Hornady Ammunition – The Word on Ammo Availability

Hornady Ammo Factory
Hornady Ammo Factory
Hornady Ammunition
Hornady Ammunition

Grand Island, Neb. –-(Ammoland.com)- The current political climate has caused extremely high demand on all shooting industry products, including ours.

Empty retail shelves, long backorders, and exaggerated price increases on online auction sites – all fueled by rumors and conjecture – have amplified concerns about the availability of ammunition and firearms-related items.

If the information you hear doesn’t originate from Hornady Manufacturing, don’t believe it.

Here are some of rumors we’ve heard, and questions we’ve received:

  • Have you stopped production, or has the government forced you to stop?
  • Not at all.
  • Did you stop selling bullets so you could only make loaded ammunition?
  • Absolutely not.
  • Since we can’t find your product you must be selling it all to the government.
  • Nope, less than 5% of our sales are to government entities.
  • Why can’t you make more? Ramp up production? Turn on all the machines?

We’ve been steadily growing our production for a long time, especially the last five years. We’ve added presses, lathes, CNC equipment, people and space. Many popular items are produced 24 hours a day. Several hundred Hornady employees work overtime every week to produce as much as safely possible.

If there is any question about that – please take a tour of the factory. ( http://www.hornady.com/about-us/factory-tours )  You’ll be amazed at what you see.

We are producing as much as we can; much more than last year, which was a lot more than the year before, etc. No one wants to ship more during this time than we do.

We appreciate everyone’s understanding and patience. We don’t know when the situation will improve, so please bear with us a little longer. And remember, when it comes to Hornady Manufacturing, if you don’t hear it from us, please don’t believe it. Visit: www.hornady.com/

  • 18 thoughts on “Hornady Ammunition – The Word on Ammo Availability

    1. i think its cool wal mart should not carry ammo the are retail for clothes and now grocieries i love they don’t have any ammo what does wal mart do when they are the only stores left to shop?raise prices so you think your smart buying from them stupid ,idiots you are only cutting every american owned pop and mom gun shops and stores out of business you all are the pigs for buying from wal mart anyway ha ha ha hope they never get anymore ammo

    2. Ammo is made as needed and so is every component involved. The manufacturing process involves the stocking of a days worth of materials and it’s not made in huge quantities and stocked up in warehouses. The materials show up one day, the finished product leaves the same or next day. When sales jump higher than predicted and what little extra the distributors have is gone the manufacturers have to ramp up production. They order extra raw materials and have to wait because they aren’t stockpiled either. Raw materials for gunpowder have to be mined and processed. Brass, copper and lead have to procured from alternate sources and processed into parts. It can take at least 3 months and under high enough demand 6-12 months just to get the increase in materials so they can get the increased production flowing and by then people are in “It’s never coming back” freak out mode.
      So now that the manufacturers are running wide open, where is it going? For one, I’d be looking at the distributors because it isn’t making it to the stores or gun shops but the supply of insanely overpriced ammo on Gunbroker seems infinite. The distributors can cause an artificial shortage by controlling distribution and drive the prices sky high. The economy is crap and warehouse space is dirt cheap right now. Look on Gunbroker at the people who currently have hundreds to thousands of listings and they are mostly cases. They aren’t still selling supplies they stockpiled and they seem to have continued unlimited access. That just screams unethical distributor practices to me. As long as they can continue to get $500+ for a 1000rd case of 9mm 115fmj that would normally go for $150 and people will pay up to $35 for a single box that should be $10 this crap will continue. Unlike most of you, I don’t blame the asshole at Walmart who buys a whole pallet (I don’t see how with a 3 box limit) just to resale it, I blame those who are stupid enough to actually buy it from them. I’ve bought 2500rds of 9mm, 1250rds of 17hmr, 500rds of 30-06 and 1000rds of 22lr in the last 5 months, mostly by the case, and haven’t paid an inflated price for any of it. That doesn’t include all the boxes of rifle rounds I’ve bought for other people without making a profit because they couldn’t find it at all. If I have bought that much without paying inflated prices then no one has an excuse other than more credit than brains.
      The government has way more to do with this than hornady seems to want to indicate. Of course maybe hornady doesn’t do much with government contracts. Their niche seems to be seriously overpriced 20rd boxes of home defense ammo. Bill ask “Now take into consideration that HLS is only buying .40 and 9mm predominantly, tell me why all .22lr, .45acp and every other caliber besides 20g shotgun shells are off the shelf for a year”. Really? Read the beginning of this again. Making a few hundred million rounds of 9mm and 40cal use up the same raw materials as needed for every other size and all the 20ga is there because nobody has bought any in years. The government only has two reasons for buying so much ammo. To keep us from being able to get it or to use it on us. Most likely, considering the test run they did in Boston, both. Also, anyone who blames Obama needs to wake up. Bush started the free-for-all taking of rights and the raping of the economy. It’s both parties and voting in a Republican next won’t change anything but the name of the crook on the door. We have to get control back from the corporations and we have to do something about getting control of the cops or we are screwed. Right now they are working on building a national police force that consists of nothing but ignorant, brainwashed, trigger happy thugs with full military armament and disarming us. What do you think they are up too? Making us safe for our own good? Fixing to sale us to the highest bidder? The question I always want to hear answered is, Why do stupid people believe what the TV tells them and call anyone who can see what should be blatantly obvious to everyone a conspiracy theorists? To me, anyone believing the governments version of anything or anything that they are told by the news has some serious issues in the common sense department.

    3. Out of stock no back orders online. Walmart bins are empty. I go to gun shows and pay the price for the ammo I need. Soon they will price ammo where I just will not buy. I now go to the range about every 2 months instead of twice a month. I bought 3 guns in the last 8 months, but with the price of ammo, why would I buy another gun? I am hording the ammo I have because I don’t think throwing the gun at a home invader will do much. The industry MUST find a way to get ammo back to what it was just 6 months ago or else they will actually be shooting themselves in the foot. Pun intended.

    4. to Dad; Just to be clear, I am not going to rob anyone. I will buy it from them or take it and leave the cash on their person 🙂 I simply am not going to watch another person buy all, the majority of, or the entire pallet of ammo.

    5. You are all nuts. Put your guns away, and take up fishing for just 3 months. Then you will see the over supply of ammo at Walmart on sale for 20 percent off.

    6. If Hornady is producing so much ammo, where is it going? I don’t want to tour the manufacturing plant, I want to see the loading dock and the shipping labels. I’ve talked to dozens of gun store employees all over Virginia since January. They order 5 boxes and get 3, order 3 and get one. Often they get none. They never know when it will arrive. At several Walmarts, they say it comes in a trickle. And they have a 3 box limit.
      Yes, people are hoarding and buying it up as soon as they see it. But there’s not much of it ever getting the the stores in the first place. This makes the hoarding worse.
      If Hornady is manufacturing round the clock, who are they shipping it to? Ammo to Go hasn’t had 9mm in months. Cheaper than Dirt now charges six times what they used to, for the tiny amount they have. And NOBODY has any Hornady ammo of any kind.

    7. The problem is not with the ammunition manufacturers. They are making as much as they can and they are not the cause of ammunition prices being sky high. Look at Olin (Winchester) ATK Federal) these are publicly traded companies and their stock has not gone sky high. The ammunition profits are being made by the retailers. Cheaper Than Dirt should change their name to Expensive As Hell. All these retailers are raking in huge profits and the hoarders only added fuel to the fire. There is plenty of ammunition being made but its being purchased at such a high rate and in volume that you don’t get a chance to buy it. The same goes with magazines there out there but being hoarded and priced sky high. Huge profits are being made by the dealers and catalog/online retailers that are selling all of it before they even get it in stock. It’s capitalism at its best. A 20 round box of ammo that used to be $7-$8 is now over $30 or more. A magazine that was $15 is now $50 if you can get them. What a joke!!

    8. @Bill NH is the state the Libertarian party chose for the free state project.
      You know, “live free or die.”

      Also, please don’t say you’re going to rob people because you disagree with how they act. It’s not a good thing to joke about, and a much worse thing to be serious about.

    9. This statement from these guys is almost if not exactly word for word the same as the statement made feb 17,2013.

      This is probably another lie from them to appease the people that need the product they produce.

      Due to non responses to several questions that I have asked, I feel that Hornady has lied to us all along. If only 5% of their product goes to the government, where is the other 95%. It is not going to the people that have supported Hornady for many years. I for one will no longer be a supporter of these liers.

    10. Neon, thanks. I do fall about 60% in the category you mentioned relative to complacency. That was my bad. But my ire for hoarding and resellers still outweighs that guilt. I am actively seeking them out locally.
      I certainly wish they would branch out to places like Sean said or even the mid-atlantic. I’ve been out of work over a year and would love it :). Not sure why they need machinists, formally though. Not that the positions don’t need skilled labor, but if they are looking for troubleshooters and machinists to work on the loaders, that’s one thing. If they need labor to actual load cartridges, that’s a few weeks of training, really. Otherwise reloading as an aftermarket would not be viable. It isn’t that intensive. Arizona as well as parts of the mid atlantic definitely have skilled labor – and probably facilities that might have been recently shut down and near move in ready. Wow, who in the world would want to have a right wing predominant business based in NH these days. ick….

    11. If what you said about Ruger is true than they should relocate to Arizona. Manufacturing base with talent. New Hampshire is a beautiful place but it is too close to the bloomturd cesspool for me.

    12. Bill’s right. But I’ll say it is also complacency that led so many folks to not go out and stock up sooner in small amounts over time. There were so many warnings that Obummer and the Left were building up for a big anti-gun push. So many blue dog Dems were saying Obummer wss not anti-2A and a lot of people were lulled into it. Now everyone knows that’s not true and they are freaking.

      Simply the industry cannot keep up with the demand. This is somewhat coupled with the rise of the Preppers who by philosophy hoard. Then like Bill says there are the profiteers, but they have been, around since forever. That is what they do, rightfully or wrongfully. It’s not even a product of Capitalism, the Communists had the same going on despite their efforts. It just exists as an unfortunate part of human society. All of this seems to have created a perfect storm of shortages.

      I’m sure the ammo manufacturers are working as fast as they can plus expanding if feasible. After all they are businesses and businesses are in business to supply a product and make a profit (despite Obummer labeling profit as evil).

      At the Shotshow I asked some senior Ruger officials why they can’t keep up better with their demand? They told me they have a standing offer to hire 200 machinists but can’t fill the order. They have not been able to find enough skilled machinists out there AND are willing to relocate to New Hampshire. There is just one example of why we are experiencing the shortages.

    13. To those like Kenneth who think its all the gub’ment’s fault instead of jerk off hoarders and resellers; 2b rounds = 23 boxes of 50 cartridges, a day, in 50 stores per state, in 48 contiguous states only, not counting online stores or large police and gun club purchases. There are actually about 5x that many stores in most states which would make it about 4 boxes, per day, per store – again not counting online and large bulk purchases. So if you think its the governments fault, something is wrong with your reasoning. My smallest local Walmart carried (before the shenanigans) about 100+ boxes of assorted ammo on any given day.
      Now take into consideration that HLS is only buying .40 and 9mm predominantly, tell me why all .22lr, .45acp and every other caliber besides 20g shotgun shells are off the shelf for a year – if its all the fault of the gub’ment. The conspiracy here is real; it just happens to be a percentage of people (who I don’t call Americans) making the shortages happen either for stupidity or profit.

      I hope that the hoarders sit on that ammo and their closet is humid. Next time you fire a few rounds out of your thousands, you might just have a FTF – hopefully while you have an intruder 🙂

    14. Kenneth, even if the Feds put in orders for 10x the amount they have bought, it is still not enough to have had the shortages we have had for over a year. It is cause and effect, and is a self fulfilling prophecy. People freak out and a) buy everything they can, needed or not, to hoard or b) buy everything they can and resell it at 4-10x the actual price to people that really need it. Hornady has every right to sell to the government. It is jerk off people who are creating the shortages. There is no ammo because they can’t make it fast enough, not that the gov. is buying it all.

      To Jeffrey, thanks for agreeing. Like I said, woe be unto the next person at Dicks or Walmart I find taking all the ammo every day. It will be mine, one way or the other.

      Think where we would be today if during the great World Wars, people during shortages of almost everything cheated and hoarded and scabbed as they are doing today. There is very little left of the American philosophy of tightening your belt, taking care of your family but then your neighbors and fellow man and acting as though we are all part of something greater, a team of Americans. Its all me, myself, I, mine and I gots mine, you gets your own.

      Since they are not ashamed for themselves, I will be, and am, ashamed for them.

    15. Maybe Hornady and the rest of the ammo makers should stop selling to the government. Return to your normal market. The citizens of this country. We need the ammo. Why all this junk about 24/7 hrs.Every gun shop states that there is no ammo available.I am tied about hearing that we are buying all the available ammo up.Everbody lies to the citizens about this subject.

    16. Bill
      I agree, those people make me F-ing sick, they claim its supply and demand !! Capitalism etc. Ide like to smack the ever loving shat outa them. Really pisses me off people doing this! Ide like to hang them from a tree. I was told at Walmart they get ammo every night and is on the shelves by the time the store opens and whatever is put out flys off in about 30 min or less. So I was told to be their at opening. I tried going the reloading way but you cant get primers nor powder because of the F-ing hoarders. So slowly i am building up my reloading stuff. I am glad I did stock up on ammo just before this but not to where i am comfortable if I am unable to reload my empty brass.

    17. D., Based on my reading and arithmetic, the ammo shortage is due to:

      Manufacturers being slow: 15%
      Gu’ment purchases (HLS): 15%
      Hoarders: 20%
      Jerkoffs buying/reselling: 50%

      Case in point: $109 cans of .22lr at Walmart selling for $400+ on auctions. People who look like they have never picked up a firearm buying the entire pallet of what comes in to the Walmart Dock, etc..

      I live in the Raleigh, NC area. I have seen it. I made the decision yesterday that if I see it again, I will follow them to the parking lot and make them an offer they cannot refuse. If they refuse, I will just take all their stuff.

      People who are both hoarding ammo and buying to rape people on resale are not Americans; they are pigs. You are the same people who do bad repairs to peoples houses after a disaster and run away. You are no different that people who sell $300 generators post disaster for $2000. I am sure your mothers are proud of you.

      Not only can’t I back you up or help you, since you are taking all of the ammo and leaving me dry, but you are creating the exact situation that HLS wants: the police have to buy their own ammo. They can’t get any either. So, if there is no ammo, the police are made impotent by having no ammo, who is going to save us? Martial law, via Homeland, as planned by Obama.

      Grow up, look ahead, partner with your neighbors and other gun owners and stop trying to make a quick buck at the expense of other Americans who would be there to help you. If, of course they had any of the ammunition you are hoarding and scabbing.

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