‘Unique Tool’ for ‘Gun Suicides’ Offers False Hope, Invites Tragedy

People contemplating killing themselves need real help, not phony virtue signaling from gun-grabbers. (Édouard Manet: Le Suicidé

U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “Washington State Debuts Unique Tool to Reduce Gun Suicides,” a Tuesday “report” from The Trace claims. “An innovative prevention measure gives people the power to suspend their own gun rights.”

Before we go further, a word about the source is in order. While it’s true that ad hominem arguments are logical fallacies, what’s also true is that – their protests of editorial independence notwithstanding – The Trace was funded with seed money from Michael Bloomberg and exists for the purpose of discouraging private gun ownership. Simply put, the biased venture reeks of personally motivated gun-grab agendas.

Personal motivation is what’s behind this latest bright idea. It’s the brainchild of a self-described bipolar law professor who has struggled with depression and thoughts of suicide. The basic idea is to put yourself on a “no buy” list to prevent impulse purchases. If you feel better a week later, you can take yourself off and the record of the waiver must be destroyed.

That seems a hell of a loophole, and presumes a lot more is understood about mental health than actually is. And it’s all based on self-diagnosis by someone in severe emotional distress, whose at-the-moment presence of mind is the sole determinant of reliable judgment.

There are so many other variables that make this “bipartisan” law ludicrous, such as what happens if someone already owns guns (what, no provision for confiscation?), or if pills, rope and bridge alternatives are available, but let’s just focus on one truism: Anyone who can’t be trusted with a gun can’t be trusted without a custodian. To deny that is to invite disaster.

If you believe you’re going to kill yourself – by any means – you seriously need intervention and treatment. If certifying to the authorities that you can’t be trusted with a gun because you fear you’ll blow your brains out isn’t cause for an observation commitment, what is?

To take it all back in a week and expect everybody to act as if nothing happened is just nuts. Worse, it makes it appear something is being done at the very time real help is needed most.

So naturally, the Bloombergians at The Trace, being unique tools of the disarmers, are presenting this as exciting and new, and something that will make an appreciable difference while being voluntary (for now). Promises that “The waivers are designed to be confidential, and can’t be used in legal proceedings, or as a condition of employment or mental health treatment” are hardly compelling. Don’t be surprised if that part of the law gets overturned if used to initiate “red flag” confiscations, or if a third party gets hurt and the fact of the waiver is introduced in a civil suit (particularly if it involves jurisdiction matters in another state).

People are free to have reasons of their own not to want to buy a gun, and the answer is simple and voluntary, without a need to invoke the state:

Don’t buy one.

But when disturbed people say they don’t trust themselves to make their own purchasing decisions based on potential lethal consequences and need the state to intervene, that just screams “mental incompetence.” Hell, needing help with a fiduciary trustee has already been used as “justification” for disarming veterans as “mental defectives.”

This is really just another opportunity for the antis to further blame guns for social ills, and to make it look like those who don’t want you to own them are interested in beneficial, voluntary measures. They're not.


About David Codrea:David Codrea

David Codrea is the winner of multiple journalist awards for investigating/defending the RKBA and a long-time gun owner rights advocate who defiantly challenges the folly of citizen disarmament. He blogs at “The War on Guns: Notes from the Resistance,” is a regularly featured contributor to Firearms News, and posts on Twitter: @dcodrea and Facebook.

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Pete
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Pete

It makes perfect sense.
Once this fails (it doesn’t really matter how often) there will be the cry that suicidal people are not reporting themselves, therefore the State needs to make the determination of who can be trusted with a gun.

Henry
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Henry

“If you feel better a week later, you can take yourself off and the record of the waiver must be destroyed.”
Oh, I’m sure it will be, the same way that Janet Reno “destroyed” the NICS records the law forbade her to retain.
http://davekopel.org/NRO/2000/Instant-Check-Permanent-Record.htm

Bob Koceja
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Bob Koceja

“Suicide is a long term solution to a short term situation.”
There is nothing or no one worth killing yourself over.

Shame on every Gun Owner who votes Democrat.

Witold Pilecki
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Witold Pilecki

34 years ago I was in a bad place (and should have been happy with the pending birth of my daughter), and as we humans tend to do, my imagination ran away with the situation. I could only imagine the absolute worst outcome. For weeks, I was so depressed I only saw one way out. Even though I owned firearms, the thought of using one to end it all actually never crossed my mind. The only reason I am sitting here writing this is because the tempered glass window on the 34th floor of the building I was working in… Read more »

Cea
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Cea

Glad to hear that you were able to work through it all!!

Sam Vanderburg
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Sam Vanderburg

In Great Britain, with their strict gun control and limited access, the means of choice has moved to hanging. A suicidal person will find a means if determined. The best thing to do is to befriend someone who is down and out and make sure they are not suicidal. If they are, help them find real help. There is professional help. Suicide is one preventable death if some one will intervene. Be that someone to a friend before it is too late. Check out the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention at afsp.org. You can make a difference and it may… Read more »

A.x. Perez
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A.x. Perez

Funny thing about bi polar disorder, it’s cyclical.. I day you are so depressed suicide seems like the only way out, Two three weeks later you’re on a natural high so good they don’t make drugs good enough to reach where you are. Or else you can be so full of rage you don’t shoot people because beating them to death with your bare hands is so damn much fun. Half the time you’re somewhere in between. Talk about a revolving door! And the anti-gunners want to have these guys self report? I submit anyone with bi polar who at… Read more »

RayJN
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RayJN

Once the government has them I do not believe you will EVER get them back, and probably NEVER be able to buy another, legally anyway.

freewill
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freewill

The US ranks 47th world wide in suicides, according to the website world life expectancy… 46 country’s with strict gun controls have a higher suicide rate than the US..The last I checked the US had roughly 44,000 suicides, less than half roughly 19,000 were committed with a firearm, people simply find other ways to kill them selves..The American Indian has the highest suicide rate and its illegal to have a firearm on the reservation, They sit in the middle of the road at night just to get run over…In Japan the rate is so high that the Government is charging… Read more »

Bill
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Bill

That’s the thing about harakiri. You need a gun to do it, right?

Oldvet
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Oldvet

Nope harakiri was a ritual by dishonored samurai warriors to disembowel themselves with a sword thus commiting suicide .

Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax

I think he left off the /sarc coding for his comment. Headers matter.

Sierra556
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Sierra556

Regardless of want or need, gun ownership is a choice. If you put yourself on some list to waive your rights, you’re foolish to think you’d get them back without a long and perhaps expensive, fight. You’ve declared yourself guilty and it’s now on you to provide proof of innocence. Careful what you wish for. On the other hand, l’d love to see all self proclaimed gun haters, gun grabbers, Leftist idiot libtards give up their guns(cuz they really have them) and sign their rights away. It would be their choice. Leave the rest of us to our freedom to… Read more »

Paul
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Paul

So … does this suspend their drivers license and vehicle registration? Does it trigger a tow truck to take possession of their dangerous motor vehicle? Does it cause a review of the medication this person has access to?

Not that we needed any more evidence of bias, stuck on stupid and a solution in search of a problem.

Michael J
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Michael J

This is the same state that approved mulching human remains has come up with another great idea. Who are these morons?

JPM
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JPM

Practically every day there is a new, or revision of an old, mental disorder put out by the mental health profession. Basically, they create disorders in order to increase the level of the requirement for their “expertise” ( job security) . It is the same thing many professions do when they make new regulations or alter existing ones to justify their jobs. Do you really think that when the Social Security Administration or the Veterans’ Administration deny a claim and then take over a year to review and approve it that it really is anything but job security? If they… Read more »

Jack
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Jack

THE PROBLEM with people getting professional mental help is things like the red flag laws and other deterrents put on firearm owners by doctors and other medical world professionals. If a person is in need of SOME counseling (very little to a bit more) and a gun owner they are leery to tell their doctor or others for that matter, for fear of getting on some kind of threat list and having their house searched and their firearms taken away. It is a true catch 22–and engineered by the anti-Second Amendment bunch through the AMA for political reasons.

Vincent Brady
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Vincent Brady

Simply an effort to make someone else responsible for your own safety, which is irresponsible! What irony!

greg
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greg

I just read the trace report, what a shovel full of bovine excrement. there is no possibility of abuse by the state after someone self-reports and then attempts to get their firearms back, no not at all. just like the erpo’s, there is no requirement to get mental health care, because we all know that you only have one thought of suicide and then you are cured and never contemplate it again. how many alcoholics and drug addicts fall off the wagon time and time again. the professor and author need some mental health care.

Rocky Mountain
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Rocky Mountain

Without tyranny Ammoland would be nothing but advertisements and hunting stories.

SQWRLZ
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SQWRLZ

Lol’ed.

Ansel Hazen
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Ansel Hazen

You would think with all the money the NRA has they could create a few astroturf organizations just like the left does but……………………………….. Crickets.

The solution is simple. Convert your dues money for the NRA into ammo. HEED THE CALL UP and join your states Militia.

SQWRLZ
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SQWRLZ

Simple and failure prone. Equivalent backer$ in modern times would be your Elon-Musk-types and Internet influencers. You need more than guns. Not saying you’re wrong, but there’s a domestic army to meet force with force.

revjen45
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revjen45

The armed choose between freedom and death. The un/disarmed choose between servitude and death.
If you have a suitable firearm and a suitable Weltanschauung you are a militia member.
If you won’t get aboard the cattle car you are in the militia.
If you think that it’s better to fall resisting tyranny than survive to see defeat you are in the militia.
Or we can turn to a subject matter expert:
“I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials.” _G. Mason