Details On Oregon’s New Insane Gun-Grab Bill, with Sneak Amendment

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Details On Oregon's New Insane Gun-Grab Bill, with Sneak Amendment

Oregon – -(AmmoLand.com)- SB 978 has it's first “amendment”. It's 44 pages long and turns the bill into a nightmare anti gun bill.

We told you about SB 978 yesterday and assured you that this harmless looking bill was going to be gutted and stuffed with draconian anti-gun language, and it has been.

Here is a link to the “Dash 1” amendment to the bill. And of course we use the word amendment quite loosely.

The “amendment” is 44 pages long. The “bill” was a few paragraphs.

After our first review of the bill here are the elements we noticed immediately. No doubt we missed a few.

If this “amendment” is adopted, the hateful bill will:

  • Allow gun stores to refuse to sell firearms and ammunition to young adults (As Bi-mart, Walmart and Fred Meyers have done in violation of the law.)
  • Exonerate gun dealers who violated our anti-discrimination laws, even if they did it before this bill was passed. (Get out of jail free card for corporations that broke the law.)
  • Require that your self defense firearms be locked up. Under this bill you can be prosecuted even if you did lock up your guns with a cable lock if someone has “access” to a device to defeat the lock. Which of course, is anyone who has access to almost any tool.
  • Hold gun owners responsible for two years for guns they “transferred” unless they could prove the transferred gun had a trigger or cable lock. (This is one of the most inane ideas we have ever seen.)
  • Hold gun owners responsible for crimes committed with guns that were stolen from them.
  • Treat “80 % lowers” as complete guns requiring background checks and registration. If the lower is transferred and has no serial number, the police need a “detailed description: or the lower.
    Ban “undetectable firearms.”
  • Ban “untraceable firearms”
  • Increase CHL fees.
  • Allows cities, counties, metropolitan service districts, airports, schools, colleges and universities to ban CHL holders from “public buildings.” Please note. The bill does NOT say buildings owned by those entities. It says “public buildings.” Under this bill a school in John Day could forbid you from carrying your firearm in a public building in Troutdale.
  • Ban CHL holders from airports. No, not just the terminal. But the parking lots and grounds “adjacent” to parking lots. Picking up your spouse at the airport? Go to jail.

This “amendment” is insane.

If you can come to the capitol on April 2nd to testify against this please come. The sideshow hearing starts at 8am with sign ups to testify starting at 7.30 am in room 50 in the Capitol basement.

If you cannot be there in person please upload testimony to [email protected]

You can contact the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee here.

The Senators who support your rights on that committee are: Kim Thatcher, Cliff Bentz and Dennis Linthicum. All the rest are opposed to your rights.

The person allowing this outrage to go on is Senate President Peter Courtney. You can, and should, contact him here.

This is not the end of it. Floyd Prozanski is planning another anti-gun bill to be heard on April 8th 2019 where, not doubt he plans to take away whatever he missed on this bill.
It's essential that you get involved. NOW.


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    Dibrin B
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    Dibrin B

    Will not comply with unconstitutional laws guess youll just have to murder me.

    John
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    John

    Not to worry, they will!

    Michael H
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    Michael H

    God, you guys reporting on legislation sound as knowledgable as the regular media reporting on the technical terms of guns. You’d be better off being less “no compromise” and more “let’s work with these fools so they don’t do something stupid”. Anyway the “amendment” is the practical HOW the bill gets integrated into all the other existing statutes to avoid ambiguity and conflicts. Try to read it that way…it makes more sense. About the merits, if I’m a business and I don’t want to sell guns to 19 year old fools, isn’t it my right to not do so? Isn’t… Read more »

    Country Boy
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    Country Boy

    go away. we do not need people like you helping the dems ban all guns.

    Gun owners have put up with the dems (and repubs) anti gun/gun grabbing tactics TOO LONG.

    it’s now time stand and fiht for our rights that the 2nd A gives us with NO COMPRIMISES. We will no longer comply with UNCONSTITUTIONAL anti gun laws. NONE. NOT ONE.

    You can go lick the boots of the brown shirts. We will not.

    Sarthurk
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    Sarthurk

    Really?
    How funny.
    Is that what you think and believe?
    Or, if you are being sarcastic, Right on!
    This is exactly what the Communists want you to believe. Screw the Constitution!
    Screw the Bill of Rights.
    I’ll defend my rights in a Constitutional manner.
    YOU. HAVE. NOTHING!
    MOLON LABE
    Go piss up a rope, pilgrim

    DHop
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    DHop

    Using your logic Michael H a car owner should be held liable if he/sells their vehicle to a 18-19 and gets drunk and crashes. Bills like these proposed do nothing but penalize lawful gun owners. When someone fills out the Federal firearms form it lists several components that may or may not disqualify a buyer. I.e. Domestic violence or adjudicated by a court as mentally unfit. Bills like these are also a rehash of laws already on the books. Police are responsible for arresting perps. But criminals will continue to find ways to circumvent any law. Stop penalizing the lawful… Read more »

    Tired Of The Slaughter
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    Tired Of The Slaughter

    Ignorants prefers unlimited military weapons of DEATH readily available to all in America and don’t mind the NRA SILENCE on mass shooting of INNOCENTS daily. Make no mistake the NRA is NOT a well regulated militia, it’s single prpose is a promoter and supporter of GUN rights only, not Human rights or safe society. ALL THE NRA SELLS IS FEAR

    the SWEDE
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    the SWEDE

    Grammer, Grammer, Grammer. Yours is terrible and therefore makes your nonsensical ramblings and beliefs appear even more worthless. You did get one thing right though, the NRA is not, nor have they ever claimed to be a “regulated militia” or any other type of militia. Shut up and go back to crying about milk being murder or some sissy crap like that.

    Joan Brigham
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    Joan Brigham

    Grammar.

    Isaac
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    Isaac

    What’s up on the atack of honest good gun owners and there culture, and why are we ignoring the drug epidemic, and the mental illness, and straight up crazy people, mostly homeless. I know dozens of people that are affected by the drug epidemic, yet of 46 years I’ve only lost one friend to a firearm homaside, and may be have piece but he chose a life of crime so it was his own undoing there.

    Country Boy
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    Country Boy

    more people are killed by DUI drivers, by hammers, and a lot of other things more than guns. 3/4 of those killed by guns are suicides. .

    Go SJW your ass off for DUIers and hammers. Keep your filthy hands off our guns.

    Country Boy
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    Country Boy

    The military uses full auto/select fire rifles. AR 15 that the public is allowed is semi auto. You know little about firearms evidently. Why should we listen to you? And why should we let legislators, who are just as ignorant about firearms as you are, make *unconstitutional* laws concerning firearms ?
    It’s not our fault crazy people are crazy, and do crazy things. We didn’t shoot ANYONE. if you want to blame someone, blame the shooter dumbass.

    Anti gun assholes like yourself make me sick to my stomach. You’re always thinking you’re smarter than everyone else, when thevery opposite is true.

    Country Boy
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    Country Boy

    No… YOU and the DEMS are the ones “selling fear”. You also are selling removal of OUR constitutional rights endowed to us by the Creator. (God) Our bill of rights just gaurantees us that these rights will be upheld.
    Firearms are for RESPONSIBLE OWNERS.
    Criminals do not follow your “gun laws”. It’s why they are CRIMINALS you idiot. Go stick your head up Fiensteins ass. it’ll make a nice match.

    Smoke Jensen
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    Smoke Jensen

    You are a complete MORON. You really have no clue what you are talking about.

    Don Walker
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    Don Walker

    First Off… Kiss my @$$,
    Here it is in a nutshell.
    THE 2ND AMENDMENT IS MY GUN PERMIT PERIOD…
    DATE ISSUED 1871
    DATE EXPIRES. NEVER
    who the hell do these people think they are, passing this load of crap declaring a state of EMERGENCY..!!! WHAT EMERGANCY

    Jason Swartz
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    Jason Swartz

    You need to research the facts before you comment on anything. Just in case your self entitlement, snowflake mind would like 1 fact that destroys your thinking — military rifles are not readily available to civilians. A fully automatic rifle is not the same as a semi-automatic rifle. If you don’t know the difference, do some research before you try to argue with gun owners. If I hurt your snowflake feelings, go to your quiet place and cry your heart out. Otherwise, gain some knowledge so you can actually debate without resorting to the coward’s way of name calling and… Read more »

    J.
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    J.

    Sounds to me like our governor and state legislature and the state legislature of Oregon are sharing notes on how to ignore and strip your second amendment rights. In Colorado, formerly known as Colorful Colorado now – Confiscation Colorado, our governor and his liberal minions have passed the gun confiscation bill otherwise known as HB19-1177, the red flag bill. Without your knowledge or any prior hearing, you can be deemed unsafe to yourself or public and any and all firearms will be removed from your residence. You will only know this has happened when the authorities come knocking on your… Read more »

    Dan
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    Dan

    Communist Kate Brownstain has to go. Tar and feathered and ran out of town on a rail.

    Tired Of The Slaughter
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    Tired Of The Slaughter

    Ignorants prefers unlimited military weapons of DEATH readily available to all in America and don’t mind the NRA SILENCE on mass shooting of INNOCENTS daily. Make no mistake the NRA is NOT a well regulated militia, it’s single prpose is a promoter and supporter of GUN rights only, not Human rights or safe society. ALL THE NRA SELLS IS FEAR

    R. Tylock
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    R. Tylock

    You really sound like like a Demorat troll. Just so happens they won a huge action in California where they have banned large capacity magazines for over a decade. Ruling it is unconstitutional and high capacity magazines are legal. They never claimed to be militias. Bet you don’t even know that there are armed militia and unarmed militias. Also there are some that were formed under the Dick act, and like the State Guard, they too are under the Governor of each state. I have been a member of the NRA since 1960 while I was still serving in the… Read more »

    D C
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    D C

    Come get ’em fool.

    Robert Messmer
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    Robert Messmer

    Quote: “Ban CHL holders from airports. No, not just the terminal. But the parking lots and grounds “adjacent” to parking lots. Picking up your spouse at the airport? Go to jail.” Unless the actual amendment specifies how far “adjacent” is it would encompass the entire state.

    Joanie
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    Joanie

    He says “ban CHL holders from “public buildings” but he doesn’t say if they are in possession of a firearm. If you are a CHL holder, and you aren’t carrying, then are you allowed into airports etc? I sure hope a CHL holder who is NOT carrying a firearm is regarded to be the same as everyone else?

    Buddy
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    Buddy

    That’s how socialism works if it’s good for Timmy it’s good for you oh and by the way it’s against the law to kill yourself yes even with your own gun they want to protect you but by protecting you they take all your rights away they are not Americans where will they ever be Americans it’s just treason and you know what the punishment used to be for treason was

    Thomas Harris
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    Thomas Harris

    God bless you and God bless America. Our God given and freedom fought for rights are not to be diminished throughvtrickory or any other means. And treason is TBE correct presentation for whom ever tries to take control of our American freedoms that were and are fought for and died for.

    TheHolyCrow
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    TheHolyCrow

    @Buddy….Who would want to shoot themselves in order to commit suicide ? What with the “opioids epidemic” they are always blathering about, it would be much easier and pleasant to go out with a few pills. No mess, no fuss, just write a good bye note, swallow a few with a shot of your favorite brew, lie down with your head on a nice soft pillow, pull the covers up so you are nice and warm, and go to sleep. Blowing your brains out just gives gun owners a bad name, and another statistic that the commies will use to… Read more »

    Tom
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    Tom

    How about legislation banning paranoid idiots from serving in government?

    Coop
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    Coop

    Good. F the NRA.

    Ldych
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    Ldych

    We do not need guns in everyone’s hands. There needs to be a limit on who has a gun and what type of gun it is.

    DaveW
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    DaveW

    We already have laws restricting specific categories of people banned from firearms possession. There should be no other restriction on law abiding, freedom loving American citizens. At least until the Second Amendment has been changed or repealed by a vote of We the People in accordance with the Constitutionally established means of change. The Constitution sets out what powers are granted to the government and the ability to change any of the enumerated rights of the people are not set forth. The Founders specifically stated that politicians should never have the power to alter an enumerated right, “…for if they… Read more »

    Boris Badenov
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    Boris Badenov

    YOU are either being sarcastic or most likely, a flaming retarded idiot. Care to clarify which?

    Joanie
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    Joanie

    Ldych,
    Why?
    Who would set the limit? Based on what criteria?
    Who would decide the “type of gun?” And based on what criteria?

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Ldych, I agree. I get to decide, and I have decided that you, your libtard pals, and anyone in the democrat party can not have guns of any kind. I have also decided that you and your pal don’t need electricity, the internal combustion engine, water delivered to your house, or more than 1000 calories per day. That sure was simple.
    I will work on your employment assignments later. If you don’t know how to use a gun, you will learn how to use a hoe.

    Robert J. Lucas
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    Robert J. Lucas

    Then maybe SCOTUS, the Superior court needs to focus more on the second amendment, and set edicts for the inferior courts of the land regarding the second amendment, not allowing them to haphazardly re-interpret “ A Well Regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” For we are a Republic, not a democracy as many would like us to believe.

    debra
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    debra

    there are already enough laws for this stop trying to take everyone’s guns. debb

    David
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    David

    Seriously anti gun people move to California or any other heavily regulated state. have fun in your gun free zones where all these mass shootings seem to happen. sorry but the government doesnt get a monopoly on force. You can ban all the guns you want but you can’t ban the maladaptive internal logic that leads to these tragedies. You also cannot suppress knowledge firearms will always exist you will simply limit them to the worst aspects of modern society. The whole NRA bashing tells me your not thinking for yourself your playing tribal bullshit it is 5 million citizens… Read more »

    RickB
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    RickB

    Who wants to put money on “Coop” is the kind of bitch who says “No guns”, but is the first whiner to call a cop (the person with a gun) when its little feelings are offended ! Momma’s boy bitch at best.

    Walter S Curl
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    Walter S Curl

    Hey coop f you to you dumb some of a whore

    Jim
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    Jim

    IT IS SIMPLE–If you live in Oregon, by definition now, you MUST BE INSANE–so you will get your guns taken and you in the lockup.

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    It would appear that Oregon conservative gun owners just got steam rolled by the politicians they elected. You can’t vote for these anti gun people and expect them to leave your God given rights alone. I have read all the comments about a few cities controlling the whole state but if there were more conservatives that would take the time to vote it may not be so. You can’t sit in front of a computer and bitch while these non Americans are running your government. If voting doesn’t get the job done then sue them till they can’t see straight.… Read more »

    Nashmetal
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    Nashmetal

    Conservative people do not vote for these asshats, our pamphlets go straight to the shredders.

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @Anna…To expand on your comment .
    Ft Hood –Registered Democrat–Muslime
    Columbine–Too young to vote–both families registered Democrats and progressive liberals
    Virginia Tech–Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff–Registered Democrat
    Colorado Theater–Registered Democrat ; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant–progressive liberal
    Connecticut School Shooter–Registered Democrat–hated Christians
    Common thread is that all of these shooters were progressive liberal Democrats
    coincidence , I think not .

    TerryCharles
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    TerryCharles

    I’ve now read every reply in here. Not one word about mentally ill people.
    I totally understand that you need to have Dr./patient privilege, but should the Dr. think you might use a weapon to attack somebody, then that needs reporting. Don’t allow a gun purchase to take place. Notify that persons relatives that they may be volatile, and keep watch on them. And leave the rest of us to protect our own!

    Sgtyr
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    Sgtyr

    Yes there was. Anytime it says Democrats

    GunNutsCantRead
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    GunNutsCantRead

    Wow; big surprise. Nobody here that’s complaining about this legislation seems to have read it or have any functional understanding of it’s details. If you folks put the same level of care into your knowledge of firearms safety, then this legislation is not only right on track- it may need more stiffening.

    Gdubb
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    Gdubb

    If you believe this bill, as written, does not infringe upon the Constitutional rights (both State and Federal) of the citizens of Oregon, you are a complete imbecile. Please tell me how any of the points of this amendment would stop any sort of violence. Please stop watching MSLSD and the Caliphate News network and think for yourself (if you have enough brain cells left for logical thought, which I highly doubt) you rights-hating Anti-American libtard POS. YOU are what is wrong with America, not us. Go crawl back into your mom’s basement and troll somewhere else.

    Jon Patterson
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    Jon Patterson

    congrats for being the biggest dipshit in the room.
    it doesn’t matter what Bloomberg’s little minion writes… THE 2ND amendment is there to protect us genius… FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT AND ASSHOLES LIKE YOU.

    TerryCharles
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    TerryCharles

    Wow. I’m all about gun safety. But can’t figure where you think these are on track. And need stiffing?
    I said earlier it’s mental illness that needs attention. Not what I buy, or where I store it. The kids around my house won’t have any accidents. And who breaks in, better not.
    No more gun laws. Enforce what we have, and get to the root. It’s not the law abiding citizen.

    Robert J. Lucas
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    Robert J. Lucas

    Can’t wait for the results of the supreme court hearings, let us see if they agree that this is Anti-Constitutional, all 44 pages of it.

    Chuckbone56
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    Chuckbone56

    @canttead. We read it and understand it asshat. The Constitution as well. Feel free to ex-patriate your self.

    Mr. Bill
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    Mr. Bill

    Members of the Judiciary Committee: Your request for amendment 14732 to the innocuous Senate Bill 978 only two business days before public hearing clearly indicates your bad faith towards the Citizens of Oregon. The bill, as amended, should be rejected in full. Amendments to O.R.S. by Senate Bill 978-1 as it is now written: Section 2: endorses age discrimination and violation of public accommodation law negates illegal activities performed by retailers Section 6: institutes multiple felony counts for a single inaction on the part of a Citizen introduces liability for which no legal precedent in the history of western civilization… Read more »

    m.
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    m.

    stiffening is probably what happens when something goes up your a**, jamf.

    G. Michael Gilham
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    G. Michael Gilham

    WELL PUT…….THANK YOU! THAT HIT THE NAIL SQUARE ON THE HEAD!!! MICK

    Mick Gilham
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    Mick Gilham

    2 THINGS ARE HAPPENING; 1) When we get mad at the ill-informed people who are afraid of guns & our rights, we ONLY add fuel to their cause of ignorance. 2) We, who wish to hang tightly to our constitutional rights to own our guns to protect our God given rights that our forefathers fought for, are letting the non-caring people who are psychologically scared to death for whatever reason, “live rent-free in our minds”, so don’t get pissed at them, they haven’t had to live in fear yet. But if this bill passes, they they will begging for the… Read more »

    James Stahlnecker
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    James Stahlnecker

    The South will be one of the last places in the US to lose guns. Because they have seen the effects and mob rule after Emergencies. Like post Hurricane Katrina. In less than 2 days the lawless took over in mobs, looting, raping mothers in front of their kids. Tyranny is not so far fetched as so many dip into socialist/communist ideas (taking all rights because they may offend). Many forget, in less than a hundred years; hundreds of millions have died under tyranny; Hitler, Stalin, to Asia. Even wars we were involved in; North Vietnam & Korea stomping on… Read more »

    Sane Person
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    Sane Person

    Jesus. You’re certifiably retarded. I’m surprised you’re still alive.

    Charles Moore
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    Charles Moore

    Nearly 200 million murdered by their own governments (most of them after having been disarmed) after passing “laws” that you would enthusiastically support) just in the 20th century. Do some research.

    Robert J. Lucas
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    Robert J. Lucas

    @Sane Person, Quote: Author: Rhodney Freeman Comment: A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million… Read more »

    Ooh Rah
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    Ooh Rah

    So that’s the problem. Numb nuts people making judgement calls that are only experts in their own heads! Those conditions do occur, and it doesn’t have to be a war zone. It occurs in a lot of places where population density is lacking and law enforcement is sparse. It is even reported down on the border where the thousands claim they are coming in, like it or not. Just because you don’t believe self protection or a basic bill of rights isn’t for you, doesn’t make anyone retarded. It makes you look a bit weak in common sense, or lead… Read more »

    Dina Dalton
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    Dina Dalton

    Wow I thought home grown idiots would be extinct by the 21st century. But clearly it is the it the Constitution that is dead and gone. I think the Dept.should kill special Olympics and gives themselves a raise. For not using a gun.
    DJ

    Dick
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    Dick

    We have laws about dealing in illegal drugs. That has worked well. I am sure banning guns will be just as successful.

    DWEEZIL THE WEASEL
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    DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

    Word. This is an opportunity for those of us who live in Second Amendment Sanctuary States such as Idaho. I still have family and friends in the Peoples Democratic Socialist Republic of Oregon. I am about to become a smuggler.

    Sapper04
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    Sapper04

    Civil disobedience can be a good thing. Good luck!

    Gary S.
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    Gary S.

    There are already processes in place to allow DR’s to break privilege in Docs think the patient is/will be dangerous and harm others.

    Will K
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    Will K

    So with this “Ban CHL holders from airports. No, not just the terminal. But the parking lots and grounds “adjacent” to parking lots.” Does that practically mean if you have a CHL then you cant even go on a plane even if you actually have a brain and leave your gun at home? Cuz thats pretty stupid. Airport security be like “oh your photo ID says you have a CHL you’re under arrest.” This bill will obviously have to go to the ballots and it will most probably fail.

    Gary S.
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    Gary S.

    DO NOT ASSUME IT WOULD BE VOTED DOWN!!!!!!
    Remember EVERY gun restriction we have now is in place because people wanted them or just didn’t VOTE. Representatives would be out of office if they did.

    Gary S.
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    Gary S.

    I would be really screwed if I fly into Oregon. Instant felon as I exited the plane since I’m a CCW holder.

    Herb
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    Herb

    Unfortunately, here in the Bloomberg bought and paid for west coast, any gun legislation that is put to the voters has an extremely good chance of passing. The looney democrats that have moved up from California to take advantage of what was our lower real estate prices have seen to that.

    Vincent Brady
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    Vincent Brady

    When did these elected officials who are public servants become the publics’ masters?

    Dubi Loo
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    Dubi Loo

    Amen Vincent, Amen!

    John
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    John

    Aw when they started taking their marching orders from the swamp in DC – they became the puppets to the real masters. Is anyone really surprised, the DC swamp write all kinds of laws and exempts themselves and family from.

    Case in point, school loans. Our kids cannot file bankruptcy on them, but public servants kids can??? That’s just one the many that gets the Hmmmmm factor!

    Boris Badenov
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    Boris Badenov

    When they became “Progressives”. i.e. Socialist, Communist, Facists.

    MacofJack
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    MacofJack

    Liberals – LIE, STEAL, and CHEAT, it’s all they know!

    Stephen McDill
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    Stephen McDill

    So under this new law in Oregon it will be illegal to have any firearms unlocked at home at all? So a CHL holder must lock up his/her carry gun upon returning home? In Oregon??

    Glen Linscheid
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    Glen Linscheid

    “So under this new law in Oregon it will be illegal to have any firearms unlocked at home at all? So a CHL holder must lock up his/her carry gun upon returning home? In Oregon??”
    That seems to be what the brilliant “GUN NUTSCAN’TREAD” seems to “think”, by his or her reasoning if someone is beating you to death in your home you should ask him to wait while you unlock your weapon. ANTIGUNFOOLSCAN”TTHINK!~

    Gary S.
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    Gary S.

    Yup…. and in a Castle Doctrine State !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mr. Walkker
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    Mr. Walkker

    Lets see now….let me get this correct. If I were to reside in Oregon, I go to bed one evening a law abiding citizen. I awake the next day and I am now considered an Oregon Felon, according to Oregon Law Makers. How will that work out for those whom desire to place said boot upon one law abiding Citizens neck? Have these clowns thought this “all the way through”? Apparently NOT. What magic bullet is it that they have, that actually makes them believe that they are IMMUNE? It is non existent. Best beware of unintended consequences in that… Read more »

    Mr. Bill
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    Mr. Bill

    With this sneakiness the judicial committee has no intention of dealing with their serfs in good faith.

    Hoplite
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    Hoplite

    It is not Democrats War on Guns. It is Demo-Communists War on Freedom. They know if they get Americans guns, getting our freedom will be so much easier.

    Heather Coffman
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    Heather Coffman

    I do not understand the logic behind these types of bills. Except for the few native Americans left in this country everyone of our ancestors left an oppressive country (yes even England) to live free. We as a people must have somehow forgotten this. We continue to make up these ridiculous laws to stifle any possible differences we see in others. “I don’t like guns. They are scary. We need to take them away from everyone. Then we will be safe” how is this supposed to stop crime what is is next knives, sticks, cars, oh I know we should… Read more »

    allan King
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    allan King

    If we do not learn from histoy we are doomed to repeat it.This country has never been invaded because the world is afrade we are heavely armed so they don’t wont to risk it.

    Karl Beyerle
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    Karl Beyerle

    How does the govener of Oregon protect herself and family?

    m.
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    m.

    “it” gets protected by armed, taxpayer-paid security no doubt. like most gub-ment “things”. corrections welcome.

    TerryCharles
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    TerryCharles

    I’m pretty sure she just calls OSP , and has them shot. Just like she did with Roy Finicum.

    SD
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    SD

    Here’s a compare and contrast of this article and the amendments, all of these claims are incredibly misleading and I highly recommend anyone who doesn’t want to read the whole bill at least looks over this to see the actual wording of the bill as opposed to its depiction here. Misinformation is destructive, and news outlets need to start accurately portraying their subjects rather than painting whatever pandering portrait they can to get more clicks and ads

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MWigbkXyh8rU-3hMmx6aLojqqoD2gvUQyChwANeHTzg/edit?usp=sharing

    SD
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    SD

    The keyword in point number one is “allow” the bill states, “…A gun dealer, a person transferring a firearm, a firearm accessory, a firearm component, ammunition or an ammunition component at a gun show, or a business engaged in repairing or servicing a firearm, may establish a minimum age of 18, 19, 20 or 21 years for the purchase of firearms, firearm accessories, firearm components, ammunition or ammunition components or for the repair or service of a firearm…” keyword there is “may” meaning sellers have a choice which sounds pretty pro business to anyone actually reading the bill and not… Read more »

    Jon
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    Jon

    Thanks for the long winded comments,and the copy and paste of the comrades orders…the point you’re missing, is that words like “may”, and “shall” are incongruent with the ilaniable right to self defense. I don’t believe for a second that my right to defend myself needs to be given a legislative washing by beaurocrats who have the intent to regulate natural laws. Furthermore, this is just the beginning. You know damn well that the Democrats want to establish a norm, then they will just escalate from there. Soon, they’ll “ALLOW” a muzzle loader in the style of a Kentucky long… Read more »

    Vanns40
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    Vanns40

    SD: This was far too long to read through and was an exercise in futility for you. Why? Simply because ALL firearms laws are designed to only impact those who obey them, the law abiding citizen, and place restrictions on an inanimate object. We have more than 22,000 of them and they fail miserably in that regard.

    The solution? Repeal ALL firearms laws and enforce existing laws against rape, robbery & murder. There, wasn’t that easy!

    John
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    John

    Firearms manufactured by an individual and for their personal use, do not need a serial number. Serial number only needed for transfer of firearm from manufacturer to a second party user. This is federal law. Hence, 80% lower and receivers. You are wrong in your statement that all completed firearms require a serial number.

    Herb
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    Herb

    +1. AND…Is there actually a PROBLEM with CHL holders carrying in Airports????? Are CHL carriers in airports shooting people and property and endangering the public? Are there examples of this happening? So that such a law is actually ADDRESSING an ACTUAL PROBLEM?? I am so sick of these POS “Lawmakers” trying to find solutions to problems THAT DONT EXIST. Let’s enforce the thousands of gun laws already on the books as a start, that might actually help.

    Mark
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    Mark

    Appreciate your rational post. Thank you.

    Gdubb
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    Your inability to read between the lines is what is frightening. Have you studied history? Particularly the history of the rollout of new legislation in liberal-led states such as NY, OR or CA? If you did you would understand how unconstitutional bills such as this make the skin of Patriotic Americans crawl. Obviously you and your comrades are not Patriots. You are our enemy from within.

    J.
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    J.

    Gdubb add Colorado to your list liberal led anti gun states. A confiscation law was just passed known as the red flag bill. You can be judged, by just word of mouth to be unsafe, to yourself and or society without your knowledge or the ability to defend yourself. Your guns are removed from your residence and now you must prove your innocence. You can now answer to the charges after confiscation has taken place. Guilty before proven innocent. After which you can spend up to next year trying to get your firearms back should be deemed innocent and safe.

    Heed the Call-up
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    Heed the Call-up

    SD, your idiotic post is duly noted. And you are 100% wrong. In addition, the writer posted a link to the actual amendments to the bill. Oddly, you didn’t mention how, even from the first section, they are proposing an illegal act. “SECTION 1.(1) A gun dealer, a person transferring a firearm, afirearm accessory, a firearm component, ammunition or an ammuni-tion component at a gun show, or a business engaged in repairing orservicing a firearm, may establish a minimum age of 18, 19, 20 or 21years for the purchase of firearms, firearm accessories, firearm com-ponents, ammunition or ammunition components or… Read more »

    Jake
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    Jake

    Read the 2nd amendment abide by it try to change it you are a comfy f UK bottom line love America or leave we don’t t want you anti gun shit

    ras
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    ras

    SD, “fear mongering bullet point”? You mean the tactics that democrats use every chance they get ?

    Anna
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    Anna

    Take away ALL guns from Democrats because they are responsible for 99.9% of all killings; presidents, Columbine, Aurora, Kathy Gifford (those innocents that lost their lives, Sandy Hook, attempts on Congressman Steve Scalise, and so many more. The teenagers that committed killings were children of LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS. Now, the Democrats want guns locked up so no one can safeguard their families and homes. Damn Democrats must surrender their guns!

    Tired Of The Slaughter
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    Tired Of The Slaughter

    Well you certainly have not been paying attention, nor are well educated on current White Domestic Terrorists. Charlottesville ring a bell?

    ras
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    ras

    Charlottesville was a peaceful march until leftists started their usual tactics.

    Earl LaPorte
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    Earl LaPorte

    Sounds to me like they are trying to stomp on the 2nd amendment and do whatever they want to do. I’m here to say to them knock it off or get the hell out of office.

    Braheem
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    Braheem

    There is nothing wrong with half of these, gun nuts just getting their panties in a bunch. Though trying to charge someone for a firearm that was stolen and later used in a crime is bs.

    Herb
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    Herb

    OMG, REALLY???!?!? “I quote- nothing wrong with half these”. What about the OTHER HALF, the other INSANE HALF you dip Sh t??

    PNW coastal
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    PNW coastal

    I moved to Oregon and from California to distance myself from the weirdos that are now infesting the legislative branch here. So much has changed in what seems like a very short time……. I half expect them to claim leadership from behind at any monent.

    Paul
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    Paul

    The sickness started in CA

    Ken T
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    Ken T

    I still have yet to see any law on the books that a criminal will follow. Isn’t this similar to Einstein’s quote on insanity?

    BK
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    BK

    Oldest reply out there for no changes at all.

    Paul
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    Paul

    Dam right

    m.
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    m.

    tell these useless a**-holes what to suck on.

    K G
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    K G

    No one is going to comply. Thousands of new instant felons. Once reaching that status, why obey any laws at all?