President Trump State of the Union – Second Amendment is Under Siege

U.S.A.-(Ammoland.com)- In the State of the Union speech on Tuesday night, President Trump vowed to protect Second Amendment rights.

President Trump gave an epic State of The Union (SOTU) speech on 4 February 2020. He touched on numerous themes, highlighted multiple successes of the Trump Administration, and recognized numerous exceptional individuals. President Trump honored radio talk show icon Rush Limbaugh with the highest civilian award, the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

The speech started near 9 p.m. Eastern time. About 69 minutes into the speech, President Trump spoke of freedom of religion, and his administration's commitment to protecting First Amendment rights.

Then he addressed the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights. From the SOTU, 2020:

“Just as we believe in the First Amendment, we believe in another Constitutional right that is under siege all across our country.

So long as I am president, I will always protect your Second Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms.”

Presidents' words during SOTU speeches are always analyzed in multiple ways. They are primarily political speeches, for political purposes. The content shows, at a minimum, what the President believes is worth emphasizing for political purposes.

There has never been as clear a divide between the two main political parties, on support for the Second Amendment, as exists today.

Democrats, if they believe the Constitution has any meaningful constraints on government, have variously stated the Second Amendment is outdated, only applies to militia members (approved of by the federal government), does not apply to most firearms, does not apply outside the home (except possibly for regulated hunting), and can be restricted to any extent, as long as the word “safety” is applied.

President Trump, and what is becoming the Trumpian Republican party, took care to place the Second Amendment on the same level as the First Amendment in the SOTU.

President Trump stated the Second Amendment is “under siege all across our country.”

President Trump said, “I will always protect your Second Amendment Right to Keep and Bear Arms.”

Those two statements imply serious action to protect the Second Amendment from the attacks against it, which are occurring all over the United States.

Second Amendment supporters can easily identify those attacks, from Virginia, and Maryland to Nevada, Washington state, Oregon and California.

During the first two years of the Trump Administration, members of his own party stopped any legislation to restore Second Amendment rights from passing through Congress. Consider the effects of former Senator John McCain and former Speaker of the House Paul Ryan.

During the third year of the Trump Administration, and almost certainly for the fourth year, any efforts to restore Second Amendment rights with legislation, have been and will be, stymied by Democrat control of the House of Representatives.

The Trump Administration has had some Second Amendment wins on the regulatory level (gunsmith tax), some backsliding (bump stocks) and several ongoing fights in the Courts.

It will be up to Second Amendment supporters to push for substantive support for Second Amendment restoration as part of the 2020 campaign season.

Second Amendment supporters need to push for promises to pass national reciprocity, which should include reciprocity for Constitutional Carry states.

Second Amendment supporters need to push for a promise to pass the Hearing Protection Act, and reform of the National Firearms Act to remove the idiotic inclusion of short-barrelled rifles and shotguns. They need to push for a repeal of the 1986 ban on the production of new, legal (even if highly regulated), automatic firearms.

The administration should push for passage of the Knife Owner's Protection Act, to restore Second Amendment rights to carry arms other than firearms.

President Trump's words about the Second Amendment are not a guarantee of action by the Trump Administration. They are an opportunity for Second Amendment supporters to demand the Administration commit to a concrete policy before 2020 election.

Those demands would set the stage for action in a second term Trump administration, with dozens of fewer Republican opponents, and Republican control of both houses of Congress.


About Dean Weingarten:Dean Weingarten

Dean Weingarten has been a peace officer, a military officer, was on the University of Wisconsin Pistol Team for four years, and was first certified to teach firearms safety in 1973. He taught the Arizona concealed carry course for fifteen years until the goal of Constitutional Carry was attained. He has degrees in meteorology and mining engineering, and retired from the Department of Defense after a 30 year career in Army Research, Development, Testing, and Evaluation.

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Ricardo Pacetti
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I just hope POTUS can take back Virginia from the Demorats.

Get Out
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Get Out

@RP, The voters are the ones that can take Virginia back. It’ll require 100% of the gun owners to vote in pro-gun politicians to undo the damage already done.

Will
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Will

@GetOut,why the hell voting seems to be so difficult for some people to understand is beyond belief. President Trump can’t make the 2A community in Virginia vote! Now voters will have to vote just to reverse bullshit they shouldn’t even have to deal with! VOTE!

Old Ch.E.
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Old Ch.E.

Well in spite of it all he is still the best president since Regan and maybe before that. Who do you guys have in mind. Mitt? Jeb? Bernie? or maybe Pocahontas?

USA
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USA

Glimpse of Warren world.

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Bill
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Bill

Also, was he praising the fact or condemning it? I’m not sure. Go back and listen.

Stag
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Stag

The orange infringer saying he’ll protect the 2A is hilarious. He’s unconstitutionally banned bumpstocks, signed gun control into law with the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2018, supports red flag laws, raising the age to purchase arms, and banning silencers. He’s a typical Republican. Claims to support the constitution but doesn’t.

Arny
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Arny

You had 9 thumbs down I could only take one away. I’m not afraid to admit something when you’re right. It’s a shame we Can’t find Pro 2A candidates to run for office of president. And fill the house & senate with the same. The only way I see to win this is to have members from Pro gun orgs run for office. We need Solid Candidates with organized groups funding them. We need to get rid of lobbyist In DC. None are our friends. All liars & con artist. GOA would be a better org to sponsor ($$) political… Read more »

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

The socialist democrats know that American citizens own 70 times as many guns as the U.S. military and all U.S. police forces combined. That’s why their number one objective is to disarm us. “American communists” have no prayer of a “violent takeover”, because we can stop them easily, and for every one we kill, 50 will run an hide. The real answer though is totally in our power: VOTE VOTE VOTE. Virginia went Dem with a 40% voter turnout. AOC won an election with a 28% voter turnout. The 2016 presidential election was barely over 50% turnout. 124 million American… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Bowser, Gosh, I sure wish that the socialist (communist) dems did not know that. It would be easier to get them to rise up in righteous, indignant, and armed revolt. Then we could use the Fed gov logistical train to reduce libtard numbers.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@WB…It may work out , like I said earlier if bernie doesn’t get the nod his loonies may go off on the rest of the ‘dem’s” and that would allow gov intervention wouldn’t it ?

Vern
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Vern

Didn’t Bernie’s loonies just fall in step last time he didn’t get the nod? I think it has sumpin to do with fear of losing freebies.

Arny
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Arny

No they will use it for another excuse to infringe on our rights. They have been getting away with it for how long now ?

Bill
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Bill

Yeah, it is!! What is he doing? Not a damn thing! In fact he is right in there with the siege layers. I was watching the SOTU speech and really wanted to continue but after he said that about the 2a, and ONLY that, I kept sitting there stewing. I just couldn’t watch anymore.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Bill, The Donald wants to do the right thing for the American people, but he does not know shit about Rights or the Constitution. It is up to us to politely but firmly learn him up. Whitehouse.gov/contact.

Will
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Will

@Bill,it’s OK! There’s five or six socialists you can choose from! Maybe you can handle watching them!

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, Oh, my stomach! I could just throw up.

Knute
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Knute
USA
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USA

Knute, Both parties are the same, a death cult of pedo Freemason Owl Worshipers who we pay to exterminate us.

Apocalyptica.

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USA
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USA

USA
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USA

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@USA…Call me paranoid but , I gotta wonder if this coronavirus may have been some lab work (say germ warfare ) that escaped the lab . After all lead paint on children’s toys . possible cancer causing ingredients in dog food . I lost a pure bred Brittney one of my breeding females , the vet told me there was suspect ingredients in dog food or chew treats from china . There was something else which eludes me right now . As I have mentioned before there are three major ways I would pursue if I were to attack this… Read more »

USA
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USA

Ov, Is already proven by documents it is a Bio-Weapon created by Bill & Melinda Gates and intentionally released from a Chinese Government Bio-Weapons facility/lab of the highest classification. Released intentionally as we have been discussing for years to bring in medical martial law for full blown implementation of world governance. Not going to call you paranoid, this is factual info and you can tune into Mike Adams over on infowars to see the documents and hear Mike Adams tell about it, he is a lab tech who runs many labs in Texas and has been warning us for many… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@USA…Well there you go . I only have standard broadcast out here . ( The old antenna ) Have to check out live stream . Got tired of satellite crap and interference . That would explain the dem’s stand on abortion .

USA
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USA

Ov, Check the video on the right side, here’s the link. Fact finding documents have been (linked) posted in articles so watch there for them.

https://www.infowars.com/

Alex Jones is at the height of his career these days because all the stuff he has been saying for 25 years is coming true regardless of anything people say about him. I haven’t watched him for years until this pandemic broke out. It’s a good place to find Mike Adams on video.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@USA I used to watch him some they took him off and moved him to a channel I don get . Can’t say I agreed with everything he put out

USA
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USA

Ov, Like any content you gotta pick and choose, aggregate the news to get where you’re going. I disregard (90+%) most of all of it across all channels because who really gives a shit anymore what others have to say. At some point we gotta save ourselves from the insanity.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@USA…Cruise ships would be one hell of a distribution system .

USA
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USA

Like an incubator then when the ship docks a delivery system. When the gov says they have it under control we should be concerned just like when they tell all the other lies. I interpret by auto pilot that everything the gov says is actually the exact opposite of what they say due to no Kool-Aid consumption here.

Knute
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Knute
Hankus
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Hankus

After even this too-brief mention of the 2A, that Guttenberg idiot starts yelling some gibberish and promptly gets the stinkeye from Pelosi. Then he was tossed out on his ear lol.

Now he’s some kind of libtard hero on Twitter. He apologized for being a drama queen, and yet has the excuse that he just had to protest the “lies”.

WTF “lies” was he hearing in his alleged mind?

I wonder how much Bloomberg is paying him and his little sidekick Hogg.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Hank…Were you aware peeloosley invited him and he is from the same sand box as pigg boy ?

Oldvet
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Oldvet

His daughter was killed at Marjory Stoneman

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Hankus, Drama queen? So he admits to being a queen?

Buster
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Buster

Gun-grabbers are gonna do what gun-grabbers do…and they’ll do it as long as they have the cops there to provide protection.

When the bullets start flying, the shooting will be between Patriots and a short-sighted and apathetic Law Enforcement – one that is Hell-bent on receiving their weekly paycheck.

It’s time we call on Law Enforcement to take a stand and just say NO.

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Buster, Regarding LEOs, it is good to have someone on the inside to tell us what is going on. Some LEOs should remain covert, just in case the SHTF.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

Make sure you watch the video of bernie’s radicals found in the post on this same page

USA
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USA

Ov, Those radicals can be counted here by the thousands and nothing Trump does will change this and, we even have sickos with life size decals of the Queens head/face stuck on the rear passenger window of their cars as if they are Driving Miss Daisy around.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@USA..And yet there are so many with their head stuck in the sand , or up somewhere else , that have no idea what lurks below the surface, who think what bernie is selling sounds so good . The naked hate that is displayed by “the squad” , shitf, peesloosey, nadler and shoemur makes me fear something like JFK . I hope the secret service is on their toes. After all they were unprepared and very lucky with the attack on the republican softball team .

USA
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USA

Ov, They still think the UN is a humanitarian organization here and were stupid long before the legalization of weed so the weed can’t be blamed for this thinking. Looool.

Tionico
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Tionico

The landsape has changed signficantly since the attack on the ball team. It was not very evident openly that the Deep CessPool were fool enough to take action. Yes, our guys did well under pressure… I do wish they’d taken a telling shot at the perp so he’d not be “with us” any more to spew his bile. as to the JFK plot.. that went VERY deep, is still unwrapping, slowly. The evidence and reports I’ve seen so far are VERY scary. Again, tnings are different now compared to 1962. JFK’s grevious sins were in the main unknown at the… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@T…Agreed some of my military involved cryptography . I don’t have the depth of knowledge you seem to have . (need to know) But I have had a brush with some of which you speak . That was on going during my enlistment . May be the cause of my “paranoia”.

UncleT
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UncleT

I wish I could believe Trump, but he’s lied before, why wouldn’t he do it again? Let us have another mass shooting in a Gun Free Zone and see how he reacts when he has Melania and Ivanka, both progressives, down his throat to demand to pass more gun control laws. And, Why is Ohio being ignored for all the Gun Control Laws being proposed in Ohio. Is it because the GOP is doing it? They want to include ALCOHOL to a disqualifier in your own home for gun confiscation. They are even more bat shit crazy than Democrats. Ohio… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@UT, When you say that Trump has lied before, what instance do you have in mind.

UncleT
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Are you serious? Let’s see, Trump’s ATF banned Bump stocks, AA-12 shotgun. Trump supports Universal Background Checks, raising the age to 21 for ALL gun sales, Supports Red Flag laws, wants to stop 3-D printing for homemade Firearms and supports the TAPS Act. “Take the Guns First, Due Process later, due process takes too long.” DJT People are saying he’s backing off of that. Really? Can you show me where that is exactly. Ever gun grabbing Dem says they “support the 2A”. But really don’t. Trump is doing the same crap. Don’t be so naive and ignore these facts. In… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@UT, those are unconsidered comments, not lies. So, state the lie.

The bump stock ban in not a lie either. But it is a clever gambit.

UncleT
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UncleT

Damn man, open your eyes and don’t be a Trump Zombie.

He said the words himself.

Bumpstock ban is not a lie? ‍♂️

The AA-12 is gun he banned. That’s a gun and a lie I noticed you ignored that…Are you saying you can tolerate some 2A infringements as long as its Trump?

The lie is HE DOESN’T SUPPORT THE 2A. Only when it is a convenience… like most if not all politicians… WTF up!

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@UT, You write, “The lie is HE DOESN’T SUPPORT THE 2A.” I think that you mean, the lie is that Trump said he will support the Second Amendment and then he acts not in support of the Second Amendment.
DJT is not intentionally deceiving people. He is ignorant. He has studied business, economics, finance, and building his entire life, but spent not one hour studying what a Right is or what the Second Amendment means. It is up to us to educate him.

USA
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USA

UncleT & WB, DJT is a trapper. He doesn’t intentionally deceive people except when he’s laying traps for stupid people to fall into. He’s the kinda guy that if he needs a building cleared out he might use a torch to get it done quickly, the kinda guy who would tell UncleT to go play in the highway. Only those who either fail to, or refuse to, see what is actually going on in reality are against Trump and we have a few of both here although none of this is any reason to lower the flames of our fire.… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@USA, Raise a glass to nutty patriots! And yes lets Restore the Republic.

Oldman
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@USA I agree. At this point in time DJT is setting up the gun grabbers just like he did the never trumpers. After his re-election, i am hoping he does away with the ATF and all the other ridiculous nonsense that’s been going on. To do it now would cause a glitch in his plans. We, as patriots need to hang with him and continue his education. I have been saying for the last 2 years that the pres is either a true patriot that loves his country OR the false prophet in the Book of Revelations. Only time will… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@WB…Think UT is a troll he sounds a lot like the old TS

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Wild Bill I think Uncle T misunderstood your questioning originally. His first statement was worded correctly, and I think he thought you were disagreeing with his first sentence. Also, you should have been clear in saying that Trump did not lie when he said he pushed for the Bump Stock ban. That is a point both of you share. You were saying that Trump did say that, but where uncleT was coming from was that his act of calling for the ban was breaking his campaign promise of not infringing the 2nd, and his promise was a lie because of… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

Rev, Yep, the written word is an imperfect medium.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@UT…Don’t forget that w latrine told DJT that it was the right thing to do !!!

USA
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USA

WB, So clever that we can count the easily fooled up and down this page. 🙂

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@USA, yes! Did you catch any fish?

USA
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USA

WB, Just a few, less than normal but it was really cold, below -15 much of the time due to wind. It was really much to do about surviving. Below -15 the line freezes up so it can’t be reeled. I’m almost thawed out, going to go back in a few days for more.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@USA…I tried that once , hole kept freezing up faster than I could clear it .

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

UncleT
Yes, and I live there unfortunately. Mike DeWine collapsed like limp lettuce after he took office, as predicted.

The Republican party is working very hard to bring on the boogaloo(Even though I dislike that meme, it fits here).

Jim
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Jim

I STILL ASK; whatcha gon do when they come for you? Kuz, they be here already bro!

Jonesy
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Jonesy

Well, what are you going to do? Continue to run and hide?

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Jonesy, That is enough. Knock it off. We all better be thinking about what we are going to do long before “they” come for us. Join groups that litigate. Send donations. Write, polite but firm, to our employees in government. Vote, get others to vote, support the “not corrupted yet” primary candidates. Make this a hobby so that it is not a burden. If it ever came to them coming for us. “They” will start in the cities. Flee the cities. Put up fake numbers on your house. Find someone in the country that will store your firearms. If they… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@WB…One of the things we do (since there is greater distance between homes ) is called Neighborhood Watch . Have neighbors phone numbers on fast dial . If you see a concentration of vehicles get on the phone conference call . Remember a cell phone laying near can be recording .

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@OV, Excellent points!

Oldvet
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Oldvet

WB…A phone open can be recording at a remote location . Just in case of confiscation for evidence at the epicenter .

Graham
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Graham

Fake numbers won’t help. 2010 census got a GPS location of every single home. Now why would “they” possibly need that?
https://www.census.gov/about/policies/privacy/data_stewardship/gps_coordinates.html

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Graham, Fake house numbers would not be a long term solution, but a dodge like that might cause a delay long enough to take advantage of. Also the GPS locater thing would be more difficult to show the judge that the warrant team got the correct house than a picture of a house with the correct house numbers.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Jonsey its called evade and counter attack .

USA
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USA

The local septic system pumping company has pumping trucks with tanks for the raw sewage to be carried in and on the back of the tank it says, “Filled With The Promises Of Politicians”, truer words have never been spoken.

Modifying existing illegal laws and begging for more laws to do what 2A clearly states it already does is futile tyranny based Kool-Aid soup. Repeal illegal laws not modify them. Government is not our master.

Arny
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Arny

Reciprocity ? This has NO bearing on CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY. Sorry I don’t need the state approval. That is not what the 2A is about. Still leaves state with control over who has the RIGHT to carry. Not how 2A was framed.

Tionico
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Tionico

Yes it does. Some states will “recognise” the Mother May I Card from any otther state. That means, in those states, if a guy does not HAVE a Mother May I Card from his constCarry home state, he can’t carry in the “some states” category. “Reciprocity” means State A MUST recognise the “authority” to GRANT permission of other states. In states where no “permission” is set as a precondition to go about armed, that person lacks the “permission: of the subject state. Reciprocity on its face is a scam, because it is preconditioined upon the false premise that state “permissioin”… Read more »

Arny
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Arny

I thought that’s what I was saying ? Only in a hell of a shorter version. Time is $. LOL

Finnky
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@Arny – How about some common sense gun laws? May I suggest (1) every American of sound mind must attend firearms training (minimum standards TBD – but to include annual refresher). (2) Every adult must own and keep in good working order (well regulated) at a minimum one pistol and one rifle or shotgun – minimum equipment standards TBD – to includes some reasonable number of magazines and amount of ammo. (3) Body armor is up to the individual. Since we are nation of personal choice I will suggest some compromises: (1) government shall provide some level of financial assistance… Read more »

Will
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Will

@Finnky,compromise this! Move your sorry ass back to Kalifornia,and get the hell out of TEXAS!

Finnky
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@Will – Did you read the proposed compromises? Rather than proposing giving up anything – my proposed compromise is removal of NFA, GCA, FOPA and all state & local regulation. How & why does that disturb you?

Arny
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Arny

No No No. Sorry there are no compromises on my rights. That’s what started this shit. WTF is wrong with you ? “Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” Benjamin Franklin

USA
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USA

Finnky, How about this compromise, “The rights of no American shall ever for any reason be called into question and/or infringed upon and any attempt to do so is a hanging offense”?

Finnky
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@USA – That’s a compromise I could support. However, I think long term we need to insure the younger generation is taught use of and respect for firearms. Doing so requires they be exposed to firearms – I would prefer that be done in a safe and ‘controlled’ manner. It’s great if parents will teach their children, but for majority of gun grabbers I doubt that is a possibility. A bunch of ignorant gun grabbers accidentally shooting their kids would be counter productive. My intent was to take a page from anti’s playbook. Take everything and call it a compromise.

Finnky
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@Tionico – If only military personnel were allowed to be armed on military bases – the Saudi who shot up a base recently, might still be shooting. His rampage killing was stopped by nonmilitary personnel (aka sheriff’s deputies). Such a rule should then require military personnel to be armed – or at least enough of them to protect themselves. If a base cannot defend itself from a lone attacker – how the heck would they defend themselves from a concerted mass attack?

Oldvet
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Oldvet

How about …Bring back the draft ! Then everyone becomes a member of the reserves and are required to train two weeks in the summer wither or not they served a four year hitch . This would / could / should include females . Is it Sweden or Norway that does something of this nature ?

Finnky
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Finnky

@OV – Sounds suspiciously like the compromise I proposed above. Careful or you’ll get attacked as a sellout.

JFCrosby
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JFCrosby

For those who hate the Constitution, the Second Amendment is a convenient target. It’s all about how much the Democrats are willing to lie to the people.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@JF…That’s because the 2A protects the rest .

nrringlee
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Constitutional law and advocacy by smorgasboard or multiple choice approach is a loser. Our Declaration is the greatest temporal statement of human rights in human history. Our Constitution is the greatest implementation of human rights in history. Why pick and choose? The Progressives and New Left Progressives have found the best way to attack our comprehensive statement of rights is the pick and choose method. Why engage in their tactics. Defend the whole as a whole. The Second Amendment is simply an insurance policy against tyranny. It underwrites all other rights. None stand alone. Defend them as a whole in… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@ring, Courts always try to “narrow the issues”.

Matt in Oklahoma
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Yeah it’s under siege alright. Took away bumpstocks, want to remove silencers and support red flag laws. Friends like this who needs enemies

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Matt, It gives a whole new meaning to “smoke em, if you got em”! I think that an awful lot of people are primed to vote the bastards out. Only we can drain the legislative part of the swamp.

Bowserb46
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Yes, they may be primed to vote the bastards out, but THEY HAVE TO VOTE and stop assuming that the rest of us have enough votes. Get off your dead asses and get to the polls. Every place has early voting, so complaining about long lines doesn’t stand up. And besides, those long lines are probably Democrats…and they’re voting.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Bowser…I get my ballot by mail , its paper , its always early , I don’t stand in any lines . Not hard to do , go to your county court house and sign up for it . Did I miss anyones excuse ?

Finnky
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@Bowserb46 – Where I live, at primary voting there are separate lines depending upon which parties primary you are voting in. My observation to date has been zero line for democrats and line out the door for republicans.
I will be examining down ticket to see whether I have strong preferences amongst republican candidates – but anticipate voting in democrat primary to oppose bloomberg.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Finnky…Those lines could be dem’s doing the same.

Finnky
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Finnky

@OV – Could be… However I checked election results after trumps election. Trump got 60% of the vote and every other republican won 70/30. Don’t think the lines were just demos voting in repub primary. My impression is that people tend to grow conservative with age – demos are dominated by young idealists – who often only vote in general election and view presidential contest as the entire election. I’d say my town is fairly safe, but figures above were at county level – and area has been growing at a horrific pace. Traffic has roughly doubled. Many immigrants, some… Read more »

TheRevelator
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@Wild Bill
If only they would drain the swamp. The cowards who place party over principle are doing everything they can to stymie the attempts though.

Some of us are done voting for the crap they insist the republican party needs, so they throw temper tantrums when we stay home. (And it isn’t because the lines are long, its because the candidates they help force on us are the same types of slimeballs we are trying to drain away.)

Arizona
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Arizona

GCA, NFA a d Hughes amendment all need to go. As do FOID cards, carry permits, and the like.

Finnky
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Finnky

@DeanW – Following your link for HPA, from there link to Chapter 44 – brought me to a page showing a presidential memorandum of 1/4/2016, which I will paste below. If I’m not mistaken, this memo is the same as EO. Do you know whether Trump rescinded this? If not, do you advise pushing him to rescind this along with the items you described above? We all know that pushing “Smart” guns presents opportunities for tracking and control of effected firearms. ————————————————————- Promoting Smart Gun Technology Memorandum of President of the United States, Jan. 4, 2016, 81 F.R. 719, which… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Finnky, you should mention it to Donald. Maybe he is not aware!

tetejaun
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tetejaun

We, the People, are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln, 1859. There was a time in the United States when men stood as men. Now, they kneel as sheep. In our REPUBLIC, the People are the ultimate power and authority vested with the power to remove anti-American activists and anti-american governments by force of arms if necessary. The communists supporting Sanders, a hard-line 1960 soviet-type communist, have been on TV saying killing those that will not support Sanders and kneel to… Read more »

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@tetejaun And there you are still kneeling. I notice you forgot to include the Anti-Federalist papers in your list, but I do understand why, and why you have failed in constitutional arguments before. Got news for you buddy. Nobody here with any common sense is going to listen to an instigator like you. Doesn’t matter if you try to say all the right things, we already know who and what you are. That makes you just like Harold Hutchison. You have in the past tried to urge for violent action that you yourself were unwilling to take, calling others who… Read more »

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

If you don’t vote because you don’t like the Republican candidate (and btw, it’s RINO, not RHINO), then you have given the Democrat candidate an additional one vote advantage. Fixing the GOP needs to happen, but not voting because it’s not fixed yet is the lamest of excuses and the kind that turned Virginia blue, followed by thousands complaining that the Democrats did what they said they would do. Reminds me of Fred Schwartz 1961 book, “You Can Trust the Communists…to Do Exactly as They Say”

Oldvet
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Oldvet

That’s also what primaries are for to weed out the crap.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Bowserb46 I get the acronym, and do understand the depiction is of a Rhino when drawn to compare it to an Elephant. But perhaps that little piece of information was lost on you and you are just grasping at anything possible to come after me with. And for the record, I haven’t been talking about what the Leftist Socialists are going to do. I’ve been telling people what the republican candidates are going to do, and my record is pretty damn good! 🙂 When I said Trump was not a second amendment guy and that he would violate it after… Read more »

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

I love seeing the swamp creatures roll in all upset because they cant order people how to exercise their rights. 🙂 All they can do is downvote because they cant argue against the simple fact that they have been saying “We just have to vote for the same thing again this election because its the worst time to try and fix the party ever!” They’ve been saying it for 30 years straight, and they’re too busy bleating too grow a set and fix it. (For the record, there are two types of swamp creatures. First, the predators. They run the… Read more »

Will
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Will

Trump acquitted on both articles of impeachment!!! Scumbag traitor Romney only RINO to vote for conviction!

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Will
Romney was a douchebag we already knew was never going to vote based on the truth.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Will…He’s showing his democrat traits , he also is still butt hurt because he could not get elected to POTUS . (has not excepted 2016 election either)

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Outside of providence, the 2A is the last line of defense against the tyranny of socialism, communism and terrorism. None of those evils can take hold while the citizenry is armed because of “extreme negotiations” in putting a stop to any of those evils. This is the actual reasoning behind gun control, it has nothing to do with public safety, it has everything to do with public control. This is clearly proven throughout history. You might remember the 2A mentions us, the free American citizenry, as militia. It is not an accident our founding fathers put the 2A into law.… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

Exactly why states are changing their laws to STOP ANY infringements by ANY 2A vultures.Texan here, my county is one of the top 10 largest in Texas, it passed a 2A Protection Amendment at ALL levels to NEVER participate or prosecute anyone ignoring Federal or state laws that are AGAINST the tenets of the 2A.
Meaning they will not enforce them no matter what’s passed.
NOT OATH BREAKING PRICKS HERE.

Stag
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Stag

They’re still breaking their oath. They enforce all of the current arms laws. Unless you can walk down the street with a suppressed, unregistered machinegun without being harassed then it’s not a sanctuary and don’t count on them protecting you from the state or federal thugs, either.

Will
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Will

Trump acquitted on first article of impeachment!

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

And article two just went down as well.

Doszap
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Doszap

Wait 30 days or less the Dems will come after him again, they already have subpoenaed Bolton.Personally I am loving this, the Dems are MURDERING themselves.Barring a major FUBAR by Trump or a total collapse of the econ,the Dems have NO chance of keeping the House,or gaining Senate seats,and surely have NO ONE capable of beating Trump.

NOW HE just has to READ the Constitution.He pisses me off when he calls it YOUR 2A RIGHTS.
Excuse me POTUS?,isn’t the 2nd ALSO YOUR right?. You are American correct?.

USA
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USA

Doszap, and “gun people”

Tionico
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Tionico

those were not true “articles of impeachment” but rather “feel good” word salads to allow the twiste Dems to vent a little of their angst at having LOST to the impossible candidate.. one who has NO prior political history or experience, is decidedly UNconnected to the “Deep State” operatives who THINK they run this place, and NO dependence upon anyone else’s money to wage his campaign. Funny laugh if yuo want, but he is the FIRST President to own his own equal to Airforce one……. and to have a network in place to be able to take it anywhere HE… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Tio, You are quite correct about the so called articles of impeachment. The dems failed to read the directions and failed to follow the correct procedure.

USA
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USA
USA
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USA

Susan Holmes gets arrested for lying on Red Flag complaint, felony charges and door smashed in, arrested by force as a fugitive of justice. Red Flag Boomerang!

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

This is the woman who said the cops murdered her son so she had the cop red flagged. Solid proof of the ease the red flag laws are to abuse. At least, she is being held accountable. I saw the body cam video, I know she lied. If I remember correctly she claimed the cop in question had fathered a child with her also. Wow. I wonder if any or all of the politicians who deny or delay a citizen’s right to keep and bear arms can be held accountable.

Arm up, carry on

Finnky
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@USA – Unfortunately the extreme prejudice shown by the cops is purely because she red flagged a cop. Highly doubt they will ever act the same in response to false RFL directed at us mere mortals. This should be the response to ALL false accusations.

Doszap
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Doszap

No,it should be two officers and NO NEED to act like you’re in IRAQ!.
This SWAT shit has to stop.

USA
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USA

“This should be the response to ALL false accusations.” to include a lawsuit for defamation of character for millions of dollars. Precedence is being set for the “mere mortals” to get rich instantly thus turning Red Flag into The Lotto and then there are the Federal laws for deprivation and conspiracy for the trifecta affect. Fake un-constitutional papers served by LEO’s to facilitate theft, harassment, violation of rights etc I can easily stick many criminal charges to including trespassing. Because a tyrant wants ignorant sheep to think theft is legal does not make it so.

Oldman
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@USA So whom is to be sued for millions? If you are talking about LEOS and their employers I would agree. If not, then what would be the sense? Anyone with money would be too smart to make a red flag accusation. Even not so smart Bloomie wouldn’t. My wife worked in the legal field for forty years and has always said if you cannot collect the judge or jury’s monetary award, what is the sense? We don’t have, as yet, a debtors prison.

Wild Bill
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@Old, the Master Servant Rule. Go for the deep pockets. If a city uses its police force as a private army, then that city deserves to pay the equivalent of the PD’s annual budget for ten years, and the city won’t have a PD.

Heed the Call-up
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Heed the Call-up

She’s upset that the police are serving her a warrant for her arrest because she admitted that she falsely accused the officer in an ERPO submission? What does she believe would happen to an ordinary citizen that had an ERPO issued against him/her? We know what would happen, the black man in Baltimore was summarily executed at 5am in his home by two officers with their butt cheeks clenched so tight their brains couldn’t function. She is so full of shit, and the police didn’t even harm her, and she was pitifully yelling “you’re breaking my arm”?, which they were… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

Happening all over the country.

hoss
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hoss

Let me preface my remark with, I am not a bleeding heart “Commie Rat Bastard” Dem.
With that being said, I tell you our borders are not secure. The reason I say this is because if people are still entering illegally, then it isn’t secure.

USA
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USA

Just returning from ice fishing on the Continental Divide where I missed the State of The Union Address due to being out of reception with frozen battery and I agree that never have we had such an opportunity to demand action on behalf of 2A BEFORE WE VOTE!!!!! And, again I agree that national reciprocity be passed but based upon 2A that the right to bear arms is already clearly defined within the plain English text of 2A as PROTECTED by such therefore no permission slips required. Currently permission slips are required in my state but not in the counties… Read more »

Wild Bill
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@USA, I think that you are correct about the timing. I sent him the following: Hon. Donald J. Trump, You could still lose the election absent the support of gun owners. Eliminating the corrupt BATFE would ensure our support, and your re-election. The BATFE was not created by Congress, so you would not need Congressional approval. The BATFE was created by a memo from Sec. Treasuary: On June 6, 1972 Acting Secretary of the Treasury, Charles E. Walker signed Treasury Order Number 120-01 which establishes the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. Walker did this with the stroke of his… Read more »

Will
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Will

ABOLISH THE CORRUPT CRIMINAL ATF!

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Will, Bureaucrats
Always
Taking
Firearms
E (Can someone help me out with the E?)

Will
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Will

@WB,let me think on that!

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@WB…Enthusiastically !

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@OV, That is it! You got it! Well done!

USA
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USA

WB, He received mail from us both today, thanks.

Deplorable Bill
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Deplorable Bill

Hey W.B. What about holding accountable for all the evil they do? Ruby Ridge, specifically the coercion they used to talk someone into cutting off a shotgun barrel 1/4″ too short. Killing their dog who had found a marshal sniper hiding. Killing the kid who killed the marshal who killed his dog. Shooting Randy W. when he went out to view his dead son. Wounding his friend. Murdering his wife as she tried to go back into the house holding an illegal, weapon of mass destruction– their baby. This was all over an illegal $200 fee that was used as… Read more »

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@DB, I hate questions that begin with what about because what about is vague and therefore hard to deal with. As to forgiveness, I think that a murder was committed, and there is no statute of limitations on murder. I believe the jurisdiction is Idaho.

Finnky
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Finnky

@USA & @WB – Whole heartedly agree. Trump can trumpet his support for 2nd all he wants – but Acts speak louder than empty promises. Hearing trump speak, he is true to his roots as a sales person – everything is the best ever and he is the strongest 2A supporter ever. However proof is in the pudding. Government does not make the economy (no matter how much politicians claim credit), though they can break it. While trump has done his best to get government out of the way of the economy, he has not put his money where his… Read more »

RoyD
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RoyD

And yet I got all kinds of hate here for saying that I and my wife will not be voting for him because of what he has allowed the BATFE to do, ie the “bumpstock ban”. The thing is that “hate” says much more about those people than it said about my stance. I have sent him that message twice via the Whitehouse contact system. It is what it is.

TheRevelator
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@RoyD
Indeed. I’ve been getting hate slung at me since late 2015 over Trump because I told people the truth they didn’t want to hear about him back then.

The funny thing is, that hate really doesn’t stop or impede the truth so it just bounces off of me like a nerf dart. Intellectually speaking, anyone who will attack someone for telling the truth when evidence shows that it is in fact truth is the equivalent mentally of firing foam ammunition as we level our main guns on them.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@RoyD…like I said earlier,. Watch the video under the bernie heading , then tell me you would vote for him over Trump .

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Heed the Call-up

Oldvet, I don’t see where he stated that in his post, voting Socialist. He only stated, not Trump. I never imagined Trump getting the nomination. He is a blowhard, and one of the least likable people on the planet. Sadly, as it always is, we get to choose between the lesser of two evils; though in 2016, it was him, or Satan’s spawn that made look like a prince, though he probably would prefer the title emperor. At minimum, the impeachment debacle will handily give him 4 more years. Hopefully any Democrats up for re-election will deservedly get canned. But… Read more »

Oldvet
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Oldvet

@Heed…only two parties will be competing viably for POTUS , and of course he would have to win the nomination .

Oldvet
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Oldvet

bernie seems to be scaring the hell out of some demo’s right now hiLAIRy has been attacking him at every chance lately . It seems to be more than being butt hurt because she thinks he cost her the 2016 .

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Heed the Call-up Unfortunately that is where we are at now. The crybabies hate that we make up our own minds instead of following along like stupid sheep when ordered. They feel it is a threat to their own vote, even though we are not stopping them from exercising their rights as they see fit, in part because they bow their heads and fear trying to take back the Republican party. The fact that we wont follow their orders just because they tell us to infuriates them. The only thing they have left is to try and accuse us of… Read more »

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

So for the sake of a bumpstock, you’ll assist a Communist at getting into the WhiteHouse, more Democrats get into the House and possibly get a majority in the Senate. Please explain how that’s better than Trump’s re election.

USA
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USA

Bowser, Less traffic on the roads, shorter lines……..

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@Bowserb46
And for the sake of putting a spineless mouthpiece into public offices, you are willing to overlook infringements against the constitution just because said idiot has an R in front of his name because people like you won’t hold traitors responsible.

Please explain why you think it is better to have a politician infringing our Rights which are off limits from government meddling just because they are a Republican. (Here’s a hint, it’s still an infringement one way or the other and only an idiot would try to claim its somehow better).

Wild Bill
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Wild Bill

@Rev, I look at it as reviewing my employee’s work. I would not be a good boss if I did not review my government employee’s work.
If we are the boss of government, then we must give them their annual review … like voting against them or for them.

tetejaun
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tetejaun

But, ALL ‘gun control laws’ are anti-constitutional. They work because Americans kneel to the tyrant and obey them. Most all Americans believe that all city, state and federal governments are our masters.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@tetejaun
So what you are saying is that you are busy down there kneeling. How nice.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

Ahh, another coward who couldn’t actually respond. 🙂 Love seeing that! Since they were too afraid to respond, I’ll fill in a little history on Tetejaun. He has been attacking people since summer of 2019 accusing them of kissing the feet of tyrants for “Not taking action” that tetejaun himself deems fit. The funny part, ol’ tetejaun sits there not taking action. Ol’ Tetejaun is waiting for other people to go out in front of him and take action so he can follow along behind. He has engaged in lies, spreading propaganda, only to be called on those lies by… Read more »

Doszap
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Doszap

Personally I think ALL the GCA Acts MUST be repealed.NONE are Constitutional.ZERO.

USA
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USA

Doszap, I heard the Rinopublicans sent a repeal for Roe v Wade to USSC so if it’s true then this shows how they can repeal “gun control” just as easily and if other Americans demanded this instead of accepting “promises” while running off at the mouths taking a hatchet to their fellow patriots then perhaps progress could be made but it’s beginning to look like patriots are going to follow the lefts lead and begin self destructing on each other.

TheRevelator
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TheRevelator

@USA That’s because it isn’t all patriots on the Right. There are Progressives in the republican party the same as the left. They want the same type of power and control over others that the socialists in the Democrat party want. These people are not patriots. In their mindset it is to defend the party and maintain power one way or another. I see a lot of people talking about cutting off noses, but that is what the Republican party does (as they did to the tea party movement). Irony is lost on them. True patriots stick to the Constitution… Read more »

USA
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USA

Rev, Ive never made claim to the Republicans being all patriots. The mere fact that Gun Control exists right now today shows their level of patriotism. It’s really just that simple a case to make. They will be happy to send Americans to the FEMA camps while acting as if nothing is going on. Mass murders.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

As long as only 50% vote in a presidential election, and 40% voted in Virginia state elections, and 28% in AOC’s district, that is not going to change, is it?

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

So if the action we want is not taken by November 3, you will not vote? Exactly who will be punished by that inaction? Oh yes, now I remember. Us. You will chose to punish conservatives, taxpayers, and gun owners by helping a socialist democrat get into the whitehouse, as well as more get into the house and possibly get a majority in the senate. Boy that will surely teach Trump and the GOP a lesson–one that WE get to suffer for, possibly for the rest of our lives and our childrens’ lives. If you don’t vote, you are simply… Read more »

Will
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Will

TRUMP/PENCE 2020!

Terry
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Terry

A vote not cast for Trump is a vote for Pelosi’s’ minions. They will tear up the Constitution as surely as she tore up Trumps’ speech! Virginia is in such turmoil now because people neglected their duty. ‘MiniMike’ can buy votes, however, we can still outnumber the bastards if only pro-gun people will get off their dead asses. I was and still am pissed about the bump ban, but, I won’t cut off my nose to spite my face.

Doszap
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Doszap

Let them tear it up,then face the Red States Armies.

Bowserb46
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Bowserb46

Thank you, Terry. From what I’m reading from some people here, there are going to be a lot of nose-less people answering their doors when Bernie’s or Bloomberg’s confiscators come for their guns.

Oldvet
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Oldvet

ETAL…Has anyone besides me noticed that hiLIARy has been going after bernie lately ? Makes me wonder if she knows something we don’t .