ATF Agent Caught Creating Illegal Gun Registry with Personal Cellphone

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U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Dave Nagel, one of three co-owners of Black Metal Firearms in Mesa, Arizona, said there was something odd about the inspector the ATF sent to audit his gun shop late last year.

Pamela Scott, an Industry Operations Investigator, or IOI, from ATF’s Phoenix Field Division showed up in December, 2021. Her audit lasted two months and concluded in February, which ruined more than a few Christmases.

“People ask me why I waited to July to go public about this,” Nagel said. “The public needs to know that the crazy stuff the government is accused of doing, they’re actually doing.”

Nagel and Scott clashed from the very beginning. All of his records are on paper. Nothing is computerized.

“She asked me why our stuff wasn’t digital,” Nagel said. “I told her I wouldn’t trust her with our digital info.”

During another exchange, Scott told Nagel he had a lot of “gun nuts” frequenting his shop.

“I told her we prefer ‘gun enthusiast,’” Nagel said. “She said she prefers ‘gun nuts,’ and she works for the ATF?”

Scott found nothing in the shop’s books other than a few minor clerical errors. There were no missing firearms or other significant problems.

“She said she was going to put us in for revocation, and that it may change as it goes up the chain, but that was her recommendation,” Nagel said. “We didn’t sell guns to the drug cartels, like the ATF did. Everything we deal in is something that can readily be sold to a customer. There’s nothing here outlandish. We sell normal stuff to the common man, and she treated us like drug dealers.”

An Illegal Gun Registry

Nagel noticed that Scott always had two cell phones – a government-issue phone and her personal cell.

This became important when he caught her copying pages from his A&D Book – using her personal cell phone.

The ATF requires gun dealers to maintain an Acquisition and Disposition book – a log of every firearm that’s acquired by the shop, as well as personal information of the buyers.

“Once she started recording the information from our books, I confronted her. I was concerned she was creating a database,” Nagel said. “She claimed that copying our records with her personal cell phone was ‘part of the purview of her investigation.’”

Nagel has retained Scottsdale, Arizona attorney Derek Debus to help him fight the revocation of his Federal Firearm License.

Debus reacted strongly when told of Scott’s actions.

“There’s no reason for her to be taking photographs of my client’s data,” Debus said. “It’s illegal. There are rules against it.”

Nagel took several videos of Scott copying his records and posted them on his social media. The videos have gone viral.

ATF Declines to Comment, Again

Scott declined to comment.

“Thank you for the email and yes, I see that you are calling me. I would appreciate you contacting our division PIO Cody Monday with any questions regarding my inspection of Black Metal Firearms.  He may be able to answer any questions that you have at this time,” Scott said in an email.

Cody Monday, public information officer for ATF’s Phoenix Field Division, said he could not comment because the investigation was ongoing.

Brendan Iber, ATF’s Special Agent in Charge of the Phoenix office similarly declined to comment.

Takeaways

The ATF has recently come under fire for warrantless home inspections, questionable arrests, ignoring federal open-records laws and inflating “ghost gun” numbers, in the hopes that Congress will inflate its budget.

The agency is clearly ramping up their enforcement efforts as part of the Biden-Harris administration’s war on “rogue” gun dealers, which has caused FFL revocations to skyrocket a staggering 500%.

The Black Metal Firearms audit and the actions of ATF’s IOI clearly show – yet again – the agency is out of control.

The ATF is willing to do whatever it takes for a pat on the head from the current administration – even violate the law. This needs to be stopped immediately. They need to be brought under control, because their history proves that the ATF’s mistakes often end in bloodshed.

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About Lee Williams

Lee Williams, who is also known as “The Gun Writer,” is the chief editor of the Second Amendment Foundation’s Investigative Journalism Project. Until recently, he was also an editor for a daily newspaper in Florida. Before becoming an editor, Lee was an investigative reporter at newspapers in three states and a U.S. Territory. Before becoming a journalist, he worked as a police officer. Before becoming a cop, Lee served in the Army. He’s earned more than a dozen national journalism awards as a reporter, and three medals of valor as a cop. Lee is an avid tactical shooter.

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Bubba

The ATF needs to be disbanded as unconstitutional.
That’s it.
They do not have any authority to make law and that’s what they do.
Disband disband disband.
And the The NFA with it.

Boom

You should have physically stopped her. BLACK METAL FIREARMS… You are as good as a collaborator. Just by seeing the profile of her physical presence, I can tell exactly what kind of person she is. BMF, you are wrong; you let your people down. You should have physically removed her from your location. So many people talk s***, about fighting, and about the simple arrogance that civilians can fight the federal government to begin with.. but you all talk so much s***, and nobody ever does anything… So when are you going to start fighting? When six GunTrucks pull up… Read more »

john

Was there a legal precedent for that agent to do that and was her cell phone private or government issue. The ATF agent should have asked for copies of the records using a subpoena issued by a judge. The legal argument should be that the agent could have shared this information on a unsecured cell phone that even the worst hacker could retrieve let alone Google and Alexa . Even in business there is a expectation of privacy to company records they are not open to every employee or in some cases not even available from one department to another.… Read more »

DIYinSTL

Two cell phones – one DOJ issue and one personal. My take from all the other reports I have read on this story is that Ms. Scott recorded all the A & D Books on both phones. I’m waiting to hear that she lost her phone or it was hacked and for all of BMF’s customers have been ‘doxed’ by Giffords or Moms DEMAND Action.

I encourage everyone to write all your congress-critters and insist that the ATF Director explain this and explain the huge increase in FFL revocations, many for minor clerical errors in the distant past.

john

There are protocols that must be followed the law must be followed Remember Mrs Clinton’s Email server Remember can you please Bill Clinton asking describe the word “So” Or Dianne Feinstein communist chauffeur then lying about who Is Christine Blasey Ford, Adam Schiff Schiff’s numerous fabrications have gone largely unchallenged Schiff never shared any corroboration with the public he just lied. Senator Chuck Schumer It’s Sen. McConnell’s Big Lie: That states aren’t trying to suppress the vote; If the election was a conspiracy theory why then did you fight so hard against taking a second fair look? Someone with nothing to… Read more »

StLPro2A

She should be charged for theft of intellectual property for stealing the data onto her personal phone. Contact SAF, GOA, FPC for assistance.

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nrringlee

Next time I am in Mesa the blond and I are visiting with cash in hand. Lee, thank you for a great catch. Now, ATF legal geniuses, riddle me this: so how does a cell phone photo conform to your chain of evidence policies and procedures? Waiting for answer………………crickets. Plainly there is more to the story. So, should the customer base be warned that ATF may be using the customer data in the log to abuse customers? More 1 am doorbell operations? Learn these words. Rogue Federal Agent. Rogue Federal Agency. Rogue Federal Government. Add them up and you have… Read more »

SK

The US government sucks. Time for a reset. FJB

Country Boy

Yep. The Great Reset

Grigori

Looks as though the first book in Matthew Bracken’s trilogy, “Enemies Foreign And Domestic”, draws closer and closer to becoming a reality.

Laddyboy

AGREED!

Henry Bowman

Federal “law enforcement” is weaponized, illegitimate, unscrupulous, and totalitarian. There are NO “good cops” to be found there. They are Jack Booted Thugs who deprive peaceable Americans of their Rights under color of law and conspire with tyrants to do the same (both felonies).

The day is RAPIDLY approaching when Americans are going to have to choose between literally fighting for liberty or accepting tyranny without a fight. This nation is at an inflection point and there will be no do-overs.

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StLPro2A

Understand your perspective, but I prefer Gen George Patton’s take…..“………no son of a bitch ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb son of a bitch die for his country.” Gen. George Patton, circa ~1944.  

Henry Bowman

Oh, I agree, better to put commiecrats on the X than let oneself die. Patton was 100% right. He was also right about communism; he wanted to keep WW2 going and annihilate the commies. It was a missed opportunity.

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Wild Bill

How about the Border Patrol?

Henry Bowman

Those guys are OK. There’s always an exception to every rule, and they do a job that is practically impossible because of the politicians.

We need to put our military on the border to assist those guys and make that deployment ongoing until the border wall extends from sea to shining sea, with no gaps!

Arizona

The BATFE’s entire purpose is to infringe on the Constitutional rights of citizens. FBATFE and abolish that clown show! They are usurping Congressional authority with regs and rules that create and alter laws, which they have zero authority to do. They are power hungry authoritarians with thin skin and no respect for the rule of law or the Bill of Rights.

Ope

The ATF are useless cowards whose complete existence is only about turning law-abiding, firearm owning citizens into convicted
felons who are then a prohibited person. That’s it.

Russn8r

Useless cowards who assist ATF in turning law-abiding gun-owning citizens into convicted felons:

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Henry Bowman

That is, in fact, the primary objective of all government. The majority of elected officials seek only the acquisition and maintenance of absolute power. The best way to achieve that once in office is to systematically expand government power and the outlawing of behavior and actions that would otherwise be lawful. If anyone doubts this, just look at the UK, Australia, New Zealand and many other “democratic” nations! You can literally be sent to prison for making a joke, preaching from the Bible, even expressing a personal OPINION in any of these countries, and these so-called “crimes” all carry a… Read more »

Lysander Spooner

I dig your username. Good reference.

Henry Bowman

So is your namesake… More people need to read him especially ‘No Treason’.

Russn8r

OF COURSE ATF is building a registry, even though it’s illegal. Only a fool would assume otherwise, since there is NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

A Blind Identification Database System or BIDS would be vastly superior.

No government – federal, state, county, city, sheriff, PD, whatever – can be trusted to see the names of buyers and not keep them.

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Tank

I can’t think of anytime in Earth’s planetary timeline & twistory when any Socialist/Marxist of Fascist country thrived from or b/c of that political ideology. I call however think of several counties that democided millions of it’s citizens. Steal the Scientist’s from Germany (Operation Paperclip). Pay the Scientist’s via Fed Reserve’s SS hush $$$ payment system so that it’s kept on the down-low & out of general Publix’s preview & ignorance. Develop those scientific advancements into an American Empire – 4th Reich & then sell that technology to the Russian/Chinese/Korean/Iran controlled opposition Bad Guys. That’s just one of the many… Read more »

Duane

Nothing knew they have been doing this type of thing for decades.

AZ Lefty

Get caught doing wrong blame the LEO that catches you

Stag

It’s amazing how someone can love infringement so much.

Henry Bowman

Yes, Scheiße CAN be stacked that high!

swmft

I know it is hard to understand , but the 1986 law that created the nics system FORBIDS what she did makes the atfe person a felon, it was the trade off made by Negotiating rights away rather than lapew giving up new suits for legal war

Henry Bowman

Actually it was a Clinton-era bill (1994) – The 1986 law was FOPA.
History of NRA-supported infringements, as shown:

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Russn8r

Henry: Here’s an expanded version that explains a few things, like NRA’s wink-wink support for the “Assault Weapon” ban.

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Russn8r

Argh. That was the old one. Here’s the expanded.

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Russn8r

P.S. ¡OpeTEX quiere los huevos de LaPierre!

Henry Bowman

Wow, 4 DV’s in 5 minutes? That gotta be some sort of Triggered Lefty sockpuppet speed record…
Keep up the good work!!

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WeWereWarned

The funny part is the triggered down voters are conservatives or socialist cops, and not liberals. It is the Conservative party that has made it to where a socialist enforcer can harm our Liberty or kill us armed Citizens for exercising our right to be armed and use those arms in self-defense.
The liberals are honest with their hatred of the White cultural construct known as the Constitution and us Constitutional Americans. It is the conservatives who stab us in the back and are who Cicero mentioned about traitors being worse than murderers.

Russn8r

Yep, the OpeTEX et ilk sock posse is a Vichy “conservative”, de facto socialist ex(?) cop. I have my doubts about the ex part.

They’re not true conservatives.

TrueCons defend the Constitution, oppose todays Gvt Industrial Complex; want smaller gvt, including military & LE, more armed-trained civilians & militias.

VichyCons lobby for standing armies of military, police, spies & prison guards, vastly larger than what the founding fathers opposed. They want more militarized-federalized local & state police with “qualified” immunity to lie, murder, confiscate, and assist their “federal partners”.

Don’t know about murderers, but Cicero said this:

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Henry Bowman

Wow, you are in the wrong place! How about you GTFO!!

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Russn8r

Rog. Thanks.

Russn8r

Hey, OpeTEX. EVERYONE knows you’re running sock puppets.

Russn8r

Take a hike, Comrade.

Boom

I wish I could be confronted with you in real life somehow…

Bubba

I think LGB’s Dick keeps getting stuck in your mouth.

Henry Bowman

I would prefer this communist POS would choke on BIG MIKE’s telephone pole!

Ledesma

Nobody can stand them already. And they keep subtracting from even that.

swmft

waiting for one to be shot or arrested for legal activity , same as fbi robing safe deposit boxes AFTER judge said NO