Aloha to Freedom: Hawaii Lawmakers Push Severe Ammo Restrictions

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Aloha to Freedom: Hawaii Lawmakers Push Severe Ammo Restrictions

Fairfax, VA – -(Ammoland.com)- In the last year, gun owners across the U.S. have watched in horror as California has rolled out its byzantine and unworkable ammunition restrictions. Since July 1, 2019, gun owners in the Golden State have been required to undergo a background check each time they purchase ammunition. The program has been a disaster. In December, the Sacramento Bee reported that tens of thousands of law-abiding Californians have been improperly denied ammunition purchases under the program, while only 101 were prohibited persons who were rejected. According to the report, “[b]etween July 1 and November, nearly one in every five ammunition purchases was rejected by the California Department of Justice.”

Not to be outdone, California’s neighbor to the left is seeking to outdo the Golden State tyrants with an even more intrusive scheme to harass law-abiding gun owners and ammunition buyers.

In late January, Hawaii lawmakers introduced HB 2736.

This legislation would mandate that an ammunition buyer proves to an ammunition seller that they own a registered firearm in the caliber they are seeking to purchase each and every time they buy ammunition. A firearm owner would have to show their firearms registration along with another form of government-issued photographic ID in order to complete the purchase.

Gun owners would not be permitted to purchase ammunition in calibers that they do not own a registered firearm in.

That means that a gun owner couldn’t pick up ammunition for himself and his friend who shoots a different caliber on the way to a hunting trip or a range. A son or daughter couldn’t pick up ammunition on the way to a gun-owning parent’s home in anticipation of some recreation shooting.

The legislation would permit one “alternate person” to buy ammunition for a registered firearm. However, the owner of the firearm must designate this person as an “alternate person” with the government on the firearm registration form. The “alternate person” must undergo a background check and be fingerprinted. This “alternate person” would then be issued a permit to purchase ammunition for that firearm.

Further, as gun owners are well aware, many firearms can use multiple calibers of ammunition. For instance, a .357-caliber revolver can typically be used with .38 Special. Other revolvers can chamber .45 Long Colt and .410 shotshells. Many AR-15 pattern rifles can use both .223 Remington and 5.56x45mm NATO. Firearms may have different barrels that can chamber different calibers, as is the case with separate upper receivers for an AR-15 or separate barrel sets for an over/under shotgun.

In order to purchase different calibers based on a single firearm registration, there is another hoop Aloha State gun owners would have to jump through. The legislation states,

A registered owner of a firearm may be issued a permit to purchase ammunition of a caliber that is not the caliber listed on the registered firearm by demonstrating to the police department in the registering county that the firearm is capable of firing a caliber of ammunition that is not the caliber listed on the registration of the firearm.  This permit shall designate which caliber of ammunition the firearm is capable of firing.  The registered owner of the firearm or their alternate person designated under subsection (f) may purchase ammunition, pursuant to section 134-   , that is the caliber designated under this subsection. A permit to purchase ammunition of a caliber that is not the caliber listed on the registration of the registered firearm under this subsection shall not last longer than three years.

Mainland gun owners might be tempted to dismiss the woes gun owners face in America’s Pacific outpost. However, gun rights supporters would do well to follow the developments in Hawaii. With the favorable political climes of the Aloha State, anti-gun activists are revealing their gun control plans for the entire U.S.


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Mark 2nd
Mark 2nd
7 months ago

Hell, just look at their state flag. That cross between a gay pride and British flag tells you why they’re both hoplophobes and communists. We should turn that “state” into a full military complex and nuclear missile base and ship all the DemonRATS to the Asian or Middle Eastern country of their choice.

Core
Core
7 months ago

British Invasion 2020!

gcm
gcm
7 months ago

Vote 2020, Anyone but a Democrat,
I’m a Voter, and I approve this message

DJT-MP-2020

Big George
Big George
7 months ago

As a soon-to-be EX-Commiefornian (moving to AZ)!, my wife and I use to…stress USE TO visit Maui, for our vacation. NEVER AGAIN! It is amazing though that a State so entrenched by our Military, mostly conservative, became so dominated by dumbocraptic liberaturds! TRUMP~PENCE 2020!

Bill
Bill
7 months ago

So, we sit and observe further tyrannical incursion on our rights. Great dinner theater, once again, but at what point can and will anything be done to reverse this?! Just saying to keep an eye on the disaster that continually advances doesn’t really seem to be quite enough.

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago
Reply to  Bill

– HI is under 9th circuit court. Trump has already dramatically altered judicious mix in that court. Wonderful to see that court change from worst in the country to middle-of-the-road. As that court gets better, perhaps court challenges to HI over-reach will meet more success.

StLPro2A
StLPro2A
7 months ago

“…..shall not be infringed.” Should be ” Nuff Said”. Our Founding Fathers would already have been finished shooting a second time. They are spinning in their graves for how we have relinquished what they gave us.

Jim
Jim
7 months ago

VOTER ANALYSIS: The majority of Hawaiians are Japanese–influenced by their generations in disarmed Japan–very similar to the many Jewish folks in power in states like New Your, New Jersey, Mass, etc. who are influenced though generations by their ancestors in Europe. How has all that worked out?

Tionico
Tionico
7 months ago
Reply to  Jim

we KNOW how that worked out for the Sons of David in Europe a half century and more ago. The cattle cars came round to collect them. But by then it was too late. They no longer even had any means of saying ‘Thanks all the same, but I prefer to walk”. Had they refused to allow themselves to be disarmed, they would have been saying HELL NO WE WON”T GO, as they did at the Warsaw ghetto when the nazi wretched came with their train tickets. The poiltical climate in Hawaii is such I will not even visit there.… Read more »

Jim
Jim
7 months ago
Reply to  Tionico

Yippers! The U.S. 1968 Gun Control act is based directly on the Nazi 1938 Gun Control Act. which was carried from Germany to the U.S. by U.S. Senator Thomas Dodd (D, CT.) after he completed his stint as a trial counselor in the Nuremberg trials. Dodd sponsored and aggressively promoted the 1968 law–he and son Chris really hated the Second Amendment.

RoyD
RoyD
7 months ago

There are reasons that 44 years ago I chose to live where I do.

MICHAEL J
MICHAEL J
7 months ago

Buying ammunition for guns you aren’t on record of having has always been a concern for me. Since California enacted ammunition background checks and coupling that with red flag no due process, they have potentially created a reason to knock on your door to find out why.

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago
Reply to  MICHAEL J

– This is why we must fight to preserve our legal rights. Too much of the country (one state would be too much) have or are implementing RFL. Freedom is under attack across the country.
More to the point is in California, where you can take nothing for granted except the overarching power of the state. More and more that state resembles an Orwellian dystopian. does have reason to fear. For me, that state has crossed the line into territory where it is probably safer to accept breaking the law than to attempt to follow it.

Big George
Big George
7 months ago
Reply to  MICHAEL J

And ‘they’ have and will!!

RJL
RJL
7 months ago

Oath Breaking Anti-Constitutional Politicans, sense of morality is situational, based on incident and emotion, instead of rooted in God’s word and law. Anti-constitutionalist’s stand for nothing. The situation determines their support for an issue and their emotions rule, not reason and rationality. Moreover, they recognize the contradiction, but still cling to their situational justice. Situational justice is the tool of dictators, tyrants, despots, and unjust, unrighteous monarchs. It has no place in a free constitutional republic. In which the United States of America is………………. Weapon prohibitionists can be broken down into seven major categories. Even though their motives may vary… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago
Reply to  RJL

@RJL – Fortunately “the fearful” and “the dysfunctionally unworldly” are the vast majority of them. There is yet hope for educating or pushing enough members of those groups to avoid CW2. Unfortunately their level of fear and the ubiquitous voices of power grabbers make reaching them a monumental task.

I strive to retain hope that we are up to the task of convincing enough sheep to not oppose us while converting others to sheepdogs. Hope is dwindling.

StWayne
StWayne
7 months ago

We only keep Hawaii in the Union because of WWII. I’ve long said that we should let it go. In today’s world, with the tech we have, their advantage to us is merely sentimental. Won’t it be interesting to watch them come crying when they are invaded by Fuji. “We don’t care if we pissed in your faced yesterday. That was then, and it was windy. This is now.” And now for the left’s most infamous last words, “Just do something!”

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago
Reply to  StWayne

@StWayne – I thought we kept it in order to have a pretty vacation spot we can travel to without passports. Contrast crime levels to those in other beach paradise destinations. It’s just a tiny, cheap state to keep and like most the USA doesn’t like to surrender any of it’s property. Suppose we could sell it to Canada. We’d still have the gulf coast and all of Florida, so they need it more than we do.

Yes omission of Mexifornia was deliberate.

StWayne
StWayne
7 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

Ah huh. Besides, and according to the state of Hawaii, America is just full of “old rapey white men” who don’t know their place!

Quatermain
Quatermain
7 months ago

South Africa has been putting the squeeze on licensed gun owners for the past 20 years. This ammunition restriction is cut from that play book. Next will be a cap on how many rounds you may possess, at one time, for any given firearm.

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago
Reply to  Quatermain

@Q – Was’t such a bill proposed in Oregon last year? Differences were they included monthly quantity purchase limits and limit was overall rather than per gun. If I recall correctly, three standard 9mm handgun mags would have put you over the limit. Legislator proudly said he’d listened to small children and included all their silly ideas.
Astounding that such a nitwit could be elected to anything anywhere beyond club janitor.

JPM
JPM
7 months ago

Here comes the NRA with the news. What did they do to prevent this from happening, to prevent the “lawmakers” from introducing such a bill, or to keep them from being elected in the first place? Instead of preventing the fire in the first place, the NRA will call the fire department and report it, and when the fire is put out by the fire department fire fighters, NRA will claim credit it and send you another request for contributions for a job well done.

Rock
Rock
7 months ago

WE THE PEOPLE need to push for politician restrictions.

vintovka 7.62
vintovka 7.62
7 months ago

Screw these control freaks. I can reload!

RoyD
RoyD
7 months ago
Reply to  vintovka 7.62

One of the largest producers of reloading equipment is located in California (RCBS). I remember thinking, back when Sierra Bullets moved to Missouri from California, that it was a good move for a number of reasons.

Tionico
Tionico
7 months ago
Reply to  RoyD

I’m putting my nickel on the box that says if the Gabbing Nuisance continues to throw his puny weight about, RCBS will be looking to flee that SHole before long. Sierra did well. MagPul bailed on Colorado (one of the best cases of a threat to hurt the state if they continued to persecute, state did not take the threat seriously, harmed anyway, the one harmed carried through on their promise,and left. Oh the weeping and wailing on Colorful Coloradoo when they did.. “traitor” they said. No, YOU are the traitors, refusing to uphold your oaths of office to uphold… Read more »

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago

Wow. What are the restrictions on hand loading? I keep toying with getting started, but if I lived in CA or HI I’d certainly already be there.

vintovka 7.62
vintovka 7.62
7 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

Most gun grabbers don’t even know that centerfire cartridges can be reloaded. The Federal excise tax of 11 pct applies only to loaded ammo, so reloading components are not taxed (except your local sales tax) and in the bills filed thus far in Congress, are not even mentioned. I reload everything I shoot except of course, .22 rimfire.

Finnky
Finnky
7 months ago
Reply to  vintovka 7.62

@vintovka – Have seen you-tube video of someone reloading 22LR. Unless one lives in HI, CA or S. Africa it’s hard for me to fathom why. Perhaps just spoiled in TX where I can mail order 22LR by the thousand at $0.04 or less per round. I’m just not detail oriented enough, dedicated enough, or cheap enough to even reload rifle rounds… OK – not sure cheap enough is even applicable. Primary drivers as I see it would be (1) accuracy and (2) political. I’m a crappy shooter, so #1 is relatively irrelevant – need to go burn through ammo… Read more »

Terry
Terry
7 months ago
Reply to  Finnky

, and that 5 pounds per shipment sucks as well.