Close Vote: Fargo ND Investigates Removal of Zoning Ban on Selling Firearms

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Fargo ND Investigates Removal of Zoning Ban on Selling Firearms

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- When some city residents of Fargo, North Dakota, applied to renew their Federal Firearms License (FFL), they were denied. The reason? Fargo had placed a ban on residential sales of firearms in 2001. Because the information in our digital society is so easily available, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, (BATFE) knew of this prohibition and was enforcing it.

In Fargo, North Dakota, the city commission considered removing the two-decade old ban on the commercial sale of firearms from a residence. The ban was put in place as part of a planning and zoning code.  The City Commission meeting was held on 27 January, 2020. The discussion starts at about 8:00 in the video.

North Dakota has a strong preemption law, which prohibits local governments from passing restrictions on the exercise of Second Amendment rights.

The zoning code appears to violate the state preemption law. Some case law argues zoning law is exempt from state preemption. This may be the case when the law applies to all commercial sales, not  to  firearms sales alone.

Commissioner Tony Gehrig explained how a person transferring firearms through an FFL generally worked to provide a useful service.

A predominant question was: Why was this added to the code in 2001?  No one was certain. It was implemented by an ordinance amendment. Deputy Mayor & City Commissioner Dave Piepkorn thought it might have been about someone commercially reloading shotgun shells in their garage.  Piepkorn stated:

My opinion, I am not comfortable with a gun store in my neighborhood. I don't want to get into the whole Second Amendment.

Commissioner John Strand seemed dismissive of the idea of exercising Second Amendment rights as antiquated and old fashioned:

I can't imagine why we are doing this. In this culture, in this day and age, do we want guns everywhere? Do we want bullets everywhere? Do we want ammunition everywhere? Do we want everybody packing guns? Is this where we are aiming?

Give the comments above, the votes to investigate the removal of the ban of firearm sales in residential areas were predictable.

Commissioner Piepkorn voted against investigating the possible removal of the ban.

Mayor Mahoney voted to investigate removing the ban.

Commissioner Gehrig voted to investigate the removal of the ban.

Commissioner Grindberg voted to investigate the removal of the ban.

Commissioner Strand voted against investigating the removal of the ban.

It was a close vote, with two votes against and three in favor of the decision.  This is in North Dakota and is a dubious ban on people being allowed to have a Federal Firearms license in their home. As Commissioner Gehrig noted, most FFLs in residences are for facilitating the purchase of firearms through the mail and over the Internet. An FFL in a residential area does the required background check with the FBI to facilitate the sale, just as a gun store anywhere else. Most neighbors of people with FFLs do not even know the neighbor has an FFL. This facilitates residents of the state in their legal purchase of firearms not commonly carried or available in the local gun store.

Private citizens have the right to reload all the shotgun shells they desire without a Federal Firearms License. They are prohibited from selling them for profit unless they have the proper federal license.

In Fargo, the City Commissioners are all voted for at large, by the whole city. There are four City Commissioners and the Mayor on the City Commission.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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I worked for a small city police dept. (30 officers), and every year the city would hire an outside agency to print “updated pages with city ordinance changes”. I was one of the officers that the mayor asked to review those pages to ensure they were correct. I found many ordinances that were changed, or just added in that were NEVER passed by council. I have a feeling other cities do this too, and someone somewhere is just sticking in things that THEY think should be in there. Could be how that zoning ord. got changed originally. Someone should go… Read more »

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“In this culture, in this day and age, do we want guns everywhere? Do we want bullets everywhere? Do we want ammunition everywhere? Do we want everybody packing guns?” In many respects, welcome to the State of Oklahoma. Today I attended a gathering along with 86 other individuals; White, Black, Latino, Asian, American Indian, Pacific Islander male and female young and old. Every one of them carried a gun and fired at least 200 rounds during a five hour time period and there was not one hostile act or word. Some would say truly amazing; no, just another Saturday in… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

Why is the BATFE enforcing local zoning law? Why does BATFE get to choose between the local zoning and the state pre-emption statute? Pure corruption!

donfranko
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donfranko

Excellent question.

StLPro2A
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StLPro2A

Issuing a FFL requires compliance with local law and codes. If your local zoning prohibits a type of commerce in your home, BATFE will not issue the FFL.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@StL, the state preemption law is also local. Why does BATFE get to choose between the state preemption law and a zoning law? Are BATFE bureaucrats judges, now?
If the state preemption law precludes that type of zoning law, then that part of the zoning law is not law. Or are the states no longer above the counties or cities?

Will
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Will

Over the years I’ve had to get written approval from several HOA’s to give to the ATF for FFL’s. In one instance they even contacted the HOA and tried to convince them to deny approval even after granted. I haven’t had that issue for years now!

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, Curious. Sounds like one of those BATFE dirty tricks.

Will
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Will

@WB,dirty tricks,deceit,and lies is the only way they roll. ABOLISH THE ATF!

Vern
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Vern

Those who take their freedoms for granted, throw away those freedoms out of pure ignorance of the price paid for such freedoms. Such people have no business being in public office.

klev
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klev

Paragraph 2 mentioned a video though there was no link. So I went to look for it. Go to the Fargo city commission page: https://fargond.gov/city-government/departments/city-commission Then you click on the tab for meeting videos.

USA
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USA

“I can’t imagine why we are doing this. In this culture, in this day and age, do we want guns everywhere? Do we want bullets everywhere? Do we want ammunition everywhere? Do we want everybody packing guns? Is this where we are aiming?”

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes and Yes, it’s not where were “aiming” but where we have always been as a country and were not changing just because some assholes get elected and fraudulently assume the role of King Jerk Off. Throw the son of a bitch out of office.