the gang banger thugs who pulled Reginal Denny out of his truck and tried to beat him to death. 50 people died during the riots, and the value of the buildings burned exceeded $1 billion. I was downtown during the riots. It was rampant looting and a block party. The breakdown of civilization that only ended when the “locals” realized that their welfare checks were not going to be delivered because the post office didn’t want their mail carriers shot at.

A recent poll shows that 59% of people fear violence from Trump haters. Here is a link to the Rasmussen article.

Why the link? So you can see the raw numbers for yourself. No spin no bias.

Lastly, remember James T. Hodgkinson?

The man who shot up the Republican congressmen practicing for a baseball game. He fired more than 60 rounds before law enforcement stopped. He met with the DNC and members of Bernie Sander’s staff the day before the shooting. The FBI concluded he acted alone. Still – he had enough ammunition to wipe out all the GOP congressmen present. He hated an idea so much he threw away his life and caused immeasurable hardship to many. Why all the hate?

I was going to end this article with a call for all of us to learn to get along, to remind everyone that the ties that bind us are more than the ideology that tears us apart. The fact is I cannot do that. I like most Americans in the poll above don’t believe the left is peaceful, rational or sane. The left in America views anyone who they disagree with as evil; and an evil that must be destroyed. In other words, they’ve lost they're minds.

Practice weekly, I’ve always shot once a week or more, but now there is a purpose to my shooting. Add a battlefield quality rifle to the mix with a respectable supply of ammunition. A bug-out bag should live in the corner of your bedroom, and there should be extra water and a trauma kit in your car.

We may be the targets of the left, but I’ll be damned if I am going to be their prey.

Honestly, I hope not to need these things. I advise you to prepare them all the same. I hope you never need them either.


About Don McDougall

Don McDougall

Don McDougall is an NRA instructor and member of the Los Padres “Friends of the NRA”committee. If he’s not at the range you will find him setting the record straight with on gun issues and gun safety on AmmoLand Shooting Sports News.

  • 114 thoughts on “The Left – Losing Their Minds & Declining Into Violent Response

    1. A lot of very interesting, and, very troubling comments here.
      I largely agree with the editorial piece. Especially the points made about being prepared. Far too many underestimate this.
      Nobody can prepare for every scenario. But, if you’re living in a metro, or urban locale, do make preparations someone else, more rural. If for no other reason, than to buy yourself time, if/when TSHTF.

      1. @Don

        Quite correct, no one can prepare for every scenario. So what you do is prepare for the Worst Case Scenario. There is no reason for anyone not to educate themselves to prepare for their own future other than laziness. It’s not underestimation, or even lack of funds. Everyone should at least have a basic plan for how to get themselves and their loved ones out of harms way. What this has become is the story we were told as children, and the choice we have to make to be either the ant or the grasshopper.

        God bless, and safe shooting.

    2. @Trevor Mayo…..I thought you were my four year old…your thought process is so much like his. But then you already knew that right turd?

      1. @Capndad this Trevor Mayonnaise is beyond delusional. He is as crazy as a shit house rat and just as dirty. Commie News Network loves him to death because he is one of their star subscribers and tries to act like their “broadcast Stars”.If he believes what he says he could just keep it to himself and his comrades because he is not going to get anyone here to swallow his bile.

        1. @Trevor Mayo,

          I’m going to fill you in on a little information, but first the reason Trump supporters are so stuck in the mud and obstinate about supporting him is because individuals such as yourself are screaming at them and verbally attacking them at every turn, so they dig in and refuse to budge an inch. Your comment, as such, shows you are very good at reiterating talking points that have been fed to you for political purposes, but inept at understanding anyone who has a different point of view to yours. Now, onto a little factual information.

          A. Obama alienated our allies
          1. He slapped Britain in the face by sending back the Churchhill bust.
          2. He interfered in elections being held in Israel during his last term
          3. He spent his first term traveling around the world apologizing to our enemies and telling them America is evil.
          4. He turned his back on the Ukraine when Russia invaded Crimea
          5. He colluded with Putin four years before it was popular to do so, “Tell Putin I will be able to do more after the election.”

          B. Taxes
          1. He browbeat American business owners and Entrepreneurs claiming they don’t “Pay their fair share” and “You didn’t build that” These actions led to increased stagnation for our economy.
          2. Increased regulatory taxes on business led to widespread Wage Stagnation which was multiplied by the aforementioned lackluster economy.
          3. ObamaCare, Single biggest hike in taxes on all americans, largely impacting the poor through increased payroll taxes, but targeting young low income wage earners the most by taking money from them to pay for others. Great policy, tax the poor and the people who made good choices about their health.. Only Obama…..
          4. Current Taxcuts made last year have turned the Economy around, brought in four percent unemployment(Real numbers under Obamas terms averaged 8-16%), and a boom in economic spending and repatriation. Combined with the elimation of the individual health mandate the effect has been More low and Median income families are taking home more of their money each week in their paycheck that is not being held for taxes, a complete reverse of Obamas ideas.

          C. Obama Imprisoned children
          1. Most of the pictures you have seen that have been legitimate and unstaged pictures of children being locked up at the border were taken in 2013 and 2014. The Blaze and MercuryONE covered this back in 2014 and couldn’t get anyone in the mainstream media to pay attention. If it is such a problem for you now and worthy of overthrowing a “Tyrannical president”, Why weren’t you calling for the same against Obama?
          2. The Number of Children Detained by Trump is half that of what Obama detained. HALF! Again, where were you then?

          D. Damage to farmers
          1. Inflation (The silent Tax) caused by Obama’s Print and spend policies along with increased regulation hurt farmers as well. They receive less money for what they sell, and that money buys less on the shelf.
          2. I don’t even want to talk about the policy of paying farmers NOT to plant crops in good fields for the sake of “Climate change” and artificially manipulating market prices.

          E. The EPA
          1. The EPA has nothing to do with the lands we as sportsman hunt and fish on, at least until Obama got ahold of them.
          a. Tried to usurp authority to control private property under the guise of “Waters of the United States” via any puddle on said land
          b. Ruled commonly used hunting ammunition as harmful to the environment and banned on federal lands, requiring hunters to use substitutes costing as much as ten times more, while having decreased effectiveness.
          2. The EPA, Under Gina McCarthy caused the Silverton mine disaster, which leaked into the Animas, the San Juan, and The Colorado rivers and devastated wildlife and countless communities.
          a. In addition to that spill, because the San Juan was poisoned with heave metals like arsenic, cadmium, beryllium and mercury running through several lands home to Navajo tribes, they tried to send in Well Disposal tanks to get them fresh water. Problem, the tanks were contaminated with oil….

          Now, I highly doubt that you took the time to read and consider everything I wrote here. In fact, I am betting you didn’t because doing so would mean having to confront your own hypocrisy. What you view of right now as insufferable, remember that it was people like yourself that put others through eight years of being belittled, spit upon, and stepped on with the idiot du jour you put in the whitehouse back in 2009.

          As of right now, you are probably trying to think of some retort you believe to be witty yet at the same time demeaning for my arrogance and insolence at having challenged your comment in such a way that ultimately destroys it and exposes you as a hypocrite. That being the case, allow me to end this comment with this next paragraph, and if you have indeed skipped over the vast majority of this because you cannot handle the facts, then this paragraph is the one you should read in full.

          I don’t care who you elect, how many politicians you put into office, or whatever laws they pass. I’m not going to comply with any of them. That means, if you like them, you are going to have to be a tyrant to try and see those policies enforced. Currently, you are trying to tell me that as long as I’m a good little peon and do exactly as you on the Left tell me to do, then you will back down. Here is my answer. To everyone on the left who feels that way, go home and cry to mommy, figure out a way to pull your heads out of your collective sphincters, and then go pound sand. I was and still am a never Trumper because I am a Constitutionalist, but if any one of you idiots tries to pull off a coup then I will be there to oppose you with my scary black rifle, my scary shotgun, and a copy of the constitution along with several millions of others just like me. If you don’t like our Constitution or the liberties it protects for all citizens equally in spite of your opinions, then get out. Leave America, you are not wanted here if you think like that. If when the next president comes along and he happens to be the next Idiot du jour that you just happen to like and you feel that Tyranny is suddenly ok to achieve your goals, that scary black rifle and shotgun will still be here when you and they try to force your opinions down our throats, and they will be loaded and ready. Turning a blind eye will not make people like me go away, and if you force the issue and turn to violence and thuggery, then you will pay the price.

          As it stands right now, My children, grand children, great grand children, and great great grand children will be paying for the idiocy of lying morons and hypocrites such as yourself. You are not welcome here, and I know you for what you are.

            1. @Wild Bill and Huapakechi

              He still has not answered the question I put to him, but instead tried to brush it off. I just wrote another detailed response to the one he made this morning, but it may take some time to clear moderation. Anyway, we already know what he is and why he is here.

              In any event, I wanted to ask if you remember that left wing progressive idiot that I decimated a while back, the Canadian calling himself Geoff Smith, AKA “The Historian”. You know, the nutjob with the “Secret cypher” and a vision from ancient Aliens he claimed gifted only him with the knowledge and authority to teach us unworthy americans what our constitution really means and how it should be used to oppress and control us? Had the whole article he wrote up on Medium that he was trying to claim was a legitimately publicized source until I outed him as being the actual author and sent him running away crying?

              Trevor sadly reminds me of him.

            2. @Rev, I’ll get T Mayo to come back for you: Spelling Lesson:
              The last four letters in American……… I Can
              The last four letters in Democrats…….. Rats
              End of lesson!
              Remember, November 2018 is to be set aside as rodent removal month.

          1. You write a lot but read little. I am Canadian. I never said I was american. I never said Obama was good. The original thread was about the American left militizing. You people on ammoland.com have repeatedly shown by your own words that it is the gun toting right that is militized and talking confrontation.

            If you couldn’t understand before, I’ll use smaller words. Americans are heading towards a civil war because you can’t see the other’s side. The people reading this right now have so much hate and fear in their hearts that they will sell their soul to the devil to try to wash away obama. I checked, you can’t even find this thread on the main site, it’s only the angry and frustrated who need voice to their pain that remain. I hear you. I feel your pain. I’m trying to understand it. Time will tell who is right about Trump but ALL Americans should take a second to ponder how far they are willing to let their country slip towards civil war.

            Again, nothing I said is hateful. Nothing is insulting. Definitely no name calling (because that is immature and trumpy) I have come to you with understanding and compassion in order
            to help bridge your divide. You are not alone.

            On being American: “Much has been given us, and much will rightfully be expected from us. We have duties to others and duties to ourselves; and we can shirk neither. We have become a great nation, forced by the fact of its greatness into relations with the other nations of the earth, and we must behave as and be seen as a people with such responsibilities.” Teddy Roosevelt

            Think of Pearl Harbour. Trump is going to start a war with someone in order to be a wartime president. He will not give up the office, even after 8 years, because he likes the idea of dictatorship and absolute power. He said so with his praise of the other dictators he has visited. Every stage of Trump’s life has been about what he can amass for himself. He is not in this for the American people. You can see this by how he tries to divide you.

            Remember 911 when Canadians took into their homes thousands of American families from the grounded planes. Remember your Christian values that giving is better than taking. Don’t give in to your hatred. It leads to the dark side. Once you go down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.
            Name callers are bullies. Bullies are bad. Don’t be bad or everyone will see it.
            Be the light. Open your hearts. EVERYONE stop fighting each other. Except Trump cause he’s the antichrist. Look it up. #trumpisantichrist

            1. Trump is the antichrist? You say this after the clinton and obama administrations? Your delusions run deep.
              Your main complaint seems to be that Trump calls things like he sees ’em, and does not back down (or bribe) the opposition like clinton and obama.
              As to “division”, The American right does not engage in a pittance of the categorization and discrimination of the left, and the policies instituted by Trump has invigorated just about every aspect of our society with the exception of academia and the rent-a-mob “occupy” liberal attack dogs.

            2. @Trever Mayo

              “Writing a lot but reading little”

              I get that you are Canadian, we get them here quite often. Some who are intelligent and genuine, and others who try to talk down to Americans in order to push their left wing views. Now I did go back and reread the comments of yours that I read before, and missed where you specifically stated prior to this that you live in Canada. The closest you came was when you said “When I walk down my hometown streets, no one has a gun.” before referencing other countries gun control policies (Failed policies at that).

              Now, I don’t care about anything you say. Instead, I looked at your actions and judged you based on them and whether or not they matched your words. Here is what I found.

              “I have come to you with understanding and compassion in order
              to help bridge your divide.”

              This is a direct quote from you, urging America not to delve into civil war and to not practice violence and hate. The irony behind this is that you continually call for violent insurrection and a Coup against a legitimately elected official with a term limit simply because you cant stand him. I said it before, and I’ll say it again. I know you for what you are, a liar and a hypocrite.

              “I reread my posts and there is nothing hateful or ignorant in what I said.”

              Really? So claiming to need to dumb down your language for others you don’t like for pointing out your hypocrisy doesn’t count then? Or what about the spiteful and denigrating comment you made about all the people you disagree with here that they suffer from “White privilege”, because of course when your arguments have no merit you can always call the other guy a racist! I said it before, and I’ll say it again. I know you for what you are, a liar and a hypocrite.

              I could go on and on, but the point is that at every turn Your words are at contradictions with your actions. The claim that you want to help understand is a lie, because you yourself are not making any steps towards understanding me, at the same time you are telling everyone here “You idiots refuse to accept anyone elses view since it isn’t yours so you just (insert hateful comment here)”. I said it before, and I’ll say it again. I know you for what you are, a liar and a hypocrite.

              I understand you are a left wing progressive, and completely ignorant of just what those here on Ammoland are dealing with, or their viewpoints. The fact that you think to label the Right as Militarizing is laughable. For us, we are just exercising our constitutionally protected inalienable rights, which is something that reading through your comments aggravates you(your use of adjectives to describe your own viewpoiints as moral and correct opposed to others proves this). All the right has ever been saying was “Keep the Government out of our lives, stop trying to trample on our rights, and stop trying to force us to conform to someone elses opinions. Do not oppress us.”

              Since you did not understand what I was saying before, I will say it again. You weren’t speaking up when all your grievances with America were going on six years ago. You only care about it now since the people you prefer are no longer in power and unable to push laws in America which have nothing to do with you onto American citizens who just want to be left alone to live their lives as they choose. Meanwhile, how many of your comments have been directed at the Left and their Violence? Where are you criticizing ANTIFA for showing up at protests specifically to engage in violence and intimidation tactics against people for the sole reason that they hate that they are allowed to disagree with the opinions of those in ANTIFA? Why are you not condemning them each time they flip cars over and light them on fire, advise members to carry knives and “Slash” anyone on the right, or putting explosives in glass bottles and hurling them as makeshift grenades? Where are you on that one prior to now? There is another rally for Patriot Prayer coming up on August the 4th, and already those on the left are calling for and planning on showing up to perpetrate violence and intimidation on any who attend. You see, you don’t actually care about stopping a civil war. You said it yourself, you want those of us here to just shut up and capitulate to left wing violence “And the left will back down if you do.” Your words, your actions.

              I said it before, and I will say it again. I know you for what you are, and you are a liar and a hypocrite. If you live in Canada stay there, and sit down and shut up. We live in America, and we are never going to do what you want us to just to make you happy and appease your opinions. Simple as that. We stand with our Constitution, not just as a “Good Idea”, but because it is the law of the land. Tough luck.

            3. @ Trevor, you sure let the cat out of the bag this time. You are a SUBJECT of Trudeau and the Queen. You have no independent thought processes because you are told exactly what you can do and what you can and can’t have. If I had known a few days ago this was the case I would not have wasted my time commenting to you. You are a snowflake and no amount of talk is going to make you any smarter. Go save your Queen.

            4. @TMayo, Stop right there at “I am Canadian” everything after that is moot. Not your country. Not your issues. You have not standing to complain. Go back to being a subject… what ever it is that they do.

          2. Sir, I’ve been told by many that I am good and that I have skills……..but YOU…..you are frgn good!!! Probably the best I’ve ever seen. I’m glad that you are on my side of the political spectrum.

            1. @Mitch

              Its not about being “good” or having skills. Its about what is true and being consistent. These are the metrics that everyone should use, and when you do it becomes easy.

              1. Evidence proves fact, Fact shows truth. The evidence has to be real and concrete, hashtags don’t cut it.

              2. Consistency.. Acta non verba. Do our actions match our words? Those willing to engage in hypocrisy to further their own desires always lose in the end.

    3. Question. If the second amendment was intended to overthrow a tyrannical government, why the hell havn’t
      the citizens of the US overthrown Trump?
      He alienated your allies. He cut taxes for the rich. He supports Putin when his own intelligence says they interfered.
      He imprisoned children. He caused 12billion devastation to US farmers. He destroyed the EPA and thus the natural
      wild spaces and wild game (every recreational hunter should be freaking out) .

      Calling someone a snowflake is not going to fix what he did. Turning a blind eye will not make it go away. Your children
      will pay the price for his idiocy. Take out Trump and the left will back down, guaranteed.

      1. Are you using those refractory eyeglasses that turns everything upside down?
        Alienated allies have been freeloading on the U.S. since the end of WWII. Demanding that they “pay up” on the monies they have contracted to provide for NATO is not the wimpish foreign policy of previous administrations, so suck it up. We now have a PRESIDENT rather than a professional politician.
        As to “imprisoning children”, you raised no objection when the “o”boy administration began the process. When the issue was raised, Trump rescinded it.
        The $12B hit to American farmers is a myth. In case you have not noticed, the EU has backed down and exports of soybeans should pick up immediately. China has been stealing us blind for years. Calling them out and demanding fair trade will eventually benefit everybody.
        Anybody who has lived West of the Mississippi has felt the dictates of the epa and the department of interior/bureau of land management. Their management of the lands and natural resources has often crossed the line from merely inept into criminal. The examples are a matter of public record.
        Your rant has exposed your bias. When did ANY of the presidential administrations of the past thirty years accomplished a tithe of what President Trump has done in less than two years?

      2. Trevor; please forgive me, but I gotta tell you a few things. I just finished reading several of your posted comments. If only you could see the sh!t eating grin on my face at this moment! Boy I’ll tell ya……the reason that I started off asking you to forgive me, might just come into focus for you in the next paragraph.

        I don’t typically go around judging people; not on any kind of conscious level anyway. But truth be told, we probably shouldn’t deny the coarser elements of our character because that is a superfluous endeavor, eh. So human nature being what it is; I’ve had some time to come to a conclusion about you. It doesn’t bode well for you Trevor. Unless perhaps in your own separate reality; pettiness, finger pointing, dishonesty and zero moral compass are looked upon more favorably than in mine.

        So here we go. I’m getting to the juice of my comment right now. Based on the pattern of your behavior, the methodology behind your illogical rants and your own prose (yeah, you have one and that was my singular positive insight about you Trev), as well as your inability to process any feedback from the many comments that you posted on this message thread……
        “A”- You are at your core, a troll; a good troll at that. A very experienced TROLL! Probably one of the best we’ve seen around here since our guy DJ Trump kicked yer ass. Again, I digress.
        “B”- I envision a 40-ish fat-boy, Ben & Jerry’s in hand as you read this. Am I right? C’mon man….you gotta say sumthin to confirm or deny! ”
        C-” Be careful now….it’s getting late and you need to control your liberal….scuse moi, I meant progressive
        (with a cap P) temper, lest you wake up Grandma; in whose basement apartment you reside. Rent free right? lol- You see, in the short but information filled profile of Trevor Mayo (That your real last name?), there are so many character defects present and not really any character attributes to speak of…..very sad.
        “D” If my favorite pundit with his incredibly strong mind was here with me, talking with you in person (RIP Charles Krauthammer); I could see you acting like an 8 year old. Cutting him off mid sentence, raising your voice in spastic displays of an undisciplined mind, arguing the most baseless points, squeezing the wrinkles of your brain trying to make up some really, really good bullshit to counter his brilliant logic, etc, etc.

        So to summarize quickly- I don’t like you. I don’t think highly of you, nor do I respect you. Trevor, I’ve learned about human nature the hard way. I was born (Feb 1960) and raised in Canarsie-Brooklyn, NY. I grew up in a Jewish family that voted democrat, back when it was the democratic party. A good thing in a 2 party system where we all wanted to steer our future towards the same goals/place but differed on the ways, who, what, when, etc. to get there. At least that’s the way my 58 year old self saw things growing up. But in my youth I saw things about me that I didn’t like. So I changed them. You’re talking with a nice Jewish boy who enlisted in the USMC to serve his country and grow up a little. I joined the NRA and the American Legion shortly after mustering out of the Corps. I did that because I believed in them, what they were all about. The American Legion is awesome because it is non-political or bipartisan and they do an awful amount of good for America and obviously for veterans. I joined the NRA because I believe in freedom. All the amendments are important, none more than any other. You guys on the left don’t understand why your ant-gun freedom schemes don’t work. I’m going to tell you in one sentence why. I hope you guys meet up at the local Saul Alinsky beer hall and converse in great detail this one simple truth. We freedom loving, law abiding, tax paying, hard working, devoted to family, G-d worshiping Americans happen to like our firearms more than you freedom robbers dislike them. That simple Trevvy. 🙂

        1. The thing I believe most about what you said is that you grin when you eat shit.
          I reread your post a couple of times to try to figure out your point, but it seems to rest at you not liking me. No one cares. I don’t know you. You don’t know me. Your list is in your imagination.
          “What’s that ma? Out of ice cream? Well go get my gun and bring it downstairs then!”
          (Expert troll talk, guaranteed to upset you)

          Seriously, I reread my posts and there is nothing hateful or ignorant in what I said. The facts about trump I listed are facts. Kecki’s spin on what I said does not refute my statements. His rebuttal only puts a wishful angle that time has yet to reveal.

          Regardless of how passionate you are about guns, the way in which gun lovers tune out statements like, “No one wants to take away your guns.” And turn it into “the left wants to take away my guns” is rediculous.

          I don’t care about your life story. No one does snowflake. And that is probably the point. Part in parcel to the two party system in American politics. You only care about what u think and anything else is …… (insert hateful comment)

          There is common ground though. Protection from bad guys and not wanting to get shot are two sides of the same coin.

          To the person who wants to protect his kids:
          Your kid is just as stupid as every other kid because he is a kid. He will take your gun out and look at it out of curiousity, definitely when you are not home. He may take it to school. He may blow his younger brothers head off accidentally.

          Rules came out of tragedy. Sensible gun laws and restrictions came from idiots doing the wrong thing and hurting people.
          Defending your constitution is a fantastic idea but the reality is some soccer mom pulling her piece out of her glove box and shooting a Filipino maid for cutting her off in traffic.
          If that soccer mom didn’t have a lethal option 2 feet from her perhaps she could take two breaths and let things go. But because it’s her “right” to have, it’s her go to for use.
          Human nature is more powerful than your rational arguments. If a criminal is willing to trade his life for yours, it’s going to happen. Isn’t god on America’s side anyways?

          Another question:
          Do gun owners shoot their friends?

          So instead of argue with 50% of your country, why not be friends?
          So instead of alienating allies, why not strengthen your ties with allies?

          I get it, 50% of your country thinks things are so messed up that EVERYTHING should be torn down EXCEPT gun ownership. Perhaps it is the gun ownership that is the problem. Again, I don’t want your guns. I don’t want to TAKE away your guns either. But as I walk down the street in my hometown I don’t fear that I will be shot because no one (% of population) has a gun on them. Same in Australia. Same in UK. Obviously shit still goes down, but it’s the exception, not the rule. (Toronto recently) The gun violence in the states starts with gun ownership. If you want gun ownership without crazies then you need rules. For example, no guns for wife beaters. Sensible and backed up with facts. If you want real peace in your country you need to take steps toward each other. No pick sides against each other.

          Trump is devisive. His only goal is to make money for himself. He is not a friend to anyone, especially the American people. Shouting “lock her up” about a retired grandmother is a shell game to distract the uneducated Fox viewers from his own shady dealings. Don’t fall for it.

          Do a quick search on “trump is Antichrist “
          Born from the east.
          Riding a white horse.
          American evangelicals know and love the idea of the end of the world because they get to go to their god. The end IS near and it is fueled by intolerance and hate, but implemented by guns and weapons of mass destruction. It always starts small.

      3. Dear Tremmor M, Our, yours and my, Second Amendment enshrined and enumerated Civil Rights are intended to over throw a tyrannical government, why don’t you give it a try?

    4. Why would any gun nut assume non gun nuts would be reading this site?
      Americans telling other Americans to pick a side is leading your country towards another
      civil war. I was looking for some useful information but found only hateful trolls with
      truckloads of white privilege. SAD.
      Honestly, I assume most of the people messaging on this site are Russian operatives
      trying to destabilize your democracy. Good luck with all that.
      Ps. That NRA spokeswoman is evil. Like Satan evil evil. Just sayin

      1. You exemplify the loony left.
        Those of us who are conservative and gun owners don’t bother with categorizing people by skin color, education, or social status like you libs do.
        You want information? Ask. Most will happily enlighten you without too much sarcasm or denigration. Most of us have endured the same socialist indoctrination you exhibit, but have managed to throw it off.
        Hateful trolls and “white privilege”? Did you jump in with an accusatory rant or did you ask a sincere question? Define “white privilege”.
        Russian operatives? Just where is you evidence, or are you reading from a script?
        Dana Loesch is markedly less evil than the zampolit whose words you so faithfully parrot.

    5. I can’t stand Donald Trump! Or Hillary Clinton! I did not vote for either evil. I know that the entire system, and everybody in it, is more corrupt and deceptive than people can’t even begin to fathom. However, this is wrong! Just because I know Donald Trump is trash, does not mean that I would ever wish this upon him. What is wrong with people?! Absolutely vile and disgusting! I completely agree with you. I am also pro-2nd Amendment.
      Please change your article, though. It is hard for me to share this with other people, because you can’t even spell “there”, “their”, “they’re” etc., correctly. I would love to share this. But you need to make sure that you are proof-reading and having competent people write your articles, so that people who agree with you, can share them. Without being laughed at, and be taken seriously. Thank you. It does not help our cause, when people who will disagree with us, actually have every right to brush it off and not take you as competent, because you cannot get elementary school spelling and grammar correctly. When you are publishing articles, this is very important for credibility. Even for people who agree with you. That’s not being petty, that’s actually having every right to question somebody’s intelligence. I hate saying this, because I agree with you… But it’s just mind-boggling that so many people can’t get these very easy, basic, elementary school words right. The entirety of humanity no matter who they are, is definitely becoming less intelligent by the day. LOL I am sure that somebody will read this, and their butt will get really hurt – but I am not the one over here publishing articles, trying to get people to take me seriously.

      1. Becca, you might want to proof-read your post, since we also should not view well, based on your grammar, too, based on your statement that only grammatically correct prose is to be taken seriously. I believe the idea is more important, especially in these days in the Internet Age, and also when so many are ESL – we can’t expect perfect grammar, as your post so in-eloquently shows.

        I will point out one error, as you did to the poster of the article, you used the word “correctly”, when the word should have be “correct”. If you can’t tell the difference between an adverb and an adjective, you have no standing to correct a typo. You probably do know the difference, just as the writer does between the “theirs”. It would seem no one is perfect – it’s the message that is important – get over yourself.

        1. @ Becca, oh no another spell Nazi and it took you a full page to make your point while you errored yourself. The only perfect individual that ever lived sits at the right hand of God. Get a grip.

        2. Hey Heed the Call-up…..didn’t your mama ever teach you not to justify your own bad behavior by pointing to others and their bad behavior? Now don’t get me wrong!…..I am no ally of Becca. I am firmly stationed shotgun on the Trump wagon and do not care for her middle of the road ambivalence. But, not fer nuthin…..she has a good point. If you want to put out articles that contain well reasoned, logical ideas and you want other like minded people to share and/or discuss them; you need to take enough self pride in your product/s and abilities to run the spell-check program. Or at least have your wife do a quick read through before you submit. So instead of excuses and finger pointing (which are not conservative or right-wing values), you might just want to man up, apologize or agree…….and then fix ’em up. And if you fellas wanna ream me a new one for my opinion; well go ahead. This is still a free country. I know it is because I paid my dues to keep it that way. Thank you for reading and MAGA!!! Semper Fidelis mates!

      2. Becca, You are part of the problem in this country. Pick a side you agree with and then grow a backbone and stand for it. If you don’t you are sentencing yourself and your possible children to a life that will make what’s going on now look like a tea party in Alice in Wonderland. In making your decision I can only hope that you will do your own research and not listen to anyone. You have all the answers at your fingertips and a vast history of people and laws stored on it. I wish you well and hope that you find yourself for the well being of yourself and family. Don’t accept any outcome without your fight for what you think is right.

      3. Beacca, I bet you had Love Affair With Obama, Wild Willy, and George Soros. But having reading all your Post, I believe you are a Paid Troll for George Soros, and the Liberal Side of the Democratic Party. You are most likely ANTIFA. But you do not have the Nerve, to admit that fact, that’s how chicken sh!t you are

      4. That’s the thing you don’t understand about Donald Trump, he’s not part of the “system” That’s why he’s hated so much. He’s straightforward and gets things accomplished.

    6. The democrats should be hand cuffed out of office ! They are obstructionists and should be DELETED !!!!!!

    7. Donna, apparently you are one of the ones that this story is addressing. Where have you read that anyone wants to arm 6 year old school children? However, I probably would have trusted my daughter at that age much more than you. At least she learned firearm safety. She didn’t learn to shoot until 8 years old, only because she didn’t want to learn until that age.

      Statistically, since whites are still about 70% of the USA population, one would reasonably expect that there should be 70% of the criminals and “mass-shooters” to be whites. The FBI crime stats, unfortunately for you, do not bear that out. Spewing hateful, ignorant comments don’t help prove your points, but further show the lameness and idiocy of the anti-rights people and groups and furthers our already ill-regard of opinions from those like you. We would be willing to have a rational, logical debate of facts, but you clearly lack that ability found in mature adults.

      1. We don’t have to abolish ’em, just send ’em to experience life for a year or so in one of their socialist worker’s paradise countries where the population is going blind from malnutrition or losing an average of 25 pounds due to the lack of available food.

    8. What a crock! If you people on the right or in the NRA only had a simple handgun there would be no problem. But you’re so hell-bent on having enough firepower to wage war and that scares the hell out of me. You have a right to defend yourself. But you don’t need a goddamn machine gun or military style rifle. When the second amendment was written people used muskets for chrissakes, so you want to own a closet full of muskets fine with me. Please leave the machine guns and the military style rifles to law-enforcement and the military, civilian or gun enthusiasts don’t need them. Massive firepower and an absurd interpretation of the Second Amendment are the problem. If people were more logical and reasonable I think things would be a lot different. However the NRA and the right are not willing to budge so we are all at a standstill. So until it happens to you, your family or someone you know there won’t be any reasonable or responsible changes in gun reform. I pray that those in control wake up and make changes before you personally witness any gun violence. I want to say one more time that having a hand gun for protection is absolutely your right. Having an arsenal of rifles, machine guns and/or automatic weapons belongs with the military and law-enforcement, because those types of weapons were designed to kill massive amounts of people instantaneously. And if you’re a civilian and need that kind of protection maybe you should rethink your life and shouldn’t be walking around.

      1. I’m from the right and I agree with you 100% about the kinds of guns civilians should have. Although I’m not so sure if I had a gang of MS13 coming at me and my girls with machetes.

        1. Citizens can’t buy machine guns and semi-automatic means as fast as you can pull the trigger over and over. Bump stocks are illegal. Criminals are still going to have what they want.

          1. Margie, private citizens are “allowed” to purchase automatic weapons, they are even more highly regulated than other firearms, but still legal, and much more expensive since the 1986 automatic weapons ban. That ban grandfathered the ones manufacturered pre-ban, made in 1985 and earlier.

            Bump stocks are legal and do not turn semi-autos into automatics – that would be illegal without ATF approval – NFA item.

            I do agree that laws do not prevent crime, quite evident, since even the death penalty isn’t a deterrent.

            1. Heed the call up. Not sure what America you live in but Americans CANNOT buy automatic weapons. Have not been able to buy since 86. In that your right. However bump stocks are now illegal nationwide. Facts are important. You had two facts wrong. And you failed to mention is the NATO 7.62 round used by almost all western fully auto weapons is not available to the public. Also the rounds used in any European fully auto (AK-47) is not available in the west. Remember your beloved open border with Mexico? Lastly, you on the left will never get my weapons. You fuckers are scary, unhinged and not trustworthy.

            2. @Heed, I like everything that you wrote, except “allowed”. Buying, keeping, carrying etc. are a Civil Right although infringed on by the NFA “tax” statute.

          2. Robert Zimmerman, you need to do a bit of research on the 1986 automatic weapons ban. It only banned purchase and possession of automatic weapons to private USA citizens, for those weapons manufactured 1986 and after. Also, with the proper license to manufacture firearms, one can make and possess automatic weapons for sale, but only to government agencies, not to the general public.

            We certainly are allowed to own 7.62×51 ammunition. Your lack of knowledge and inability to research what I posted, which would have shown what I stated is fact, is pure ignorance, laziness, or just plain foolishness.

            Please do us law-abiding citizens a big favor and learn our rights and laws pertaining to firearms before posting any further non-sense.

            1. The AK.SKS ammo is 7.62×39 also called 30 Russian, It is available as imported surplus or factory new ammo.
              The M14/ M1A fires the 7.62×51 NATO round, also known as the .308 Winchester. It is available worldwide in military and sporting and target versions.
              The 7.62×63 is the round fired by the M1 Garand, 1903 Springfield and M1917. Also worldwide as the .30/06.
              The AR fires the 5.56×45 NATO and can fire the .223 Remington. The .223 Remington chambered rifle will chamber a 5.56×45 but it should not be fired because the freebore is longer in a 5.56×45 rifle. The shorter freebore can raise pressures above safe limits.
              The AR has been chambered in almost every possible and several impossible calibers such as 50 BMG as a single shot bolt action.
              NSSF has coined the name Modern Sporting Rifle MSR. I prefer Militia Standard Rifle since sport is not a written guarantee in the Constitutioin ansd Bill of Rights.

          3. WB, very true and I concur, which is why I put allowed in quotes. The government is violating our rights when they “allow” us the RKBA.

            1. @Heed… the quotation marks! I missed the quotation marks. I went back to look and there they were giving a whole new meaning to what I read… Well, hush my mouth… it appears that I owe you an apology.

      2. @Wes Adams
        If you think citizens should only have pistols then it is clear you have no understanding of what the 2nd Amendment means.

        1. @Wess Adams you are definitely a snowflake democrat. I can sum this up for you in one simple sentence. YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO TELL ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN’T OWN BECAUSE I AM A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Go back to your hole troll.

      3. Tell that to WWII Jews. We have the second amendment to protect ourselves from our government who may some day seek to opress our rights.

        1. “Certainly one of the chief guarantees of freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of citizens to keep and bear arms. This is not to say that firearms should not be very carefully used and that definite safety rules of precaution should not be taught and enforced. But the right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, and one more safeguard against tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible.”
          ~Hubert H. Humphrey

      4. You should probably get a clearer education about the 2nd amendment and stop being so emotionally unstable.

      5. You do realize that the first machine gun, the Puckle gun was invented in 1718. That was several decades before the 2nd amendment and the Constitution was written. Furthermore the Army Washington commanded used cannons that were owned by private citizens..

      6. Odd that you say the exercise of the 2bd amendment rights of law abiding citizens must be technologically frozen. I guess your argument is invalid since it takes place on something not around when the 1st amendment was written.

        Logic fail!

      7. Wes, (and others) The 2nd Amendment is not about self defense. It is about having a properly armed citizenry to over through any potential tyrannical government. 70 million gun owners owning 300 million guns and plenty of ammo is what we have now. As long as the Government has military style weapons, so will we. (along with active duty military who would uphold the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic.) The U.S Rebels of the time were using military style weapons of the time against the British Regulars.

      8. Then throw your technology away, break out your printing press, and send a letter via point express because our forefathers never foresaw the internet. Your freedom of speech on the internet is hereby revoked. Citizenry cannot own military weapons. If I dress like the devil on Halloween, can I drag you to hell? Looks mean nothing. The AR-15 looks like a military weapon, however it is not, and never had been. Armalite Rifle = AR. Not assualt rifle. Not automatic rifle. It also has a very small projectile. Very small. Educate before you hate.

      9. You think the average “gun nut” owns “military style” rifles and “machine guns”? Do you have any idea how expensive obtaining a fully automatic (not to be confused with fully semi-automatic, which isn’t really a thing) weapon is or how rigorous the vetting process is to obtain the tax stamp for such a thing? Machine guns have been highly regulated since the 1930’s. You should consider educating yourself about these tools you hate so much before voicing your opinion. As grandpa used to say, “It’s better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt”

      10. If the military and police get them, then we get them. That simple. Because if and when they decide to commit genocide against us/their own people, we have every right to be able to stand up to them. That is what the Second Amendment is. So if they get those weapons, so do we. If you want to ban those types of weapons worldwide, and make it so that they don’t exist at all, I am with you. But as it stands, if they get them, then we do as well. Otherwise if a tyrannical government decides to get out of control, we will have no defense. That is what the Second Amendment is about. Clearly our government is evil and tyrannical and out of control, too. & If you think the possibility of them doing some crazy stuff is a conspiracy theory, then I’m sorry you had better get real. Anytime there has been a gun grab or weapon grab/ban//limit in the history of the planet, guess what? The government that did it, always has immediately followed that by genocide against its own people. There are many timelines you can look up, that prove this in history. If you are egotistical enough to think that the United States government is going to be any different LOL you’re a fool.

        1. Ronald, people do legally own machine guns and many other military assets. We are “allowed” by our government to exercise our RKBA, the text of the 2A states arms, not firearms. Do a quick Internet search on buying a machine gun. It’s very expensive, but legal.

        2. @Ronald B, I tried hard to find one thing correct about your assertion. Congratulations, you have a subject, a verb and two direct objects.

        3. There are over a 1/4 million legally owned full auto weapons owned by civilians in the USA. Police and sheriff departments also own a bunch. American also own tanks, .

      11. can you show me anywhere, where what you said is correct?
        the 2nd was never meant for hunting, it was always written to have an well armed militia. specifically to ensure the govt doesn’t become like England.

      12. If you’re from the right you should have a better understanding of the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment wasn’t written for self-defense, or for hunting game. It was written so as to allow us to resist a tyrannical government, kind of like we have currently. Therefore our right to have comparable firepower as the Military is a guaranteed right. It would be worthless if we fought with muskets against a government using machine guns. The unintended benefit has also been that our ownership of guns has been a great deterrent to another country attacking us in a military fashion. Three hundred million guns will do that.

      13. This is the typical uninformed response. The Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. There are any restrictions listed on the original. The intention was to keep an armed populous to fight and resist a tyrannical oppressive government. Therefore the people deserve at least comparable weapons the military has access to be able to defend against them. There’s no mention about protecting your home from robbers. It’s defending against a government power foreign or domestic. It can’t even be measured the amount of safety legal gun ownership has provided to the US. N Korea’s Million man army would be afraid to invade a country with 300 million guns. What a bench. That’s the whole point, if you don’t feel comfortable with a gun that’s okay, but I don’t feel comfortable without one. Especially with the advent of the TDS epidemic and you liberals calling for violence.

      14. @Wess A, If all we had were a simple hand gun, you’d be after that too. You call a collection of rifles an arsenal, signaling your disapproval of having more than you think someone should have. As to what I need, that is my decision not yours. You merely recite boring left wing blather.

    9. Don, thanks for the honesty. We are way passed “can we all get along”, it’s boiling and will soon boil over at the rate it’s going. There is no stopping it at this point.

    10. I’m chill. Watching these antics and hysterics from the loonie left just means we’re winning. When you lose the game you kick over the table and turn out the lights. That’s how they “cope”. All this talk about civil war is just wishful thinking and virtue signaling. By the time the libtards agree on their secret handshake and shove a few firecrackers in their backpacks the whole fiasco will be over in time for lunch.

      1. Farce Book is – can be – used as a tool for/by ‘Big Brother’. Too much info. Accessable by too many. Usually about too little.
        Past time to stop aiding the enemy. If I want to know Anything about you – and you have a FB account – it’s no problem finding you.

    11. The Democratic party is “clearly and overtly” backing Maxy (the wig) Waters to incite violence against duly elected and Presidential appointees and their families. The MSM, especially CNN, gives 24/7 coverage to her illegal activities and promotes her agenda. The MSM has become the propaganda tool of the Democratic party. Make no mistake, these are disturbed people who want a confrontation. It IS just around the corner, and it will be violent. I think this will occur when President Trump nominates a Supreme Court candidate to replace the retiring judge.

    12. When we stopped agreeing with the left they turned up the violence. They have gone as far socialist dictatorship as we were willing to accept. If we turn things around the left will get more violent. This is why there is an Independence Day. The Founding Fathers wanted to turn away from the socialist dictatorship of the Norman monarchs. They wouldn’t be subjects will we?

    13. beware of the end game! they are not crazy. they are baiting us to act first so they can cry to the UN WHO REALLY IS THE EU, to disarm America. that has always been the end game. news flash.. WE DO NOT NEED GUNS TO CRUSH THESE COMMUNIST, EU, SOLD OUT SCUM… MANY OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO END THEM. Keep up your mind and physical abilities.

      1. @dg. I agree. The America hating crowd has revealed themselves, and don’t have many alternatives. We need to keep our heads because everything is going our way.
        Even the libtard trolls have been absent, lately.

    14. “Maxine Waters called it an uprising and praised the gang banger thugs who pulled Reginal Denny out of his truck and tried to beat him to death”…..WTH!? and you are in an elected job! Your ass needs fired!

    15. The national news media is to blame for bashing everything Trump does or says and the crazy BS of this Russia story that we have had to put up with for over a year is driving the democrats to a fever pitch and they have flipped out.

    16. And always remember the police cannot and in some cases as evidenced by Parkland, FL will not protect you and yours. It is your responsibility to protect yourself and your family. In any assault the police are always the second responders. You as a potential victim are the first responder. Shouldn’t you as the first responder be at least as well armed as the second responder? Of course you should. Molon Labe.

      1. So kids in school should be armed? Even the little kids at Sandy Hook? The day I need to buy a gun for a 6!year old is the day we need to stop public schools. Do you notice most of the mass killers are white, Nazi & White Supremacists; I’m pretty sure Maxine Waters didn’t direct them to go kill.

        1. @Donna…..Who said kids should be armed? And it is true that the Parkland Police did not react appropriately to the murderer. Your insane rant is typical of the liberal left. An emotion driven drivel based on no facts. And most of the mass killers have been registered democrats. Maxine Waters is too stupid to hold Dog Catcher position let alone a congressional seat. Grow up.

        2. Nobody has ever suggest that the children should be armed, That is a phony claim made the anti-gun crowd.
          What we want is for adult teachers and school staff to be armed if they want to carry weapons to defend the children.
          We’ve been trying gun free school zones for decades and school shootings have increased as copycats feel empowered by the news.
          There is evidence that having armed defenders present immediately stops school killings, often before anybody is killed. Waiting only 60-90 seconds for police to arrive means that a killer will have killed at least five people even if all they have is a duck gun.
          The Second Amendment is intended to protect the ability of citizens to prevent tyranny. Read the Declaration of Independence [everybody should on Independence Day]. It say the people have a right and a duty to resist tyranny by force.
          The states had their militias included in the basic Constitution, in Article One, Section Eight. Patrick Henry and others did not support ratification of the Constitution that did not protect the right of the people to form militias, patterned after the Minutemen. The Minutemen were not approved or sanctioned by the British Governor. They were an independent body that formed to overthrow a tyrant.
          The Second Amendment asks and answers a question.
          A well regulated [trained] militia being necessary to the security of a free state [not a tyranny] ?
          “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
          The hostility of the Left and the left leaning MSM may be honestly intended to reduce crime, but the sad fact fact is that crime increases when victims are easy prey.
          Any person has a right to defend themselves and their loved ones. The law should prescribe punishment for crimes, but the law should not make people into victims of street gangs, or government. tyranny.
          The NSSF wants to call the AR a Modern Sporting Rifle which is a politically correct term that assumes that hunting and sport target shooting is OK.
          But that is not what the Second Amendment is about. The Second Amendment is about preventing tyrannical government. In 1939 the SCOTUS recognized this when they said that the militia was expected to appear bearing their private military arms.
          The AR can be a lot of fun, it is sporting because all guns can be used for sport. But the AR is a Militia Standard Rifle in caliber, which means that should the Minutemen be necessary they could appear bearing the privately owned ARs and the ammunition they accumulated until government could resupply ammunition.

    17. Thinking that any of these “radical leftists” are anything but viciously dedicated communists has not bothered to follow the “progressive”erosions of our freedoms since the end of the Second World War. The end of the Cold War set ’em back a bit, but they never gave up.

    18. Lets not forget the Las Vegas shooter, clearly a political attack, brushed over as a nut-job. Wake up people its obvious!
      They have every intention to cause more carnage and violence when the elections come around. Start carrying, train to use defensively. “I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six!”

        1. The 460 S&W is just a longer, stronger case than the 1873 Colt 45. All the rimmed 45 caliber cartridges such as the 45 Schofield, 45 Colt, 454 Casull can be fired in the 460 S&W. The 45 ACP being rimless can be used only if the gun is modified to use moon clips or a second cylinder that is chambered to stop the shorter 45 ACP case just just slipping an inch below the cylinder.
          Cops today carry an AR because it is more impressive than a little can of MACE.

          1. Jim Macklin, true the bullet diameter is still just .45 cal, but the cartridge is larger and much more powerful.

    19. INSANITY! AND THIS IS FROM THE “PEOPLE LOVING, HUMAN RIGHTS ESPOUSING” DEMOCRAT LEFT! WHY DO WE CONSERVATIVES NOT RETALIATE? I LIKE TO THINK THAT TEDDY ROOSEVELT’S STRATEGY OF “WALK SOFTLY, BUT CARRY A BIG STICK” IS A MOTTO WE SHOULD LIVE BY, BUT HOW FAR DO WE LET THESE INSANE BASTARDS PUSH US? I AM GETTING OLDER NOW, AND I AM ARMED. I WILL NOT LET MY LOVED ONES, FRIENDS, OR MYSELF BE SET UPON BY THESE TRUE BARBARIANS!

      1. Amen YankeeBill! I am armed at all times, and it seems that one pretty much needs to keep his head on a virtual swivel whilst out mainstreaming. Safer along the streamside fishing. The bears are not as vile or vicious.

      2. @Yankee, We are going to retaliate … at the primaries, the polls, and with intelligent and close adherence to the law of self defense (if necessary). Let the Libtard Socialist Democrat (LSD) party make the mistakes while we photograph them, testify against them, and maybe even imprison them.
        We have everything going our way just now. There is plenty of time for mayhem, later, if necessary.
        The libtard socialist anarchists are not our only enemies. The Grand old Prostitute party is corrupt. The bureaucracy is corrupt. The Soros/Bloomberg crowd is corrupt. The judiciary is corrupt. With this many enemies arrayed against us, we have to be smart.

    20. Folks, it is very simple at this stage of the game: the only way to deal with the Left is crack their empty heads literally! Yes, it has come to that point. You cannot reason nor talk to the vile mentally deranged trash know as DemonRATS, Progressives, Liberals, whatever in the world you care to call the crazed buffoons. Wake up America – we are in a completely different stage of the game now and in the very near future.

    21. Take a hard look at history, seriously. The Left ALWAYS Loses their Minds & Descends into Violence – it’s what they do. The other thing they do, when they achieve power, is to kill off the Old Left that put them into power. Sux to be a Dem after they achieve their goal.

      1. @Dave, Gee, I would hate to think that I was working to achieve the unintended consequence of saving the lives of the Old Left! That is depressing!

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