California Sheriff Supports Gun Owner Privacy After Newspaper Requests Records

Opinion By Larry Keane

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California Sheriff Supports Gun Owner Privacy After Newspaper Requests Records

USA – -(AmmoLand.com)- If law-abiding gun owners needed another reason to be dubious of why their firearms ownership should be made public, the San Francisco Chronicle recently provided it. Fortunately, Sutter County Sherriff Brandon Barnes was strong on the side of gun-owners and did right.

Earlier this year on Jan. 10th, the San Francisco Chronicle sent a public records request to Sherriff Barnes demanding to know personal information about concealed carry permit applications and current permit holders. No surprise here, but the newspaper did not say why the info was needed. However, the Chronicle felt that information was crucial to the 22 million monthly readers it reaches as one of the top-five largest newspapers on the West Coast.

Pound Sand

Sheriff Barnes balked, sticking to his guns (and gun owners) as a strong protector of law-abiding American citizens’ Second Amendment rights. The county council advised against withholding the information and said he needed to provide some of the data. Sheriff Barnes did one better. He sent a proactive letter to concealed carry permit applicants and permit holders that some of their information was given to the press, even though he “personally declined” to do so.

This is a poignant reminder why gun owners should be leery of public registries of their gun ownership.

Doxing Gun Owners – Again

This incident smacks of the time when the New York Journal News published an interactive map showing the home locations of concealed carry permit holders following the passage of Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s disastrous SAFE Act. That article was taken down after a massive national backlash.

The San Francisco Chronicle has yet to disclose why they need the names and detailed personal information of concealed carry applicants and permit holders. Instead, when confronted, they resorted to deflection and virtue signaling in their response stating they were, “deeply disturbed by how some sheriffs have handled the common request” by a “respected and established news outlet.”

Fortunately for the law-abiding firearms owners in California, Sheriff Barnes said he’ll continue to give proactive notice to permit holders and applicants when these requests are made.


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tsimpson
tsimpson
4 months ago

How is releasing the names of the CCW holders “sticking to his guns”?
Sounds like he caved in to me.

Gdubb
Gdubb
4 months ago

Believe it or not, the vast majority of California is RED by area. Sutter County, although close to the bay area, is a deep RED county. Sheriffs in these Counties do well by leaning conservative, as seen here. FOIA does not apply to all information, but it may apply to certain aspects of it, such as the number of CC license holders in a county but not their individual names and addresses. I believe the Sheriff here did what he could to stop the communists from gathering ANY information, however, his power is limited in this regard. Sheriffs unfortunately do… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago
Reply to  Gdubb

Start a “Split California” movement, like the counties in Va wanting to Split Va and join WVA! It is Constitutional and can be done. But voting enmass would be cheaper and easier!

Arizona Don
Arizona Don
4 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Don’t count on that!

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

There was such a movement in the 60s or 70s. The Northern Counties would have been the state of Franklin.

Arizona Don
Arizona Don
4 months ago
Reply to  Gdubb

You are absolutely correct and I am very aware of California’s conservative majority in “area” the problem there is the big cities. So many people live there they have the majority vote. Furthermore, the big cities people are controlling and ruining that beautiful state. There is little doubt in my mind people will soon, if they are not already, begin moving out of that state. That is very sad because it was once a great and wonderful state. Now quite frankly it sucks. Sorry!

Tionico
Tionico
4 months ago
Reply to  Arizona Don

the old”DustBowl” migratioinis definitely “stuck in reverse”. I can’t remember the numbers or the cite, but California is one of abot five states that annually decreases in population by emigration. One pice specifically on California even gets into the socio-economic breakdown of WHO is leaving. The picture that one paints is not a pretty one. California will ,before too m,uch longer be left with the welfare recipients, the illegal foreign invaders (pease excuse the redundancy), and the higer-ups in the big tech companies that are the geenpower generation system of the state (green as in $$$$$, though the other “greenies”… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
4 months ago
Reply to  Arizona Don

@AZ-Don – I rented a U-Haul trailer to move some of my Mom’s stuff out of state. Finding a trailer was a pain. Was assured by the people working for U-Haul that they couldn’t keep equipment in California as demand from people moving out of state greatly exceeded those bringing equipment back. So yes – people are fleeing CA in droves. Can also see this in Texas by paying attention to immigrants – Californians everywhere. Since shortly after trump proposed his wall, I’ve been requesting that it be put somewhere between us and California along with SAMS systems for full… Read more »

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  Arizona Don

Same in Washington. The Puget Sound cities have forced many shitty things down our throats including I-1639. We’re being Californicated. So is Oregon.

Oldman
Oldman
4 months ago
Reply to  loveaduck

L,A,Du -Fact for sure. WE could out vote them if everyone in every county, except the 4 with all the people would make sure to get out and vote. If you don’t live in one of those counties than it really doesn’t matter to you because you have become sanctuary’d. If you get rid of Inslee, Ferguson and the two female Senators, I think we would actually have a chance. to overturn all of this crap.

Bill
Bill
4 months ago

In California? Who are those permit holders? Common everyday peasants? No, they’re ex LEO and judges and big rich executives and district attorneys. They’re not us, he wasn’t protecting us, he doesnt care about us. He would expose us in a heartbeat. Please, would you wake up!!

Tionico
Tionico
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill

No, Bill, YOU wake up. You do not understand the demographic distribution in California. Nearly every county outside the big Bay Area and So Cal counties, and even a few of those, are SHALL ISSUE by policy for the Mother May I Cards. The sheriffs of these counties WANT their people to be armed everywhere in pubilic, some have even gone on to the loca TeeVee chalens and paid this out very plainly.. we are too few, we NEED YOU to be armed, PLEASE< come in we will belp you get your Mother May I Card. I've seen the numbers… Read more »

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill

@USA, Here is what you are trying to convey: ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice , Obama’s former National Security Adviser. CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes , Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications. ABC News correspondent Claire Shipman is married to former Obama Whitehouse Press Secretary Jay Carney . ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan , Obama’s former Deputy Press Secretary . ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s former Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood. CNN President Virginia Moseley is married… Read more »

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

My brother-in-law is a Mason and I know many more. They do not become Jews in any way, shape or form. Many of our Founders were Masons, some of high rank.

RoyD
RoyD
4 months ago
Reply to  loveaduck

Well, my father’s oldest brother was a Mason. We happened to spend a few hours at his house one time and I read some of the reading material laying around the house. That cemented my views on Freemasonry. I knew I wanted nothing to do with it. And my uncle was a good man. YMMV.

WhiteRose
WhiteRose
4 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

BINGO!

Finnky
Finnky
4 months ago
Reply to  Bill

@Bill – Depends upon which part of California. Sure in Smell-A or other cities you are right. However my understanding is that in California it is local law enforcement who has call as to whether to issue or not and in many rural areas sheriffs pretty much follow shall issue protocols. Given this sheriff’s ostensible 2nd support, I’d guess he’s pretty free with issuing permits. As it stands someone who lives in a rural part of CA can often get a permit which makes carrying anywhere in the state, while someone living in Santa Clara cannot possibly get a permit.… Read more »

Xbar
Xbar
4 months ago

Why does the county council’s advise matter? The Sheriff is an elected position by the people. He calls his own shots. It sounds like getting the council’s advise is something to hide behind. I do think that he is probably bound by law to give the info out.

Tionico
Tionico
4 months ago
Reply to  Xbar

READ for cotnent. The article clearly stated that HE refused when the council advised him to release the data. In California, I believe it is the sheriff’s department in each county manges the Mothe May I Card system in that county. I can’t remember what state law says. in my state that is private information and may NOT be released except for specific recired upon a warrant. If anything he should possibly have refused making the data accessible to the councilcritters. He’s not hiding behind the council, he came out against them and acted accordingly.

nrringlee
nrringlee
4 months ago

Progressives and leftists will never, ever give up their broad assault on liberty. Here is one more example. This has been tested in both federal and state courts and has failed each time. Your right to privacy outweighs your neighbors feelings. Simple. But these anti-liberty types keep going from failed theory to failed theory in hopes that something will stick. Rather than focus on reason based solutions they focus on the emotion driven popularly supported, common sense solutions that provide no measurable results but sound good on a bumper sticker. That is not public policy. That is mob rule.

rotten-ron
rotten-ron
4 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

Perhaps you should read: https://www.neh.gov/humanities/2010/januaryfebruary/statement/jewish-pioneers
it may help with your anti-semetic attitude, not all of any group are the same!!

Tionico
Tionico
4 months ago
Reply to  rotten-ron

third post above this one, USA’a screed. Not the first such anti-jew rant I’ve seen from him. Not sure what he’s been on about. Might be as simple as too much caffeine in the morning, but maybe not.

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

Some Jews lean way left. Some go more to the right. Don’t paint with such a wide brush. I know Jews and other minorities who are far right and will die defending the Constitution.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  loveaduck

@loveaduck

Have to give you credit for this comment. Since you came here, this is the most worthwhile and beneficial thing you have posted.

Removing the negative you got.

Knute
Knute
4 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

As I’m removing the negative you got.
“I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” -Revelation 2:9 KJV

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

@wjd The reason is they don’t really care about Jews no matter how many of them claim to be so. As you just said, its an attempt to shield themselves from criticism and nothing more. Exactly the same as Nancy Pelosi saying she’s a catholic, yet she breaks church doctrine all the time(And that is not even pointing out her hypocrisy on a scriptural level). Its a Shame there are people willing to just attack others on race/religion as a result instead of going after the hypocrisy itself and exposing the fact that most of them violate the things they… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
4 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Oh come on Rev, lighten up on Nancy. Half the fun of being a Roman Catholic is getting to break every Commandment and precept of the Bible all day every day then once a week (or more often for the slightly more pious) go into a confessional, tell your tale, and then shuffle off to one of the pews to vainly repeat some words and play with your magic beads. Even Al Capone was a “devout Catholic”.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
4 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

, YES. He was known for regularly going to Mass. But history doesn’t get taught much anymore so I won’t fault you if you really didn’t know this.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
One of the reasons I have a problem with catholocism , and really most denominations in general, is that they do not follow the scripture. Much of the splits that have happened have had to do with human arguments and people following their own itching ears.

Hence, I focus on the hypocrisy inherent in peoples’ actions. It’s the quickest route to exposing them.

RoyD
RoyD
4 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Will Flatt: Your comment reminds me of something I heard in 1977. My wife and I had gone to an upscale restaurant in OKC (no longer in business) for our first wedding anniversary. At a table near us were two older couples and a couple about our age (early twenties). It appeared to be both sets of parents of the younger couple respectively. The one older man was a loud talker and, according to him had a couple hundred employees that worked for his company. He was an important man. As the evening waned on he seemed to just get… Read more »

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
4 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

The real worshipers of Satan are the globalists, and the cult of severed heads & goat rape. Your jew-hate discredits everything you’re saying, USA.

RoyD
RoyD
4 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Someone once said, ” My hate keeps me warm.”

RoyD
RoyD
4 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

I agree with you on that. It takes a lot of effort most of the time. But there are those few for whom I will make an exception.

RoyD
RoyD
4 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

How I handle it is to mentally place them in a box and there are less than a handful. That way it is not consuming and yet accessible when and if I want. Took me about thirty years on this Earth to figure that method out.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
4 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

– I’ve seen that. Robert, ‘Red Dawn’, 1984.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  rotten-ron

@USA The minute you go into “Zionist Israel” statements, that is pretty much just anti-Semitic screed no matter how you look at it. Zionism is the belief in the reestablishment and support of a Jewish state, i.e. Israel. The left and the socialists are anti-Zionists. This might seem hard for you to believe, but before you go accusing others like Tionico about “not being smart enough to see things”, you may want to look into the things you don’t understand first. So, should we now group you in with socialists like Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, and Alexandria Cortez because they… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Yep, figured as much.

Got to love it when they don’t have the balls to respond. They just vote you down because they know you already torpedoed their claims. lol

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
4 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Rev, downvoting is the last petulant act of a butthurt snowflake. They need to rub some salve on it & move on.

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  Will Flatt

Flatt
Yep, I’ve said as much in the past.

Knute
Knute
4 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

With your chosen username, I would’ve expected you to be aware of writings like: “I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” -Revelations 2:9 KJV

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  Knute

@Knute I am, can’t say for USA, but there are times when asking questions or forcing people to think about the context involved in reaching an answer is better than giving them the answer outright. Matthew13:10-17 “10The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” 11He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13This… Read more »

TheRevelator
TheRevelator
4 months ago
Reply to  TheRevelator

Have to love it even more when they cant handle a direct quote straight out of scripture. 🙂

RoyD
RoyD
4 months ago
Reply to  rotten-ron

Thanks, Captain Obvious, come back when you have something of substance, or even just humorous to add.

Wild Bill
Wild Bill
4 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

Elitist, ego maniacs have been trying to enslave people since Sargon I.

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

And before.

WhiteRose
WhiteRose
4 months ago
Reply to  Wild Bill

Thank you brother WB for hitting the head of the nail! The issue is and has always been the ‘Elitist’ amongst us, who are politically identified accurately as politically left or right, liberal or conservative and form parties to advance their political control.

The uniqueness of our Republic is the interesting intended balance between the Power of the State and that of the Individual.

This calling out of Jews as the ‘insects’ that infect our culture(s) now and historically is the most un-Jesus behavior, to wit I say NEVER AGAIN!

Remember the White Rose

Tionico
Tionico
4 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

and just WHICH kids dod YOU know whose parents told them the Beatles were a “Jewish invasion”? ANd what if they WERE? THey certainly did not persist in promiting “jewishness’ for very long. I was around when they first appeared on the Ed Sullivan SHow, and watched that. Then the lcoal rock stations started playing them….. nothing jewish about them or their content. Never was.

loveaduck
loveaduck
4 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

Correct. I was a fan from the beginning. Never heard any of them even mention Jews.

Will Flatt
Will Flatt
4 months ago
Reply to  nrringlee

Well that’s just wrong. Aaron Zelman, every member of JPFO, they’re not commies. Benji Netanyahu is not a commie. Hell, most of Israel aren’t commies, otherwise the whole country would be communist. The most disturbing thing about most Jews (to me) is their apparent unwillingness to abide by the 10 Commandment Law and keep the 7th-day Sabbath holy, and their rejection of the Lord of the Sabbath (Yashua ha’Maschiach), Jesus Christ.

If you and the other antisemites here wanna spout the sort of crap you’re pushing, go to a leftist website where the mudslime-lovers will accept your hatred of Jews.

Finnky
Finnky
4 months ago

It should be noted that even though the sheriff “balked” at turning over the info, he did turn it over.
Guess this is another issue to push at federal level – expand HIPPA laws to cover personally identifiable firearms information. This in addition to reciprocity, HPA and less likely goal of rescinding NFA, GCA and FOPS along with complete federal preemption. If successful, that last could end up a laudable but dangerous victory – lost states would then fight us much harder at federal level.

tetejaun
tetejaun
4 months ago

Compliance is for slaves & sheep.
Compliance is for those who would be ruled.
Compliance will, ultimately, end in death.

I WILL NOT kneel!
I WILL NOT comply!
I am an American and veteran. My Rights are not up for arbitration or subjugation.

Finnky
Finnky
4 months ago

@USA – Thanks for the entertaining read. Nothing new here, it’s NYC – what do you expect? Lucky he didn’t kill any of his victims. Unlucky arresting officers didn’t fear for their lives encountering an armed & armored mugger. Story could have had a perfect ending