U.S.A. -(AmmoLand.com)- The Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) just released fresh information that Virginians and Americans everywhere should know about concealed carry and Army Corps of Engineers property. They’re also raising awareness for comments needed on upcoming legislation dealing with the legality of concealed carrying on these lands. So make sure to swing by their site and let your opinion be heard. For the full rundown, continue reading.
This is great news!
We need to flood a public comment page with support for a proposed Corps of Engineers (COE) regulation change that will allow carry on COE Water Resources Development Projects in the same way we can currently carry in National Parks and other lands owned by the federal government!
In other words, it would be legal to carry on COE Water Resources Development Projects in Virginia either openly or, if you have a CHP, concealed. Currently you can only carry on COE Water Resources Development Projects if you get special permission to do so.
When traveling out of state, you would be able to carry on COE Water Resources Development Projects, in the same manner, you could carry off the property in that state. For some states that might be concealed only, assuming you have a permit that state accepts. For others, open carry might be permissible.
Click here to see more information on COE Water Resources Development Projects in Virginia and other states.
Click here to enter your comments. Right now it is showing only 39 comments, as the comment period has just begun. It will be updated once a day. https://beta.regulations.gov/document/COE-2018-0008-0001
Sample comment (feel free to customize):
I strongly support the proposed regulation change to make the carry of firearms on COE Water Resources Development Projects consistent with other federal lands, such as National Parks.
About Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL):
Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. (VCDL). VCDL is an all-volunteer, non-partisan grassroots organization dedicated to defending the human rights of all Virginians. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is a fundamental human right.
For more information, visit: www.vcdl.org.
No sorry, the COE are nothing more than caretakers of public land. This is land that is owned by we the people, that land belongs to us.
First off check your carry on any Government Land. Then let us Get National Carry Passed, and free up the biggest Gun Free Zone I know which includes Most Government Building & Office. Thus my point is I have not trusted the right or the left for almost 68 years now, I don’t blame one side or the other, but I don’t expect much from either side. I say The Right could at least Try to do what they say they stand for. God Bless Em All
@gooder12 Instead of National Carry, how about we go for Constitutional Carry instead? “I say The Right could at least Try to do what they say they stand for. ” Well, the problem there, and probably what led to your distrust in the first place is that many claiming to be on the “Right” are not. Many for purposes of power, money, or plain old fashioned ego have chosen a contrary position to the left only so they could claim to be superior or partake in a victory when it happens. They regurgitate talking points so that their words sound… Read more »
So what are you, personally, doing to promote Constitutional carry on a national basis?
@JDL Currently, writing our representatives as often as I can and citing the constitution as well as our Founding Fathers’ personal writings to explain it to them, Working in my own state to get constitutionalists elected instead of RINOs to further that aim, Educating everyone I can on the Constitution itself as well as evidence and fact behind the arguments, and supporting/donating to groups like the GOA as often as I can. I’ve been very active for a decade now, but it is an uphill struggle with so many claiming to be on the right who vote for slimy swamp… Read more »
@Rev, that is very good. It very well may be their first introduction to the Constitution and Bill of Rights!
@Wild Bill
Yes, in some cases. In others they are just liars intentionally ignoring the Constitution to suit their own ends, but you already know that.
Removing the downvote off your comment. I have a feeling it was put there by the same cowardly snowflake who goes around dinging my comments but wets themselves at the idea of having to actually reply publicly to me. That individual tends to go after anyone who speaks up in agreement with what I present.
Hope you are enjoying the weekend.
Rev, I don’t know if you noticed, but Hillsdale College is running their free, on-line, Constitution 101 class at the moment. I point everybody toward it if I think they need either a refresher or an introduction to the Constitution. They’re a good resource and it lets people work at their own pace. https://online.hillsdale.edu/landing/constitution-101
@Dave in Fairfax
Yes, I live not too far south of Hillsdale. I often recommend people to them. They have in fact even come up in discussion during classes at church, I’m happy to say.
Rev, Good for you, and them. They are a terrific resource, I can’t imagine why somebody down-voted you, They aren’t the oldest college in the land but they go back a long ways and are only interested in educating people about the Constitution and the history of this country. It’s beyond me that someone would have an interest in being against that. Either they are ignorant of its purpose, or we’ve uncovered a fellow traveler.
So, since you don’t trust anyone on gaining our rights back, what are you doing besides sitting on the sidelines and bitching about what others are doing or not doing?
obviously you are not did not read @therev’s response to your initial question. poor etiquette on your part. what are/have you been doing about it? we can vote for people who will support the 2A and uphold the Constitution and Bill of Rights, write letters to our representatives in Congress, letters to the editor of local papers, talk with others to inform them of our rights and convince them to add support to the cause. these are things I have done. how about you?
@gregs
In all fairness, his question to my response was posted after this one to the OP above, and he has yet to return to reply to my response as of yet. We will have to wait and see once he does read it, if he will reply or not.
Chances are he wont, but I knew that going in.
Anyone who thought they needed permission on this subject is already brainwashed. ” if you don’t eat your meat you can’t have any pudding, how can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat!”
BJ, well, in the UK pudding is uncooked sausage, so in that vein, the song quote is correct.
I adamantly agree that citizens should be allowed to carry weapons of COE land. That land is our land, purchased by and for the use of citizens. It is not owned by COE bureaucrats. The 2d Amendment applies to all citizens everywhere! There are, of course, a few exceptions which restrict the 2A but only to the minimum required. A blanket ban on the 2A should result in prosecution of those responsible for depriving citizens of their RIGHTS. I repeat – COE land is our land! We citizens bought it for OUR use. Our uses include freely exercising our Second… Read more »
I strongly support the proposed regulation change to make the carry of firearms on COE Water Resources Development Projects consistent with other federal lands, such as National Parks.
the COE are caretakers of public land. This is land that is owned by we the people, that land belongs to us.
Although I clicked where it said click it did not link to the site referenced.
I carry wherever I can unless there is something to stop me i.e. metal detector or some sort of physical search. A gun free zone sign obviously doesn’t work.
As a long time Conceal carry veteran, I strongly support the proposed regulation change to make the carry of firearms on COE Water Resources Development Projects consistent with other federal lands, such as National Parks.
Stop posting your support comments here, it doesn’t count. You MUST comment directly on the proper document. Please repost your support on the Comment section of the .gov site that officially reports for these types of regulatory changes.
https://beta.regulations.gov/document/COE-2018-0008-0001
Typical of “our” government, not particularly easy to locate, but eventually located appropriate webpage pages:
COE Official Press Release:
https://www.usace.army.mil/Media/News-Releases/News-Release-Article-View/Article/2148485/us-army-corps-of-engineers-publishes-request-for-comment-on-proposed-revision-t/
For comments click below which takes one to proposed regulation, which has a tab for comments near the top:
https://beta.regulations.gov/document/COE-2018-0008-0001
So the Corp of Engineers is acknowledging the 2nd Amendment, about time. Now maybe the rest of the military will head in the same direction for military bases and property, and even allow active duty military personnel to enjoy the 2nd Amendment on base.
Please give the link!! I got list trying to google it!!
Thanks!
Try this:
https://us20.campaign-archive.com/?u=b28f1d9ea359b104b09836c4c&id=fcabb989cf
I found it in the VCDL.org archives.
Norm
Once you get through all the links, here’s where to comment.
https://beta.regulations.gov/document/COE-2018-0008-0001
Thxs, beat me to it. I’m “awaiting moderation” as I put two links in my “comment”.
Sisu, Your comment is up near the top of the comments. Try single links and the comments will show up faster. We won’t charge you for the extra comment, seeing as how it’s Saturday.
Try this link:
https://beta.regulations.gov/document/COE-2018-0008-0001
Your “click here” phrase has no link associated with it. Maybe in the comments here you can provide the website; I will certainly comment there, thanks!