That’s Not Safety. Va. Gun Banners Threaten Police Punishment, National Guard Enforce

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By Larry Keane

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USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- They’re telling us it’s about public safety, that Virginia must have strict California and New York-style gun control to make our communities safer.

Do not believe them. The mask is off. It was never about public safety. It was never about safer communities. Gov. Ralph Northam and his fellow gun-control Democrats pushing for dispossession of lawfully owned firearms aren’t doing this to make Virginia better. They’re doing this as a naked power grab.

Punish Police

The latest legislation pre-filed for the upcoming 2020 session is proof. Democrat Delegate Lee Carter of Manassas sponsored HB 67, which would apply to any law enforcement official, noting that those who “willfully refuses to perform the duties of his employment,” will be terminated and ineligible for future law enforcement employment for another year.

The bill was filed just days after Gov. Ralph Northam warned against the more than 100 counties and municipalities that already adopted Second Amendment or Constitutional sanctuary resolutions. Northam offered a veiled threat that any law enforcement agency that doesn’t get on board with enforcing his gun grab would see their funding or authority revoked. “If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be consequences, but I’ll cross that bridge if and when we get to it,” Northam told reporters.

It all centers on the gun control Gov. Northam promised. He said if he could get the legislature to flip from a very narrowly held Republican lead in both the House of Delegates and state Senate to Democrat, he could force through draconian gun control. Anti-gun billionaire Michael Bloomberg dumped $2.5 million and the statehouse is now narrowly Democrat, with a 21 to 19 majority in the state Senate and 55 of 100 seats in the House of Delegates.

Turn Them In

That’s hardly landslide territory, but enough that Democratic State Sen. Richard L. Saslaw pre-filed SB 16, to prohibit the sale, transfer and possession of so-called “assault firearms” and certain standard magazines. Violating the measure would be a state felony. That means to avoid running afoul of the law, law abiding citizens who currently own these firearms would need to get rid of them or surrender them to the government.

Gov. Northam tried to quell the uproar as sanctuary county resolutions passed county-by-county. His spokesperson said the governor would include a “grandfather clause” that includes a “requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period.”

No one could blame Virginians for not trusting the governor. Registering their legally owned firearms would give the state government a database of where they need to go to confiscate them later. That’s not exactly conspiracy theory thinking. Gov. Northam previously said outright confiscation was on the table when he told reporters in November, “That’s something I’m working [on] with our secretary of public safety.”

Electorate Speaks, Politicians Threaten

Now, the governor is scrambling. The electorate is up on arms, quite literally, and his gun control allies aren’t allaying fears. They’re stoking serious constitutional concerns. Virginia Attorney General Mark Herring dismissed the legal standing of Second Amendment referendums, but in doing so dismissed the will of the people taking part in the democratic process and voicing displeasure with their government. He downplayed the legislation as just simple background checks, but demanded, “So, when Virginia passes these gun safety laws that they will be followed, they will be enforced.”

Democratic Congressman Donald McEachin wasn’t helping. He suggested Gov. Northam call out the Virginia National Guard to enforce the ill-received gun restrictions. He somehow forgot two things. Cam Edwards of Bearing Arms noted that if Gov. Northam were to do it, he’d be the first sitting “governor to use the National Guard to prevent the exercise of a constitutional right since Orval Faubus called out the Guard in Arkansas to keep black students out of a Little Rock high school.”

He’d also be turning Virginians against their fellow citizens, many of whom, are undoubtedly gun owners, ironically carrying actual assault rifles to disarm owners of legally owned modern sporting rifles.

This push for gun control in the Old Dominion isn’t about making the Commonwealth safer. The anti-gun rhetoric and attack on Constitutionally protected American rights are pushing Virginians to an untenable choice. Virginians are being forced to choose between exercising their rights and protecting themselves and their families or surrendering their freedoms at the end of a gun. It’s ironic, for a state that has the motto of “Sic Semper Tyrannus,” or thus always to tyrants.


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Warlok11
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This is absolutely correct, but the thing is it is already too late. When the BRADY BILL was passed, that was the first foundational brick in the 2nd amendment that was destroyed. It was used to disenfranchises people of color, and it was applauded enthusiastically, because no one thought it would carry over th the majority citizenry (whites). Allowing the gov’t to GRANT YOU PERMISSION TO HAVE OR CARRY A FIREARM, WHEN IT IS YOUR RIGHT, WAS THE STUPIDEST THING EVER. Now that they are going to treat whites just like they treated blacks, and browns, NOW YOU WANT SOME… Read more »

RoyD
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RoyD

It is like having our own minstrelsy.

gunnerdd517
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Just another punk,thug as Governor. Buzz off, Northam.

Grim
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Grim

Get a rope!

Old Ch.E.
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Old Ch.E.

Don’t ruin a new one.

Doszap
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Doszap

If they bring in any outsiders then they have NO CLUE what normal Virginians will do them.
NO MERCY.
To kill a deadly snake you CUT it’s head off.

Possum1500
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Possum1500

Should not his threats be seen as “Terroristic”???

Possum1500
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Possum1500

And if so, should he not be arrested for Terroristic Threats against the people in VA?

gunnerdd517
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his threats are also racist and divisive.

Doszap
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Doszap

He’s already getting ready to sign off on TREASONOUS SO called laws.

Doszap
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Doszap

Sadly this will put targets on regular LE.
Time to get new jobs gents and ladies.
RED FLAG LAWS are not Constitutional on several levels within the BOR’s.

Possum1500
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Possum1500

“If we have constitutional laws on the books and law enforcement officers are not enforcing those laws on the books, then there are going to be consequences, but I’ll cross that bridge if and when we get to it,” Northam told reporters. THEN HE WOULD BE BREAKING THE CONST. LAW OF THE 2ND AMENDMENT!! THE CONSTITUTION IS WE THE PEOPLE !!!!

Doszap
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Doszap

Northam needs to be reminded HE is not Superman.

Doszap
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Doszap

This prick IF he signs the laws they have PROPOSED is GUILTY OF TREASON.
Also he should dealt with accordingly.
He’s Broken the oath he took in the Military(not temporary you clown),for mammon) the second he put’s his name on ANY pf these UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.

Doszap
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Doszap

You have zero argument with me USA.
Also why wait in your home to be murder for noncompliance?,Bullshit,have a plan keep a watch,hit them before they hit you.BUT, only if they come to you first.
Kicking sleeping dogs is not smart.

Arizona Don
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Arizona Don

So the Virginia government is saying with California and New York-style strict gun controls Virginians will be safer? Has anyone checked the real records. Every city in the United States that has extremely restrictive gun laws (most run by so called democrats) the crime rates are much higher then where gun restrictions are less. That is just a fact backed up by the records of those cities. The proof is right in front of us all we have to do is look. In any case that is a lie that has been used to install strict gun control laws all… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

They are IDIOTS,anyone with a brain has to do is check the CRIME rates in every large DEMOCRAT controlled city.

Doszap
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Doszap

No, as a matter of fact they are usually MUCH higher.

Bill N
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Bill N

I sincerely hope and pray that the goings on in Virginia will shine a very bright light on what can happen when voters stay home and don’t vote. This very act by the antigun lobby can only stop when we all stand up and refuse to sit by and allow crap like this to happen. I don’t care how much money Bloomberg throws into the game, WE control our own destiny. If you didn’t vote, shut up. When the antiguners take control of any state government what’s going on in Virginia can and will happen in your home state. Virginia… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

True on the no voting, but WE are sick and tired of being miked to death for donations to HOPE someone will help KEEP what they did not give to US, and CANNOT take away.
The 2nd Amendment doesn’t give Americans any rights to keep and Bear Arms(it was put into the BOR’s,to TELL the FEDS where to STEP OFF).
Our rights were given by GOD ALMIGHTY.(it’s natural Law)
6000yrs of history proves that.

HoosierSheepdog1954
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HoosierSheepdog1954

First, both McEachin and Northam would be violating Virginia’s state constitution AND the U.S. Constitution with this so-called “enforcement” regarding the 2nd Amendment. Second, a soldier is under NO obligation to obey Northam’s orders to either enforce or confiscate legally owned firearms, in accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice (the rules and regulations by which all branches of the military must operate) which states that a soldier must obey all “…LAWFULLY given orders by a superior officer” up to, and including, the President of the United States (emphasis mine). The inference, there. is that it is a soldier’s… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

It’s called TREASON.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Dos, It may be called TREASON, but it is not. It is betrayal … a monstrous betrayal.

Superman
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Superman

You are splitting hairs.

Capn Dad
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Capn Dad

“Don’t fire unless fired upon; but if they mean to have a war let it begin here.” – CPT John Parker at Lexington Green 19 April 1775. Outnumbered 7 to 1 they stood their ground for freedom.

Doszap
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Doszap

News on the ground in Richmond has ANTIFA spotted and MS 13 Gang members there along with Black Lives Matter.
Paid for by SOROS and or Bloomberg.
Sent to set up a FAKE blame the Virginians for any violence.
BEWARE they are ready to cause a stink.

Vern
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Vern

If this is true, the American people have proof positive that the democratic party has admitted it is part of the criminal elements of the US. No big secret, they have been for the last 50 years.

Jb86
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Jb86

What they are not considering is that the National Guard is a force of citizen soldiers, everyday working class Americans, construction workers, Law Enforcement, industrial plant hands etc. who most of are gun owners. Not only do they own gun but there friends, there family, their neighbors, their co-workers. Their not just going to simply fallow orders to to go around and start collect guns from friends and family and their not going to turn their own guns in. I myself have served 15 years in the Guard. Guardsmen have swore to uphold the constitution, and defend against threats foreign… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

Then a trial and hang him.

gunnerdd517
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gotta be a fair trial, then hang him !

Littlejohn1411
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Littlejohn1411

Everything in the Constitution and Bill of Rights that proves these laws and actions are illegal and punishable doesn’t mean jack to these dictators playing politicians.They don’t care about our rights and freedoms, it’s pretty damn obvious. The founders warned us what could happen and put in writing what would need to be done to restore America to Constitutional freedom. Unfortunately what, maybe 80% of Americans have no idea what’s in the Constitution and Bill of Rights, have no idea what they have lost and are about to lose.

Doszap
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Doszap

We know that,that’s why this is THE LINE IN SAND for 2A supporters,if you plan on Bench warming STAY the hell home.
As VA goes so goes the rest of America.
My state Texas has 36+ counties now listed as 2nd Amendment Counties(not Sanctuary,as we do not want to be thrown in with the slobs in Cali).
My county just signed on November,we have a population of over a million.
Moire will sign on daily here.
Thankfully we have a great Governor and AG.

Superman
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Superman

For now, you do. In ten years, you won’t.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

“… Lee Carter of Manassas sponsored HB 67, which would apply to any law enforcement official, noting that those who “willfully refuses to perform the duties of his employment,” will be terminated and ineligible for future law enforcement …” So the state of VA is taking over the local PDs, now!

It is pretty easy to serve a warrant and not find anything that is listed on the warrant.

Link
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Link

The minute ralphie uses the guard or cuts any utility we win as it will prove to everyone that he and the rest of the anti-gun people are no different than the socialist party in other countries.
Push him to do his illegal things and recall them all or march on the state Capitol and forcefully remove them from office after they unleash there bs laws.

Make them become the monster we know they are.

Doszap
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Doszap

TYRANNICAL MARXISTS.

esquire
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esquire

Here we go…..Buckle up everyone !

MICHAEL J
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MICHAEL J

Tyrants keep getting elected or reelected and we continue to allow them to break their oath of office. If the Constitution is the law of the land why aren’t these treasonous politicians challenged and removed from position?
Instead, our system is rigged to prevent just that.
Term limits could be our only solution, but lifetime career politicians know that’s no going to happen on their watch.

Tionico
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Tionico

Term limits won’t fix stupid lazy voters. Witness: the four new congressdames, often referred to as “The Squad”. Even if none of them manage to get reelected (indeed, if all of them survive their first term without serious charges and felomy prison time) there are thousand more just like them, waiting in the wings to be pushed by someone’s deep pockets and railroaded into office. Bloomie’s Bux aren’t the only ones out there. That AOC creature won some sort of contest based on screen appeal, and was launched into her political career, such as it is. far too many voters… Read more »

Superman
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Superman

Term limits are already enshrined in our Constitution. They are called elections and are held on a regular basis. The REAL problem is most citizens can’t be bothered to get off of their collective fat azzes to bother to REGISTER to vote, much less cast a ballot. ‘We have met the enemy and he is us’ – Pogo.

Justista
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Justista

This is after the court rules that the owner is a danger to themselves or others.
If directed at mentally unstable, the criminally violent and not abused I’m not sure it is a bad thing.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@J, Does the accused get to attend and participate in the hearing before the court rules? Call witnesses? Cross examine the accuser? Would you want to be treated that way?

JoeUSooner
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JoeUSooner

It certainly IS, indeed a “bad thing” under any circumstances… precisely BECAUSE of the very real potential for absolutely unlimited abuse.

Doszap
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Doszap

Dude,
If I know you, ALL I have to do is CLAIM you are a danger to me, or someone else.Plus the there is NO DUE PROCESS and the accused has NO RIGHT to face their accuser.
This is so wrong on SO many levels it’s beyond belief.

Tionico
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Tionico

nearly every state has had laws on the books providing for a court ordered (upon presentation of facts to support, just as with any other warrant) detention and eveluation for UP TO 72 hours, at which time the facility examining the subject must make a determination as to whether the subject is mentally unfit to be roaming about in society without a custodian, or is indeed fit to do so. If the former, he will be committed involuntarily for indicated treatment. He then loses his right to arms until/unless released as “normal” and/or “cured”. If released as norma,, his guns… Read more »

Ryben Flynn
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Ryben Flynn

Using the State National Guard to enforce State Laws violates the Posse Comitatus Act. When has the Army or Air Force been used “to execute the laws”? Existing case law and commentary indicate that “execution of the law” in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act occurs (a) when the armed forces perform tasks ordinarily assigned NOT to them but to an organ of civil government, or (b) when the armed forces perform tasks assigned to them solely for purposes of civilian government. While inquiries may surface in other contexts, such as the use of the armed forces to fight forest… Read more »

gregs
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gregs

virginia hb67 is almost the anthesis of what we are facing here in florida. here the legislature has established firearms preemption law penalties that allow for fines and removal from office for politicians who violate said laws but the leftist’s are challenging the law in court because they don’t like firearms. they claim it is a safety issue, but deny the statistics that prove where there are more firearms there is less crime. psychosis. they want law-abiding citizens to become felons the instant they cross an invisible line on the map so then they can prohibit them from possessing firearms.… Read more »

Will Flatt
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Will Flatt

DO NOT COMPLY! They can’t possibly arrest MILLIONS of Americans… And if we lawfully resist their gun grabbing with reasonable force by the millions, who are they gonna call?? Ghostbusters?

Littlejohn1411
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Littlejohn1411

@USA The Dems are already screaming impeach him for killing an enemy of the US!

Will Flatt
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Will Flatt

The fact that Dems cry foul when we kill an evil, committed enemy of Western Civilization and of America; or cry foul when a good guy with a gun thwarts what might have become an absolute bloodbath in a church (while openly sympathizing with the dead perp), and criticizing that the law protected the hero for shooting the perp;

…tells you all you need to know about these traitorous, tyrannical, Anti-American, communist, morally degenerate, evil, MS-13-loving crowd of human excrement!!

ras52
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ras52

WF, right on!

Doszap
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Doszap

I have doubts about TRUMP, if he wins (which he should easily in 2020’s election, (my gut feeling is we are going to see a DIFFERENT TRUMP).
Center LEFT,he will be free to do anything he wants,so expcet a RED FLAG BILL NATIONWIDE after he wins.
If HE doesn’t win, then that’s an easy call if the Marxists get control they we will have a Revolution.As simple as it gets to be.
Enough is Enough

Superman
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Superman

Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched.

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

WF III% of this country’s population is just under 10 million people. On the payroll LEO has been placed at 946,000 or so for the entire country. NG in VA has told Gov BlackFace to stuff it. Figures I have heard are 75% or better of those LEO will not comply either. One would have to figure the other 49 states NG will not comply as well. Here in the US we apparently own 46% of the worlds 1 billion guns.

We just need to flex that muscle.

Will Flatt
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Will Flatt

Commiecrats keep infringing, I keep reloading…
I honestly believe that their astounding lack of self-awareness is going to trigger a shooting civil conflict – CW2 – and it’s gonna be VERY lop-sided.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

By every act that defines a tyrant” Tyranny and treason comes with a very permanent consequence that is legally binding. On day someone is going to put legislators, judges, governors, lawyers, enforcers and any who would finance them up on charges. They MUST be tried in the courts. They MUST be put to death when found guilty. If these things don’t happen, if these things don’t happen soon, you can bet there will be citizens who will settle out of court. Make note of the tyrants and those who are treasonous. Keep their names, addresses, phone numbers, e mail etc.… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DB, While I like your point, none of that adds up to treason. What you describe is betrayal. Please see US Constitution, ArticleIII, Section3, Clause 1.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Is not treason an attack against the citizenry? An attack upon the basic core values of our constitution that define us as a nation and separate the values of one nation vs another nation.. Treason, a refusal, wither incompetent or willful, of disavowing of one’s oath to the nation, the people and/or the constitution. A treasonous leader who willfully conducts attacks on the citizen’s rights as clearly defined in Scripture and the constitution is just that — treason. Attacks come in many vises. Taxes used as a weapon against the citizenry in order to effect a political stance. Verbal attack,… Read more »

Tionico
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Tionico

Nope. Wish it were so, but it is not. READ the cited section of the US Constitution. Making war means applying force. Raising taxes is not treason. Confiscating arms and supplies, is, or can be. Taking individuals captive without applying the due processes and upholdlng the rights guaranteed the people is. Blocking passag or travel to places without just cause is. Northam’s new game, IF he were to actually enforce his unlawful acts backed up with lethal force, certainly would be treason. In any case, he IS already guilty of a charge of felony perjury for swearing his oath of… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DB, Treason is the only crime specifically defined in the Constitution. Please see US Constitution, Article III, Section3, Clause 1.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

W.B. If that is not treason — betraying one’s country, one’s oath to the nation, the people, the constitution, I don’t know what is. I hope this helps. I did look it up, just to make sure.

Arm up, carry on.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DB, Yes, betrayal, but does not met the requirements of the Constitution. Thinking about a CMMG Banshee.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

If that is not betraying one’s country, I don’t know what is.

Arm up, carry on

freedom isnt cheap
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freedom isnt cheap

“….and shall NOT be infringed upon….”what part do you not get?……Hot Muzzle First

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@USA, PDs have no jurisdiction outside their city. Just another reason to flee the cities. Restore the Republic.

Doszap
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Doszap

“THINKING” has gotten a lot of folks in deep shit over their LIVES.

Gene Ralno
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Gene Ralno

Virginia may turn red again. Thanks coonman. Bye-bye democrats.

Doszap
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Doszap

He’s done a SLAM bang job of getting a lot of NEW RED voters, that were before Fence Sitters.
Once again, Bloomturd and SorrySoros,have had a MAJOR backfire.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

Gentlemen, I sure hope that you are, both, right. Had not Virginians sat their big fat couches, during the last election, they would not be in this predicament.

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

WB, some of us voted and are used to being overruled.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DiF, I quibble not with those who voted. If every person eligible to vote, that thinks like you would have voted, then I am confident that VA would have been in good rig.

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

Aw heck WB, i wasn’t thinking that you were pointing at me. I agree entirely. If we’d had people get off their comfortable butts we wouldn’t be in the trouble we’re headed for. It just makes me sick to think of what’s to come. The Bonehead in Charge can’t imagine that everyone won’t just roll over and by the time he realizes the error, there’s going to be a lot of blood spilt. That’s one of the problems with dealing with a lot of Dr.s. They’re used to having people just do what they’re told. The God Complex thing is… Read more »

ras52
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ras52

Gene, we sure hope so!

RoyD
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RoyD

As far as the Governor and his lackeys are concerned, I would put forth this slight variance of a saying from my youth. “Screw them and feed them fish heads.”

Perry G
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Perry G

Article 2, Section 6 of the Second Amendment;
Any government employee that attempts to unlawfully and unconstitutionally confiscate your weapons is therefore no longer a government employee, but a criminal and is guilty of treason against this nation. You are authorized to use deadly force against said people.

You better not ever surrender, and you had better defend yourselves against this satanic little despot!

Heart of Texas
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Heart of Texas

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Please point out to me the 2d article of this amendment, or even the 1st article.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@HoT, Perry’s language sounds reminiscent of 42 USC 5207 (a)(1-4) in pertinent part. Certainly not the Second Amendment, but he has his finger on the pulse. He just needs to get his legal references corrected. And some credit for enthusiasm!

Doszap
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Doszap

Thank you Perry, MOST of us older folks knew this already,when this type of Tyranny rears it’s UGLY head WE THE PEOPLE are as usual RIGHT.

tetejaun
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tetejaun

When Gov. Ralph Northam is tearing up the Constitution, will he be wearing his familiar Black Face or his KKK robes & hood? Northam, like all democrats, is a racist. Funny how his activities did not preclude him from being ‘guv-nor’. Two set of rules…one for communist racist democrats, one for Republicans. The democrat party was created to support & expand slavery. The democrats created the Ku Klux Klan to murder & terrorize slaves and murder the freed slaves and the Republicans that freed them. While signing the “Great Society bill”, LBJ said “We will have those ni&&ers voting democrat… Read more »

Tionico
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Tionico

can you imagine the fury it would engender if ten thousand people showed up at the State Capitol in blackface to protest Northam’s treason?

Doom
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Doom

Spot on. The National Guard might be “technically” state but they are a part of the U.S. Armed Forces to be used as needed. None of this really matters when you are dealing with tyrants anyway. It’s not as if they care about the law or the constitution.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Doom, the NG is under Title 32 and controlled by the various states, until federalized, pursuant to Title 10. Then the NG take their place beside the regular Army and Army Reserves.

Quatermain
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Quatermain

Dear Virginia; look at this as an opportunity to completely remove such tyrants from your political landscape.

tetejaun
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tetejaun

As is their Constitutional Right & Duty.

Paul71
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Paul71

I don’t know how the National Guard handles enlistments now, but during the early post draft era we were allowed to resign from the Guard if we had already fulfilled our military obligation prior to joining. When the draft ended, the Guard started a drive to enlist recently discharged veterans to fill the ranks by making promises that they didn’t fulfill . I wasn’t given the promotion promised and resigned . At the end of the one year enlistment they mailed my Honorable Discharge. Does anyone know if this rule still in effect now ? If so certainly members would… Read more »

Finnky
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Finnky

@Paul71 – Why leave when one can do so much more good working from within?

Ryben Flynn
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Ryben Flynn

The Posse Comitatus Act forbids the State National Guard from enforcing State Laws. “When has the Army or Air Force been used “to execute the laws”? Existing case law and commentary indicate that “execution of the law” in violation of the Posse Comitatus Act occurs (a) when the armed forces perform tasks ordinarily assigned NOT to them but to an organ of civil government, or (b) when the armed forces perform tasks assigned to them solely for purposes of civilian government. While inquiries may surface in other contexts, such as the use of the armed forces to fight forest fires… Read more »

Finnky
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Finnky

@RF – My understanding is that Posse Comitatus forbids Federal use of military in civilian roles. National Guard is a state unit utterly uninhibited by said federal law. In fact the governor may utilize them pretty much in any manner within their own state and can call upon adjacent states for assistance as well. If POTUS nationalizes them (calls them for federal duty) – then they would not be available for state use for the duration. If NG leadership is given unlawful orders they have a duty to refuse those orders. So there are two reasons to be hopeful that… Read more »

Tionico
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Tionico

So if Trump were to call up Virginia’s Guard and nationalise them, then order them to stand down, Northam would have had the ultimate Trump card played upon his megalomaniacal petulant little self? That would be “preshus” to watch. I think the highest up the food chain Northam can get under the lawful authority he has would be to mobilise the State Police, whatever they are called, and put them into motion to do his evil bidding. I would guess there are fewer than a thousand sworn officers in tht outfit, though. And spread throughout the state, that’s pretty thin.… Read more »

option31
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option31

Black face Northam supports murder – we’ll keep the baby comfortable while mom and Dr’s discuss/decide if the baby will be allowed to live. So his ideas on weapons confiscation are right in line with what a murderer and criminal would want to make their trade safer.