FPC Statement on ATF’s Cease and Desist to Q, LLC Honey Badger Pistol

FPC Statement on ATF’s Cease and Desist to Q, LLC Honey Badger Pistol
FPC Statement on ATF’s Cease and Desist to Q, LLC Honey Badger Pistol

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) has issued the following statement regarding ATF’s action against Q, LLC’s (Q) Honey Badger Pistol and its status as a purported short barrel rifle:

ATF has once again unlawfully and unconstitutionally exceeded its authority and changed the law by issuing a new determination that is devoid of logic and reason, contains no explanation as to the manner in which it arrived at its conclusion, conflicts with its prior determinations, and embodies the very essence of “arbitrary and capricious”.

After examining a sample Q Honey Badger Pistol, the ATF’s Firearms and Ammunition Technology Division (FATD) concluded that “the objective features of the Honey Badger firearm, configured with the subject stabilizing brace, indicate the firearm is designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder.” FATD further concluded that it is a SBR as defined by the National Firearms Act (NFA) and Gun Control Act (GCA). Yet, ATF does not explain how it arrived at this conclusion other than vague generalizations that the firearm was “designed” to be fired from the shoulder and by virtue of its barrel length meeting the definition of a SBR.

Earlier this summer, regarding the possible action regarding pistol braces, we said that our “Constitution requires an accountable legislature to enact just laws within specific, limited, and enumerated powers, not decreed by nameless bureaucrats with a political agenda, or even a president.” And when the ATF previously reversed a long-standing and well-understood position that bump stock-type devices were not machine guns, FPC and Firearms Policy Foundation led the charge with the first lawsuit in the nation against ATF’s unlawful and unconstitutional act.

There can be no question that our Constitution requires accountability to coincide with the enactment of laws, and that those laws must be within specific, limited, and enumerated powers, not left to bureaucrats who escape all aspects of responsibility. Once more, we remind ATF and the executive branch that their authority has limits and that, if need be, they will once again be reminded of those limits through legal action.

FPC believes that the ATF, NFA, GCA, and every other law that threatens the People with disarmament and prison for exercising human rights should be abolished. Our legal team will continue to closely monitor this issue and take whatever action is necessary, possible, and prudent to protect the rights of law-abiding gun owners and our members against abusive government agencies and policies.


About Firearms Policy Coalition

Firearms Policy Coalition (www.firearmspolicy.org) is a 501(c)4 grassroots nonprofit organization. FPC’s mission is to protect and defend constitutional rights—especially the right to keep and bear arms—advance individual liberty, and restore freedom.

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F… the ATF!! They are ass backwards. They should eliminate this ENTIRE Dept. They loose on alcohol!! They loose on tabbacco-juana!!! And they loose on my firearms!!!! Defund the ATF!!


Proofreading; it’s not just for kids. But then you might not even know what you did. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Last edited 1 year ago by RoyD

Thanks for having a crush on me:)

Dave in Fairfax

If they were all that loose, they’d be much more liked.



Idaho Bob

So, does this now mean that the hundreds of thousands of AR style pistols that are in the hands of law abiding people are now all illegal?
Has every person that owns one now been made into a criminal in violation of the ATF?
Are all arm braces now considered rifle stocks?
Too many questions left unanswered, inquiring minds want to know.


Old – true – I just saw another article talking about slow joe specifically going after ‘gun’ – and ammo – parts.
Vote accordingly.


NFA ’34 should be repealed. BUT, Q LLC pushed their luck too far. The “brace” they used is in reality a shoulder stock. Q tried an end run around the law, and they lost. It is going to end up changing every one’s rights.


It’s a short barreled “semi-automatic” firearm period, and all semi automatic
firearms are legal. So stop your word games, “Cease & Desist.”