Congress Demands ATF Stop Secret Rule Changes ~ VIDEO

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -(Ammoland.com)- Both chambers of Congress are sending letters to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) demanding answers regarding the ATF secret rule change surrounding privately manufactured silencers.

Over the past two years, the ATF has been cracking down on solvent traps while saying that the agency does not regulate the devices. The ATF recently sent out a mass rejection notice to around 850 Americans who filed a Form 1 for a tax stamp to make an 80% silencer. The regulatory agency claimed that these applicants used kits or parts that the Bureau already considered suppressors.

The ATF has raided several companies for selling cups and freezer plugs with dimples. The Bureau claimed that these markings could be used for drill guides. Some other companies were raided for selling Chinese-made parts. The ATF even showed up at people’s homes that ordered fuel filters off websites like Wish or Alibaba Express.

The denied Americans, in this instance, had their information forwarded to local field offices for further investigation. The ATF could charge the owners with having unregistered silencers for each part. Having an unregistered silencer is a violation of the Nation Firearms Act (NFA). The ATF would most likely just confiscate the parts.

The ATF asked the applicants who were not initially denied to supply high-resolution pictures of each part, the manufacturing technique used to assemble the silencer, and the store or website that the builder used to acquire the parts. These new requirements are a stark change from the ATF only requiring the maker to supply the length and caliber of the planned suppressor.

The Firearms Regulatory Accountability Coalition (FRAC) helped twenty Republican Senators not only to demand the ATF stop secret rule changes about solvent traps and other kits but for the ATF also to stop rule changes surrounding force reset triggers (FRTs). This letter is the first of two coming out of the Senate destined for the ATF. A second letter covering Form 1 suppressors coming out of the Senate is expected to be unveiled shortly.

ATF Targeting HomeBuilt Silencers

Another letter to the ATF over the secret rule change surrounding homemade suppressors will be sent by the House of Representatives. The letter will be sent from Republican House Judiciary Committee Member Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) and Ranking Member Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH). The American Suppressor Association (ASA) sent out an alert to its members to encourage their Congressional Representatives to sign the letter to the Bureau and the Department of Justice.

The ASA also is asking Congress to demand that the ATF abide by its previous determinations. Many users built approved Form 1 suppressors using kits that the ATF now considers unregistered suppressors. The ASA is concerned that the ATF could revoke American’s approved tax stamps.

The ASA also wants Congress to pass the Hearing Protection Act (H.R.95/S.2050). The HPA would remove the suppressors from the NFA. If silencers no longer required a tax stamp, it would encourage more people to buy hearing-saving devices. In Europe, with some of the most restrictive gun laws in the world, it is considered rude to shoot without a silencer.

AmmoLand News encourages all readers to fill out the ASA’s request to Congress.


About John Crump

John is a NRA instructor and a constitutional activist. John has written about firearms, interviewed people of all walks of life, and on the Constitution. John lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and sons and can be followed on Twitter at @crumpyss, or at www.crumpy.com.

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Arizona

Life went on just fine before 4473’s, when you could order through the sears catalog and get your rifle in the mail.

Wild Bill

Good observation. To get back to where we were is going to take a lot of work and donations. I am hoping that this next election could be the beginning.

swmft

understatement of the decade

Tackleberry

I firmly believe it’s to far gone at this point to resusitate. Sometimes there comes a point where you must tear down to the foundation to rid a home of rot.

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Russn8r

NYAG’s doing 2A a favor. Well meaning members gave NRA ~$350k/yr until recently, wasted-pocketed by corrupt vampires. If she takes NRA out it’ll go to good groups like GOA.

NRA Delenda Est

john

You can still buy a rifle online of from a private seller I do not mind making sure that a new gun is clean $25.00 makes ATF FBI responsible. I do not buy used firearms as you never know where when who did what can’t afford to by new don’t buy it.

swmft

it is funny you use the word clean, I own more than a few weapons that served in wars ,and my work guns from dea all dirty someone was killed with all of them, I guess it is a mater of degree, I honer those that died and pray for the soles lost at sunset ,have done honer guard and stood shiva, and stood in at weddings. a background check does not say gun is clean, just gives the date you received it so if it was used in a crime before you bought it they may decide it could… Read more »

john

To each their own
I do not trust those who will use any excuse to challenge my rights to own a firearm. Clean means new with only my name matching the serial #. From a licensed gun store over the counter used that is not for me. I prefer certain mostly custom shop firearms.
Enjoy your Sunday

john

Hell freedom and how our country obtained that is no longer taught in schools. Ask a eighteen year old about 911 better yet ask a college graduate what richard nixon was impeached for than ask them to say the pledge of allegiance. Hell the boy scouts ar now just scouts. Boys girls gay or not leaders gay or not thats freedom today.

JSNMGC

Ask someone in their 70s or 80s to define socialism and its fundamental tenets. There is a good chance the person will say socialism means gun control. Ask the same person to explain how the U.S. federal progressive tax rate system works. There is a good chance the person will say that “people in the middle” pay the highest rate and that they, as a group, pay the majority of federal income taxes. Ask the same person to calculate the average income tax rate for a given amount of taxable income using published tax brackets. There is a good chance… Read more »

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john

The only thing I ask of people in their seventies and eighties is if I can help them in anyway when asked. Have a little respect. You changed the conversation we are talking about a certain age group that know nothing and would not help their own mothers and fathers.

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JSNMGC

That’s the point, john. You, Wild Bill, and BLUE/Jesse/TEX/Will are hypocrites. You make critical comments about an entire age group and then demand people don’t criticize a certain percentage of people in other age groups.

I should have included people in their 60s.

It’s hysterical.

john

You should include yourself as you changed the narrative you seem narrow minded.
Your Hysterical

Wild Bill

And a know it all, too!

Russn8r

Wow, that’s some impressive projection right there, JesseBLUEJohnTEX. Please hit wiki, pontificate about Cartago Delenda Est & upvote yourself again. Most amusing.

I can smell your socks half a mile upwind and I’m only part Indian!

Russn8r

Dumbass says dumbass.

Deg4u

Fits you very good!

Russn8r

Plus One

Russn8r

“Your hysterical” LOL. Any idea why that’s ironic?

JSNMGC

BLUE/Jesse/TEX/Will – 3/13/22:

“John,you’re right. That clown must be some kind of a nut.”

Response to BLUE/Jesse/TEX/Will:

How long before you delete your posts and come back under yet a different user name?

Russn8r

It’s the WildBlueBillJesseTexWill ‘LEO’ sock puppet vote posse. BLUE is ~WB’s JesseTEX persona. TEX gets whack-a-moled, Jesse appears. Jesse gets whack-a-moled, BLUE appears, sounds almost normal for a while, then slips back into rough name calling. They follow WB around like the apostles of a Hallmark Card philosopher, worship him, dv his enemies. Recall WB saying one of his computers was down?

Over the target. How’s the punch this morning, boys?

JSNMGC

He’s one of the best things about the site.

Russn8r

Guess you don’t like the punch, TEX.

Russn8r

Oh noooo! Not a sock puppet vote beatdown! Not that! Please, please, pretty please? That hurts my feelings!

john

Why would I do that I done nothing wrong here Play nice please life’s lonely when you have no friends.Try a day without conflict hate shortens your life.
Prayer strengthens all you pray for .

Russn8r

Look in the mirror and stop being a hypocrite, Bill.

Wild Bill

At least I can see my reflection in a mirror.

Russn8r

And it looks like a sock. P.S. Thanks for just admitting that “john” = Bill.

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JSNMGC

“Why would I do that I done nothing wrong here” ~ john

Why would you do what? When the threads have multiple responses, it is unclear what you are referring to – that’s why quotes help.

You should follow your own advice about playing nice.

As for me, I will never stop working against totalitarians (and their tools).

When you come to a gun rights board and thank enforcers for enforcing unconscionable gun laws (like concealed carry laws in NYC), expect to receive some push-back.

john

I lived worked in NYC for a good part of my life in some of the worst places in the middle of the night alone. I never had one call to use a firearm. Yes carry laws are very bad in NYS that is who they vote for Always a democrat wins ???????

JSNMGC

“I lived worked in NYC for a good part of my life in some of the worst places in the middle of the night alone. I never had one call to use a firearm. Yes carry laws are very bad in NYS that is who they vote for Always a democrat wins ???????” ~ john Good for you. Some people have been robbed, raped, or murdered. Other people know that people are sometimes robbed, raped, or murdered and they would like to carry a firearm to protect themselves. You thanked the NYPD for enforcing concealed carry laws that prohibit most… Read more »

john

No I was able to obtain a carry in NYS that is pretty hard to do .You have to have clean record play by their rules it is the law in that state. The law does not offended me I do not agree with the rules for personal firearm use in NYS if you want to carry there than you have no choice.

JSNMGC

“No I was able to obtain a carry in NYS that is pretty hard to do .You have to have clean record play by their rules it is the law in that state. The law does not offended me I do not agree with the rules for personal firearm use in NYS if you want to carry there than you have no choice.” ~ john

Most people in NYC cannot get a carry permit and you thanked the NYPD for enforcing the concealed carry permit laws.

Are there any laws you believe enforcers should not enforce?

Wild Bill

His demons will not let him play nice. Self loathing and vitriol ooze out of pores and into his relationships. He seeks out no change even though the Lord knocks at his door. I am afraid that he has lost his soul.

JSNMGC

“His demons will not let him play nice. Self loathing and vitriol ooze out of pores and into his relationships. He seeks out no change even though the Lord knocks at his door. I am afraid that he has lost his soul.” ~ Wild Bill

Oh, my. That sounds serious.

Wild Bill

No, not at all. Don’t change a thing.

john

Prayer maybe it will help I will give it a try he is a tortured soul. I am not sure I would want to got battle with him on our side. If it came down to it No I will try prayer

JSNMGC

“Prayer maybe it will help I will give it a try he is a tortured soul.” ~ john

You and Wild Bill are really going off the deep end today.

Wild Bill

You are a very good man. I would put him on point … every day.

JSNMGC

“You are a very good man. I would put him on point … every day.” ~ Wild Bill

You don’t like disagreement and your feelings are hurt. Tough – this isn’t the Army, and you are not in charge. Deal with it.

Russn8r

He loves having his little sock puppets compliment each other.

Wild Bill

My feeling can not be hurt by some illiterate fool.

swmft

I dont know the group of 70 and 80 year olds you do, my friends all work and likely will till they die , my mother taught students to read and do math after the schools failed to do so as a volunteer tutor until she was 95 , I know she taught some history too but it was as part of the reading/writing program. You get old or older; I choose to get older , as I slow physically I teach more skills to younger people,some still want to learn. just not that many, and sadly many that want… Read more »

Wild Bill

My hat is off to your mom and you.

swmft

This is what built the country, puritan work ethic ,6 days for you one for god. And if you live long enough you try to reach back and make another generation see the light
and yes I am a mayflower descendant, so some of my views are colored by that

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john

Thank you My mother and father sister in fact all of my family were teachers expect myself and a brother. Teaching takes on many hats today and most gets done outside a classroom in the real world.

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swmft

on this I down voted you ,I am closer to 70 than 60 and do know the difference I voted for H Ross Perot the country would have been better off with him, flat tax and no irs smaller government and no bs accepted foreign policy

Wild Bill

Putting septuagenarians and octogenarians on the spot is most disrespectful.

JSNMGC

What about teenagers and recent college graduates?

Wild Bill

The people that came before us built the world that we live in and provided us with a civil society. Therefore they are worthy of some modicum of respect.
College grads should be able to speak for themselves.
Teenagers just know everything, already. One can ask them anything.

JSNMGC

That’s not it, Wild Bill. A certain percentage of the elderly like to make generalizations about people younger than them, but they don’t like it when people make comments that are true about a certain percentage of elderly people. This dynamic plays-out on this website frequently. The fact is, a certain percentage of people in their 70s and 80s: Don’t understand what socialism is; They don’t understand that people born in the late 1800s through the 1950s implemented significant socialist programs in America; They want people who earn more then them to pay a higher tax rate; They continue to… Read more »

john

I am a senior sir and have asked questions of those that work in our company they have little or no work experience most can not complete a task without mistakes. Most think that they’re special do to WOKE and the liberal ideologies. Ask them to do manual labor or to work over time they quit or have a excuse . Count money impossible hand write a letter they have to print the words. clean up around themselves not their job. Now they have to be addressed as non gender and you have and supply a bathroom for them. .… Read more »

JSNMGC

You need to meet a better class of young people.

Just like there are elderly people who know what socialism is and how to do basic math, there are young people who know history, have excellent work ethic, and mercilessly mock those of their generation who are like those you describe.

john

I happen to know some very nice folks of all ages I chose who I let into my life . As per work there are guidelines to hiring question you can not ask you have to wait and see how those you hire are going to workout some take the job then never show up. The older folks that apply come to works dressed and ready to work in the office and can fill out the application most are grateful and require no babysitting. Those in the warehouse are expected to also dress for the environment. Our drivers are union… Read more »

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swmft

spell check got you , into my life. I do not know who wrote the filters but the old correl database was better

Wild Bill

It is making generalizations about a class of people even as he complains that others make generalizations.
I don’t think that IT talks to any seventy and eighty-year-olds. IT just picks generalizations that are difficult to disprove, so that IT can make specious arguments.

Wild Bill

By IT’s own admission, “They don’t want to discuss his views of police, with him.” IT must be very endearing.

Russn8r

More ‘WB’ snarky deflection-projection from issues IT can’t rationally & politely discuss. QED

swmft

a true socialism , problem people do not know the difference, would have every one armed that is able bodied, education is free BUT you have to maintain grades or someone else more able takes your place,(Switzerland,Sweden) it works in these places because immigration is absolutely controlled, path to citizenship non existent for all practical purposes ,the tax issue becomes a non issue when it is about extended family and these countries are. Here it will never work too many different people allowed to not become part of the whole,melting pot is broken. And as for gooberment,federal should have nothing… Read more »

swmft

you dont learn you know nothing till you are around 40

Wild Bill

Yes, embarrassingly, I am quite aware of certain gaps in knowledge, but I rationalize that many of those things did not exist when I was younger. And I take solace in the fact that many young persons can not even read script.

swmft

all the knowledge of the universe is out there we just have to stop an listen and take it in, some is false some is corrupted but with experience we can learn to filter and follow the truth and learn.

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Terry

“Old too soon, Wise too late!”

Oldman

Or when your father passes. Well, for what I hope is the larger % of most of our population……Then there is the TWINS…

Oldman

non approved again…..Man, what did I do wrong? 5 days now and I can’t get a break…

john

I never said anything about folks in their seventies and eighties or was disrespectful We should thank those who are retired and always be respectful. After all those that have been paying taxes working hard as americans earned respect. Those that serves our country should receive free medical to death from the best american doctors we have. No Questions.

swmft

You will find many older people who worked for what they have DO NOT WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH GOOBERS do not want them in my health care, they just proved to the world they are inept, do not want a penny from them what I paid in they squandered, just like the investment in white water billary stole, no more good money after bad. my estate is set so government will get NOTHING not even a court fee , as for va yes people who served deserve to be paid back in full , with some there is not… Read more »

Wild Bill

Yes, I have not seen any of your writings being disrespectful. I merely replied to you rather than engage directly with IT. I hope that you don’t mind.

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FL-GA

Thank You, john. I enjoyed much more freedom years ago, and worked and fought to preserve that freedom for myself and my kids. It saddens me that my grandchildren will never know that freedom. I still, daily, take what steps I can to stop the erosion of our Constitutional Rights, but I know that I can only dream of brining back what we have all lost. I still shoot, although range days are now only once every week or two. I wire letters to and call Representative and Senators daily. I talk with other-minded people daily, and do my best… Read more »

swmft

they could never teach the truth that would make democratic party anti minority, if you look at unions they supported they did not allow blacks how would that look to the kids, rights for me and my friends ,oh wait Putin shows us what that looks like

Cruiser

What is this hand basket, and where are we going?

Get back to basics in school and teach Amercan history, be it good or bad.

JSNMGC

BLUE/Jesse/TEX/Will – 3/13/22

“Arizona,like Wild Bill said a couple days ago, today’s and future generations will never know what freedom really was.”

Response to BLUE/Jesse/TEX/Will:

Good morning BLUE/Jesse/TEX/Will!

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swmft

walk in to fw Woolworth and walk out with an m14 or m2 carbine tax stamp was a register receipt

john

And the the gun shop new your name when you returned.

swmft

you go to the wrong places if they dont know you , even the people at the long range I go to know who I am , Im sure they call me that crazy old man working on 2 mile when im not there ,thats ok none of them can do 500yards

swmft

it was easy when in town they only needed to tell mert to connect them (mert was the operator in Crosby ND)
2 digit local dialing ,you’ll love crosby another time and place long gone

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swmft

no woolworths had registers that would print a little form in blue ink machine had carbon copy ,or second print not sure which so they had a record on the roll for that day. I do not know what happened to the paper from the register but mine I still have remember these were mechanical not electronic

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swmft

hand written were in smaller stores the cash register was invented in the 1800s and big stores used them ,but few mom and pops would spend the money ,the dcm used a combination of typed and hand written paperwork have an adding machine tape stapled to to one that may be a stino paper because it makes no sense

Roland T. Gunner

We had one in downtown Houston, until about 30 years ago. But methinks you misremember the M14’s and M2’s…it was Garands and M1 carbines…so no tax stamp.

Wild Bill

Yep, ATF started out as just a section of the IRS, now, look at them.

Wild Bill

Congress grow a spine? Imagine that! I don’t think that either house of Congress will ever grow a spine. They can hardly be bothered to do good for We the People. But in any event ATF was not created by an act of Congress, so we don’t need them to do away with BATFE.

Oldman

Amen, brother!

john

Trump can never return to office not because I do not want him. The democrats would make his last effort as president look like a cake walk. Start thinking someone he supports. Election fraud would be rampant.

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swmft

it was rampant ,and the calls to stop verification of votes,what? no check on validity?? there was fraud just how much is the question

Arizona

These letters are a start. Then comes threats to funding. Ahh, but that can’t happen since the congress just passed a $1.5 trillion funding bill without reading a god damn page of the thing!

ras52

Yes, that includes close to 15 billion for Ukraine and zero for our border with Mexico! Many GOP congressmen and senators went for it eagerly! What a bunch of spineless cowards!

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john

There is much more to worry about us as a Nation Weak Leadership Bidens Administration How Long Before Global War ?           The democrats have been inching our country a long since before Biden took office. Today there are factors that the American people are not aware of as the media has been pushing the coronavirus vaccine mandate till Russia Invaded the Ukraine.  “I think the Democrats are using this ban as a fig leaf to cover up their radical Green New Deal priorities because it’s not just about banning Russian oil. They want to ban all oil,”      Democrats want to ban Russian oil, they aren’t… Read more »

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Wild Bill

Every tyrant and want to be tyrant in the world can see that Biden and his handlers don’t have what it takes to stop them. More and more despots will push the boundaries until many of them will band together in open war against us.
What ever time we have left … get ready. Supplies of every thing will be short. Buy an extra set of tires, now; buy long term storage food, now, buy a currency that the black market will accept, now.

Wild Bill

I just read that Iran has attacked the US base in Iraq with missiles, this morning. And Biden’s handlers want to give them billions in cash to build nuclear weapons.

john

Again he is not to be trusted with the keys to the car, let alone the keys to a nuclear arsenal. Iran and Israel is that next ? Biden would have to be removed from office. Nancy was in Israel two weeks ago talking foreign policy has it that legal she is just the speaker of the house let alone bat shit crazy .

john

Assets will be harder to replace have new tires,fuel will become the issue forward The smuck will issue 1975 rules mandate in today’s language remember odd even gas days. How about you can only drive on odd days and even days or even this week odd the next week. The internet smartphones you home phone are watched and recorded. In person no phone on your person no credit card purchases buy any item in cash if possible. Stop buying what is not necessary Hell our biggest car dealer here has no cars or trucks on the lot maybe 5 new… Read more »

Wild Bill

It is amazing that America would become a country of shortages. And Biden’s handlers did it in fourteen short months.

john

Biden made sure to take care of his own before our country

john

Continued While the study had many, many more alarming facts, one that really stands out is that virtually every ad campaign for new cars featured a woman driver except for Lincoln. In the commercials for automobiles there were more black women drivers than white women. Again, Europe was the exception here where Mercedes and BMW had NO VISIBLE DRIVERS!! They showed the cars cruising highways but never allowed a view where the driver was visible. I found that very interesting. Are they more interested in selling the product while we appear to be more interested in selling the political/racial message?… Read more »

Wild Bill

Good analysis.

Roland T. Gunner

Yes, excellent post.

john

Brainwashing is best accomplished along with destroying the foundation of our country when you have no idea that it is being done but simply occurs as part of the fabric of your life. While you may “feel” that something is wrong, you are being programmed nonetheless For TV, white men as the majority of Americans have all but disappeared. When they are in commercials they are either old, ugly and sick or they are the partner of a black woman and no speaking part. In 3 of the commercials the white men are doing laundry and always paired with a… Read more »

Cruiser

Get rid of this rogue agency. We already have too many agencies and too many laws.

Rock

After reading about anti gun laws PASSED BY CONGRESS, I don’t trust ANYONE in the House OR Senate !

Cam

If they were not already an infringement, the fact that they hide rules and guidelines makes them a rogue agency that needs to be defunded and all agents and administration removed form any government job.

Mudhunter

Anyone with a little effort could create a legal argument that virtualpy all the agents of ATF violate their oaths to uphold the Constitution. Someday, they need to be investigated for civil rights violations.

Mudhunter

The NFA needs to disappear as does the ATF. By law. Problem solved. Quit pretending these extra Constitutional entities are legit. They are null and void.

Hazcat

This letter is just cover for their vote passing VAWA which gives almost unlimited power to the ATF to deny BG checks and then criminally investigate.

Just smoke and mirrors and sadly too many 2A voters will be fooled yet again by politicians professing 2A support but working against it.

Sisu

Thank you, Messrs. Wos and Crump.

I suggest all readers “thoughtfully” introduce this article and video to their local media. The content is “digestible” and “thought provoking” for those who do not understand the broader issues of: “freedom”, “liberty” and “infringement”. …

Don’t overwhelm should you receive a “tell me more response”; “educate” and be “patient”, it will require many conversations over … a period of (time).

Country Boy

Congess needs to disband the ATF completely IMO.

Wild Bill

We don’t need Congress’s participation to get rid of ATF because ATF was created by a Sec. Treas. memo, rather than an act of Congress.

Bill

The members of congress need to get off their collective butts and take back the power to create laws from the un-elected bureaucrats who have been permitted to make laws because congress members are too lazy to perform the jobs they are paid to do!

JDT

I have an airgun with a 1/2 28 thread pitch and it has a silencer….

Jaque

The headline says both chambers of congress sent letters to the ATF implying democrats were involved in peitioning the ATF to end their secret rule changes. I submit that the ATF is acting on instructions and encouragement from the Communist Biden Regime and their communist comrades in Congress, and that RINO leadership is in bed with congressional conmunists on adding onerous and unconstitutional restrictions to the 2nd Amendment. Letters are ineffective in forcing change. Letters are used like weasel words, and have the same effect in fooling idiots that congress is working on their behalf. The 2nd Amendment has been… Read more »

Ansel Hazen

Rino leadership is indeed in bed with the communist Biden Regime. GOA was alerting people about language inserted into the omnibus spending bill that seems to have been passed by the senate in the dark of night 3/10/22 and now headed for Bidens desk.

https://www.gunowners.org/na03092022/

Russn8r

Traitors in our own tent are far more destructive than the open enemies outside. RINOs Delenda Est.

Wild Bill

Carthage delenta est is Cato’s famous speech before the Roman forum. Out of irrational vindictiveness, Cato demanded that “Carthage must be destroyed.” Please see “The History or Rome” by Michael Grant. pp145.

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john

Our country is in the hands of idiots Woke my ass

Wild Bill

Yes, they are not woke they are in a dream world of their own choosing. They are not mentally or emotionally equipped to deal with the real world. They are oriented toward forcing We the People to do their will rather than serving the will of We the People.

john

Change is inevitable The plan is to disarm all Americans and that can happen look to other countries. The government does not rule here in america they are elected and now that has become a problem. The lower courts have been adjusting the meanings terms of our constitution for years. Congress wants no part of amending that document when they can adjust it to fit the loop holes left by our founding fathers who never envisioned that our country would become the mess it is today.

Jaque

WOW. A -7. The communist trolls are awake today.

Russn8r

How about the Fraternal Order of Police & police unions, ALL of which push gun control & excuse THE BLUE enforcing unconstitutional laws-orders-decrees? FOP & other BLUE groups are trying to torpedo Permitless “Con Carry” in Ohio.

One of Trump’s betrayals was to nom gun-grabbing ex-FOP Pres Canterbury to head ATF; withdrawn under heavy pressure from gun groups.
https://www.captainsjournal.com/2019/05/28/fraternal-order-of-police-president-chuck-canterbury-picked-to-head-atf/

Arizona

Every carve out in laws for LEO make them unconstitutional in full.

We are all equal under the law, or the law can suck a bag of __cks.

Roland T. Gunner

Chicks?

swmft

why do so many here hate the truth, trump is a moderate New York democrat that changed to republican to get back at democrats namely hillary that were attacking him for not giving enough to them. he is not the staunch conservative that people try to make him he will revert to what he was taught, every one has that flaw

Russn8r

I doubt that many actual people here hate the truth. It’s an LEO sock puppet posse. One guy runs Wild-BLUE-Jesse-TEX-Will-Bill & many others, pathetically upvotes the posse & votes down actual people who tell uncomfortable truths he can’t rationally address, just snark & thuggish name calling.

To paraphrase John Wayne, I can smell his socks from half a mile upwind and I’m only part Indian!

Occasionally another JBT jumps in with his posse.

Russn8r

Not very clever, TEX

swmft

it does not make sense to make personal attacks when they ,dont know johns narrow minded statement is way out of line if he has followed what has been written in the past , a constructive comment ok but think there are a few that need to grow and open their eyes to the world around and what goes on and is accepted that should not be ( old do unto others )

Russn8r

Never happen. The posse is ostensibly ex cops who think they shouldn’t be accountable for enforcing unconstitutional laws-decrees-orders, abuse, even murder. Attack any discussion of cop groups, chiefs & sheriffs in places like Wyoming uniformly collaborating with Bloomberg groups to block true 2A sanctuary laws with teeth (accountability for collaborating with their ATFBI “partners”). Always ad hominem deflection. And before he begat BLUE, TEX made excuses for the cops who got away with murdering Daniel Shaver.

Roland T. Gunner

I guess, for me, what he does is more important than what he thinks. I believe the bumpstock ban was more misguided advise from all his treacherous advisors.