War on Gun Owners Expands to Credit Card Monitoring

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Cash transactions may replace the use of credit cards by gun buyers now that three major credit card firms have adopted a new code that identifies firearm purchases at retail outlets. IMG Jim Grant

U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- Gun grabbers are grinning over the bombshell decision by three major credit card institutions—MasterCard, Visa and American Express—to adopt a new “merchant category code” approved Sept. 9 by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) to monitor gun purchases completed with credit cards.

The announcement has set off alarms throughout the firearms community, and the National Rifle Association issued a statement declaring, “The ISO’s decision to create a firearm specific code is nothing more than a capitulation to anti-gun politicians and activists bent on eroding the rights of law-abiding Americans one transaction at a time,” quoted by Business Insider.

On Tuesday, U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) sent a letter to the CEOs of all three credit card entities—Alfred F. Kelly, Jr. at Visa, Michael Miebach at MasterCard and Stephen Squeri at American Express—asserting, “This new system is ripe for abuse and brings to mind similar policies of Big Tech companies and payment processors that have targeted law-abiding Americans for engaging in constitutionally protected activities. I urge you to immediately reverse course.”

“Too often,” Hawley wrote, “companies have abused their market power to target the constitutional rights of conservatives and others with minority viewpoints… Your proposal to track firearm-related purchases further threatens Americans who are simply exercising their constitutional rights.”

Hawley told the three executives forcefully he “will oppose all attempts to undermine the Second Amendment’s protections,” whether attempted by the federal government “or powerful corporations seeking to ostracize citizens for exercising their rights.”

Don’t be surprised if this controversial move comes up during the Sept. 30-Oct. 2 Gun Rights Policy Conference in Dallas at the end of this month. Co-sponsored by the Second Amendment Foundation and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, this is the 37th annual conference, slated at the Westin Dallas-Fort Worth Airport hotel, and will also be on multiple virtual platforms, including YouTube and Facebook. The theme of this year’s event is “Target Victory,” and with the release of this report card, that may be a goal within reach.

The agenda is being finalized, with more than 70 speakers expected. GRPC annually brings together many of the top minds in the Second Amendment community for a weekend of panel discussions and detailed reports on legislation, legal activities, media and more.

Anti-gun Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-Pa.) issued a press release touting their effort to pressure the credit card firms via letters in which they wrote, “A new MCC code could make it easier for financial institutions to monitor certain types of suspicious activities including straw purchases and unlawful bulk purchases that could be used in the commission of domestic terrorist acts or gun trafficking schemes. Such coordination between financial institutions and law enforcement has been instrumental in efforts across the federal government to identify and prevent illicit activity.”

In their joint release, Warren asserted, “Financial institutions and payment networks, such as Visa, MasterCard, and American Express can and should do everything they can to help law enforcement prevent some mass shootings by identifying suspicious gun purchases through the implementation of this new code.”

“By creating a new MCC for gun and ammunition retailers, credit card companies and financial institutions can better monitor suspicious activity, like straw purchases, and, in turn, help save lives,” Dean added.

But is this sort of monitoring an invasion of gun owner privacy? It sure looks that way, according to critics.

Writing at The Outdoor Wire, editor and veteran journalist Jim Shepherd put it bluntly: “On Friday, another shot was fired – quietly- at the gun industry. The International Organization for Standardization (ISO), voted to create a ‘special code’ for gun stores to use when processing credit and debit card transactions. Proponents of the move are quick to point out that other business categories already have these categories.

“That may be true,” Shepherd observed, “but this isn’t being done as a simple business move. It’s a calculated move to circumvent regulations preventing federal tracking of gun sales.”

If anyone believes this is just a business move having nothing to do with gun control, read the news reports.

  • Business Insider reported, “Visa, MasterCard, and American Express will use a new code for gun shop purchases in US stores in a win for gun control advocates.”
  • Reuters said, “An international standards body has approved creation of a merchant code for gun retailers, a representative said on Friday, following pressure from activists who say it will help track suspicious weapons purchases.”
  • “Gun control advocates had gained significant wins on this front in recent weeks,” the Associated Press noted. “New York City officials and pension funds had pressured the ISO and banks to adopt this code.”

As defined by Investopedia, “Merchant category codes (MCCs) are four-digit numbers that a credit card issuer uses to categorize the transactions consumers complete using a particular card. Payment brands use merchant category codes to classify merchants and businesses by the type of goods or services provided in order to track and restrict transactions.

“MCCs can be used for tax reporting, interchange promotion, and gathering information about cardholder purchasing behavior,” Investopedia said.

Just how serious a problem this may become can be ascertained simply by reading what the gun prohibition lobby is saying in their own prepared statements.

“Today’s announcement is a critical first step towards giving banks and credit card companies the tools they need to recognize dangerous firearm purchasing trends – like a domestic extremist building up an arsenal — and report them to law enforcement,” said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety. “But this is only the first step. Now it’s vital that merchants and banks implement this code swiftly, before more guns end up in the wrong hands.”

“These new merchant codes will help banks and financial institutions track suspicious and potentially illegal gun purchases,” said Shannon Watts, founder of Moms Demand Action. “It takes all of us to tackle our gun violence epidemic which is why we’re grateful for Amalgamated Bank’s leadership in this effort and call for all other banks and financial institutions to follow suit.”

Notice, Feinblatt called this a “critical first step,” meaning other moves are anticipated. Traditionally, the gun control movement has always considered each of their victories to be a “first step.”


About Dave Workman

Dave Workman is a senior editor at TheGunMag.com and Liberty Park Press, author of multiple books on the Right to Keep & Bear Arms, and formerly an NRA-certified firearms instructor.

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Ope

Dave, another very well written article. Thanks.

Wild Bill

Sure is a pleasant website, all of a sudden!!

Oldman

Anybody got an idea why?? Just kiddin’….We all know why, don’t we? Great article Dave!

Wild Bill

A commenter who is given to crude anatomical references rather than thoughtful critique is absent.

Oldman

Well done, Bill.

Oldman

OV, Maybe so, but I would like to mention that ‘it’ said it was going fishing for two weeks. I personally, would enjoy these days to the fullest. It has been a while since things were this calm on here and we must enjoy it. If it comes back we can then all send a short note to complain about IT.

Oldvet

Oldman … It did , Well I don’t read it so you may be correct . You can sure throw a cloud on a guy’s day .

Oldman

Didn’t mean to throw a cloud and definitely not cause a rainy day, however I can’t really think of why IT would come back, anyways. Maybe it was going to Alaska and could possibly be jumped by a Brownie and devoured. Course it would make the bear sick and I really don’t want to see a big bear die because of IT.

Oldvet

Oldman … Maybe he went to Florida and might be gator bait , hear a gator can eat just about anything .

Oldman

i hear you…we are in the same boat here, ut it looks like that may break here soon. If I could dance….well, you know what I mean…LOL

Wild Bill

Yes, we are all on vacation!

Oldvet

WELL if this doesn’t turn anyone interested in guns or the 2A out to the ballot box nothing will !

Wild Bill

Yep, that is the key, alright.

Grigori

I am not sure that will really make a difference. Every election anymore, seems to come down to a Democrat who is a card-carrying gun hater, or a RINO who tells us that he/she/it supports 2-A, then turns around and stabs us in the back at the first opportunity. Not a dime’s worth of difference in the candidates on either side.

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Wild Bill

Some do, but if a guy does not bother to vote than that makes it easy for them.

Bigfootbob

Exactly Bill, and I’ll take it a bit further too. If we aren’t voting, working our neighborhoods, bare minimum, and especially if you live in a state like mine that are proven cheaters, we MUST volunteer to be a ballot/poll watcher in our county’s elections office. We must engage. What’s happening is no different than some invader coming ashore to physically take our shit. If that happened, I guarantee everyone here, (maybe not the resident AZ scholar), would be outside fighting the bastards Mano a Mano. The vote cheaters are absolutely no different. Thank you Bill for the segue for… Read more »

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Wild Bill

My pleasure and well said!

Grigori

We have been going in circles for decades. Fixed elections, or fixed “choices” in elections are nothing new. The definition of insanity, well you know…
I have tired of supporting or voting for a “lesser evil” just to learn painfully that they are still evil. I refuse to fret and worry over whether this worthless RINO can or does beat that worthless Democrat, anymore. Again, there is no difference.

Remedies to the problem, are alluded to in The Declaration Of Independence.

Wild Bill

I dunno, a lot of money men, that have a huge impact upon the economy that we live in, are worried about the next election. As a result the Dow crashed more than 1400 points, yesterday. A lot of 401k account became poorer, yesterday, just on a worry.
Even gold is down to $1673 per oz, at the moment, all over a worry. Scary.

Oldvet

Grigori… That’s why you hear us preaching about primaries !!!

Grigori

Yeah, but guess what (at least in my area), the POS of the litter ALWAYS wins the primary. In my state House district, we had a great Representative for one short term. He was conservative as the day is long, voted right on every issue that came before him. In the primary a few months ago, we lost him. Best we can hope for is another lawyer legislator who can go any way, and will probably go the wrong way, on stuff that is important. I donated heavily to my guy’s campaign. Supported him any way I could. He was… Read more »

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Wild Bill

The only way to eliminate the POS candidates is to run yourself, and win. I’ll back you.

Grigori

Unfortunately, to run for Federal office, and some locals, you need the backing of a political machine. To get that, you need to be aligned with or in the pocket of the machine, or party. If you are not in the pocket of the machine/party, at best you will enjoy a two-year term. Some time back, there was a YouTube video, possibly from a TV documentary, about two average-Joe’s who ran for Congress and somehow won. They both hoped, as people like us would, to improve life for American citizens, to cut through the bs and graft, to make a… Read more »

RetMCCC

I didn’t see Discover Card on the list. If they are not participating in this conspiracy, use Discover. Otherwise use cash for firearms related purchases. Keep your other cards as closing an account affects your credit utilization negatively and hurts your credit score. Use your other cards once a month for a very small purchase. That will keep your account active and the credit card companies will miss out on revenue while incurring the cost of administering your account.

Wild Bill

One of the best attributes of Ammoland is that we can pass around good information, like this, to each other.

Miserable Wretch

Been letting the Credit Card companies know my displeasure and mentioned how this code violates the 4th Amendment and that they may want to consult their attorneys.

Oldvet

Dave …Thanks I just ask John Crump to do this and here you deliver !!!

Oldvet

Mr. Dave who does the moderating or approving of posts here. I was trying to explain difference between recoil of a rifle and a shotgun to musicman who had never fires a shotgun . It was taken down for approval and never returned . What was so radical about that ?

swmft

they do seam to be arbitrary ,sometimes It would seam to be the wording that trips the filter ,others the punctuation. the review is done by a person so whenever they are on vacation of fishing it can take a week

Oldvet

swmft … Yeah I used words like powder and burn and violent recoil !

swmft

if you are writing specific things write a blank entry submit it then edit it seems to work. and many here have never fired black powder so they have no idea how bad recoil can be …have an old 68 caliber buffalo gun would rather fire a modern 10 gauge pistol

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Roverray

With civil forfeiture laws l don’t carry cash to gun shows anymore. What is Discover going to do? Anybody know what other cards that are not going to go along with this bullshit? I know it’s too early to tell, but if the credit card companies don’t honor their card owners privacy and sell/give our information, is it even legal?

DIYinSTL

Dave,
I just put a physical letter to Discover in the mailbox stating that gun owners view this development with alarm and asking if they plan to follow the crowd and implement the new MCC or instead respect their customer’s privacy and take the opportunity to add several million new customers. We’ll see if Discover deigns to reply. I’ll let someone at Ammoland know if they do.

Ope

If Discover does happen to reply to you in the affirmative, I will have to put the scissors to my card. The really strange thing is I’ve always used that particular card for all firearm related purchases.

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Oldvet

DIYinSTL… Well keep us informed for sure .

Wild Bill

Good work.

Cuda70

Wait a minute, If we don’t use a credit card to pay for stuff at gun shops the credit card companies won’t earn any interest on the transaction. You mean you want us to NOT pay a credit card company when we purchase? Excellent.

UncAl

Americans, are you paying attention yet!

Knute Knute

And this is the reason that cash is king, and plastic is garbage. Just as I’ve been stating for years and years.
Don’t like this new policy? Then switch from fiat plastic to cash. It is truly that simple. The only vote we have left is with our dollars, and it’s enough.

Wild Bill

And a powerful and private vote it is, too!

Knute Knute

Indeed, Just imagine how long this policy would last if, three months from now, the total purchases for the last quarter equaled 0.00!

Oldvet

Knute … Will be working on that at least no credit card debt here .

swmft

they have you if you use a bank debit card too ,and some states allow a business to take plastic only …imagine a homeless bum with an ebt card can buy food and you with cash cannot

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swmft

this is why they have been trying to create cashless society…control …you cannot get a money order over 300 without giving personal information…I had to go to 7 different ammscot locations to pay for something I did not want a trail for fedex is scanning for cash ,bet post office does too, in europe they changed currencies all the old money became worthless except to collectors they could do that here, gold,silver platinum and other rare earth metals are all that hold value

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swmft

and lead for obvious reasons

KG4EIQ

What my plan is going to be, instead of calling them raising hell about this piss poor decision they’ve made. Which will just fall on deaf ears, I will not be using my credit / debit cards as much as I have been in the past. I figure if enough of us will do that everyday, not just for gun purchases but every type purchase. The card companies will see their quarterly earnings report start dropping quarter after quarter. I think this will get their attention quick fast and in a hurry! Maybe so, maybe not, Im not really sure… Read more »

Arny

And I like the notion of having thousands of dollars within my grasp. bAnd looking dirt poor on paper. lol

JDL

Does this expose credit card companies to new liabilities? Can gun stores, manufacturers, and crime victims now sue credit card companies if a firearm purchased with one of their cards is used illegally? This could backfire on them big time.

G-man

Well I guess if there are no more requirements for the politions to follow any laws or constitution I guess the gun stores can just use a different code, since they are desperately working to curb your rights I see no reason you can’t play on the same field they are even though it’s not right but is what they’re doing lawful, read your privacy rights on your credit card. Do not comply to these tyrannical policies it only empowers them to steal more of your rights.

Wild Bill

Yes, that is brilliant!!! The gun stores could all change their names to the XYZ grocery store and use the grocery code!

Oldvet

WB…Well the old west six shooter was called a “Hog Leg” !

swmft

that makes a 38 snubie a pigs foot

swmft

cabellas is a food processing supplier, you just need the business setup as such , buds would be a dry goods store …just need names that dont say guns or ammo bulk ammo seller named pre processed food procurement devices

Oldvet

swmft… Well like around here , new ordinance said if you sell a certain % food you could sell alcohol . So all the restaurants started selling alcohol and the 3.2 beer joints selling pizza and hard stuff.

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Arny

Time to clean out your accounts. Leave just enough to pay the bills. Cash is King again.Make withdraws weekly. Get rid of high interest cards. Why pay them to track your purchases ? I don’t need them.

Wild Bill

Yes, and taking home cash, reduces the cash available, thus reducing inflation.
Another good reason to have some cash in your house is FDR’s famous bank holiday. All the banks closed and people were stuck with only the currency in their wallets. That triggered the second phase of the Great Depression.

Vince

BYE-BYE, not buy-buy, credit cards!

Bigfootbob

Looks like a huge opportunity for someone/some Freedom loving entity to add to the alternative freedom Loving commerce platforms.

willyd

I’ve been withoiut credit cards since 2012, just great and pay with cash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knute Knute

Good move. 2005 for me.

Knute Knute

Cash is just better. Think of the number of times you’ve been stuck in a cashier’s line behind some fool buying a pack of tic-tacs on their plastic. It takes many times as long as cash. I know that the commercials SAY plastic is so fast and convenient… but is it? If you just filled up your car and are waiting to pay for your gas, which line would you prefer to stand in, the line that has 3 people holding credit cards, or the one with 3 people holding cash? Which line moves quicker in reality, as opposed to… Read more »

Oldvet

Has anyone done any shipping with amazon ? Hey Musk could start up a delivery system and Tesla could build electric freight trucks to run it .

willyd

I always like to ask the cashier if they still take CASH, just flusters them when I ask that, sometimes they just stare at me with no answer!!!!!!!!

Wild Bill

Vendors are required to accept US currency, by US law.

Arny

Went to a concert it was cashless pay only at Hersheypark Arena. People were so willing to comply. lol

Oldvet

willy… Most of them can’t count change anymore . Machine has to tell them how much change to give . One of these days they will have to have pictures .

grant

I’m going to start buying all the stuff I need at my local gun shops.
Then,
When the Gestapo ATF shows up at my door to confiscate my purchases, 
I’ll give them my underwear.

Wild Bill

Most humorous!

GomeznSA

grant – that ‘could’ work at general merchandise outlets or sporting goods (NOT dicks) that have a gun counter. At the very least it could tie up a lot of manpower tracking those ‘suspicious’ purchases.

Boom

I had a job interview today. 2 more in a week or so…

Wild Bill

We are wishing you good luck.

JDL

So, does this ability of the credit card companies to now track “suspicious” purchases expose them to litigation if a criminal used a credit card to purchase the firearm the crime was committed with? Can gun stores and manufacturers now sue credit card companies for approving the purchase of firearms for illegal use if a credit card purchased firearm is used in a crime? This could significantly backfire on them big time.

Oldvet

One can certainly hope !!!

Oldvet

JDL… They certainly won’t forget to tie you into it too .

Arny

Insanity is still a good defense. They made me do it. I kept hearing voices.

Oldvet

Arny … You too ?

Oldvet

Arny Well there is a show coming on at 2 . Doomsday Preppers . Some people have decent ideas some are way out there .

Arny

Paul & Gloria surely won’t starve. lol

swmft

my voices say shoot anyone who comes on property uninvited , but that is why I have like 60 posted signs…maybe more

Oldvet

Swmft… One dud was building bungy stake pits even ! I think the wildest was the guy who built a box up off the ground and coated it with some kind of mirrorized film . Then his wife didn’t want to climb the ladder . Never did say what they would do when their box was discovered (no where to go) except he was going to be in a spider hole .

Wild Bill

Pungy, brother. Bungy is that elastic stuff.

Oldvet

WB… Yep need to brush up on proof reading !

Wild Bill

I have my dog do all my proof reading. That way there is more assurance of a proper outcome. 🙂

Ope

Bill, this is kind of an off the wall question, but didn’t you say a couple years ago that you have a three legged cat? Someone on this site said they had a three legged cat and I thought it was you. I sure could be wrong about that.

Wild Bill

Yep, the former free cat known as “Rusty” went wandering as a young cat and one of the neighbors shot at him. Luckily it was a self taught shooter. The bullet splatter severed his leg, but hit no vital organs.
My formerly free cat cost $900 to amputate that destroyed leg. Now he is known as “Tripod” the cat.

Ope

Bill, I’m sure glad Tripod made it and is still around. It’s wonderful that you put out $900 bucks to save your free cats life too.

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Wild Bill

I have an idea, but he would not have known that it was my cat. He would have thought that it was just a stray looking for a home.

swmft

I can see it as one big fight over who bore more responsibility , the only person left out will be the thief who steals the weapon and uses it in a crime

Oldvet

swmft …
Yep he gets no cash bail !

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swmft

get out of jail free and new gun around the corner to carjack someone with

Wass

Hey, now it’s just a matter of, what’s more important, your lousy two percent cash back on the credit card or your self-respect? For heavens sake, pay cash! Let the perps charge their plastic (hah! hah!) at a gun store.

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The other Jim

Shame SCRIBD won’t let me download (SCRIBD even went out of their way to make sure I could not copy and paste the letter; or impaired my copy and paste so I can not copy and paste the whole letter) Hawley’s letter. Another invasion of privacy…I have to input a lot of personal information and join SCRIBD’s website just to get a copy of Senator Hawley’s letter.

Bigfootbob

More reason to get into the new free speech platforms and use the alternative payment processors too. Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and all the other leftists platforms should be deleted off all of our devices.

I will never buy anything gun related with a Credit Card anymore. If I can find a payment service that honors Freedom and Liberty I would use them. I thank God every single day I have zero credit card debt.

DIYinSTL

Like Roverray, I immediately noticed the absence of Discover from the conversation. Do they just fall in line or see an opportunity to pull in millions of new customers?

Edit: The Discover card website, discover.com, does not provide an e-mail address or online contact form. I doubt the people who answer the phone would be of any help but they can be sent a snail-mail for “general inquiries” at Discover Financial Services P.O. Box 30943 Salt Lake City, UT 84130-0943

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Wild Bill

Yeah, and how about that “What’s in Your Wallet?” Capital One card that a guy sees on TV?

Wass

It just occurred to me. What’s to stop NSSF, NRA, SAS, GOA and the other gun rights groups as well as ammo purveyors from forming their own credit card company? This way, any monitoring of commerce by government authorities would need obviously UNCONSTTUTIONAL legislation. A way to stick it to them. Other than some other bank credit card not complying with this new code, there’s little other alternative.0

Hazcat

No. I believe the number was actually 40.

Oldvet

Hazcat… Just seems like the fbi is doing everything they can to get out the republican vote !

swmft

no they will be there to pull people out of line

Oldvet

swmft… And polling places will be or are gun free zones especially in ny .

swmft

yes safe for them to arest people or detain them before they vote

Oldvet

swmft…
Them being atf , antifa , blm , fbi etc.

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swmft

that would be the pole watchers the demoncrats have

Arny

That is if you abide by THEIR laws.

IDKID

Multiple articles on this subject haven’t cleared up a question I have.
Is every transaction at one of these merchants going to be reported?
If so, anyone looking at them will have to have the time to sort out thousands of purchases of compasses, hiking boots, cleaning swabs, reloading dies and shellholders, powder, primer, cases, gun cases, lubricants, etc.
It could drive them more nuts than they already are.

Oldvet

IDKID…One can certainly hope ! But your last line I doubt

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Wild Bill

Sorting is perfect work for computers. The federal government has lots of computers.

Oldvet

WB… Sounds like the whole Tech industry would be glad to help .

swmft

they have whole buildings in middle of nowhere dedicated to data mining , all these old mining towns that had water power are now just warehouses with computers at end of unused road with no lines in and an uplink…dont believe it look at how many destination adventure videos he finds just this,abandon towns with a new building or one that has been fortified …all the boom towns had power and military sites

Arny

Delivered to a few power plants. And guess what came in next G–gle. Then the city spread out around these places. Heavily guarded like a Govt installation.
Imagine they take so much care to ensure your data is safe. And you never actually receive a bill for these services. They are so nice ! lmao

swmft

all my friends think my phone choice is strange removed google from the apps kios system no touch screen no tracking , these companies make money selling information about your habits, prefer to live anomalously ,

Arny

Looks like we struck a nerve. LMAO

swmft

I came back from south america with a Columbian passport to visit a friend, while cuba travel was restricted ,flew through Havana went to my friends business, I was met there by a cia officer …so yes I know they track people this was in 2000 so 20 years more tec…the leos dont like to admit government is out of control because they are part of it, I was in dea because I thought the poison was bad,,,the poisoning of minds is worse

Wild Bill

Maybe. I’ve kind of missed the conversation lately. We have been haying. For all the rain that we did not get, we sure got a nice clean hay cutting. 259 round bales. God’s own miracle. Still have to put them up.

Oldvet

How many acres

swmft

you row them at end of field ,or cover on a pad, we still bail and fill a barn in vermont

nrringlee

Dave, great job. Once again New Left Progressive public policy comes to us sans Public Policy Analysis 101. So, Senator Warren and the legion of corporate Brownshirts who have cooked up this scheme please explain this to me: define ‘gun store.” An business with a FFL? Bass Pro? Cabelas? My local propane gas distributor? So if I buy my wife a flannel nightgown at Cabela’s does that count as a ‘gun sale?” If so, here is how we counter. Thinking like a real insurgent how would one defeat this system? Simple. Flood it. Go to your local FFL, buy a… Read more »

swmft

time to start a sportsman’s card and have no tracking ,hope bass and cabellas dump the company they use if it does this , gun shops will need to be under food processing with all the bs have to drive half across state to pay cash for supply this is beyond stupid…time to warm up guillotine

Oldvet

swmft… Suppose its the same for the whole company but here cabellas card is mastercard .

Oldvet

I Has been corrected . An acquaintance tells me Cabelas has changed credit cards to Capital One . Says she gets her statement by email no problems .

Knute Knute

The brand of card is irrelevant. Remember that this is not a policy of MC, Visa and AE, even though it’s their idea. What happened here is that this policy, wholeheartedly supported by those big three, and demanded by them, was “approved Sept. 9 by the International Organization for Standardization (ISO)”. The ISO is responsible for moving the money around from one bank to another, and only banks that meet their standards need apply. Any card, now or in the future, that falsifies, or otherwise refuses to comply with ISO standards, cannot get the money owed to them. So no… Read more »

J.D.

Fellas, I’m with you 100%, but there is much worse news on the horizon regarding using cash. That is, cash may be on it’s way out. Please don’t blame me, I’m as skeptical at the next guy, but the people actually pulling the levers of finance are determined to put an end to cash. Watch the linked video: https://rumble.com/v1i47mg-digital-dollars-cbdc.-brace-yourself-its-coming.html The purpose is to track EVERY purchase, and if they don’t like what you buy, where you buy it, or they don’t like your politics, your account can be seized and you’re done. We’ll be left with a black-market economy, or… Read more »

Xaun Loc

YAWN All this does is break out a Merchant Category Code for gun and ammo stores separate from Sporting Goods Stores where most used to be categorized. This has absolutely zero impact on anyone in the real world! It is just another example of the great “they” wanting to say that they “did something” — and like most times when business or government feel obliged to “do something” it will accomplish absolutely nothing. The good side of this particular “doing something” is that it isn’t even likely to have any unintended consequences because it really is doing absolutely nothing that… Read more »

GomeznSA

XL – I ain’t so sure about the “absolutely zero impact”. For instance I renewed my gun club membership yesterday using my debit card. The sales girl warned me that such transactions are now being tracked. My take is that this is just one more tightening of the screws on some 100 million+ legal gun owners, aka death by a thousand paper cuts. The outlaws in fedzilla have been tracking us in one way or another for decades. Remember that the bats recently admitted that they have data on nearly a BILLION firearms transactions, which they are not legally allowed… Read more »