Virginia Advice for Out-Of-State CHP Holders

Terry McAuliffe
This is NOT about you or anything you have done that was wrong. It’s about our Governor, Terry McAuliffe, and our Attorney General, Mark Herring, who were both elected by a very small margin, and are a great embarrassment to Virginians.
Virginia Citizens Defense League
Virginia Citizens Defense League

Virginia – -(Ammoland.com)- 1) THOUGHTS FOR OUR FELLOW OUT-OF-STATE CHP HOLDERS

First, I’d like to offer an apology to our fellow CHP holders from the 25 states that are about to lose recognition from Virginia on February 1st 2016.

All of you who have visited Virginia over the years have been exemplary and have not caused any problems within the Commonwealth.

This is NOT about you or anything you have done that was wrong.

It’s about our Governor, Terry McAuliffe, and our Attorney General, Mark Herring, who were both elected by a very small margin, and are a great embarrassment to Virginians. Neither of these individuals are reflective of the attitudes toward liberty and freedom and the values that we cherish here in Virginia. In fact, both have been referred to as “lawless” by some of our own General Assembly members, many of who are going to work to fix the situation we find ourselves in.

Here in the Old Dominion, the anger of gun owners at what our Attorney General has done is palpable, and I cannot remember anything to match it. Herring and McAuliffe have endangered your lives when you travel here and our lives when we travel outside of Virginia.

SIX MILLION CHP holders in half the country are affected!

And all this treachery was done as political payback to Michael Bloomberg for campaign contributions.

VCDL will be working to fix this problem from various angles and we will be trying to do so as expeditiously as possible. We want Virginia to be a welcoming state again for our fellow gun owners. We ultimately want to recognize ALL out-of-state permits.

Sadly, we understand if you decide you can’t visit us until we can honor your permits. I’d be a hypocrite if I said I would do so if the tables were turned.

HOWEVER, you do have a few options if you still want to come visit us:

  • 1. Open carry is legal in Virginia – no permit required and you can open carry in most places in Virginia. Our police don’t bat an eye. VCDL’s website has a list of the places that you cannot carry. And, here’s another good reason to open carry: McAuliffe and Herring HATE open carry. But, hey, it was THEIR brilliant idea to prohibit concealed carry, so they will have no choice but to get used to a whole lot more people open carrying in Virginia! 😉
  • 2. You can have a LOADED handgun in a CLOSED, but not necessarily locked, compartment or container in a vehicle. That includes a glovebox, console, and trunk as long as the compartment or container has some kind of latch. Optionally the loaded handgun can be in plain sight, on the seat or on the dashboard. Again, if concealed it MUST be in a compartment or container and nowhere else. Upon exiting the vehicle, the loaded handgun can be holstered and carried in plain view or you can unload the gun and put it in a carrying case.
  • 3. You can get a Utah non-resident concealed handgun permit or you can get a Virginia non-resident concealed handgun permit. For the money and the fact that Virginia’s permit has now been degraded by the Attorney General, I’d go for the Utah permit.

Whatever you do, please don’t judge our great Commonwealth based on our current Governor and Attorney General.

WHAT CAN BE DONE?

VCDL is working to fix “Herring’s Folly” from several angles.

a) A bill on VCDL’s behalf has been introduced by Delegate Lee Ware and will be considered by the General Assembly, which convenes on January 14th (Lobby Day is on the 18th, BTW). This bill will change Virginia law to honor the CHPs from ALL states! Expect a matching bill to come from the Senate.

Yes, McAuliffe will probably veto it, but with your help, we will work to get as large a majority as possible to pass it. More on this in future legislative updates in January.

In the meantime, here is a link to the bill:

https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?161+ful+HB12

b) The General Assembly’s “Power of the Purse” can be used in different ways to help with this battle

c) We can possibly use the courts to override Herring and McAuliffe’s actions

d) There is a petition you can sign. Yes, Herring will ignore it, but it will make a great PR item, when I say something like, “X thousand of people signed a petition against Herring’s actions.” 7,283 have signed it so far and you guys are just learning about it! Here is the link:

https://tinyurl.com/pajlh9x

Since Herring is making our lives miserable, we can return the favor. More on this next week. Oh, and Herring is going to run for Attorney General again in 2017. I’ll bet he’ll be surprised at just how good our memories can be!

DON’T FORGET TO KEEP PUSHING PEOPLE YOU KNOW TO COMMENT ON MCAULIFFE’S STATE-AGENCY BAN

As of 8 PM on December 23rd, 2,818 comments have been posted. All but a handful, if that many, are against McAuliffe’s gun ban!

That’s nice, but we can do better. Get this link into the hands of others you know and get them to leave a comments opposing the ban. If you haven’t commented yet, now is a great time to do so. Click on the link and then click on “Enter a comment” to get started:

https://www.townhall.virginia.gov/L/Comments.cfm?StageID=7379

Here’s an article on McAuliffe’s state-agency gun ban and VCDL:

https://bearingdrift.com/2015/12/23/abc-goes-gun-free-before-holidays-privatization-resurrected-as-vcdl-fights/

or

https://tinyurl.com/gpmf2nu

DETAILS ON THE BUSES COMING TO LOBBY DAY WILL BE READY VERY SOON

The buses are now confirmed and I will let you know where the pickup points will be, the times, and how to make a reservation. Please make this the biggest Lobby Day VCDL has ever had!

MARK YOUR CALENDARS: VCDL MEETING IN RICHMOND AREA ON DECEMBER 29!

VCDL will be holding a long awaited membership meeting in the Richmond area. We will meet at the Glen Allen Library on Tuesday, December 29th at 7:00 p.m. The meeting room will be open to us at 6:30 p.m. for fellowship and the meeting will begin around 7:00.

We will be discussing strategy for Lobby Day and the implications of the recent “audit” by AG Mark Herring and the Executive Order #50 issued by Gov. McAuliffe.

We will adjourn at 8:30 and those who care to will go to the Nuevo Mexico restaurant for continued fellowship.

The meeting is open to all, regardless of your membership status. In fact, we encourage you to bring people who have never been to a VCDL meeting before.

Location:

Glen Allen Library
10501 Staples Mill Road
Glen Allen, VA 23060

Time:

7:00 pm – 8:30 pm

Continued Fellowship:

Nuevo Mexico Restaurante
10282 Staples Mill Road
Glen Allen, VA 23060
www.nuevomexicorestaurante.com

FINALLY – MERRY CHRISTMAS AND MAY GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!

About Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL):

Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.

For more information, visit: www.vcdl.org.

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Lonesome, Son of Virginia

The rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the ROTTING tree… I am sure all my fellow Patriots reading this horror story remember that mccauliffe was the bag man for the CLINTON CRIME FAMILY FOREVER AND AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED STILL IS…
These are sick, sick people. They have no morals, no ethics, they no nothing but lies.
I AM FROM VIRGINIA BEACH…MY MAYOR, REPUBLICAN, WHOM I VOTED FOR, BACKED MCCAULIFFE ALL THE WAY. TALK ABOUT SICK PEOPLE. THE MAYORS NAME… WILL “THE SELL OUT RINO” SESSOMS!

marineseabee

Hey you all! In AZ where I live, we have concealed carry via permit. BUT, we also have CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY- CARRY CONCEALED WITHOUT A PERMIT. We also have open carry.
Besides, for the last 10 days the temperatures have been in the 80’s. It’s supposed to be this way for another 10 days at least. Come on down!

mokoman

Its time to boycott Virginia and Maryland .Do not spent a dime at their beaches! If they get no money coming in then maybe we can bankrupt their states.Hurt them in the pockets.

Tonic

A huge problem is the locusts that move from the ruins and nazi getto’s of Ny,NJ, Ma to the southern states and expect us to change to your rediculous liberal views. It’s like the plague but more destructive.

Max

Open carry has got to be one of the biggest blunders in political thought ever.

Joel Williams

Been to VA a few times vacationing. Will never go there again. Too bad these two have allowed Bloomberg’s money to subvert an otherwise important and useful constitutional right. This is happening in all states Bloomberg has his money minions working against American rights for their profit. Always under the guise of “grassroots”. Vermonters withstood them all and they are back again this year with more state by state legislative subversions to undermine America’s greatness. One only needs to look to the most restrictive gun states and cities in America to see these “rules” work against the safety of citizens… Read more »

perry

It is times like this I am glad I was raised in West Virginia. I knew there was a reason my forefathers broke away from you people. Sorry you people have another STUPID DEMOCRATE running things, and as for the people that didn’t vote in your last election because it didn’t COUNT look what you got. This is just the beginning, puppet will do what Comrade Obama and Bloomberg wants on this issue. Of course none of us are safe from these fools. People better wake up before it is too late if it isn’t already. I live in Ohio… Read more »

James Johnson

Thanks for the information. My wife and I, both of us in our seventies, visit family in VA about every two years. When we go we usually stay 7 to 10 days. While there we buy gas, food, and miscellaneous things. With the new law starting February 1st, wherein Virginia will not respect my CCW permit, I fear that we must stop our visits. Number of reason, here, Virginia: 1. by enacting this law you will be making me a criminal just by driving into your state. 2. By your law you disrespect and belittle my state (PA), 3. you… Read more »

WxMan_II

As far as I’m concerned, the best advice is “when Virginia honors my CCW permit, then I’ll visit. Until then, there are plenty of places that are more deserving of my vacation and tourist money.”

Shaft

Yes

David A

I lived in Virginia for 25 years before moving to SC. My wife is from VA and has family there so we visit often. I have family in WV so we are traversing the state often. I have enjoyed the many opportunities to hunt in VA while living there. I, like many others, will still need to visit VA but I’ll be as stingy as I can on making any purchases there that are not necessary……..

5WarVeteran

December 24th 2015 Merry Christmas? I am just receiving this now on 18 January???

2nd Amender

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION YEAR IN THESE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, EVER!

Be sure that the person you give your very, very valuable vote to is on your side of ALL ISSUES!

Rick

We normally visit and drive through Virginia six times a year. We have favorite spots where we spend time and money. We will not stop or spend any money in Virginia until this injustice is corrected. A loss to both Virginia and us because of just two idiots.

Jorge Norberto Pedace

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Jacob Opperman

Well the people of Virginia can look into empeaching them both. Then hold a special election to put in officials that will be sympathic to the population of Virginia. This is not only for Virginia and other states but for the whole country. We the people of the US need to start looking at our officials before we put them into office. We need people that will work for the people of the US and take there oath of office and to obey the constitution not go off on there own.

Jim

Actually many of us call him “stinky fish” herring.

Tom Cain

All this talk is in vane UNLESS you get out and vote. That is a great big part of why we are in the mess we are in.
It doesn’t take much longer to vote than it does to expound your frustrations here. I live in Tn. and I will avoid Va.
because there is a virus growing there called democrat control. We all better watch out for it, unless we want to be totally controlled.

Mikial

I am proud to be a longstanding member of the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) and I offer my apologies to out-of-state permit holders for our AG’s ruling. Please be aware that we have to deal with the big, Liberal counties up near the Maryland and DC lines when electing people like this, but most districts are very pro-Constitution in terms of the state legislature. Trust me that we are fighting this, and we have an excellent track record with our very Second Amendment friendly state legislature in fighting for our Constitutional rights. I do agree with the recommendation to… Read more »

Don

Upon my next opportunity to travel through VA I mostcertainly will open carry, fully loaded and w/extra ammo up and down every inch of public property I can. What a bunch of numb-skulls.

Jim Spivey

I have one word for my fellow Virginians, RINO’s. That is why a liberal New Yorker is our Governer. It is mostly in Northern VA, but we now have a despicable crowd of them in Southwest Va. They (RINO’s), are the reason our past AG, is not our present Governor. Mr. Cuchinelli was thrown under the bus to pacify their liberal friends, for financial profit. Red Herring, well, he is so glad to be in office, nothing is beneath him. His narcissistic mind, know’s no boundaries. And, he jumps to the beat of Bloomberg’s money drum, just as little M.… Read more »

Vanns40

For those of you in TN or even VA there’s a Utah class in Abingdon VA on Jan. 30. You can find the details on AR15.com on the Virginia Hometown page.

rev dave

RECALL! Recall! Recall!

And referendum. Write the gun laws you want and force them to a vote.

David

I don’t live in Virginia but I traveled there once when I a teenager and I thought it was nice. I’m from Arkansas and I can tell you what your Governor and Attorney General says about Arkansas CHL’s is wrong. Here in Arkansas we have to complete a Concealed Carry class by a licensed NRA instructor which includes showing proficiency with our carry firearm. We must also submit a passport quality photo and finger prints to the state police when we apply for the license. We’re not just a bunch of backwoods Rednecks that carry our guns around and shoot… Read more »

Joe Overstreet

I believe a person doesn’t have only a right to defend themselves, family and property, They have an OBLIGATION to defense. No law has the authority stop you.

durabo

I have scratched Virginia from my vacations list until they get their heads out of their rectal orifices.

Joey Rivera

Mark Herring and the governos hasn’t realized yet that they have committed political suicide……..

ted bradsher

Most of my pleasure time and shopping is in Virginia, seems this will cease, I have concealed NC Permit therefore I feel we will be targeted by license checks by Highway Patrol to see if the weapons are with us. Just need to limit my travels to VA.

Jerry

Sure will make it tough for all of us that live in Bristol. You can stand in the middle of state street having one foot in Tn and the other in Va.

JC

It’s sad that one area of the state can elect these carpetbaggers. Northern VA is just DC south

george dawson sr

That’s the change people got when they elected our president,hope they got what they voted for!.

John Danforth

It would be nice to have a list of products produced in VA to avoid buying. Pressure needs to be applied to the non government employees and companies. Only then will you get the citizens of VA to vote to rid the state government to rid itself of these roaches.

Todd

Part of your article is WRONG! It is NOT legal to carry a loaded handgun in a glovebox or center console, regardless if it has a latch or not. If it is within reach of the driver or occupant in the vehicle (both the glovebox and center console) it is illegal unless you have a CCW permit.

Mike Campbell

I have family that live in Virginia plus my wife and myself love to travel to Virginia, but I guess all family reunions and traveling will be put on hold until this travesty is resolved

Mike Rathbone

I don’t get people who want to restrict guns, but don’t want to restrict criminals. The gun is nothing more than a tool, like a hammer or a screwdriver. Both are capable of killing, but not by themselves. These same people fail to understand guns have settled this country, it kept it free, it rid the world of people like Hitler and other dictators. They have protected many a Police Officer, and a healthy amount of homeowners, and provided food for families since the first gun was produced. These same fools would have you standing there, with your hands in… Read more »

Chris Rakes

Well for the fact I have always open carried. So it really doesn’t hurt me any. To let others know you can OC in VA, without a permit. It will eventually hurt Virginians going to other states. To let you know you can OC in NC WITHOUT a permit. So onward OC

Daniel S

Here’s an idea. How about on Monday, February 1st, the very day this policy of the Virginia AG goes into effect, let’s have a rally on the steps of the Capital in Richmond made up of people from out of state (as well as like minded Virginians) whose Concealed Carry Licenses or Permits are no longer valid in Virginia. Make it an Open Carry Rally, everyone have an obvious pistol open carry holstered. Our message will be clear. Don’t want to see our guns? This is the only way, Open Carry, that we can be armed in Virginia now.

Warren Hackler

Thank you for the information, because I was going to avoid going back to Virginia at all costs. With family still in Galax and the surrounding areas I told them I would not be coming home til this was fixed. Now, I’ll just open carry!

Frank

I live in Virginia and am seriously hosed off by this illegal law. Now, you out of state folks instead of commenting on web sites like this, why don’t you communicate your thoughts to the Virginia legislators. Maybe they will take notice.

Smitty

It’s evident that your state, or to use the snobbish term “Commonwealth”, doesn’t need my vacation or tourism money any more. Until the electorate of Virginia votes this piece of Hillary shit out of office, I won’t be back. I’ll take my money and personal carry to states that value those of us that Virginia doesn’t.

wild bill

I have vacationed in Williamsburg for several years. Just a couple of old retired folks, love the scenery, the harbor and country side. Looks like we will be going south from now on………… You will not be getting my money anymore…………….

Robert Disinger

I reside in the “Peoples Republic Of Maryland” so I am well aware of the efforts of an oppressive state government to keep honest working citizens from carrying a concealed weapon. Maryland is one of the worst and hardest states in which to obtain a CCW and now Virginia’s liberal team is hard at work destroying YOUR right to carry. Fortunately, I have TWO things going for me… #1) We have a Republican Governor Larry Hogan who is trying to turn things around in a majority Democratic state and #2) I am a retired L.E.O. and have the privilege to… Read more »

NOG

I had plans to take the grand kids to the Smithsonian Air and Space, staying in Va. Now I think we will go elsewhere. Shame for the business entities in the state. Three kids and four adults. A week of hotels, meals, gas and entertainment gone.
I will not support the state with one thin dime until these dirtbags are removed and this fixed. I don’t see this happening as too many living there feed at the fed gov trough.

larry norman

This alinsky, want to be, is trying to set himself up for a vice presidential candidate.he is Hillary’s toilet paper monkey. For all the democrat die hards, your old party is gone. Please read the Alinsky 8 points to creating a socialist government. McAuliffe and the NOW democratic party ate making history trying to turn America into a communist society

Jeff Miles

I live just a very short drive from the Virginia state line. My wife and I travel to Virginia very often to shop or to just enjoy a meal. I guess I should say we used to. I take multiple motorcycle trips and I always considered Virginia as a state friendly to my way of life. I guess I should say I used to. I will now just spend more time in TN and NC. I can focus my shopping and meals in KY where they still want a red blooded American and his way of life. I have no… Read more »

George

I live about seven miles south of the Va line. Sorry to the good people of Virginia but not one dime of my money will be spent in your state as of now. I have to fight with the weapons I have!!!

Jay Askew

I sorry you guys are so unconstitutional, I don’t plan on visiting VA to spend my money any more, N.C.

pete

Was considering retiring in VA, thanks for helping me change my plans. Also I won’t be visiting and spending my money there any more! Too bad love VA and the wonderful folks in this state.

Infidel7.62

Don’t go to Virginia, don’t do business with any companies in VA, and let the companies know why.

Rodney Daughtry

It is time to remove the people who lied when they took the oath of office. They swore to honor and uphold the constitution of the state and also of The United States. There should be legislation passed to the fact that when anyone do not honor the constitution their position in government is terminated without warning . People this is a serious problem among democrats today.