School Rifle Team Ban Proves ‘Gun Safety Laws’ Claims are Lies

Rosenthal aims to keep all young people ignorant and indoctrinated. (Facebook)
Rosenthal aims to keep all young people ignorant and indoctrinated. (Facebook)

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “[A] proposal in New York's legislature would outlaw all high school shooting sports programs in the state — including air rifle teams and archery clubs — on the premise that they feed into a gun and shooting culture that could lead to violence,” the Associated Press reported Thursday.

“Schools should not be supporting the spread of gun culture in society,”  bill sponsor Manhattan Assemblywoman Linda B. Rosenthal (a Democrat, naturally) insists. “If parents want their children to have shooting instruction, there are opportunities that have nothing to do with the school.”

The problem with that is, when students do it on their own time and share the experience, the anti-gun zealots melt down and report them to “authorities.” Ask Kyle Kashuv.

Besides, schools are supposed to be where people go to learn things, and a significant number of American homes are lived in by gun owners who pay taxes that fund public schools.

What Rosenthals’ bill aims to do is amend New York education laws as currently enacted that “authorize instructions to be given in the safe and proper use of firearms allowed by law.” What she wants to do instead is impose:

“PROHIBITION OF MARKSMANSHIP AND/OR SHOOTING PROGRAMS … NO PUBLIC SCHOOL SHALL OFFER MARKSMANSHIP AND/OR SHOOTING PROGRAMS.”

So much for gun-grabber claims that what they’re attempting to pass “commonsense gun safety laws.” That’s just a transparently obvious catchphrase to mask disarmament goals. If you want to learn about actual gun safety, particularly for youths, no organization does more – or is more qualified to do it – than the group they blame, the National Rifle Association. (As a side note to show how times have changed, back when DC Comics hadn’t yet been taken over by “progressives” and was headquartered blocks from what is now Rosenthal's district – Superboy championed an NRA-sponsored youth shooting program.)

Rosenthal’s bill confirms the Orwellian cognitive dissonance that says ignorance is strength, or in this case, safety. As we see time and again, for oxymoronic “progressives,” every day is Opposite Day.

Rosenthal has learned what “matters” from the “best.”

Another inconvenient truth, from no less a source than the U.S. Department of Justice in its 1994 research summary “Urban Delinquency and Substance Abuse – Initial Findings,” the conclusion under “Gun ownership and delinquency” (p. 18) noted:

“Boys who own legal firearms, however, have much lower rates of delinquency and drug use and are even slightly less delinquent than nonowners of guns.”

Rosenthal knows that ignorance leads to bigotry and fear, and that those, in turn, lead to hatred and a demand that “something must be done.” It is in her interests to keep constituents ignorant enough to continue giving her political power.

What she’s trying to do will actually make young people less safe, but that is of no concern to her.

All that matters to those who crave it is more power.


About David Codrea:David Codrea

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating / defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament.

In addition to being a field editor/columnist at GUNS Magazine and associate editor for Oath Keepers, he blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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    Docduracoat
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    Docduracoat

    Gun Culure IS American culture!

    wkm1911
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    wkm1911

    This Rosenthal woman needs to leave this country of ours and move to one of these free and wonderful places like Russia, China, Vietnam, North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Mexico. Just to name a few. Go where the people have to depend on their wonderful Government that loves them so much that they defend them to the point of inprisonment if they try to protect themselves. Can not these stupid people like Rosenthal remember history or read honest history. I believe we the majority of our United States want to be able to have our 1st and 2nd amendments that… Read more »

    ExGob
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    ExGob

    I totally agree! ANYONE living or visiting in The United States Of America, who thinks there is another country greater than ours, needs to get out immediately and never come back! If they can’t admire, support and defend our Country, we don’t need or want them.

    Robert J. Lucas
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    Robert J. Lucas

    Author: Rhodney Freeman Comment: A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable… Read more »

    TheHolyCrow
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    TheHolyCrow

    I hate to be “politically incorrect” (cough cough), but I just can’t fail to notice a very common thread amongst the proponents of all this “gun control”. And quiet recently, I have become aware of what is known as “Project Talpiot”. Now, I don’t know if this is factual at all, but it sure does have to be vetted by all concerned, and the truth of it discerned. It seems that gun control and the disarming of the population is crucial to the implementation of this “Talpiot” program. It seems to go hand in hand with the Kalergi Plan. A… Read more »

    dumvet
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    dumvet

    It seems more nuts and fruits have moved from California to NY!

    M.j.
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    M.j.

    Oh we still have more then we can flush down the toilet out here in Communist California

    bob
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    bob

    what about police academies,they are state schools

    Dan Schwager
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    Dan Schwager

    You know the old saying don’t judge a book by its cover? but when it comes to Democrats if they LOOK goofy they are most likely are goofy with goofy ideas.

    Bob Koceja
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    Bob Koceja

    “If parents want their children to have shooting instruction, there are opportunities that have nothing to do with the school.”
    Why are we paying for Social workers, and Psychologist to be on staff in schools. If the child needs mental help there are other places to get it besides schools.

    AJ Folger
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    AJ Folger

    Oh what can I say ? You refused to post my comment even after I provided the “required” information.

    Dave Brown
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    Dave Brown

    As usual I only read parts as it is always the same old same old, complaining about the complainers. I will have 2 Grandbuds in School next year, grades K and 1st. I don’t think I want the school teaching them about The Shooting Sports or Self Defense. But I do want them to teach them how 10 grade K kids to take down a shooter if their lives dependent on it. I mean it. Time to take some of the Security away from all of our government buildings and use that money to Lock The Doors at our schools.… Read more »

    Trumped
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    Trumped

    As usual, you continue to complain and don’t see the irony.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @DB you write, “…I don’t think I want the school teaching them about The Shooting Sports or Self Defense. But I do want them to teach them how 10 grade K kids to take down a shooter…” Isn’t taking down a shooter self defense?
    As usual you throw together a swirling blend of poor ideas in a mix pronouns so that your comments are nearly unintelligible. Your clearest described thought is “… I don’t think…”

    minute-man
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    minute-man

    I fully agree Wild Bill ! Dave Brown is a mixed up lost soul

    Allen Thompson
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    Allen Thompson

    Hey buddy, i also have 2 wonderful grandaughters starting the same grades as yours, but i would rather my school teach them firearm safety and shooting, then sex education and how to be polite to muslims by learning the Quran. I have already started teaching them i am an NRA instructor myself but in my opion there is never enough training. And schools have been teaching the shooting sports for decades.

    Ron
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    Ron

    Wow Dave, you really missed some important points of the discussion. You say that the NRA no longer wants to teach firearms safety, yet it is still the largest teacher of just that subject on the planet.. You dont like that they are in the fight for gun owners rights, but without them there would BE no gun owners rights. You want to give your grandkids firearms, but if the NRA does not stop the liberals then you wont be able to own them much less give them to your grandkids. It aint about 21, 18, or 57, its government… Read more »

    Healey2
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    Healey2

    Ron,
    I was going to post, but you took the words right out of my mouth… Well said! I’ve been an NRA member for most of my adult life and a life member, Patron level for some time now. For decades now, the NRA has had to waste precious resources fighting for our basic rights rather than do what they’ve done for over a century, and that is to teach firearms marksmanship and safety.

    Henry
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    Henry

    If there is any justice in the world, those two kids will grow up to consider that photo even more embarrassing than the traditional baby-butt-in-the-bathtub photo.

    Mark
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    Mark

    We need MORE people in the “gun culture”, not less. Why? Because people involved in the
    “Gun Culture” are some of the most law abiding, respectful, reasonable people in the country! Maybe New York is confusing the “gun culture” with the ACTUAL problem….the “criminal entitlement culture”.

    Richard Hilton
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    Richard Hilton

    Actually just what does football or basketball or even track, baseball, or any of the other so called sports have to do with getting and indoctrination oh excuse me I mean education these days. I think I should only have to pay taxes for what I feel is appropriate education. Teachers and Instructors or what ever they call themselves should not be allowed to force their opinions on our children. They should only teach the facts if they can find any anymore, and not push their political views on anyone. We allow to much slack in dealing with them if… Read more »

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @Richard…had to think on it a minute but, yeah I guess I see where these sports stars could be indoctrinated . Probably subliminal meditation music while the are “earning ” their free basket weaving degree .

    John Dow
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    John Dow

    Best remove straws from the cafeteria – can’t have anyone using peashooters.

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @ John …I read the other day where the EPA or some such outfit was trying to ban plastic straws because they do not break down and are becoming one of the big “pollutants”

    Henry
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    Henry

    The answer (as it is to most such questions) is California. City of Malibu has already banned them; the state hopes to restrict them.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/07/california-targets-removable-plastic-bottle-caps-plastic-straws.html

    wacker123
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    wacker123

    Our country has serious issues. The attack on the Second Amendment is the beginning of an assault on Constitution and it’s Amendments. In particular the Second and First Amendments. Democrats, Libaerals, Progressives, Socialist and Communist (all one and the same) are dividing our country. Which I am concerned, will lead to be a serious confrontation.

    Green Mtn. Boy
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    Green Mtn. Boy

    All gun control/safety is made up of lies and is UnConstitutional,PERIOD.

    Tionico
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    Tionico

    My Dad grew up on a farm in rural Nevada. By the time he was a skinny short six year old, he was good with a rifle. By the time they were eight, most of the boys had their own rifles. When they rode their horses to school they often brought their rifles along, right into the classroom (singular.. one room house) They had all learned gun safety before they were ever given a round to chamber. Even at a nickel a box, each round was valuable enough they got pretty accurate right away. The boys at school, and sometimes… Read more »

    James Higginbotham
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    James Higginbotham

    well.
    i taught our kids to shoot and hunt like i was by my dad.
    and now teaching grand Kids, with their dads.
    our soon to be 13 year old grand daughter will be going to hunter safety this year, so Grandpa will be giving her, her OWN RIFLE, like i did her 15 year old Brother last month for his Birthday.
    LUCKY KIDS LOL.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    I know that I should focus on the rational, logical, analytical, thoughtful, reflective perspective of Codrea’s article, but that middle picture of the ” twin homelys” is just too distracting! That picture should be preceded by a health warning label.

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @WB…could not have said it more succinctly .

    Paul Short
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    Paul Short

    Perhaps they should stop drivers ed classes… It COULD lead to violent deaths on the highways…

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @Paul …it could lead to assault vehicles !

    helen sabin
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    helen sabin

    Dodgeball, football, soccer, and other sports taught in high school damage more children each year physically than a shooting sport has ever done. How come we NEVER hear of concussions from shooting sports? Broken bones? Paralysis like my cousin suffered who is now a quadriplegic? The high school where I taught had a rifle range and I was the sponsor of the club. NONE Of the children who were taught to respect and shoot guns ever shot anyone else. Schools can serve many purposes and I somewhat agree with the social workers and psychologists on staffs…however when you have a… Read more »

    MBH
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    MBH

    If Gun Control takes effect there will be 50 million new criminals with guns, I will be one of them!

    RAYMOND
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    RAYMOND

    AND I WILL BE RIGHT THERE WITH YOU ,JUST LIKE MILLIONS OF OTHERS..

    Robert J, Lucas
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    Robert J, Lucas

    Rosenthal, needs to discuss her stupidity with the Jews For the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. About JPFO: Fierce Defender of American Liberty Three primary goals drive the Washington-based human-rights group Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (JPFO): Destroy so-called “gun control” (code words for disarming innocent people). Expose the misguided notions that lead people to seek out so-called “gun control”. Encourage Americans to understand and defend all of the Bill of Rights for all citizens. The Second Amendment is the “Guardian” of the Bill of Rights. Get a very aggressive defense of your rights. Founded by Jews in 1989,… Read more »

    SK
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    SK

    Archery – the gateway sport.

    GomeznSA
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    GomeznSA

    Yep, next they will be going to crossbows and then ballistas………………followed by catapults and trebuchets.

    Muckraker
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    Muckraker

    The angry puss on Linda Rosenthal-D-NY could stop a hunting dog in its tracks. If the school bans gun clubs the kiddies will go to a private gun club to learn firearms safety. Kyle Kashuv the pro -gun, pro-second Amendment, pro-NRA hero Parkland shooting survivor did just that with his father. One of the wuss bedwetter mothers reported the father-son outing to the cops. Heavily armed sheriff’s deputies and school Resource Officers pulled Kyle’s sorry ass out of class the interrogate him. “Why was he shooting that scary looking gun?” These were the same coward, dereliction of duty deputies who… Read more »

    ExGob
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    ExGob

    While I do not know what, if any, type of retaliatory action Kyle’s parents might have already taken relative to the attack on their son, I do know that If I were the boy’s father, I would have contacted an attorney quicker than a cat can lick it’s ass, tail up and tongue out! School officials have absolutely no authority over what minor students do with their parents outside of the school’s jurisdiction and/or participation. Parents or other legal custodial guardians are, by law, held responsible for the actions of their minor children. They are not and should not be… Read more »

    Mandy ratledge
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    Mandy ratledge

    I would rather my girls know how to safely handle a gun than get to a friend’s house with a gun that loaded and someone accidentally shit because they didn’t know how to check!!! Owning a gun knowing how to use it does not encourage our kids to kill other kids!! The video games and shows parents are letting kids play are an issue get off ur soap box and don’t dumb down our kids! You want you kids to be blind fine but don’t take away a kids option to b included in something that is great just because… Read more »

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @Mandy…I taught Hunter Safety in Kansas for more than 25 yrs. At times a mother would ask “Why should my daughter take this course” ? The answer that satisfied mothers most was When your daughter gets married her husband might have guns , ” If she comes across a gun in their house wouldn’t you at least like to know she knows how to handle it safely , and what not to do with it ” ?

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Mandy, Good for you.
    @OV, That is a terrific Kansas answer, logical and diplomatically delivered.

    Oldvet
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    Oldvet

    @WB…In 25 yrs. we answered that question several times . By and large the great majority of the parents were level headed and not out to cause trouble .

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    You should have been in the Diplocatic Corps!

    Rock
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    Rock

    The used to be “man” in the picture OBVIOUSLY has less in his PANTIES that his overshadowing antigun libtard Dem wife that wears the pants. Typical “yes dear”, pu**y lib/Dem husband…. The kids will act as placards till they figure out their parents are commie assholes. How many time was Rosenthal hit with the UGLY STICK ????

    Houndsman
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    Houndsman

    The perp that swatted Rosenthal skipped the stick and used the whole dang tree.

    Muckraker
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    Muckraker

    Ugly Stick is not just for fishing. Someone must have really worked her (Rosenthal) over. Even NY AG Schneiderman, Whinestein, Wenis, Spiter and Kumo the crook would toss her back, hook still in her Bass shaped mouth. What a woofer. She makes crooked Hillary look good… and that’s a stretch. Why is all the dog meat on the Dem side? You can pick them out of a crowd. Angry, no shape, body hair, crazed look, BO, dog doo breath, dress in the dark, wearing space shoes with suction cups, spit when they talk.

    Missouri Born
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    Missouri Born

    All the bleach Rosenthal has put on her head has eaten away her brain with this kind of reasoning, how does archery have anything to do with shooting guns.
    Just another dumb liberal who wants to control others.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @MB, Yes, is it a rule of the democrat party that all female members must make themselves homely in appearance and foolish of thought?

    tomcat
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    tomcat

    @ Wild Bill you might add an ugly scowl to the description. They try to look meaner than a snake.

    Wild Bill
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    Wild Bill

    @Tcat, Come to think of it, I have seen snakes that were more attractive in appearance and courteous of manner, than those two… individuals. “Puff the Adder” and her gal pal “Pretty Viperous”

    Bruce Welch
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    Bruce Welch

    Another fantastic article David, keep up the fight.

    The Pontificant
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    The Pontificant

    They won’t stop until the consequences of continuing become too expensive to for them to handle.

    James Russell Bailey
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    James Russell Bailey

    Superb article David, thank you for the effort, and for pointing out yet another totalitarian our representative.

    Pete Farris
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    Pete Farris

    I first learned to shoot at a range in Washington, D.C. It was located on the second floor adjacent to– or perhaps an upstairs part of– Union Station. If you’d like to see a picture of it, there is a photo in an online article about teaching youth shooting which shows Frank Parsons and his sons there. It was the home of the Pinwheel Junior Rifle Club and was NRA affiliated. I was taught safety and marksmanship.