SC: Open Carry Recalled from Judiciary; Full Senate Debate to Come

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SC: Open Carry Recalled from Judiciary; Full Senate Debate to Come, iStock-884217816

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- On 27 April, 2021, the Senate Judiciary subcommittee failed to vote on Open Carry with Training, HB3094. An activist had written, in 2018, the Judiciary committee is where gun reform bills go to die. He seemed to be prescient, from long experience.

Then the unexpected happened.

The Senate voted to recall HB3094 from the Judiciary committee. A recall vote for a bill is not common, but it happens.

This correspondent spoke with Senator Rex Rice, a strong proponent of Constitutional Carry in the South Carolina legislature. He had predicted the subcommittee would approve of HB3094, but if it did not, there would be a recall vote.

Senator Rice was the Republican who had won the primary against Senator Larry Martin, the Republican who previously Chaired the Judiciary committee after Senator Martin had made some less than judicious remarks denigrating open carry. The primary happened in 2016. Senator Rice won by a few hundred votes.  From  an article by this correspondent in 2015:

He had this to say, according to WLTX: 

“You can carry a weapon openly if this bill is adopted and I’m offended by that,” said committee chair Sen. Larry Martin (R-Pickens).

The recall vote was a very strong 27 for and 12 against, with 1 not voting. There are 40 South Carolina senators.

This correspondent asked Senator Rice, with more than a two-thirds vote to recall the bill, wasn’t the passage of the bill almost certain?

The answer showed how complex political maneuvering can be. Senator Rice said about half of those voting to recall the bill were serious proponents of Constitutional Carry. They had told the other half, if they did not obtain something this session, the others would not obtain anything they wanted to pass, either.

It is nearly certain a move will be made to substitute a version of Constitutional Carry (passed by the House as HB3096), for HB3094.

The South Carolina House voted to pass Constitutional Carry with a strong 69 to 47 majority.

Senator Rice believed the votes are sufficient in the Senate to override a filibuster against Open Carry with Training, but not necessarily to override a filibuster on Constitutional Carry. 26 votes are needed in the South Carolina Senate to override a filibuster.

It seems likely Open Carry with Training will pass the Senate, and be signed into law. It is less likely, but plausible, Constitutional Carry will be passed and signed into law.

Senator Rice believes Governor Henry McMaster will sign either bill if they pass the legislature.

Much depends on what is happening in the rest of the nation. South Carolina is one of only five states to ban open carry.  Twenty states have passed Constitutional Carry.  Four of those twenty passed Constitutional Carry in 2021. Both Texas and Louisiana are in play to pass versions of Constitutional Carry in the next few weeks.

In politics, there are trends and waves. With the close and contested election of President Biden, voters and state legislatures feel the need to assert Constitutional rights. Constitutional Carry is riding the wave. Nearly 50% of the land area of the United States is covered by law where adults can carry handguns, openly or concealed, without government permission, in most public spaces.

90% of the states provide for the open carry of handguns in their laws.


About Dean Weingarten:

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

Dean Weingarten

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Ryben Flynn
Ryben Flynn
12 days ago

Pass or not, I really don’t care anymore. If it fails I’ll do my shopping across the Border in NC for taxable goods. Open Carry is legal there with no permit. I only live a few miles from Tabor City, NC in SC near Loris. Even Whiteville is not much longer of a drive than to NMB or Conway. As it is right now my renewed CWP has not arrived yet, so I can’t carry at all in SC until it does. SLED has 90 days to process the renewal and that time runs out at the end of May.… Read more »

Last edited 12 days ago by Ryben Flynn
gandolf
gandolf
12 days ago

Except in the deep blue, gun free zone of NJ.

Laddyboy
Laddyboy
11 days ago
Reply to  gandolf

The DemoKKKratic controlled state of Md. has NO carry RIGHTS for MOST Legal Law Abiding American Citizens! This CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED and ACKNOWLEDGED RIGHT COST MUCHO MONEY to MAYBE(not) get a VERRRRY RESTRICTIVE OPPRESSIVE CONCEALED CARRY permit! Here are the requirements: 1.) You MUST be protecting a federally sanctioned money distributor; 2.) You MUST have COURT DOCUMENTATION PROVING that your life IS IN DIRE DANGER of being HARMED, MAIMED or KILLED; 3.) You MUST own a business – thus you MIGHT be carrying money; Here is the UNSPOKEN FOURTH REQUIREMENT; 4.) You MUST BE a policeman, politician OR have a politician… Read more »

Arny
Arny
10 days ago
Reply to  Laddyboy

Seems I’m going to need to drill down on coworker to see how he obtained one. He drives a tractor & trailer. His license is recognized in PA but yet Md won’t recognize Pa.

nrringlee
nrringlee
12 days ago

It is a Right and not a privilege.

GoodGuy729
GoodGuy729
12 days ago

The Senate bill number for H3094 is S 589. Do we want constitutional carry in SC? Of course. Let’s get this passed this session, then go to work on passage of H3096 the Constitutional Carry Act, and H3012 the second Amendment Protection Act next session. Keep pushing forward, take ground, take ground until we win this battle against the gun control nuts.

nrringlee
nrringlee
12 days ago
Reply to  GoodGuy729

Progressives will resist. The very thought of black men armed scares them.

gandolf
gandolf
12 days ago
Reply to  nrringlee

There are 42 States with legal carry. 8 million women and 11 million men carry legally in those States. One million of those carrying legally are black men and women.

swmft
swmft
12 days ago
Reply to  nrringlee

fdr let his wife have her nig..s , to keep peace at home he thought skin color mad a difference in intelligence and strength of character he had little of either picked Truman because he was harmless and stupid truth is Truman was more intelligent and thoughtful left office because people in washington were curl to his wife

Treedodger
Treedodger
12 days ago

Taking a few minutes to email a single note of support to the collective SC Senate members could make the difference in getting this passed.

https://www.scstatehouse.gov/email.php?T=M&C=SMEMBERS

Grigori
Grigori
12 days ago
Reply to  Treedodger

This sucks ass. It will not work with Google Chrome, one of the most popular browsers currently in use. Is there a way to contact the site admin at that location and have them rectify that shortcoming?

Last edited 12 days ago by Grigori
Treedodger
Treedodger
12 days ago
Reply to  Grigori

I agree. I did lol are a link to site admin, but there is no time. My only thought might be to go to the link on your phone, even if to simply text your support, but I have not tried the form on my phone. You could also download Firefox or Edge browsers.

Treedodger
Treedodger
12 days ago
Reply to  Treedodger

locate a link not lol……

Grigori
Grigori
12 days ago
Reply to  Treedodger

Thank You, Treedodger! I am on my phone. It is all that I have, therefore my intense frustration, not at you, but my inability to use this valuable tool you have provided for our benefit on here. I hope those with browsers other than Chrome on here or the tech savvy who can switch browsers easily will make use of it.

Arny
Arny
10 days ago
Reply to  Grigori

Try downloading Duckduckgo. It works with your Chrome browser also