If Hillary Wins… Well Let’s Just Say It Will Be Bad News for Gun Rights

By Tom McHale

The primary reason to vote this year is the Supreme Court makeup, your Bill of Rights is at stake.

A Supreme Court Friendly to the Wicked Witch of Wherever She Comes From means far more than you might think.
A Supreme Court Friendly to the Wicked Witch of Wherever She Comes From means far more than you might think.
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Tom McHale

USA –-(Ammoland.com)- Personally, I think that if Hillary wins, Jupiter will veer wildly off course and crash right into Toad Suck, Arkansas. Admittedly, that’s more of an opinion than a scientific fact, although I might be willing to bet a fiver on it.

Recently, a friend of mine in the gun industry said to me, “What’s the big deal if Hillary wins? What difference will it really make?”

When I responded that she would be in charge of putting several of her minion trolls on the Supreme Court, thereby ending the Second Amendment as we know it, his response was “So, we get Heller overturned. It won’t make that much of a difference.”

Actually, Heller (and McDonald) remaining un-overruled is everything. Those two decisions, confirmed by the Supremes, are the last ditch legal defense against all sorts of malodorous behavior from any branch of government – federal, state or local.

The primary reason that the Supreme Court makeup is everything is that it serves as the last check and balance for any governmental activity.

Supreme Court and Guns
Supreme Court and Guns

While it rules on court cases, those cases arise from a wide variety of legal disputes – challenged laws, civil lawsuits, and opposition to illegal actions by the executive branches of government.

In short, a Supreme Court friendly to the anti-gun crowd will allow near boundless bad behavior by all branches of government.

Although the tactics will vary, the net effect of a host of actions will result in what are effectively gun bans. As John R. Lott, Jr. of the Crime Prevention Research Center explains, we quickly forget how recently we actually did have outright gun bans on the books.

“Until 2008, Washington, D.C., had a complete handgun ban. It was also a felony to put a bullet in the chamber of a gun. In effect, this was a complete ban on guns. In District of Columbia v. Heller, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down these laws.”

So without further ado, consider some of the things we might see if Hillary “What Difference Does It Make” Clinton gets to pick the new Supremes.

The really bad thing is that this is just a short list of some of the possibilities. Imagine a dedicated team dreaming up stuff like this for the next eight years and you might soil your shorts.

Oh, don’t worry about this list giving anyone ideas. These people, while misguided, are smart and playing a long-term game of “disarm the populace” three-dimensional chess. They are already thinking about, and in some cases doing, all of these things. The only difference is that we currently have a split Supreme Court and two massively important rulings that keep their desires in check.

Executive Orders & Executive Actions Will No Longer Be Challengeable.

Hillary’s Supremes can’t hurry love, but they can hurry gov. Remember who gets to decide if a Presidential Executive Order or Executive Action is legal and constitutional? That’s right, the Supremes. A friendly Supreme Court with a five to four or six to three majority will lube the West Wing with super slick policy grease to speed Her Majesty’s desires from Bloomberg’s mouth to legally enforceable law, even if it is wrapped in policy rather than legislation.

We already have a President that just takes executive action even though he legally can’t. Recently, some of his non-gun-related “paper and pen laws” have been struck down by the Supremes. Now imagine a Supreme Court gleefully loyal to the Wicked Witch of wherever she comes from. There’s an endless list of Executive Order or Action possibilities that could make our lives miserable. Daily audits of your local gun store that last six to eight months each. Mandated microstamping. Mandatory smart gun production. How about increasing the regulation requirements placed on gun manufacturers by infinity percent or so? Use your imagination to dream up policy directives given to the BATFE from the Oval Office. It gets really scary really quickly.

Oh, and in this boundless category of fail, Congress won’t be able to do jack squat if the Executive and Legal branches of the federal government are in cahoots, so screaming at your Senators and Representatives isn’t going to fix it.

Gun and Ammo Taxes

If you think parking tickets without representation is bad, consider the possibility of infinite gun and ammo taxes. How would you feel about a $500 gun “safety” tax? Or a $1 per round ammo “Because Children!” tax? Don’t laugh; it’s been done before. Back in 1934, the National Firearms Act tacked a $200 tax onto silencers, machine guns, and other guns deemed evil. Handguns were supposed to be included in that bill, but there was too much political opposition. Oh, and that $200 back then equates to about $3,500 in today’s dollars, so when that little gem was enacted, the entire purpose was to create a defacto gun ban as no one would be able to afford them.

Sadly, this isn’t supposition on my part. Not too long ago, Hillary promoted gun and ammo taxes to help offset the “high cost of gun violence.” And that’s the key. Any tax like this will be wrapped in a Unicorn fart-seasoned blanket of funding for crime prevention or some such thing.

Yes, at the federal level, Congress holds the power of taxation but think about the states. This kind of tax talk is already happening in various locales and the only thing checking these initiatives is the threat of being overruled by the Supremes.

Any State That Wants To Can Act Like California

Imagine a dozen or so states of Fruits and Nuts rather than just a couple. Without a potential constitutional check and balance by the Supreme Court, states can implement any ridiculous laws that they so desire. Don’t think it can happen? Take a look at the new legislation recently signed into law in California. Then, while you’re at it, read up on the process behind New York’s Safe Act. That makes H. Rodham’s legal behavior look virginal in comparison.

Consider the new favored Bloombergian strategy of funding ballot initiatives. With issues far too complex to be communicated to voters, the opposition has built “sound bite” marketing campaigns that sound good on the surface, so people vote for them. Preventing this type of manipulation is one of the primary reasons that our government is designed as a democratic republic. We elect people who are supposed to invest the time to understand issues and make decisions accordingly. If we don’t like what they do, we elect new folks.

Every citizen can't digest every nuance of every piece of legislation, hence the danger of ballot initiatives.

Create Enough Liability To Drive Manufacturers Out Of Business

The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act of 2005 was signed into law for one reason. A favorite strategy of the gun control groups was to sue gun manufacturers for criminal use of their products. So, if Cleetus stole a Winnington 8400 from somewhere, then killed someone with it, the victim’s family, supported by the Brady Bunch, could sue for massive damages, claiming that Winnington was somehow responsible and should have known better. Think about this.

Hillary Clinton
Liar Hillary Clinton needs to go to prison, never mind to be rewarded as president.

That’s no different than a drunk driving victim suing General Motors and Budweiser or a drowning victim’s family suing the water company. The whole intent of this never-ending string of lawsuits was to make it too expensive for gun companies to do business. The PLCAA largely put a stop to the practice. It did not implement any type of immunity for gun makers or retailers. If they do something negligent, they’re still liable, just as Budweiser would still be liable if they accidentally filled beer cans with Valvoline.

This strategy isn’t unrealistic conjecture. Hillary regularly lambasts the PLCAA and wants it repealed.

At an Iowa campaign event on October 7, 2015, she said, “Probably one of the most egregious, wrong, pieces of legislation that ever passed the Congress when it comes to this issue is to protect gun sellers and gun makers from liability. They are the only business in America that is wholly protected from any kind of liability.”

Don’t take my word for it, take hers.

So What To Do?

If this list scares you, as it should, you need to get your butt out and vote. And you need to bring all your family members with you. And you need to pester every friend you have to do the same. It frustrates me to no end how many gun owners sit out elections.

If every gun owner voted, there would be no such thing as a gun control movement. None. Nada. Never. Ever.

GunVote
GunVote

I’m going to do my part and vote, even though my vote is irrelevant. Not because it’s just one vote, but because I live in South Cackalackee. The folks here would gleefully vote for a bowl of six-week-old mildewed cheese grits over Hillary, so South Carolina ain’t goin’ on her electoral map unless she promises to make “Free Bird” the new National Anthem. The rest is up to you folks, especially those of you in states like Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida. There are plenty of other swing states, and you know who you are, so get busy.

AmmoLand News says ~ “Vote For Donald Trump for President.”

About

Tom McHale is the author of the Insanely Practical Guides book series that guides new and experienced shooters alike in a fun, approachable, and practical way. His books are available in print and eBook format on Amazon. You can also find him on Google+, Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest.

  • 42 thoughts on “If Hillary Wins… Well Let’s Just Say It Will Be Bad News for Gun Rights

    1. The one item the author didn’t mention is the building tsunami of outright hate for “government” that has vastly accelerated during the last 8 years. I travel a lot for business, and talk with many people from all walks of life. THEY ARE PISSED. We haven’t reached the point of open revolt YET, but unless things change, it is definitely coming. The MOMENT HRC tries to initiate her anti-gun, anti-Freedom agenda will be the very same moment the fuse is lit on this nationwide powder keg. If you are not prepared, or preparing, for the coming storm, GET TO IT NOW!!!! Tomorrow may be too late.

    2. Your RIGHTS are yours and can not be taken away by some political puppet – no matter what they write on paper. The constitution IS the Law – ALL Policy’s and Rules that go against it are null and void – PERIOD.

      The biggest problem is those who are willing to follow what ever the political puppets say & write, and stand by while all those good cops enforce and FORCE all these un constitutional “laws” down your throats. Get off your fat NASCAR / FOOTBALL Asses and fight back and shoot back if needed.

      Stop waiting for some gun club to save you.

    3. To be forewarned is to be forearmed. Danger faces America and Americans if hillary is elected in November. Like obama before her what she says and promises means nothing about what she will do.

      For some reason Americans seem to think it is necessary to amend the constitution to change it. That is not true at all. The supreme court can do that with a stroke of a pen. All that is necessary is to stack the supreme court with like (perhaps wrong) thinking members and they will do the rest by reinterpreting the amendments to fit the desired context. For instance right now great concern is focused on the second amendment. If however, hillary (an anti gun person) is elected president right now and she appoints the next supreme court justice (and the next president may very well appoint as many as four in eight years) the court could swing to a total communistic progressive court who interprets the word militia to mean government, like the national guard, rather then individual as was meant by the authors of the very constitution.

      Currently there seems to be corruption within each of the three branches of government. To the extent there are no more checks and balances as was originally intended at least. The governments (some elected members) concern no longer is the nation and the citizens it is for the members themselves. Only the citizens can save this sinking ship and they are being bought off with bribes of gifts for their votes. They do not see the dangers coming. But “they” are there and the once greatest nation is being destroyed from within. What happens November 8, 2016 will determine how this turns out for Americans. Sadly even some good people do not or, for some reason, can not see the dangers.

      The United States of America is systematically being “fundamentally transformed,” (destroyed) by so called democrats, into something most do not even know what it is, no one asked for and many will not ever accept. Any attempted transformation not requested and “forced” on the people in a Constitutional Republic “will” (not may) receive violent push back. Perhaps civil war! If an American civil war starts now America and the world will be changed forever.

      1. @Arizona Don, As a hypothetical, before a civil war can start, secure communications are necessary. Using this site is only for fun entertainment. Every thing written here is captured, and then stored at the Utah Data Center. I don’t know if this site is actively monitored, but you can be sure that if you wrote anything that seriously advocated the overthrow of the U.S. government by force of arms, then the trolls would rat you out to the feds. That is why everything written here is only part of ongoing intellectual musings, Mr Coomey.

    4. First, if you’re relying on SCOTUS to protect you from the Big Bad Democrats, you’re fantasizing. DCvHeller was a catastrophic decision and anyone who thinks it wasn’t hasn’t read the text all the way through. DCvHeller doesn’t need a liberal majority to overturn it; Scalia did that when he wrote the decision.

      Second, 100 million Americans own 350 million guns and 200 billion rounds of ammunition. Those guns aren’t going anywhere soon or fast. If the Dems (or the GOP) are stupid enough to try… well, see http://tinyurl.com/TipgPt2. They don’t want another civil war any more than you do.

    5. You all know how corrupt Hillary and Bill are they can be bought; the Chinese did it for the one-sided trade deal that cost millions of Americans there job ( mine being one of them )it only, cost the Chinese 300,000. If she becomes president we pay her 2 Million and she will be on our side then !.

    6. As previous started by Goon100, please vote for me too. California is a Blue state. I’ll vote against Hillary, but in California it may not matter. So please, if your in a swing state, vote and vote against Hillary. Thank you.

    7. Goon100 and EVERYONE ELSE!!
      We cannot vote “for you”. You must vote for the whole United States because every vote counts! PLEASE!!!!
      And if you think they will stop with the Second Amendment you’re misguided. In several states, there have been attempts to squelch political speech within 90 to 100 days of an election. That’s right, we would not even be able to make comments or arguments for or against candidates!

    8. I’m always struck by her words, “What difference does it make?” For her, they mean she won’t answer questions and won’t change a thing. For most in this community of firearms owners, they mean several other things. First, if she wins, a hundred million buyers will conduct a run on firearms purchasing the likes of which the world has never seen. I’d venture the run already has begun. They’ll empty the shelves in states where permits aren’t required or do the run on used firearms. Secondly, owners will eliminate paper trails to their existing firearms even if it means selling them. Thirdly, for all other firearms, they’ll keep them regardless of the law. But they’ll not be kept in traditional display cases or safes. They’ll be well hidden from the government and any other nefarious eyes, perhaps in underground PVC tubes, in storage units under aliases, in sheds on their remote farms, offshore and on and on. The difference it makes is a hundred million firearms owners will step outside the law. They’ll still be peaceable and lawful but they absolutely will not surrender the constitutionally affirmed natural, civil right to defend oneself by any means. We’re seeing proof of this hypothesis in New York, Connecticut, Washington State and Colorado. And if she pushes it, we’ll see the Second Civil War before we see World War III.

    9. The supreme court does not make ‘rulings’. It does not ‘make law’. It gives opinions! Get it right, homosexual marriage is not the ‘law’ of the land, it is the ‘opinion’ of the supreme court. And the supreme court is made up of imperfect men/women,they have been wrong many times in the past, ie not gods. What it will do, if Killary liar gets her way, is it will force gunowners to make a decision. Follow the supreme courts unlawful,unjust ‘opinions’ OR not to follow unconstitutional opinions and pay the consequences of doing so in corrupt unjust federal courts or prisons. This is where it could get ugly.

      1. @ Rj, But see Cooper v Aaron wherein all nine justices opined that the S. Ct’s opinion on all Constitutional mutterers is supreme to the other two branches of government, lower cts, and the states. After Cooper v Aaron the S. Ct. now makes rulings that make law and change the Constitution. The S. Ct. has in effect created a permanent sitting Constitutional Convention.

    10. @Dave, I think that the one legal way that we the people can make a change is by voting. If there is another lawful way I would like to read about it.

      1. Voting for the President doesn’t count. Presidents are put into office by the elite. Forget the idea the people’s vote puts Presidents into office. Research it, you will find out how Presidents get put into office; it sure isn’t by vote.

      2. Revolution? . Americans have no back bone to start a revolution. .history, Hilter made people register thier guns, later confiscated them, imprisoned , tortored, experimented on, and murdered over 6 million people. History repeats itself because people are ass holes who don’t learn..Wild Bill, the real purpose of the second ammendment was to allow The People to bear arms against a Government who removes our Constitutional rights. Thats how we separated from the British rule, taxation and Sheriff’s who imposed excessive taxes and laws. Wake up we need to unite and consider the LAW that allows us to take control, but you need guts, got any?.

        1. I am well aware of the true purpose of the Second Amendment. It has been a long time since anyone questioned my personal courage. What do you have in mind?

          1. Come on Justin Farnham. What do yo have in mind. If you are concerned about government monitoring. Don’t worry they are. So lets have an intellectual and hypothetical conversation.

          2. @Bill,I wonder what branch of the military this Farnham clown was in ? You guessed it,none ! Bill,you have proved your courage by your long service to our country,and the way you conduct yourself in civilian life,day in day out ! Bill,I have sworn off using profanity on this site but this clown sure makes it difficult. Take care my good friend,TEX

            1. @Tex, he might be a fed just trying to draw out people. You know, a false flag operation.

    11. Tom, why is it that “we the people” cannot remember that we people elect our representatives who are allowing these things to continue. We people can do in every state just what Colorado did to remove those legislators who do not act as we people want. Actually, we can remove any elected official in each state or the U. S. Congress if we choose to act. We should never allow any legislators to do only what big business, or money dictates because those are not the real, and final word.

      If we act against our legislators to get them to vote only on what we want, or to remove them from office we can stop any President from any action, even Executive Orders. It would seem that none of our elected officials wanted to take any action against Obama when he was running for office, nor to take the action to impeach him when he started to blatantly abuse his powers of office. How can we forget to do a thing?

      About twenty years after I got out of school, I went back for the study of politics and our Constitution. After quite a few years I found the only lawful way in which “we the people” can take action, and make immediate change to the way
      things have gone so terribly wrong. In a survey I made on this issue every person surveyed from a reasonable cross section of society was all for the action, and would vote to pass it on a ballot. I have since also stated online that there was a method by which things could be changed, and for anyone who wanted to know more, or to help to contact me. After the past several years of hearing all the grumbling, and complaints, I had only one person even contact me. That person did like the idea, and even thought there could be no way it would fail. However, with that one and all I have spoken with, no one wants to do anything personally to get the ball rolling. They all forget the laws that allow for us to do, and further won’t lift a finger to do anything. So, what good is all the grumbling, and complaining if no one will do a thing to make change? Voting in the best President still will not make any real change. It might just delay
      the wrong acts by those who we don’t want.

      1. Hi, Dave. I have been thinking about the same thing you mentioned about the procedure on removing elected people from office that violate their oath of office and what legal options there are to remove them besides recalling them? I would like to know what you have discovered on how to do that?

        1. That power to remove a corrupt official from office lies within our state constitution.

          MOST state constitutions gives us the power to have a corrupt official investigated through grand jury investigation for willful neglect of statutory duty as per their oath of office has one primary method, the win the majority of the population don’t even realize that their state doesn’t fact have a constitution and that within that Constitution gives them the power to remove corrupt officials from office. Well, you can see where the problem begins.

          The other sad part is that while the sheeple sleep the state legislators in many states have slowly and silently started eroding the power of the people to remove an elected official for willful neglect of statutory duty or any other crimes while in office.

          The solution would be for people to start reviewing their state constitutions to locate that mechanism of their personal power to begin the investigation process against the corrupt officials.

    12. If Hitlery wins it will be proof that the past two terms have allowed subversion to the point that election outcomes are decided by the people providing the software that counts the votes and not by how the Citizen voter votes. My thoughts are that civil war will result if the criminal Clinton is declared the winner to follow two terms of criminal Obama/Soetero rule for the ruin of the USA.

    13. Your (the author) friend may be in the business but is unbelievably naive! She has said everything she will do and constantly do to remove our 2A rights. What a nightmare if the treasonous one wins! Those on the left are salivating us normal folks need to prevent this.

      1. When, “they” come for the 2nd is when we USE the 2nd. Until then all sides will use it for a large fugazi, milking away every nickel and dime of our hard-earned tax dollars that we so sheepishly hand over to them, “against our will”. (Sarcasm intended)

    14. Actually, every legislator can’t digest every nuance of every piece of legislation. Hence the BEAUTY of ballot initiatives. Whatever happened to ‘we the people’?

      1. Yeah that worked like a champ in Washington state with the Universal Background check initiative. People voted on a nice sounding phrase without understanding the issue. Ballot initiatives are a double edged sword. Whichever side can package such an initiative into a “nice sounding” thing and pour money into an ad campaign will win it.

        1. Washington state would suffer a state income tax were it not for the citizen initiative process. By the way, money is not the issue. Getting Americans involved and off their collective fat azzes to VOTE is the issue. Most folks are too lazy to REGISTER to vote.

      2. The article is informative but American citizens seem to overlook the obvious…..
        If the President appoints people to hold position in the highest court in the land then THERE IS NO CHECKS AND BALANCE for activity.
        When a President puts people into power for their agenda then it is impossible to say there is a checks and balance. Forget the checks and balance; it doesn’t exist. It is one of the biggest farces put on by our “government”.

        1. It is the resposibility and duty of, WE, The People to apply and maintain the checks and balances of ALL POWER in government.

          It was largely the 60’s generation of dopers, feminists and jocks that shreded those responsibilities and dutier, all breaking away from the overall focus of the nation for their own petty special interests.

      3. Many legislators can’t digest any nuances of any piece of legislation. As for We the People, one second after election night, legislators know that they can do any thing that they want and that no one will remember what they do four years later. As to ballot initiatives, you never know the real story about ballot initiatives, and there are many people that remain ignorant then vote based upon some sound bite. hiLIARy is counting on it.

    15. I’m in Jersey where we do not have 2a rights. By state law all firearms are illegal and there are less than 2,000 CCW permits out of a population of 9 million. My vote means nothing, please vote for me because this state will stay blue.

      1. Figure out how many of us have FID cards, own guns and join hands to the state house and change the chief of police in your town to be pro gun. We have no desire to fight anymore. We leave it to the next guy. NJ is a liberal, socialist state. We need to change it and vote democrats out of the legislature. Especially sweeny.

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